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Ezeikial
24/03/2018, 4:53 PM
Disgraceful that a club closes off proper toilet facilities to away fans.
Probably the stadium owners who made that decision!
Ezeikial
24/03/2018, 4:59 PM
I know what you're getting at but in the instance youre wanting to bring up was different as it was a reaction to past behaviour in the ground by that set of supporters, also the portaloos weren't then put on grass in the rain.
Thankfully Rovers fans have no history of bad behaviour
WoodquayBoy
25/03/2018, 12:34 AM
Thankfully Rovers fans have no history of bad behaviour
Yes, and your lot are pure as the driven snow
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/regionals/argus/news/soccer-fan-jailed-for-role-in-battle-34416679.html
Ezeikial
25/03/2018, 5:16 AM
Yes, and your lot are pure as the driven snow
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/regionals/argus/news/soccer-fan-jailed-for-role-in-battle-34416679.html
Certainly not - nor have I made such a claim.
For what it is worth, in the case that you linked - a conviction for violent disorder in July 2013 - I think the individual involved can have no complaints about the 6 months sentence he received.
Yes, and your lot are pure as the driven snow
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/regionals/argus/news/soccer-fan-jailed-for-role-in-battle-34416679.html
Well done to the legal system for convicting him and sentencing him. We could do with more of it when there is trouble at matches. Decent people want to be safe on match evenings and do to want to to be associated with trouble like that.
Nesta99
25/03/2018, 11:31 AM
Yes, and your lot are pure as the driven snow
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/regionals/argus/news/soccer-fan-jailed-for-role-in-battle-34416679.html
You wont find defence of the indefensible among general Dundalk fans. No excuses, blaming others, claiming bias! Scumbaggery is scumbaggery and we dont want scumbags anywhere near the club. It is both refreshing and a relief that progress has been made with the recent bannings and reports such as the one above offer an amount of satisfaction to read.
monkey9
25/03/2018, 6:33 PM
Yes, and your lot are pure as the driven snow
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/regionals/argus/news/soccer-fan-jailed-for-role-in-battle-34416679.html
One man, a Bohs fan, whom Gardai found unconscious on the ground, told them to 'f**k off' when he came round and claimed he had fallen
https://foot.ie/attachment.php?attachmentid=2659&stc=1
Just curious to know how much would it cost to concrete the Town end at Oriel for terracing?
Any builders in the know?
And if it was done what would be the safe capacity for that end........1,000+ maybe!
It would really clean up that end of the ground and make it look more inviting than the dirty looking white washed walls and muddy grass bank of ground.
Any hope of that happening!
That would have seemed the logical step to take when they had the concrete in last week, and I`m sure it could have been completed in under a week also. Disappointing but not unexpected they only did the bare minimum, perhaps they have other plans for that area, but this was the time to have cleaned it up, and they should have done a little more. There might be more 'gradual' improvements during the season, as the new owners have used that word quite a lot (gradual) and they also mentioned looking to upgrade the away area too.
I would have been very sceptical of anything major happening, probably still am, but at least that job last week was done right I suppose and it wasn’t announced either, first most knew about it was from the club photos online, as I said earlier maybe they have more plans for later in the season.
Ezeikial
26/03/2018, 10:04 AM
There is no reason to expect any further upgrades in Oriel Park this season, unless there is European licence problems
micls
26/03/2018, 11:31 AM
There is no reason to expect any further upgrades in Oriel Park this season, unless there is European licence problems
Even then, presumably it would be easier to just use Tallaght? Ye'll have to go there anyway for later rounds
I think Dundalk should be ok to host two rounds of the EL this season, obviously assuming we get through the first round!
If the owners warrant it necessary, I think you are permitted if applied for 6 weeks or so in advance, and as long as this is erected on a solid surface, to put up a temporary stand. DFC put one up twice in the past few seasons, EA Sports Cup final Sept 2014, and the final league game v Cork a month later. It’s a bit of gamble though as you probably will not know your opposition until a few weeks or less before the game, plus Dundalk will be seeded so rules out any big teams they can draw. It will still be a European game but if they don’t make any adjustment, the attendance will be limited to 3,100 I think.
There might be other permanent items to improve, but as suggested by Ezeikial, these will probably be only due to UEFA licencing, and they might be only quick fixes, but there is a long list of those in the ground !
dundalkfc10
27/03/2018, 11:45 AM
I think Dundalk should be ok to host two rounds of the EL this season, obviously assuming we get through the first round!
If the owners warrant it necessary, I think you are permitted if applied for 6 weeks or so in advance, and as long as this is erected on a solid surface, to put up a temporary stand. DFC put one up twice in the past few seasons, EA Sports Cup final Sept 2014, and the final league game v Cork a month later. It’s a bit of gamble though as you probably will not know your opposition until a few weeks or less before the game, plus Dundalk will be seeded so rules out any big teams they can draw. It will still be a European game but if they don’t make any adjustment, the attendance will be limited to 3,100 I think.
There might be other permanent items to improve, but as suggested by Ezeikial, these will probably be only due to UEFA licencing, and they might be only quick fixes, but there is a long list of those in the ground !
Cliftonville got permission to build a temporary stand the full length of the pitch when they drew Celtic.
No reason why UEFA wouldnt allow us do the same
redobit
29/03/2018, 9:55 AM
Cliftonville got permission to build a temporary stand the full length of the pitch when they drew Celtic.
No reason why UEFA wouldnt allow us do the same
We had a temporary stand in the Showgrounds on the Railway End (before permanent stand was built) when we played Vorskla Poltava in 3rd round Qualifying of Europa. Its something odd like if you have a permanent structure in place you can put a temp stand on it.
Nesta99
29/03/2018, 10:58 AM
A solid/permanent base so behind the Carrick Rd end of Oriel would be ok but not the town end goal with the grass bank. That was one of the reasons for hoping that that whole area of the ground would have a full bay of concrete laid rather than just the path being widened.
RathfarnhamHoop
29/03/2018, 12:04 PM
A solid/permanent base so behind the Carrick Rd end of Oriel would be ok but not the town end goal with the grass bank. That was one of the reasons for hoping that that whole area of the ground would have a full bay of concrete laid rather than just the path being widened.
There's something romantic about a grassy bank behind a goal but from a practical pov tarmac makes more sense. Although maybe the fact they didn't do that means they've bigger plans for behind that goal in the near future? We live in hope
Longfordian
29/03/2018, 4:01 PM
I saw most of their press conference. They were politely answering questions on the ground but not giving any indication that major improvements are in any way a priority for them.
Ezeikial
29/03/2018, 5:38 PM
I saw most of their press conference. They were politely answering questions on the ground but not giving any indication that major improvements are in any way a priority for them.
They were much more specific. They clearly outlined that major improvements were not a priority.
The priority outlined was footballing success; they indicated that they would consider reinvesting in infrastructure subsequently.
The only commitments made were to the Puddle Project, and "looking at" anything needed for Europa League early rounds
Nesta99
29/03/2018, 6:14 PM
What sort of structure is the seating behind the goal in Richmond Park, is it a permanent structure or a temporary type structure there permanently?
oriel
29/03/2018, 11:21 PM
They were much more specific. They clearly outlined that major improvements were not a priority.
The priority outlined was footballing success; they indicated that they would consider reinvesting in infrastructure subsequently.
The only commitments made were to the Puddle Project, and "looking at" anything needed for Europa League early rounds
Mal Rodgers the new CEO later said they would look at improving the away end. Another term used was any future and longer term redevelopment would likely to be comimg from earned income from Europe.
What sort of structure is the seating behind the goal in Richmond Park, is it a permanent structure or a temporary type structure there permanently?
It's a scaffolding type structure, but there is a concrete base beneath it. Temporary looking, but it's been there since 2007. There was some repair work carried out a few years ago. There was a grassy hill there previously which was levelled out.
Nesta99
30/03/2018, 1:28 PM
I remember the advertisment hoardings on the bank all right. It also meets UEFA requirements i's sure. It would be a temporary solution that would ideal behind the Town goal after the right prep work. Dont suppose there is any guesstimate on the cost? Can it be dismantled for reuse elsewhere if say a new stand was to be bult?
nigel-harps1954
04/04/2018, 9:52 AM
Contractor on site today at Harps new ground
nr637
04/04/2018, 10:29 AM
Contractor on site today at Harps new ground
Any images as this is a rare view and nobody will believe you. :mad:
nigel-harps1954
04/04/2018, 12:12 PM
Any images as this is a rare view and nobody will believe you. :mad:
Will swing by on the way back from work and take a picture of a digger so...it's nothing overly exciting. They're clearing off some of the site behind there they've done work previously. Would assume they're getting ready to move in for building work again.
Nesta99
04/04/2018, 12:24 PM
Value of housing developments recover and the contractor is back on site in Stranrolar. Land swap for Finn Park must be worth the developer's while again...
Banks offering interest only buy to let mortgages, nearly €5 a pint, its all very de ja vu!
sidewayspasser
04/04/2018, 4:47 PM
Wikipedia names the new Harps stadium as one of the venues for next year's U17 Euros (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_UEFA_European_Under-17_Championship). No source of that information is given though. Does anyone know anything about that?
nigel-harps1954
04/04/2018, 8:20 PM
Wikipedia names the new Harps stadium as one of the venues for next year's U17 Euros (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_UEFA_European_Under-17_Championship). No source of that information is given though. Does anyone know anything about that?
Strange one that. Wouldn't expect it to be completed by then.
Shearer
04/04/2018, 9:09 PM
Took a friend to his first League of Ireland game lately and when I googled the Markets Field to show him where we'd be sitting I came across this artist's rendition from a 2013 Limerick Leader article of what the grounds could potentially look like. What he have is a fair far cry!
https://www.limerickleader.ie/resizer/750/563/true/imported_images/fafd20c5e61447c8e2f2a2b80d343946.jpg--an_image_of_what_the_new_markets_field_would_like_ like_if_developed.jpg
Eminence Grise
04/04/2018, 9:40 PM
U17 Euros (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_UEFA_European_Under-17_Championship).
I think that's the amount to date spent on Harps new stadium.:cool:
Charlie Darwin
04/04/2018, 10:05 PM
Took a friend to his first League of Ireland game lately and when I googled the Markets Field to show him where we'd be sitting I came across this artist's rendition from a 2013 Limerick Leader article of what the grounds could potentially look like. What he have is a fair far cry!
https://www.limerickleader.ie/resizer/750/563/true/imported_images/fafd20c5e61447c8e2f2a2b80d343946.jpg--an_image_of_what_the_new_markets_field_would_like_ like_if_developed.jpg
A good rule of thumb when you look at plans for a LOI ground and want to know how it'll actually turn out is to halve the number of stands and quadruple the time needed to build it.
Shearer
04/04/2018, 10:36 PM
A good rule of thumb when you look at plans for a LOI ground and want to know how it'll actually turn out is to halve the number of stands and quadruple the time needed to build it.
I will say one thing, if what is in the picture was built you'd have one of, if not the best grounds in the league right there.
ger121
05/04/2018, 9:38 PM
A good rule of thumb when you look at plans for a LOI ground and want to know how it'll actually turn out is to halve the number of stands and quadruple the time needed to build it.
By rule do thumb,you mean covering most of the plans with your thumb and the visible part is what you actually get.
John83
06/04/2018, 5:34 AM
You'd want to have a pretty big thumb for that to work.
Took a friend to his first League of Ireland game lately and when I googled the Markets Field to show him where we'd be sitting I came across this artist's rendition from a 2013 Limerick Leader article of what the grounds could potentially look like. What he have is a fair far cry!
https://www.limerickleader.ie/resizer/750/563/true/imported_images/fafd20c5e61447c8e2f2a2b80d343946.jpg--an_image_of_what_the_new_markets_field_would_like_ like_if_developed.jpg
Well phases 1 & 2 were to get the ground up to the regulations while the original main stand on one side plus the provision of away covered seating behind one goal was also included. The provision of terracing and cover on the side opposite the main stand an the other goal end was to be considered for the future as the team developed. So I suppose its a typical Irish development!
WoodquayBoy
06/04/2018, 9:46 PM
Took a friend to his first League of Ireland game lately and when I googled the Markets Field to show him where we'd be sitting I came across this artist's rendition from a 2013 Limerick Leader article of what the grounds could potentially look like. What he have is a fair far cry!
https://www.limerickleader.ie/resizer/750/563/true/imported_images/fafd20c5e61447c8e2f2a2b80d343946.jpg--an_image_of_what_the_new_markets_field_would_like_ like_if_developed.jpg
Everyone missing the key words here: “could POTENTIALLY look like”. Still time 😀
ger121
08/04/2018, 12:00 AM
You'd want to have a pretty big thumb for that to work.
If it works on the sun....
desaintsno.12
11/04/2018, 6:22 AM
https://www.stpatsfc.com/news.php?id=7783
pineapple stu
11/04/2018, 6:24 AM
Have I just woken up in 2006?
desaintsno.12
11/04/2018, 6:27 AM
We like to roll it out every so often.
pineapple stu
11/04/2018, 6:30 AM
Imagine how off-the-wall the plans would have been if Pat's had taken the FAI's five grand?
Well itd be a nice novelty if a club was the one doing the opportunistic land grab for change
ger121
11/04/2018, 7:42 AM
Good Luck to Pat’s I say.
sbgawa
11/04/2018, 7:49 AM
would be phenomenal if it happened , Bohs and Shels playing out of the new Dalyer, PAts in their new 12000 all seater and Rovers in a completed 4 sided Tallaght Stadium.
Its not an impossible dream
Ezeikial
11/04/2018, 8:04 AM
would be phenomenal if it happened , Bohs and Shels playing out of the new Dalyer, PAts in their new 12000 all seater and Rovers in a completed 4 sided Tallaght Stadium.
Its not an impossible dream
That will never work without direct bus routes (or spaceship landing spots)
nigel-harps1954
11/04/2018, 8:05 AM
12,000 seater stadium.
Big corporate facilities.
Loads of shopping.
Loads of houses.
Fancy European archeticture.
..
Can't host a group stage game in Europe.
White Horse
11/04/2018, 8:55 AM
Have I just woken up in 2006?
I thought it was April 1st.
D24Saint
11/04/2018, 10:23 AM
The plans have legs imo. The type of people Mr K works with are well capable of doing the project which not only would be fantastic for the club but the entire area.
White Horse
11/04/2018, 10:43 AM
The plans have legs imo. The type of people Mr K works with are well capable of doing the project which not only would be fantastic for the club but the entire area.
Who ultimately will bear the cost of the stadium?
Will it Dublin City Council through a lower sales price for the land, or Kelleher through a lower profit margin on the shopping centre?
D24Saint
11/04/2018, 10:52 AM
The huge ace we have with this proposal is the urban development aspect with shopping & leisure facilities aswell as having Richmond up our sleves that can be used for more housing. I can't see any other tender ticking those sort of boxs it's all depends on what DCC want now.
Dalymountrower
11/04/2018, 10:54 AM
The plans have legs imo. The type of people Mr K works with are well capable of doing the project which not only would be fantastic for the club but the entire area.
Inchicore badly needs some major investment in the area. Unfortunately, Dublin City Council doesn't have the wit or imagination to lead on it.Leaving social and recreational development to "Developers hasn't exactly worked either. A new stadium with no public funding? Unlikely.
While I would love to see Pats stay in Inchicore in a brand new stadium, stadium sharing in Tallaght would make a lot more sense.
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