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ArFella
18/10/2018, 10:43 AM
https://connachttribune.ie/gaas-mountain-south-to-be-turned-into-a-e20m-soccer-centre-of-excellence-132/
Wow that's great news for Galway United and Connacht football as a whole.
Who needs the Saudis eh? Sounds like Galway can take on all-Comers without them.
marinobohs
18/10/2018, 1:36 PM
Not exactly surprising, but Bohs won't be out of Dalymount at the end of next season.
https://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/opening-date-for-new-dalymount-park-pushed-back-until-2023-37432384.html
Still a lot of fences to jump before building of the new Dalymount commences and it was important the club didn't find ourselves in limbo (between grounds) or away from Dalymount any longer than necessary. I think it would be hopeful in the extreme to suggest that the various stages (planning, tendering etc) would be completed in time to start work next year.
SeanDMRooney
18/10/2018, 3:17 PM
Do you think theyll be in by 2023 ?
Still a lot of fences to jump before building of the new Dalymount commences and it was important the club didn't find ourselves in limbo (between grounds) or away from Dalymount any longer than necessary. I think it would be hopeful in the extreme to suggest that the various stages (planning, tendering etc) would be completed in time to start work next year.
marinobohs
18/10/2018, 3:37 PM
Do you think theyll be in by 2023 ?
Difficult to know. funding, tendering and the favourite Irish past time of planning to be resolved, and that's all before the demolition / rebuilding even starts. All going well 2023 is certainly realistic but things rarely 'go well' in Irish publicly funded projects.
SeanDMRooney
18/10/2018, 3:45 PM
Difficult to know. funding, tendering and the favourite Irish past time of planning to be resolved, and that's all before the demolition / rebuilding even starts. All going well 2023 is certainly realistic but things rarely 'go well' in Irish publicly funded projects.
What does this design mean for the shopping centre ? I know some mad *******s wanted to make the tower a listed building
nigel-harps1954
18/10/2018, 5:18 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/1018/1005127-finn-harps-stadium-work-to-restart-in-12m-project/
SeanDMRooney
18/10/2018, 5:36 PM
5 years... 5 years
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/1018/1005127-finn-harps-stadium-work-to-restart-in-12m-project/
nigel-harps1954
18/10/2018, 5:42 PM
5 years... 5 years
Funny when at the AGM last week they said three years. It's already gone two years more.
"Okay, it'll be another ten years."
sidewayspasser
18/10/2018, 5:46 PM
What's taking them so long, once they get going again?
nigel-harps1954
18/10/2018, 5:55 PM
What's taking them so long, once they get going again?
http://www.curdhome.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/P1020616-brooms-and-shovels.jpg
nigel-harps1954
18/10/2018, 5:56 PM
On a serious note, RTE News had a report on it there. First stand and all ancillary facilities to be done for 2021 season with the other three stands in phases, second stand seating 1,700 people and then two end terraces, to be finished for 2023.
SeanDMRooney
18/10/2018, 5:57 PM
What's taking them so long, once they get going again?
This what makes my blood absolutely boil is that nobody knows or will say, at least when Rovers were stopped everyone knew what the cause was here its blamed on everyone and no one so nobody knows who to hold to account.
nigel-harps1954
18/10/2018, 6:05 PM
This explains it a bit and shows the first phase of work.
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Shearer
18/10/2018, 9:54 PM
On a serious note, RTE News had a report on it there. First stand and all ancillary facilities to be done for 2021 season with the other three stands in phases, second stand seating 1,700 people and then two end terraces, to be finished for 2023.
Mind boggles that they didn't show the whole shebang in the 3D presentation.
Straightstory
19/10/2018, 10:13 AM
Yes - apart from main stand, mostly trees around the pitch. Nice trees, though.
Park_Lane
19/10/2018, 10:40 AM
It has been a great week for CGI stadiums in the league, at least scale models are no more.
EatYerGreens
19/10/2018, 11:17 AM
https://connachttribune.ie/gaas-mountain-south-to-be-turned-into-a-e20m-soccer-centre-of-excellence-132/
Fantastic news all round.
How far would this be from the centre of Galway city ?
Yes - apart from main stand, mostly trees around the pitch. Nice trees, though.
I am 100% up for watching games while balanced precariously in a tree and drinking cans.
I think we may have just found the silver bullet that will elevate the league to new (tree lined) heights.
Real ale Madrid
19/10/2018, 11:23 AM
Put together what a 10 team Premier Division could look like in 5 years time from a stadium potential point of view - doesn't look too bad - St. Pats is a long shot - Galway to share with Connacht Rugby but developments at Dalymount / Finn Harps etc it doesn't paint a bad picture.
EatYerGreens
19/10/2018, 11:26 AM
On a serious note, RTE News had a report on it there. First stand and all ancillary facilities to be done for 2021 season with the other three stands in phases, second stand seating 1,700 people and then two end terraces, to be finished for 2023.
I hope the project does make it beyond first base/phase, as we all know what tends to happen to stadium plans in Ireland that are to unfurl in stages (Tallaght being the exception).
EatYerGreens
19/10/2018, 11:27 AM
Put together what a 10 team Premier Division could look like in 5 years time from a stadium potential point of view - doesn't look too bad - St. Pats is a long shot - Galway to share with Connacht Rugby but developments at Dalymount / Finn Harps etc it doesn't paint a bad picture.
Ba-boom ! :)
That Pats proposal died a few months back unfortunately, so is longer than a long shot I'm afraid.
EatYerGreens
19/10/2018, 11:28 AM
It has been a great week for CGI stadiums in the league, at least scale models are no more.
Or DVDs. The advance of technology has sadly rendered them irrelevant too.
marinobohs
19/10/2018, 1:33 PM
Put together what a 10 team Premier Division could look like in 5 years time from a stadium potential point of view - doesn't look too bad - St. Pats is a long shot - Galway to share with Connacht Rugby but developments at Dalymount / Finn Harps etc it doesn't paint a bad picture.
Will be interesting (possibly scary) to see in ten years time how many of those actually come to fruition
CorribsideSteve
19/10/2018, 2:41 PM
it's about 30 km, so a half hours drive, but, Galway is just rapidly grinding to an absolute halt with nonstop traffic so probably a bit closer to 45 mins. Athenry's about 10 mins by Train though from Galway Station.The Comer Brother's plan sounds nice but I'll believe it when ground gets broken. Ireland's a great 'ol place for a new Plan. Lot's of talking, little doing, as Harps are finding out.
pineapple stu
19/10/2018, 2:51 PM
Will be interesting (possibly scary) to see in ten years time how many of those actually come to fruition
Coincidentally, this thread is just over ten years old. Highlights of the first page include Harristown and the new Drogheda stadium
Martinho II
19/10/2018, 3:30 PM
it's about 30 km, so a half hours drive, but, Galway is just rapidly grinding to an absolute halt with nonstop traffic so probably a bit closer to 45 mins. Athenry's about 10 mins by Train though from Galway Station.The Comer Brother's plan sounds nice but I'll believe it when ground gets broken. Ireland's a great 'ol place for a new Plan. Lot's of talking, little doing, as Harps are finding out.
so this will be just the training ground for Galway Utd so?
CorribsideSteve
19/10/2018, 3:53 PM
so this will be just the training ground for Galway Utd so?
not sure to be honest, but it would make sense to do so as part of the overall idea of a center of excellence.
Ba-boom ! :)
That Pats proposal died a few months back unfortunately, so is longer than a long shot I'm afraid.
Not necessarily. Council hasn't decided for sure yet and the club haven't given up. Fine Gael councillor Catherine Byrne is unhappy with the approved plan and is making some waves. I'd agree that it's still unlikely, but while there's hope we can cling to it....
Btw, was wondering what the hell the Dundalk one was - just got the joke 😀
ToberonaTornado
19/10/2018, 11:13 PM
I am 100% up for watching games while balanced precariously in a tree and drinking cans.
I think we may have just found the silver bullet that will elevate the league to new (tree lined) heights.
Don't be giving Bohs any ideas there :(
bohsmug
20/10/2018, 8:59 AM
Don't be giving Bohs any ideas there :(
The Bohs have got no money
We drink cans in a tree
gufcfan
20/10/2018, 12:11 PM
How far would this be from the centre of Galway city ?
~20 mins from where motorway starts on east side of city. Just a few mins from Athenry on opposite side of motorway.
SeanDMRooney
20/10/2018, 2:37 PM
Would the new ting road make a difference ?
Martinho II
20/10/2018, 6:47 PM
~20 mins from where motorway starts on east side of city. Just a few mins from Athenry on opposite side of motorway.
was wondering where it was as was on a bus from longford to galway to see my nephew play at Mervue.. went past Athenry so it must be on loughrea side of it. was in mervues ground today some setup they have. pity the relationship with mervue, galway utd and salthill didnt work out!
Kingdom
22/10/2018, 12:49 PM
Not necessarily. Council hasn't decided for sure yet and the club haven't given up. Fine Gael councillor Catherine Byrne is unhappy with the approved plan and is making some waves. I'd agree that it's still unlikely, but while there's hope we can cling to it....
Btw, was wondering what the hell the Dundalk one was - just got the joke ��
Catherine Byrne is a TD, and rightly or wrongly, she doesn't have much clout within FG and I would say will be finished as a TD in the next Dail.
We're really unlucky in DSC that the type of politician that the area needs as the Alternative TD - a Boyd Barrett, Ruane etc, just isn't there with Joan Collins and O'Snodaigh. A Pats stadium isn't on their agenda, whereas Brid Smith has focussed heavily on the other social issues, with some success.
Partizan
26/10/2018, 8:58 PM
Lee Power on WLR FM just before tonight's final home game of the season stated that he is working with Waterford City Council to further add/develop the RSC.
marinobohs
30/10/2018, 2:12 PM
Don't be giving Bohs any ideas there :(
Sitting in trees would still be a better experience than the oriel park 'away' section :D
ToberonaTornado
30/10/2018, 4:12 PM
Sitting in trees would still be a better experience than the oriel park 'away' section :D
10 days later.....
ya should have replied bout 4am just to keep the hipperish vibe going man! ;)
pesky
10/11/2018, 12:10 PM
Just wondering what the story is with Oriel Park. I know that before Peak 7 became involved with the club there was money in the bank and plans to develop parts of the ground. I seem to remember Peak 7 saying they had no plans to develop the ground in the short term, which seems a bit odd when you consider how well they are doing on the field and with the revenue they have. Anyway just wondering if there there are any concrete plans for the ground in the long term, what they are, and how Dundalk fans feel about the lack of investment off the field ?
Nesta99
10/11/2018, 12:49 PM
See Bohs fans we can sell our club twice too - Peak6 and Peak7!!!
Nesta99
10/11/2018, 12:58 PM
Just wondering what the story is with Oriel Park. I know that before Peak 7 became involved with the club there was money in the bank and plans to develop parts of the ground. I seem to remember Peak 7 saying they had no plans to develop the ground in the short term, which seems a bit odd when you consider how well they are doing on the field and with the revenue they have. Anyway just wondering if there there are any concrete plans for the ground in the long term, what they are, and how Dundalk fans feel about the lack of investment off the field ?
There are no concrete plans that we know for sure. The YDC is being upgraded for supporter facilities and as 'high perfromance' centre for the team with sports science and video analysis at the centre of that. There fans in the know type stuff on gradual improvements ala temporary stand behind the town goal running to extenstion of the existing of the stand yr 3-5 but there is nothing to say this is true.
Fan are not happy at all with Oriel Park not being factored in to the development of the club. There are many many basic things that can be done that would improve things and are not bank balance breakers - some fans would be happy to see a lick of paint and proper clean and functional toilets at the very minimum and there is no excuse for not doing this.
This is the first close season under Peak6 ownership so we might see things happening. Prior to this we didnt have any of the financial clout of Peak6 for either player signings or any other improvements. So the next 100 days or so are being very carefully watched by Dundalk fans.
EatYerGreens
10/11/2018, 1:57 PM
There are no concrete plans that we know for sure. The YDC is being upgraded for supporter facilities and as 'high perfromance' centre for the team with sports science and video analysis at the centre of that. There fans in the know type stuff on gradual improvements ala temporary stand behind the town goal running to extenstion of the existing of the stand yr 3-5 but there is nothing to say this is true.
Fan are not happy at all with Oriel Park not being factored in to the development of the club. There are many many basic things that can be done that would improve things and are not bank balance breakers - some fans would be happy to see a lick of paint and proper clean and functional toilets at the very minimum and there is no excuse for not doing this.
This is the first close season under Peak6 ownership so we might see things happening. Prior to this we didnt have any of the financial clout of Peak6 for either player signings or any other improvements. So the next 100 days or so are being very carefully watched by Dundalk fans.
There are very good reasons not to do it if you've bought a football club to make money out of European progression.
How will new toilets or a lick of paint help Dundalk reach the group stages again ? Especially when if they did those games wouldn't be played at Oriel Park anyway.
This is the downside of having owners who are in it for the money. New toilets and paint would be small beer to them. But if you've bought a football club to make money, you'll focus your time and resources on the things that will maximise that return. That means players, not paint and bogs. Everything else is a distraction from your game plan.
The basic things could have been done last winter, or during the season just gone. I don't see why see why think there's be a new lick of paint or whatever at Oriel before next season.
mcgonigle
10/11/2018, 6:09 PM
The basic things could have been done last winter, or during the season just gone. I don't see why see why think there's be a new lick of paint or whatever at Oriel before next season.
Well some basic things were done such as drainage and resurfacing works behind the goal. There was a lot of painting that went on as well so that is probably why people expect more of this to be done
Martinho II
10/11/2018, 6:43 PM
I know with ourselves that our supporters club would fundraise to get painting done and other things ie scoreboard. maybe thats the key let the board deal with infrastucture improvements and the supporters club can deal with the rest of improvements.
Longfordian
11/11/2018, 9:03 AM
Harder to get the necessary goodwill to do that when you’ve been taken over by a group of millionaires with no real connection to the club.
micls
11/11/2018, 10:10 AM
I know with ourselves that our supporters club would fundraise to get painting done and other things ie scoreboard. maybe thats the key let the board deal with infrastucture improvements and the supporters club can deal with the rest of improvements.
The club earned millions in Europe and we're bought by a multi million euro company. It would be a bit cheeky to ask fans to fund raise for a bit of paint!
Martinho II
11/11/2018, 7:22 PM
The club earned millions in Europe and we're bought by a multi million euro company. It would be a bit cheeky to ask fans to fund raise for a bit of paint!
no what i mean is with us supporters club members pay a tenner each season and supporters club committee would also do the fundraising themselves with profits from various activities ie car boot sales going to the club
Shearer
11/11/2018, 9:27 PM
It really is about the small things to bring people into grounds and keep them there.
Top sides are fortunate that probably a lot of people will hop on the bandwagon for a night out but getting the basics right like decent toilets and aesthetics is vital.
I think clubs with a bar have a massive advantage.
Wonder would Cork think of getting in something as minimal as a chip van type bar that would top off what is already a fantastic ground and match day experience.
oriel
12/11/2018, 10:50 AM
Bars are critical for income, and I was always surprised Cork didn’t look at building one with the help of the MFA, but I do realise there is limited space in their ground, with most of the stands having same limiations underneath.
Dundalk could have 3 supporters bars up and running next season if their plans to upgrade the YDC go ahead, the owners were talking last month about changing the routine where most fans arrive 10 mins or so before KO to improve their ‘match day experience’ and having one open for use in the YDC would cater for that whole shed side in terms of toliets and better food options, they even talked about pre and post match entertainment.
Would still love to see some spectator remedial work done, the town side of the stand looks dreadful, a lick of paint would change it, and if they won’t spend big money elsewhere, install a damn roof on both sides of the stand, and block off the back of the away area, build proper toilets, it wouldn’t completely fix the problem but it would help things and it wouldn’t cost the earth, neither would a Pats style semi-perm stand behind the town goal, even without a roof.
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