Eligibility Rules, Okay

[DannyInvincible]

It'a a very comfortable position.

His comments were unwitting and inadvertent, therefore he can't be criticised for them, yet the inherently political nature they take on, due to the context, can be celebrated.

But I'm sorry, I do think it's contradictory.

I've been having a think about this; can a position be both comfortable and contradictory at the same time? I don't see the necessary contradiction in the position I've outlined. To use another fairly loose analogy - I'm sure there's better - a footballer might injure an opponent unintentionally; the incident will have broader meaning, impact and consequences, be they negative or beneficial (not that I'm suggesting injuries to opponents are to be celebrated), but it would be perhaps unreasonable for supporters of the opponent's team to accuse and condemn the footballer for causing the injury or setting out to do harm. Is that a good analogy?

[Crosby87]

Danny what is your solution to the Israel / Palestine conflict?

[Eminence Grise]

Danny what is your solution to the Israel / Palestine conflict?

That's it - I'm getting out of here!!!:eek:

[Crosby87]

Hes preparing a gensementhe about it right now.

[DannyInvincible]

Danny what is your solution to the Israel / Palestine conflict?

Well, first of all, I'm of the opinion that your description represents a false dichotom-... Wait, what's a gensementhe?

[ArdeeBhoy]

Never mind this, what do DI & Fly (& our other Ulaidh correspondents) think of the alternative flegs that may be representing them one day, as per the last Paddy B.post...

Actually some of them are, interesting?

[Crosby87]

Its gethsemane. Its like a long emotianal speech that defines things. Go on you tube and watch "armisteads gethsemane" from the terrific ron maxwell film gettysburg. Its so you.
And what's a fleg? Do you have a samsung galaxy tablet too?

[The Fly]

Never mind this, what do DI & Fly (& our other Ulaidh correspondents) think of the alternative flegs that may be representing them one day, as per the last Paddy B.post...

Actually some of them are, interesting?

Whilst the Irish flag will always be the one that represents me, here are my favourite submissions:


http://cdn4.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/incoming/article30488465.ece/dd5c3/ALTERNATES/h342/Mick+McMenemie.png



http://cdn4.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/incoming/article30491091.ece/54d5f/ALTERNATES/h342/flag_2_21.png


and just for the childhood memories.....

http://cdn2.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/incoming/article29813442.ece/636f2/ALTERNATES/h342/flag27.jpg

[Gather round]

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz196/BillMcComish/ultonia/us.jpg (http://s827.photobucket.com/user/BillMcComish/media/ultonia/us.jpg.html)

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz196/BillMcComish/ultonia/notbrazil_zpsa9c616a9.jpg (http://s827.photobucket.com/user/BillMcComish/media/ultonia/notbrazil_zpsa9c616a9.jpg.html)

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz196/BillMcComish/politics/hexagon_zps223c6526.jpg (http://s827.photobucket.com/user/BillMcComish/media/politics/hexagon_zps223c6526.jpg.html)

[Gather round]

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz196/BillMcComish/ultonia/spide_zpsa1440977.jpg (http://s827.photobucket.com/user/BillMcComish/media/ultonia/spide_zpsa1440977.jpg.html)

[DannyInvincible]

Never mind this, what do DI & Fly (& our other Ulaidh correspondents) think of the alternative flegs that may be representing them one day, as per the last Paddy B.post...

Actually some of them are, interesting?

Like Fly, the tricolour represents me fine. I enjoyed this submission though:

http://cdn2.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/incoming/article29813446.ece/54571/ALTERNATES/h342/flag31.jpg

And these two are kind of compelling, for some reason:

http://cdn2.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/incoming/article30490867.ece/c59fc/ALTERNATES/h342/flag_2_15.png
"A white and golden cross of Saint Brigit's placed over a blue field of Saint Patrick." - Rodney Tyson Jr

http://cdn1.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/incoming/article30490866.ece/e68ea/ALTERNATES/h342/flag_2_16.png
"A white and blue cross of Saint Bridget placed over a field of Irish green." - Rodney Tyson Jr

[DannyInvincible]

Its gethsemane. Its like a long emotianal speech that defines things. Go on you tube and watch "armisteads gethsemane" from the terrific ron maxwell film gettysburg. Its so you.
And what's a fleg? Do you have a samsung galaxy tablet too?

Ah, "gethsemane", like the garden?... Doesn't that refer to a moment of suffering? Link me up, Crosby; I can't find the scene and I've never seen the movie.

A "fleg" is a flag in Belfast-speak.

And, no, I don't have a tablet, although I have a Galaxy S4, if that's of any consequence... :confused:

[The Fly]

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz196/BillMcComish/ultonia/spide_zpsa1440977.jpg (http://s827.photobucket.com/user/BillMcComish/media/ultonia/spide_zpsa1440977.jpg.html)

'Spide-man'

Oh you!

[The Fly]

Like Fly, the tricolour represents me fine. I enjoyed this submission though:

And these two are kind of compelling, for some reason:

http://cdn2.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/incoming/article30490867.ece/c59fc/ALTERNATES/h342/flag_2_15.png
"A white and golden cross of Saint Brigit's placed over a blue field of Saint Patrick." - Rodney Tyson Jr

http://cdn1.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/incoming/article30490866.ece/e68ea/ALTERNATES/h342/flag_2_16.png
"A white and blue cross of Saint Bridget placed over a field of Irish green." - Rodney Tyson Jr

Given the descriptions, the thing I find most compelling about those is that they were submitted by someone called Rodney Tyson Jr.

[Eminence Grise]

Its gethsemane. Its like a long emotianal speech that defines things. Go on you tube and watch "armisteads gethsemane" from the terrific ron maxwell film gettysburg. Its so you.


Ah, "gethsemane", like the garden?... Doesn't that refer to a moment of suffering? Link me up, Crosby; I can't find the scene and I've never seen the movie.

Good reference, Crosby - worth a thanks. It was all the more poignant for being Richard Jordan's (Armistead) last film.

Danny, you need to take four hours away from your keyboard and watch it (8 hours if you include the later prequel, Gods and Generals).

[ArdeeBhoy]

Am I allowed to say ha ha, Fly/DI??

As for GR...
:rolleyes:

[Crosby87]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U1xLCnzsvfw

Danny its a great scene. Armistead was a souther gnl whilst his best bud Winfield Scott Hancock,
Who survived the war and later ran for president, was a northern gnl who was in command of the union army that day... Tom Berringer is playing Lee's right hand man, Gnl James Longstreet.

Eminence I agree Richard Jordan was a great actor. He was also in red october...

[osarusan]

I imagine he would have kept his head down, like many footballers from nationalist backgrounds similarly do when they represent NI, whilst possibly thinking the same in his head: "This isn't my anthem/flag." Such a thought would spire from the social reality quoted. That such a thought became verbalised was simply because the other boxer made some sort of enquiry.
....

but I saw it as Barnes feeling a need to enlighten ignorance or possible misinterpretation.

It was the history and social reality of the region bubbling to the surface, verbalised through an unwitting servant?

Sorry, I don't buy that. The thoughts may indeed have been in his head, but he chose to speak the words he spoke.


It might even have made you chuckle? :p

No. I saw it as a silly, petty dig. Nothing to celebrate. Digs are insulting by design, so I can't agree that there was nothing to take offence about. I'd guess that your opinion of 'the symbolism concerned, no doubt, coloured [your] pleasantly-surprised reaction' as to how to offensive it was.

[Charlie Darwin]

Shoot 'em all and let god sort them out. That's what I say.

[ArdeeBhoy]

'Spide-man'

Oh you!

Nothing to do with ye Fly or even GR, but that is the most unrepresentive fleg of the latter ever...

[ArdeeBhoy]

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz196/BillMcComish/ultonia/notbrazil_zpsa9c616a9.jpg (http://s827.photobucket.com/user/BillMcComish/media/ultonia/notbrazil_zpsa9c616a9.jpg.html)

http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz196/BillMcComish/politics/hexagon_zps223c6526.jpg (http://s827.photobucket.com/user/BillMcComish/media/politics/hexagon_zps223c6526.jpg.html)
What the hell are those? One's a map of Brazil, which is in, er, South America...and the other some sort of Blockbusters 'meme'?

[tetsujin1979]

What the hell are those? One's a map of Brazil, which is in, er, South America...and the other some sort of Blockbusters 'meme'?
It's just a guess, but this may be related: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IFA_Premiership#List_of_champions_and_runners-up

[Gather round]

It's a stylised map of NI election constituencies, showing the Nationalist vote percentage for each in 2010.

[ArdeeBhoy]

Hmm, surely a pie chart would have been more relevant...
;)

Not to mention the wrong colours! Or is this a more oblique comment on political leanings there.
Ironically which could help form 'eligibility', before anyone goes off on one.

[Charlie Darwin]

Good grief Ardee, you really know how the suck the fun out of a simple joke.

[DannyInvincible]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U1xLCnzsvfw

Danny its a great scene. Armistead was a souther gnl whilst his best bud Winfield Scott Hancock,
Who survived the war and later ran for president, was a northern gnl who was in command of the union army that day... Tom Berringer is playing Lee's right hand man, Gnl James Longstreet.

Hehe, I'll have to get working on my beard!

And I'll be sure to set some time aside, EG. :o


It was the history and social reality of the region bubbling to the surface, verbalised through an unwitting servant?

Sorry, I don't buy that. The thoughts may indeed have been in his head, but he chose to speak the words he spoke.

He did choose to utter the words but, unlike you, I don't think he was explicitly intending or going out of his way to cause offence in verbalising his thought. Are you implying that the thought ("this isn't my anthem") is an offensive thought to hold?


No. I saw it as a silly, petty dig. Nothing to celebrate. Digs are insulting by design, so I can't agree that there was nothing to take offence about.

Just to be clear, because you keep using it as if to insinuate I was on the verge of popping champagne corks, I never used the word "celebrate". I saw humour in the incident and an allusion to a wider socio-cultural issue in which I happen to have an interest.


I'd guess that your opinion of 'the symbolism concerned, no doubt, coloured [your] pleasantly-surprised reaction' as to how to offensive it was.

There's no reason to guess; I've already outlined perfectly clearly as to how I came to a judgment regarding its potential (non-)offensiveness. Whilst challenging the possible presumption that nationalists might feel represented by such contentious and out-dated symbolism, it was harmless, trampled upon nobody's culture and was not a pre-meditated insult.

[ArdeeBhoy]

Good grief Ardee, you really know how the suck the fun out of a simple joke.
When, where, how??

And presumably you're being ironic...
;)

[osarusan]

He did choose to utter the words but, unlike you, I don't think he was explicitly intending or going out of his way to cause offence in verbalising his thought.

Fair enough, I'd say he was. Let's leave it there.



Are you implying that the thought ("this isn't my anthem") is an offensive thought to hold?

No of course not. But even if that thought was on his mind, he did have the capacity not to say it.



Just to be clear, because you keep using it as if to insinuate I was on the verge of popping champagne corks, I never used the word "celebrate".
Not 'celebrate' as in popping champagne corks, but 'celebrate' as in see as a positive thing.



it was harmless, trampled upon nobody's culture and was not a pre-meditated insult.
I can see how some people might take offence. Again, let's just leave it there, shall we?

[DannyInvincible]

Not 'celebrate' as in popping champagne corks, but 'celebrate' as in see as a positive thing.

Well, if that is equivalent to being humoured by something and seeing a broader social implication in it...


Again, let's just leave it there, shall we?

C'mon, I'm sure we could get at least three more pages out of this! :p

[DannyInvincible]

What the hell are those? One's a map of Brazil, which is in, er, South America...and the other some sort of Blockbusters 'meme'?

The former must be a reference to the old Windsor favourite 'We're Not Brazil...'.

[Gather round]

The former must be a reference to the old Windsor favourite 'We're Not Brazil...'.

Aye, but it might have to be rested. Too embarrassing to link with a team letting in more than six at home...

[ArdeeBhoy]

Hmm, just think how the Brazilians must have felt...

[Charlie Darwin]

Aye, but it might have to be rested. Too embarrassing to link with a team letting in more than six at home...
It hasn't put James McClean off :)

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Harry Kane and Kyle Naughton are close to declaring while David McGoldrick, whose mother is "apparently" Irish, is likely to be called up on Thursday, according to Paul Rowan.

[ArdeeBhoy]

Good news if true...

[DannyInvincible]

Harry Kane and Kyle Naughton are close to declaring while David McGoldrick, whose mother is "apparently" Irish, is likely to be called up on Thursday, according to Paul Rowan.

What does "close to declaring" mean exactly? Passports in the post? :p

How does Naughton qualify again? Kane qualifies through his Galway-born grandfather; isn't that right? McGoldrick's qualification is discussed here: http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/ireland/2014/02/02/4589701/david-mcgoldrick-hoping-for-ireland-call-up


Born in Nottingham, McGoldrick was unsure if he was eligible for the Boys in Green due to the fact he was adopted. He explained that he researched his ancestors to uncover a link. "I played with Leon Best for Notts County and Southampton," McGoldrick told the Sun. "He was playing for Ireland and I know people were asking questions about me, but it was complicated.

"I knew there was an Irish link to the McGoldricks, but I had been adopted so I didn't think that counted."

McGoldrick's research found that he also had a blood tie to Ireland as well as through his adoptive parents. "I got in contact with my birth mum a few years ago. She mentioned that her dad was Irish. She died a couple of weeks ago which is sad, but I'd gotten this interest in playing for Ireland."

Although it seems he's eligible through one of his adoptive parent's Irish McGoldrick links anyway, could he have claimed Irish nationality by virtue of the blood-tie with his birth mother's father? That relationship, even though by blood, is no longer legally recognised, is it? I shall do a bit of research...

Kane's willingness (if the reports are true) is interesting as he's still pretty young and also recently stated (http://www.thetottenhamway.com/2014/05/10/harry-kane-kyle-naughton-set-ireland-call-ups/):


I’ve played for England at all levels below the senior squad and that is the next step for me.

Roy Hodgson watches most of the games in the Premier League. When Andros was playing well, he chose him and Andros helped England qualify for the World Cup. I want to break into that squad eventually.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

I think it's pretty telling that there are no quotes from Kane, Naughton or O'Neill in the article. Even the anecdote/s about McGoldrick have been doing the rounds for over 6 months now.

Filling column inches?

[ArdeeBhoy]

Heard about Naughton before, though had though it was originally the, er, North he was qualified for.

This is the only link on his Wiki page.
http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/sheff-utd/tug-o-war-over-kyle-naughton-1-258198
Again, if he/they want to do it, massively in favour of fast-tracking as with any others, in via the Gibraltar game...

[DannyInvincible]

Heard about Naughton before, though had though it was originally the, er, North he was qualified for.

He'd still have been eligible anyway, even if it was through northern roots. Maybe his roots are indeed northern. I'm not sure.


This is the only link on his Wiki page.
http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/sheff-utd/tug-o-war-over-kyle-naughton-1-258198
Again, if he/they want to do it, massively in favour of fast-tracking as with any others, in via the Gibraltar game...

I wouldn't advise us being anything other than completely professional nor would I wish to take the Gibraltar result for granted, but two prominent squad members of a top-half Premier League team still eligible for England? Definitely. Get them tied! :D

Get Grealish in the mix too, whilst we're at it.

[liamoo11]

I dont think Grealish should be compared with these lads. He has played with us since he was 14. Crowley as well at least played for us and was obviously proud to do so, Naughton and Kane obviously have known about their eligibility for years and are only looking at us as a career move. Chances of either been regular in england squads is minimal. McGoldrick is no addition no better than best who again threw his lot in with us a youngster when there was lots of interest in him from england underage sides. Lads like best should be given respect for that

[DannyInvincible]

I dont think Grealish should be compared with these lads. He has played with us since he was 14.

Ha, I'm well aware. I've had long, heated arguments with TOWK in Grealish's thread over the past while about his commitment. I, like you, see no reason to doubt his motivations.

I think he'd be worth a call-up though as he's clearly central to Lambert's plans at Villa this season and, if good enough for Premier league level, then surely can add something to our squad. Getting him capped and tied before his name becomes household would at least nip any potential James McCarthy-style media panic over his commitment in the bud. Such nonsense would only be a source of unhelpful distraction for everyone concerned.

[Stuttgart88]

I haven't seen much of McGoldrick but I hear he has pace to burn. Best would be more like Wakers, no?

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Weren't James McCarthy's motivations to play for Ireland driven by a dying Grandfather's wish? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think he ever made any comments about possibly playing for Scotland either - even when our former manager was publicly goading him into doing so.

I don't think anyone had a reason to doubt McCarthy's sincerity. I think the panic was driven by our ex-manager's Inspector Clouseau like attempts at relations with players.

Grealish has made some pretty contradictory statements in the past and at one point seemed to be on the verge of switching to England, so there would be more to fear about his long-term future.

Just seeing that the Gibraltar game is in October, a month after the Georgia game. I say if he continues to appear for Villa between now and then and impress sufficiently, then yes, cap him off the bench. There certainly have been stranger call-ups (Clifford).

I have to say though that if the kid hasn't made a definitive decision on whom he wants to play for, as I suspect, then I'm not sure how he would respond to something so cynical as being capped in a competitive game in the 90th minute just to prevent him from playing for England.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens anyways.

As Liamoo said, I would be just as inclined to call up Leon Best or persevere with Murphy and Doyle than to cap McGoldrick. The jury's out on if he is any better than Stokes, Cox and Walters and I don't think his talent or profile is sufficient enough to throw him in straight away. Not gone on Naughton for more than one reason. Kane could have something about him, with his profile and new contract; but I suspect it's irrelevant as he is pitched in with England.

[DannyInvincible]

Weren't James McCarthy's motivations to play for Ireland driven by a dying Grandfather's wish? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think he ever made any comments about possibly playing for Scotland either - even when our former manager was publicly goading him into doing so.

I don't think anyone had a reason to doubt McCarthy's sincerity. I think the panic was driven by our ex-manager's Inspector Clouseau like attempts at relations with players.

Aye, that story is often cited by reputable sources, so I assume it's true. McCarthy always played for us, always displayed commitment since we first selected him and had to put up with near-weekly torrents of sectarian abuse whilst playing for Hamilton in Scotland after he first accepted an Irish call-up. He has strong Donegal connections, frequently holidaying with his family in the Rosses growing up, as well as Cavan connections on the maternal side, and proudly identifies as Irish. Even though he later said would have accepted a Scotland call-up had they first come calling, there was absolutely no reason for the media to question his commitment to Ireland once he'd accepted the call (and allegedly made the promise to his dying Donegal grandfather). It was insulting to him. For whatever reason, though, they did. He'd pulled out of a few friendly squads so as not to aggravate a prolonged injury concern, despite often playing through the pain barrier for Wigan in the Premier League weekends following; I suppose that got the paranoid worrying, but he was merely protecting his fitness. Martinez had made public utterances too around the time about him still being eligible for Scotland, which didn't help quell the groundless speculation, but McCarthy was always firm about his commitment and had actually met Trap face-to-face to confirm his commitment shortly before Martinez' comments (http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/glut-of-nonrunners-makes-it-difficult-to-avoid-a-gamble-26715117.html). Are you saying Trap was goading McCarthy into declaring for Scotland? I have no idea what you're referring to there.


Grealish has made some pretty contradictory statements in the past and at one point seemed to be on the verge of switching to England, so there would be more to fear about his long-term future.

"Contradictory statements"? What exactly has he said that's contradictory? And he was "on the verge of switching to England"? Where do you get this stuff? (I have a feeling I know what you're referring to, as we've discussed Grealish to death, but, once again, you're catastrophising. The FA simply approached him and his father...)


I have to say though that if the kid hasn't made a definitive decision on whom he wants to play for, as I suspect, then I'm not sure how he would respond to something so cynical as being capped in a competitive game in the 90th minute just to prevent him from playing for England.

He's publicly declared that he wants to play for Ireland for the foreseeable future, unless things turn sour and he's pressured into switching. That sounds definitive enough to me. I'd be stunned if he shunned a senior call-up.

[IsMiseSean]

Kane qualifies through his Galway-born grandfather; isn't that right?

Not sure what the actual connection is, but I know Kane has some cousins around the Clifden area and use to visit there when he was younger.

[geysir]

Aye, that story is often cited by reputable sources, so I assume it's true.
Don't let yourself be taken in by alleged reputed sources.
The story about James fulfilling his dying grandfather's wish is total fabrication.
File under myth.

His grandfather’s alleged last wish, 2008: (http://greenscene.me/2011/01/trapattoni-and-mccarthy-in-quotes/)
“I won’t be changing my mind. I’ve been part of the Republic set up for too long now and I’m proud to be part of it. I loved the experience with the Under-21s and it was brilliant to get my first cap. People think I chose to play for the Republic because my granda asked me to. It wasn’t his last wish, like some people think. He always said he would have loved to see me play for Ireland but that’s not the reason I made my decision. The chance came for an international cap and I decided to go for it because Scotland never asked me. There was never any indication they were going to either. I know I’m still young but I wanted international experience and it meant a lot for me to get it with Ireland.”

[BonnieShels]

So you're saying he's a mercenary? Well I never. What does TOWK think of this?

[ArdeeBhoy]

More honest than a 'mercenary'...

[DannyInvincible]

Don't let yourself be taken in by alleged reputed sources.
The story about James fulfilling his dying grandfather's wish is total fabrication.
File under myth.

His grandfather’s alleged last wish, 2008: (http://greenscene.me/2011/01/trapattoni-and-mccarthy-in-quotes/)
“I won’t be changing my mind. I’ve been part of the Republic set up for too long now and I’m proud to be part of it. I loved the experience with the Under-21s and it was brilliant to get my first cap. People think I chose to play for the Republic because my granda asked me to. It wasn’t his last wish, like some people think. He always said he would have loved to see me play for Ireland but that’s not the reason I made my decision. The chance came for an international cap and I decided to go for it because Scotland never asked me. There was never any indication they were going to either. I know I’m still young but I wanted international experience and it meant a lot for me to get it with Ireland.”

Consider it filed. :)

I enjoyed this quote from James in 2007 on Scottish interviewers asking him about possibly switching to Scotland:


"It’s always the same when you get an interview here in Scotland. They’re always asking so ‘what’s happening, are you going to change?’ and it’s at the stage now where I just say ‘we’ll see what happens’ to put them off and get them off my back. I won a Player of the Month Award but spent my entire time talking about that. But I’m happy where I’m at, with Ireland. The fuss can be annoying, but it doesn’t really bother me."

Jack Grealish tells his interviewers the same when asked about the prospect of him playing for England; "we'll see what happens". There's probably little to be read into when such a stock phrase is used by a player with dual eligibility, so why assume Grealish will be any different from the likes of McCarthy or McGeady? It's just being civil and polite. In the end, there was evidently no reason whatsoever for anyone to have panicked when it came to McCarthy's commitment. The FAI rightly build links with the families of such players (see the experiences of McGeady, Duffy, Gibson, et cetera) and they make sure everyone feels welcome. Noel King has done the same; he's taken Grealish under his wing and has made the lad feel part of the family.

Unrelatedly, I'm reading a book at the minute which mentioned in passing an England-born player called Tyrone Mears (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrone_Mears) who'd played for Marseille a few years ago. For whatever reason, I decided to seek out some further info about him online; I think I was surprised I'd never heard of him before. Turns out, he played internationally for Jamaica, but only ever received a single cap. I came across the following amusing tale on his Wikipedia article; it explains why his "international career" was limited to just that one appearance in 2009:


Though English by birth, Mears believed he had Jamaican ancestry and it was reported on 4 February 2009, that he had accepted an offer to play for the Jamaica national football team. Mears made his debut on 11 February 2009 against Nigeria, playing 71 minutes of the 0–0 draw at the New Den. Mears said, "It was a fantastic feeling to be selected. When John Barnes first phoned me I was really excited. It's a fantastic opportunity to play for Jamaica." Despite making an appearance for Jamaica, it was later revealed that Mears' father, whom he thought he qualified through, was actually from Sierra Leone.

[Newryrep]

Heard about Naughton before, though had though it was originally the, er, North he was qualified for.

This is the only link on his Wiki page.
http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/sheff-utd/tug-o-war-over-kyle-naughton-1-258198
Again, if he/they want to do it, massively in favour of fast-tracking as with any others, in via the Gibraltar game...

we shouldnt fast track any body just to tie him to us