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joey B
16/04/2019, 1:24 PM
''No capital payments from govt to FAI until 2017 loan explained in full and proper governance put in place, so that puts proposed Glanmire, Dalymount, Drogheda and Finn Harps projects on back burner"
Phillip Quinn on Twitter.
marinobohs
16/04/2019, 1:27 PM
''No capital payments from govt to FAI until 2017 loan explained in full and proper governance put in place, so that puts proposed Glanmire, Dalymount, Drogheda and Finn Harps projects on back burner"
Phillip Quinn on Twitter.
Lets see how much respect Delaney has for the 'football family' now. He knows what needs to be done, and it isn't 'stepping aside'.
sbgawa
16/04/2019, 1:53 PM
The Politicians have the knives out and a target that is'nt them and makes them look good grandstanding.
This won't go away until entire board resigns and Delaney gone.
They need to get on with it at this stage.
According to this, funds may be allocated, but may not be drawn down. https://twitter.com/emmetmalone/status/1118149163429048320
So not quite as bleak.
marinobohs
16/04/2019, 2:16 PM
According to this, funds may be allocated, but may not be drawn down. https://twitter.com/emmetmalone/status/1118149163429048320
So not quite as bleak.
I suspect this is being done to ratchet up pressure on the FAI to dump Delaney (and possibly what's left of the Board) and will be sorted out long before any of those projects see the light of day.
PartySaint
16/04/2019, 3:28 PM
https://www.stpatsfc.com/news.php?id=8325
Dundalk’s new CEO made an address in the programme last night, said 'improving the stadium facilities' would be a priority in his tenure.
Not much more specific details on this (and a long list including almost every area would need looked at) and we have heard this before, but if they have spent 500k on the YDC to date, maybe the next phase would be spectator improvements, we can only live in hope..............
Nesta99
16/04/2019, 9:02 PM
Dundalk’s new CEO made an address in the programme last night, said 'improving the stadium facilities' would be a priority in his tenure.
Not much more specific details on this (and a long list including almost every area would need looked at) and we have heard this before, but if they have spent 500k on the YDC to date, maybe the next phase would be spectator improvements, we can only live in hope..............
Few litres of whitewash from Woodies so!
marinobohs
17/04/2019, 9:24 AM
https://www.stpatsfc.com/news.php?id=8325
St. Pats are within Dublin City Council area and they, the Council, have (unanimously) voted for the Dalymount project. I suspect the idea of them supporting a second stadium is very unlikely especially as the Dalymount/Phibsborough project will take years. Pity,but with that and the constant call's for housing in Dublin, timing just not on Pats side on this one I suspect
PartySaint
17/04/2019, 9:55 AM
St. Pats are within Dublin City Council area and they, the Council, have (unanimously) voted for the Dalymount project. I suspect the idea of them supporting a second stadium is very unlikely especially as the Dalymount/Phibsborough project will take years. Pity,but with that and the constant call's for housing in Dublin, timing just not on Pats side on this one I suspect
The council wouldn't have had to put a penny in though. Stadium, houses and amenities all for nothing.
marinobohs
17/04/2019, 12:23 PM
The council wouldn't have had to put a penny in though. Stadium, houses and amenities all for nothing.
Except handing over a multi million euro site. I don't think the project ever got FAI backing either, that's an influencer with politicians and will hold a lot more sway that a few local reps.
wonder88
17/04/2019, 10:00 PM
If Pats claim that their plan will not cost the public a penny, it means that the site they want has no value. Really, lets get real, and then maybe some progress can be made.
Dalymount is publicly owned now, so sport capital money would not be going to the FAI. Tesco may be more of a delay in this case.
RathfarnhamHoop
18/04/2019, 10:40 AM
The apocalypse is nigh, there are actual toilets in the away end at Oriel
ArFella
18/04/2019, 10:53 AM
The most significant thing to happen in Irish football in 2019, behold the Oriel Away toilets
https://foot.ie/attachment.php?attachmentid=2784&stc=1
outspoken
18/04/2019, 11:48 AM
The most significant thing to happen in Irish football in 2019, behold the Oriel Away toilets
https://foot.ie/attachment.php?attachmentid=2784&stc=1
Could do with a few for the shed too
Dalymountrower
18/04/2019, 11:58 AM
The most significant thing to happen in Irish football in 2019, behold the Oriel Away toilets
https://foot.ie/attachment.php?attachmentid=2784&stc=1
Some shelter from the rain for about 10 away fans.
PartySaint
18/04/2019, 12:01 PM
Except handing over a multi million euro site. I don't think the project ever got FAI backing either, that's an influencer with politicians and will hold a lot more sway that a few local reps.
It didn't get FAI backing as the FAI didn't even know about it. The club went out on their own on it, I felt it was a bad idea at the time not involving them but it wasn't that long the club had publicly spoken out against the FAI after thw whole 5k thing so I don't think support would have been forthcoming.
mcgonigle
18/04/2019, 12:38 PM
Sorry to burst the bubble but it is actually a customs post
Dalymountrower
18/04/2019, 1:05 PM
Sorry to burst the bubble but it is actually a customs post
Shouldn`t last too long so.
marinobohs
18/04/2019, 1:08 PM
It didn't get FAI backing as the FAI didn't even know about it. The club went out on their own on it, I felt it was a bad idea at the time not involving them but it wasn't that long the club had publicly spoken out against the FAI after thw whole 5k thing so I don't think support would have been forthcoming.
I was aware of that and that's why I said it was unlikely to succeed, irrespective of any local politicians coming on board.Whatever the merits of the concept it always had a bang of something rushed together and put in the public domain to pressurize DCC into handing over the site.
Like it or not there is a protocol for doing this stuff and effectively bypassing the FAI was never a runner
EatYerGreens
18/04/2019, 8:15 PM
If Pats claim that their plan will not cost the public a penny, it means that the site they want has no value. Really, lets get real, and then maybe some progress can be made.
Dalymount is publicly owned now, so sport capital money would not be going to the FAI. Tesco may be more of a delay in this case.
It won't cost a penny, as the public purse won't have to put any money in.
The notional land value of a publicly-owned housing estate is a different matter, and in many ways is irrelevant - unless the council intends to monetise/realise the 'value' of that site at some point. And even if they did, they'd have to spend the income replacing the units lost.
In short - this is the council turning down what at first glance appears to be a good deal from a number of angles.
RathfarnhamHoop
18/04/2019, 8:55 PM
It won't cost a penny, as the public purse won't have to put any money in.
The notional land value of a publicly-owned housing estate is a different matter, and in many ways is irrelevant - unless the council intends to monetise/realise the 'value' of that site at some point. And even if they did, they'd have to spend the income replacing the units lost.
In short - this is the council turning down what at first glance appears to be a good deal from a number of angles.
It seems odd that the DCC are refusing to play ball on this when the site is a lot more suited to having a stadium and the other amenities than the current ground and most of the other potential sites pats could move to in the area. I know you can say the council handing over the plot doesn't make sense for them but they're also getting a lot of community facilities built for them which goes some way to negating that.
They seem to be panicking because of the housing crisis and just throwing down houses forgetting that the lack of stuff to do in the area is part of the reason St.Michaels estate failed last time they tried it.
EatYerGreens
18/04/2019, 10:16 PM
It seems odd that the DCC are refusing to play ball on this when the site is a lot more suited to having a stadium and the other amenities than the current ground and most of the other potential sites pats could move to in the area. I know you can say the council handing over the plot doesn't make sense for them but they're also getting a lot of community facilities built for them which goes some way to negating that.
They seem to be panicking because of the housing crisis and just throwing down houses forgetting that the lack of stuff to do in the area is part of the reason St.Michaels estate failed last time they tried it.
Yeah. But surely someone else throwing down houses for them would be a win-win, and leave them free to focus their resources and effort on additional new housing units elsewhere ?
RathfarnhamHoop
20/04/2019, 12:38 PM
Any talk about the new stand in the Brandywell being extended to the original drawings? Seems to be near a sellout every week up there.
joey B
20/04/2019, 3:10 PM
https://dundalksport.ie/dfc-perth-we-need-togetherness-not-fellas-coming-out-with-absolute-horse-****-65974b8edf7
Vinny Perth going in 2 footed on Shane Ross and hes bang on.
Dalymountrower
20/04/2019, 3:18 PM
Ross tweeted his picture among the 40 or so UCD fans in the Des Kelly last night,Also made the point that he paid in ( good value according to himself). Hopefully he had a good look around at the crumbling facilities.
joey B
20/04/2019, 3:22 PM
Ross tweeted his picture among the 40 or so UCD fans in the Des Kelly last night,Also made the point that he paid in ( good value according to himself). Hopefully he had a good look around at the crumbling facilities.
Didn't he pay in as an OAP the cheap c**t!
pineapple stu
20/04/2019, 3:23 PM
It was a tenner for everyone into the Des Kelly for whatever reason
EatYerGreens
20/04/2019, 6:18 PM
Any talk about the new stand in the Brandywell being extended to the original drawings? Seems to be near a sellout every week up there.
Won't happen without a Stormont in place. And even then there's np guarantee it would either.
The crowds have been great so far this season. The place is pretty much full for every game.
Calcio Jack
20/04/2019, 8:53 PM
https://dundalksport.ie/dfc-perth-we-need-togetherness-not-fellas-coming-out-with-absolute-horse-****-65974b8edf7
Vinny Perth going in 2 footed on Shane Ross and hes bang on.
Perth successfully auditions for the part of The Fool to Winston Churchtown’ Lear
mcgonigle
20/04/2019, 9:31 PM
Perth successfully auditions for the part of The Fool to Winston Churchtown’ Lear
Nice to have a manager with a set
Could do with a few for the shed too
Jacks Update. A wheelchair ramp and railings look to have been added, and a slightly smaller version of the structure also added to the same spot on the shed size.
A N Mouse
23/04/2019, 10:16 PM
Nice to have a manager with a set
Of appropriate coaching badges?
Nesta99
24/04/2019, 10:36 AM
Of appropriate coaching badges?
John Gill has his badges a long time now...
mcgonigle
24/04/2019, 1:19 PM
Of appropriate coaching badges?
I'd applaud that reply if it hadn't taken you 2 days to come up with :p
RathfarnhamHoop
24/05/2019, 10:40 PM
Jesus the tramway end in Dalymount needs weeding. Full grown bushes there now.
sbgawa
24/05/2019, 11:43 PM
Nice to have a manager with a set
On a personal level I admire perth for speaking the truth
(I said that through gritted teeth) but he has a responsibility to dfc and having a pop at the minister for sport is not a good idea.
Shane ross owns the ball whether we like it or not
Martinho II
25/05/2019, 12:12 PM
Jesus the tramway end in Dalymount needs weeding. Full grown bushes there now.
who owns that end of that ground? its awful! didnt see game live at all but saw screenshot behind the goal!
RathfarnhamHoop
25/05/2019, 12:31 PM
who owns that end of that ground? its awful! didnt see game live at all but saw screenshot behind the goal!
Whoever owns the shopping centre owns the whole terrace behind the goal up to just before the big opening in the corner.
It used to be weeded every so often but hasn't been done in a while by the looks of it.
sbgawa
25/05/2019, 1:48 PM
Could bohs not get a couple of volunteers to weed the place.
Could bohs not get a couple of volunteers to weed the place.
You would have thought so with all those hipsters knocking around the place.
It did look terrible on tv last night.
Were those new toilets open last night in Dundalk away end Pats fans, I couldn’t see from my spot in the stand. They should have been. Think I read in last weeks prog they also erected new fencing in the away section to clean it up. Plenty more could be done as a quick fix. However I’m not even sure they can roof it as I also read somewhere else that would impede the view of 1/4 of the stand.
They should build a terrace behind both goals, cover it, leave space for seating to be installed, then demolish the current away end. However all you ever read is ‘gradual improvements’. At least the new CEO makes constant reference to it in his prog notes, but that could just be all talk. They did spend almost 500k on kitting out the YDC last winter I suppose, and the players have excellent facilities including a new dining area there before / after daily training.
Shame there seems to be little appetite for spectator improvements at the minute. Maybe it will take a good euro run, but both parties (DFC) and P6 are not short of a few bob. They know full well though that games can be easily moved to Tallaght and can still earn decent money at same time.
The basics should still be looked at / sorted out. We live in hope !
redarmyfaction
26/05/2019, 7:12 AM
You would have thought so with all those hipsters knocking around the place.
It did look terrible on tv last night.
Hipsters are more about weed in particular rather than weeds in general.
Even Connacht Street is starting to get Amazonian. Dayler is a bizarre spectacle, when the camera starting panning round the place during the delays I half expected David Attenborough to be crawling round in the bushes.
marinobohs
26/05/2019, 9:05 AM
Could bohs not get a couple of volunteers to weed the place.
Well if you have an hour to spare (obviously not dole collection day 😁)
That end hasn’t been used in years (and won’t be again) so unlikely we will do anything to it. Dublin City Council own the ground and will just do what’s required to make it serviceable. Volunteers do a huge amount at Dalymount but servicing a terrace that’s unused is not high on the priority list.
marinobohs
26/05/2019, 9:09 AM
You would have thought so with all those hipsters knocking around the place.
It did look terrible on tv last night.
Maybe we hoped the sligo farmers would feel the urge 😁
sbgawa
26/05/2019, 2:27 PM
A lad with a couple of hours and a weedwhacker would sort it out.
Surely worth the effort
RathfarnhamHoop
26/05/2019, 3:09 PM
A lad with a couple of hours and a weedwhacker would sort it out.
Surely worth the effort
Yeah it looks shocking and reflects badly on the whole league on TV.
I'd even go as far as saying Tolka looks better these days.
Loads of grounds have unused areas in them you don't see a entry to bloom growing in any of those areas just in Dalyer.
marinobohs
26/05/2019, 4:09 PM
Yeah it looks shocking and reflects badly on the whole league on TV.
I'd even go as far as saying Tolka looks better these days.
Loads of grounds have unused areas in them you don't see a entry to bloom growing in any of those areas just in Dalyer.
How is Milltown looking these days ? 😎
RathfarnhamHoop
26/05/2019, 5:30 PM
Inventive :rolleyes:
<Mod Snip.. Bloody hell>
Jaysus lads, this is getting a trifle offside !
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