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Lionel Ritchie
06/10/2011, 12:03 PM
Just had a read of that article. I actually feel somewhat sorry for the IFA reading it. I've no idea what Gerrys salary, retainer, stipend or other form of remuneration package is like -but if it were me paying it out to someone to do a somewhat unique job that requires tact and consideration -well I'd expect them to acquaint themselves with the facts to a far more diligent degree than is evident.
BonnieShels
06/10/2011, 12:05 PM
Just eating my lunch and within a half hour I will be in possession of said article.
Charlie Darwin
06/10/2011, 12:16 PM
Just had a read of that article. I actually feel somewhat sorry for the IFA reading it. I've no idea what Gerrys salary, retainer, stipend or other form of remuneration package is like -but if it were me paying it out to someone to do a somewhat unique job that requires tact and consideration -well I'd expect them to acquaint themselves with the facts to a far more diligent degree than is evident.
Why? Gerry has been coached by the IFA - he's only reiterating the party line.
geysir
06/10/2011, 12:52 PM
I would fear for the welfare of your local friendly IFA spokesperson from the wrath of the rabble, if he/she came out with,
'eh well, actually it has nothing to do with the GFA',
'actually, there are no loopholes in FIFA's eligibility rules'
'maybe we should move a few steps away from victimhood here'.
SwanVsDalton
06/10/2011, 4:29 PM
Wah wah Ferguson won't call me back wah wah (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15204514.stm).

"If he wants to be involved, great. If he wants to go somewhere else, that's his decision."

Indeed Nige. So stop calling him and let him come to you if he chooses.
DannyInvincible
06/10/2011, 5:00 PM
Ferguson played youth football for his hometown Derry City before signing for Newcastle United

I'm pretty sure that's been lifted from Wikipedia and isn't actually correct.
co. down green
06/10/2011, 5:56 PM
I'm pretty sure that's been lifted from Wikipedia and isn't actually correct.

Joined Newcastle from Derry City youth
DannyInvincible
06/10/2011, 6:17 PM
Did he not join from the Maiden City Academy?
geysir
06/10/2011, 7:59 PM
Maidens? where?

I tried to tell you all earlier, you can't trust a northern fenian, especially the Derry wans.
Predator
06/10/2011, 9:51 PM
Joined Newcastle from Derry City youthHe was with the Maiden City Academy, which I think is separate from DCFC. Same as Gibson.
Link: http://maidencitysoccer.net/mcs/?page_id=3
SwanVsDalton
06/10/2011, 10:05 PM
Yah he's a Paul Kee-er, just like Gibson. No wonder the NI are miffed.
Predator
06/10/2011, 11:18 PM
Bugsy and Paul Kee used to run a good programme, if I recall correctly. Not sure how it's doing now.
Deckydee
07/10/2011, 6:32 AM
Shane Ferguson: "Two sides to every story"

http://www.tweeting-athletes.com/index.cfm?AthleteID=13117
co. down green
07/10/2011, 9:24 AM
Did he not join from the Maiden City Academy?

My mistake, you are correct

http://maidencitysoccer.net/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1660
ifk101
07/10/2011, 1:23 PM
Shane is on a well deserved break in the Pyrenees. There is poor mobile coverage in the area. It is all a simple misunderstanding.
Not Brazil
07/10/2011, 2:46 PM
It's simply another flat out incorrect, incomprehensible and incoherent 'woe is the IFA' mess, written by an NI fan. Don't want to say much more but you can see for yourself in a couple of weeks. Something to look forward to eh.


I read the said article at lunchtime.

It was full of keek.

I certainly didn't think it was written by a Northern Ireland fan.
Not Brazil
07/10/2011, 2:48 PM
Indeed Nige. So stop calling him and let him come to you if he chooses.

I agree -the IFA should stop calling him.

The IFA should also not bother returning his calls, if he contacts them in future.
SwanVsDalton
07/10/2011, 3:14 PM
I read the said article at lunchtime.

It was full of keek.

I certainly didn't think it was written by a Northern Ireland fan.

It got edited quite heavily. The original (incredibly even more error strewn and actually libellous) version would leave you in no doubt.
Not Brazil
07/10/2011, 3:17 PM
It got edited quite heavily. The original (incredibly even more error strewn and actually libellous) version would leave you in no doubt.

It must have been edited very heavily.

When I first read it, I thought it was written by someone sympathetic to the FAI.
SwanVsDalton
07/10/2011, 3:19 PM
It must have been edited very heavily.

When I first read it, I thought it was written by someone sympathetic to the FAI.

Not sure what's in it to give you that idea (I might have to take another read of it) but, trust me, the original was right up there with the most vitriolic OWC stuff I've read. The editing certainly makes it more, uh, measured, I guess.
Not Brazil
07/10/2011, 3:26 PM
Not sure what's in it to give you that idea (I might have to take another read of it) but, trust me, the original was right up there with the most vitriolic OWC stuff I've read. The editing certainly makes it more, uh, measured, I guess.

I can only comment on what was published.

What has been published does not appear to be written by a vitriolic Northern Ireland fan - on the contrary, I would argue that some of it is bordering anti Northern Ireland vitriol.

Can you scan and post the article Swan?
SwanVsDalton
07/10/2011, 3:32 PM
What parts? I'll have to look at it again, my mind is still paralysed with fury from the original which was a serious load of bunkum.

Of the edited version I can remember there are still references to the 'complexities of nationality' that allow Irish people to play for Ireland (how complex) not to mention 'the Republic being a more attractive option for football and political reasons' as opposed to, you know, people just choosing to pay for their country. There's still far too much nationality denial in it for my liking.

We can at least agree to how rubbish it is.
Not Brazil
07/10/2011, 3:48 PM
We can at least agree to how rubbish it is.

We'll see if someone can scan it up for us - and debate it from there.

If you can tune in, Radio Ulster are broadcasting a documentary about the eligibility issue on Sunday between 1.30PM and 2PM, called "Does the Cap fit?"

I sense it's going to be full of inaccuracies too, judging by the trailer I heard this morning.

Contributors include Liam Coyle.
DannyInvincible
07/10/2011, 4:03 PM
I sense it's going to be full of inaccuracies too, judging by the trailer I heard this morning.

Cheers for the heads up. I think you're right; the hasty brief (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b015qy2q) provides little promise:


Michael McNamee investigates the controversial legal loophole by which Northern Ireland football players can switch to playing for the Republic.
DannyInvincible
07/10/2011, 4:08 PM
Does Michael McNamee have a personal contact e-mail? I might send him off an e-mail but can't see an address anywhere.
ArdeeBhoy
08/10/2011, 8:36 PM
To be fair,WSC aren't immune to publishing rubbish. The said article is probably on line (try http://www.wsc.co.uk ) somewhere, but who really cares at this stage as the no. of misguided or paranoid parrots are liable continue for a good few more years.

As for SF, apparantly he's fallen out with 'Agent Nige', so regardless of his heritage or other leanings he's hardly likely to bother whilst the latter's in charge. And does partly explain his accepting the U-21 call-up recently...
Gather round
09/10/2011, 11:12 AM
Morning lads. Here's a copy of the article. Apologies for poor quality, the scanner in my local library isn't working.

My first reaction on reading it was similar to NB's. Good to see we're all in agreement that it's tripe ;)

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz196/BillMcComish/wsc-nov11.jpg
geysir
09/10/2011, 11:29 AM
They didn't waste time getting to Gerry's goal in Spain.
Mr_Parker
09/10/2011, 12:29 PM
We'll see if someone can scan it up for us - and debate it from there.

If you can tune in, Radio Ulster are broadcasting a documentary about the eligibility issue on Sunday between 1.30PM and 2PM, called "Does the Cap fit?"

I sense it's going to be full of inaccuracies too, judging by the trailer I heard this morning.

Contributors include Liam Coyle.

*bump*

http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/northernireland/hp/int/radio/ti/-/http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/ulster.shtml
Predator
09/10/2011, 12:33 PM
Jim Shaw talking nonsense about the statutes already.
Mr_Parker
09/10/2011, 12:36 PM
*bump*

http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/northernireland/hp/int/radio/ti/-/http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/ulster.shtml

What an embarrassment, and it's only a few minutes in.
Mr_Parker
09/10/2011, 12:37 PM
Jim Shaw talking nonsense about the statutes already.

And McNamee on "Dual Nationality"

Not surprising unfortunately
Predator
09/10/2011, 12:39 PM
Northern Ireland fans venting their spleens - small-time mentality clearly evident.
Stuttgart88
09/10/2011, 12:41 PM
Any chance anyone can get on the blower and state the facts?
Predator
09/10/2011, 12:42 PM
It seems like it's a pre-recorded show.
ArdeeBhoy
09/10/2011, 12:42 PM
Well the writing, printing and reproducing of that WSC article was a complete waste of time...
Predator
09/10/2011, 1:01 PM
Interesting to hear Liam Coyle's thoughts,

Coyle had a terrible time at Windsor Park: "While standing for the English national anthem, a section of the supporters were giving me dogs abuse, calling me a Provo and shouting 'Go back to Derry, you Fenian scum'," Coyle recalled.
geysir
09/10/2011, 1:06 PM
I missed that and they won't have it on podcast.
Next broadcast (before hitting the bin for good)
Thursday, 19:30 on BBC Radio Ulster
ArdeeBhoy
09/10/2011, 1:22 PM
Interesting to hear Liam Coyle's thoughts,

Coyle had a terrible time at Windsor Park: "While standing for the English national anthem, a section of the supporters were giving me dogs abuse, calling me a Provo and shouting 'Go back to Derry, you Fenian scum'," Coyle recalled.
Also on his Wiki page.
More fool him & his ilk for turning out for that shower...

And people wonder about the reticence of Messrs. Duffy, Gibson, McClean and perhaps Ferguson.
Not Brazil
09/10/2011, 4:24 PM
It got edited quite heavily. The original (incredibly even more error strewn and actually libellous) version would leave you in no doubt.

The article was written by Aaron Rogan - an ROI supporter, from the Republic Of Ireland.

Seems you were wrong.
Not Brazil
09/10/2011, 4:29 PM
Interesting to hear Liam Coyle's thoughts,

Coyle had a terrible time at Windsor Park: "While standing for the English national anthem, a section of the supporters were giving me dogs abuse, calling me a Provo and shouting 'Go back to Derry, you Fenian scum'," Coyle recalled.

Relating to a match 22 years ago...Coyle's only cap - attended by the lowest crowd for a Northern Ireland home international in memory. (If memory serves me correctly, it clashed with the Liverpool v Arsenal title decider, which was live on TV).
Not Brazil
09/10/2011, 4:29 PM
I did warn posters that the Radio Ulster documentary would be low on accuracy.:rolleyes:
Mr_Parker
09/10/2011, 5:21 PM
I did warn posters that the Radio Ulster documentary would be low on accuracy.:rolleyes:

Low? An understatement!! :D
Not Brazil
09/10/2011, 5:39 PM
Somebody should tell Liam Coyle - with his hang ups about Windsor Park and Catholic kids - that the host Club have several Catholic players, at all levels of the Club, only too willing to come and play for Linfield FC at Windsor Park.

Perhaps he should look at the reception Patrick McCourt receives these days, rather than referring to incidents 22 years ago.
DannyInvincible
09/10/2011, 6:06 PM
Somebody should tell Liam Coyle - with his hang ups about Windsor Park and Catholic kids - that the host Club have several Catholic players, at all levels of the Club, only too willing to come and play for Linfield FC at Windsor Park.

Perhaps he should look at the reception Patrick McCourt receives these days, rather than referring to incidents 22 years ago.

Indeed, nothing like labelling someone a Provo would happen these days... ;)
Not Brazil
09/10/2011, 6:11 PM
Indeed, nothing like labelling someone a Provo would happen these days... ;)

Please be accurate.:D

A "Provo supporter" - self confessed.;)
ArdeeBhoy
09/10/2011, 6:26 PM
Really?
Who?
:rolleyes:
Predator
09/10/2011, 6:38 PM
NB, in my opinion, Coyle does not at all appear to be anti-IFA or at all adverse to the idea of someone playing for the IFA. As a man (an icon) from Derry who played for Northern Ireland once, the BBC people have asked him his thoughts and he's given his honest summation of the situation, which is fair enough - you can't really expect him to be an IFA cheerleader when his own experience of playing for Northern Ireland wasn't particularly enjoyable, even though he doesn't regret it. He's not alone in that regard.

The views of the NI fans interviewed are so ignorant: This "play for where you're born" stuff is very insular.
Predator
09/10/2011, 6:40 PM
Please be accurate.:DBut he is being accurate - McClean and others have been variously called "wee provo fcukers" or "wee sectarian toe-rags" among other things. Blind fury is the default response when "your" players opt for the FAI.
drummerboy
09/10/2011, 6:46 PM
These kids have the right to play for the ROI. There are many kids now making their way through FAI development squads who may one day want to play for the country of their parents, so its is something the Republic will have to become acquainted with themselves.