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redobit
01/07/2012, 2:16 PM
Haha. That's funny. The old "you can't talk, look at who you support" argument. Care to have a dig at any other LOI club's facilities? You'd have a fairly long list of complaints. You'd swear the Showgies was a fortress.
Who's the 'touchy' one now. hahaha
nigel-harps1954
01/07/2012, 2:17 PM
Nigel*
http://www.icangiveyouhouse.com/audio/2010/10/hello-my-name-is.jpg
Sean South
01/07/2012, 2:28 PM
http://www.icangiveyouhouse.com/audio/2010/10/hello-my-name-is.jpg
Living up to your name again.
shellyriver
01/07/2012, 3:08 PM
The founds were put into Harps stadium this year. The digging work started last year if you must know. The steel work to be put in the coming months.
Full steam ahead then:rolleyes:
MeathDrog
01/07/2012, 3:53 PM
Who's the 'touchy' one now. hahaha
Not at all. I raised a point over your digs at another club which you self masqueraded as "banter".
nigel-harps1954
01/07/2012, 9:10 PM
Full steam ahead then:rolleyes:
Hey, when we don't have to pay a cent for it, they can take all the time in the world. Soon to have the finest stadium in the North West of course ;)
shellyriver
01/07/2012, 9:53 PM
Soon to have the finest stadium in the North West of course ;)
Brandywell should pip you there - courtesy of British taxpayers:shame:
nigel-harps1954
01/07/2012, 10:05 PM
Brandywell should pip you there - courtesy of British taxpayers:shame:
Christ no, Brandywell, even upgraded, won't be as good as the new stadium Harps are building. It's going to be great. Very great.
shellyriver
01/07/2012, 10:13 PM
Presumably you mean a custom built facility with a stand for each fan?
thomas72
02/07/2012, 9:37 AM
Limerick fc to lodge full planning application for phase one two and three of the development of the markets field within the next two weeks for the 8,100 stadium and will kick off next season in the markets field.
ALSo Limerick in talks with department of defense to purchase land to build a academy for all Limericks under age teams and 19s. Source the star with quotes from chairman.
Unbelievable stuff from limerick
nigel-harps1954
02/07/2012, 12:39 PM
Presumably you mean a custom built facility with a stand for each fan?
And a fully stocked bar behind each seat.
redobit
02/07/2012, 1:29 PM
It's going to be great. Very great.
Genuine question nigel. If its taken 4 years from turning sod to foundations how long will it take to finish it at that rate?
Surely Harps fans must be worried that they will have a nice new stadium and no fans left to put in it?
Surely Harps fans must be worried that they will have a nice new stadium and no fans left to put in it?
Well at the moment they've a ****ty ground and no fans to put in it, so it'll still be an upgrade
shellyriver
02/07/2012, 1:39 PM
And a fully stocked bar behind each seat.
Nice one Nigel, you're learning to roll with punches -- indeed I'm looking forward to a visit back to Finn Park - I love Cinzano.
Hopefully that chip van in the corner will still have a licence to trade in new stadium (seems though that letter I sent to Health Board is probably still in post) so I can get my coke for my Chinzie;)
I'd be a lot more worried that the club will fold before we ever get there.
Things have been incredibly slow to date- but most of that has been to good old Irish bureaucracy. Hopefully now that we're beyond most of that things will move quicker.
Rasputin
02/07/2012, 1:42 PM
Limerick fc to lodge full planning application for phase one two and three of the development of the markets field within the next two weeks for the 8,100 stadium and will kick off next season in the markets field.
ALSo Limerick in talks with department of defense to purchase land to build a academy for all Limericks under age teams and 19s. Source the star with quotes from chairman.
Unbelievable stuff from limerick
How much will the the stadium and facilities cost?
Jofspring
02/07/2012, 1:53 PM
How much will the the stadium and facilities cost?
No costs have been given but going by the plans it won't be cheap. I'm presuming Pat and JP will be funding it but there has been no mention of any grants etc... either.
nigel-harps1954
02/07/2012, 1:59 PM
Genuine question nigel. If its taken 4 years from turning sod to foundations how long will it take to finish it at that rate?
Surely Harps fans must be worried that they will have a nice new stadium and no fans left to put in it?
I'd be fairly worried we'll turn out the same as Athlone, lovely little stadium, nobody there to watch the games.
But I'd still prefer a nice comfortable stadium than what we're in at the minute. A lot of memories of Finn Park, grew up watching Harps there so I'll be sad to see it go, but it's old, dilapidated, and just horrible to watch a match in at the best of times.
Hopefully we'll have a more competitive team by the time it comes.
I'd be a lot more worried that the club will fold before we ever get there.
Things have been incredibly slow to date- but most of that has been to good old Irish bureaucracy. Hopefully now that we're beyond most of that things will move quicker.
^ This. From what I hear, once the steel goes in, it's full steam ahead from there. Just waiting on the 2nd draw of grant money to come through or something of the like.
I always loved Finn Park til they put those new seats in. They bloody ruined it. So much for progress.
nigel-harps1954
02/07/2012, 2:51 PM
Made an absolute mess of the place. Can see nothing from the other side of them. Very badly placed.
fionnsci
03/07/2012, 12:28 PM
8,100 would be a HUGE ground for Limerick. It's great to have a big, bew stadium but the swathes of empty seats will just look silly.
bluewhitearmy
03/07/2012, 12:36 PM
8,100 would be a HUGE ground for Limerick. It's great to have a big, bew stadium but the swathes of empty seats will just look silly.
Its going to be used for more then just us. Talk of concerts and that kinda thing.
sullanefc
03/07/2012, 12:52 PM
8,100 would be a HUGE ground for Limerick. It's great to have a big, bew stadium but the swathes of empty seats will just look silly.
Cork City (one of the best supported sides) has an average attendance of just over 3000, but TX holds 7000. Lots of empty seats every second Friday, but for the big cup games, euro games, title deciders and (unfortunately) big cross channel friendlies, all those extra seats get sold and the club makes money. I'd rather have too many seats (to be able to increase revenue) than not enough seats.
It also looks silly when there is no stand on all 4 sides of the pitch IMO. Athlone have a fabulous stand on one side of the pitch and nothing else which doesn't look right I think. Rovers have 2 fabulous stands, but it doesn't look right with nothing at the 2 ends IMO.
If Limerick build 4 decent stands and it comes in at 8000 capacity then that is just about right. What happens if they qualify for Europe and draw a big club? What happens if they get drawn in the FAI cup semi-final at home or if they are in with a shout of winning the Premier on the last day next season? They have to be ambitious in increasing their support too.
osarusan
03/07/2012, 12:59 PM
What happens if they qualify for Europe and draw a big club? What happens if they get drawn in the FAI cup semi-final at home or if they are in with a shout of winning the Premier on the last day next season? They have to be ambitious in increasing their support too.
I think I just came a little bit.
Can't believe someone would argue against better facilities? Even the argument about empty seats in Tallaght or Turners Cross is moot as they're the best supported teams in the country. They enhance the argument for facilities, not hinder them
nigel-harps1954
03/07/2012, 1:20 PM
Indeed, a very silly argument. All clubs should look in the same direction if you ask me. If the league is to grow and improve, stadium size as well as quality has to improve. Barstoolers will quicker go see a team in a big shiny new stadium than a small one stand open ground.
Barstoolers will quicker go see a team in a big shiny new stadium than a small one stand open ground.
They won't. Well unless it's a friendly against a British team. Standards of grounds is just an excuse - every ground could be the standard of Tallaght, and then it'd be something else.
They won't. Well unless it's a friendly against a British team. Standards of grounds is just an excuse - every ground could be the standard of Tallaght, and then it'd be something else.
So give them one less excuse while at the same time making our life more comfortable. Good work all round
So give them one less excuse while at the same time making our life more comfortable. Good work all round
100% agree with doing it (although I'd still like to see some decent terracing retained rather than the all seater stuff). However, it's delusional to think it will have much impact in terms of support through the gate.
100% agree with doing it (although I'd still like to see some decent terracing retained rather than the all seater stuff). However, it's delusional to think it will have much impact in terms of support through the gate.
It won't work if its the ONLY thing done to get people in but I don't think its a con-incidence that the 2 best grounds host the 2 biggest crowds.
Needs work of course
There's an interesting analysis on this here: http://www.significancemagazine.org/details/webexclusive/1794025/Do-new-stadiums-really-bring-the-crowds-flocking.html
It indicates that in England new stadia have increased crowds, but then Ireland may well be different since restriction of crowd by ground capacity simply isn't an issue.
Fully agree about building in terraces by the way. Although they have to be easily convertible in case you make Europe.
Charlie Darwin
03/07/2012, 2:17 PM
It won't work if its the ONLY thing done to get people in but I don't think its a con-incidence that the 2 best grounds host the 2 biggest crowds.
Needs work of course
No coincidence that Rovers' attendances are 4x what they were a few years ago. Nice reliable facilities don't bring people through the gates but they ensure they return.
citybone
03/07/2012, 7:18 PM
Great to see permanent work done on the Showgrounds, Great to see work continuing on Finn Harps new ground and Limerick plans to move back to Markets Field. Id say one covered terrace which is easily converted to seating and 3 modern seated stands but with small capacities is best, near town/city center if possible. For Limerick, concentrate on getting the Main stand ready for next season, and some covered terrace behind the goal, build the rest when needed, Tallaght does look silly but they cant sell the two sides out most of the time, I would suggest a small covered terrace behind one of the goals, but that it can be easily converted to seats if needed.
I wish Turners Cross still had a terrace, i miss the old shed, not the same since it was knocked. Our crowds went down and haven't recovered since it was knocked. other factors too but some of the old shed end regulars dont come back as often anymore. less atmosphere and too many kids.
citybone
03/07/2012, 7:23 PM
Finn Park is in a good location as far as im concerned, right beside a few bars, but a new ground with 5000? seats will be a unreal improvement. Terrecing is handy for coping with a big crowd but awful facilities inside.
nigel-harps1954
03/07/2012, 8:07 PM
Finn Park is in a good location as far as im concerned, right beside a few bars, but a new ground with 5000? seats will be a unreal improvement. Terrecing is handy for coping with a big crowd but awful facilities inside.
The new ground is only just down the road too, but not really a bar within the same walking distance as the current Finn Park. New ground is to have a bar in it far as I know.
BonnieShels
03/07/2012, 8:09 PM
Someone could get ahead of the curve.
Build a bar and they will come. I'll lodge my planning app in 2015ish. :P
oldfan
03/07/2012, 8:39 PM
They won't. Well unless it's a friendly against a British team. Standards of grounds is just an excuse - every ground could be the standard of Tallaght, and then it'd be something else.
They could .......if all the local Councils had €14 m each to spare :cake:
DannyInvincible
05/07/2012, 2:18 AM
Finn Park is in a good location as far as im concerned, right beside a few bars, but a new ground with 5000? seats will be a unreal improvement. Terrecing is handy for coping with a big crowd but awful facilities inside.
Does Finn Park have facilities inside?
KianD
06/07/2012, 12:58 PM
Does Finn Park have facilities inside?
We got some new toilets a few years ago...
Sam_Heggy
06/07/2012, 1:40 PM
and a tea room for VIP's
and a shop with the best tea and soup in the league
and well, that's about it.
A N Mouse
06/07/2012, 5:17 PM
and a tea room for VIP's
and a shop with the best tea and soup in the league
and well, that's about it.
Altogether now...
Your ground's a cowshed
Your fans are i...
nigel-harps1954
06/07/2012, 7:08 PM
Altogether now...
Your ground's a cowshed
Your fans are i...
..ice-cream?
Well we do seem to have rather melted away this summer..
horton
06/07/2012, 9:35 PM
..ice-cream?
In case you genuinely didn't know here's the full lyrics to that chant:
You are a culchie,
A smelly cuchie,
You're only happy on market day,
Your ground's a cow-shed,
Your fans are inbred,
You're only sheep-shaggers from Ballybofey.
- Sung to the tune of You Are My Sunshine
Funnily enough, there's a full page of Wikipedia about the Derry/Harps derby. I assume it's the same Danny Invincible as the one on here who was the main contributor for that page based on its history.
nigel-harps1954
06/07/2012, 11:06 PM
In fairness...I'd rather watch from our own cowshed, than a council owned dog track.
DannyInvincible
06/07/2012, 11:41 PM
In case you genuinely didn't know here's the full lyrics to that chant:
You are a culchie,
A smelly cuchie,
You're only happy on market day,
Your ground's a cow-shed,
Your fans are inbred,
You're only sheep-shaggers from Ballybofey.
- Sung to the tune of You Are My Sunshine
Funnily enough, there's a full page of Wikipedia about the Derry/Harps derby. I assume it's the same Danny Invincible as the one on here who was the main contributor for that page based on its history.
Haha! It was indeed. I included that pseudo-encyclopaedic item of information with tongue ever so slightly wedged in cheek.
masterk78
07/07/2012, 7:45 AM
Any update on Sligo's new stand? Will it be ready in time? Pictures please.
redobit
07/07/2012, 1:22 PM
No hard hats on any of them.
The lintel underneath that beam is undersized.
Had a look dong. Concrete lintel externally with a steel I beam beside it. You can sleep easy now.
Word on Orielweb that Oriel will revert back to a grass pitch in 2014 should the club survive..
bullit
07/07/2012, 8:46 PM
Word on Orielweb that Oriel will revert back to a grass pitch in 2014 should the club survive..
How can Matthews make that statement(because thats where its coming from) if he is leaving end of season ??
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