Stadium Updates (All Clubs)

[nigel-harps1954]

The original cost was something close to 8 or 9 million if I remember right, but that was nearly 10 years ago and included the price of Finn Park which has obviously been lowered significantly since.

The builder can't afford to put up the costs themselves far as I'm aware. They took an awful hit in the downturn. As well as this, we're constantly being told that the money should be released soon, so I can only assume the builder is being told the same.

I'm only speaking from what I'm told. I've no inside information from the builder and the club keep very hush on inside information too. This is the annoyance most fans have, that there's so little information from a fans run club, to the fans themselves. Hopefully we'll get more answers at the AGM if nothing has started by then, but I'd certainly hope we've a heap of work done by April or May.

[Dodge]

Any chance the floodrights are to be replaced with ones less intrusive to the view? Four in the corner would be a huge change. Or more strategically placed ones if there have to be 8.

costs a ton to get new floodlights though. Certainly when the ones already there cost 100k to upgrade

[outspoken]

The original cost was something close to 8 or 9 million if I remember right, but that was nearly 10 years ago and included the price of Finn Park which has obviously been lowered significantly since.

The builder can't afford to put up the costs themselves far as I'm aware. They took an awful hit in the downturn. As well as this, we're constantly being told that the money should be released soon, so I can only assume the builder is being told the same.

I'm only speaking from what I'm told. I've no inside information from the builder and the club keep very hush on inside information too. This is the annoyance most fans have, that there's so little information from a fans run club, to the fans themselves. Hopefully we'll get more answers at the AGM if nothing has started by then, but I'd certainly hope we've a heap of work done by April or May.

At least ye have an AGM to ask questions at unlike us.

[Dodge]

Then these costs will be earned through ticket prices?

I'm not sure what you mean here

[ForzaHoop]

Demolition and rebuild proposed for Dalymount Park
Dublin City Council proposes to develop site along with Phibsborough shopping centre

Dublin City Council bought Dalymount Park from Bohemians football club for €3.8 million last year.



The complete demolition of Dalymount Park soccer stadium and its redevelopment in a simultaneous construction project with a new Phibsborough shopping centre, is being considered by Dublin City Council.

Two weeks ago the council revealed plans to redevelop the sports ground it bought last year from Bohemians football club for €3.8 million as a 10,000 capacity all-seater stadium on a phased basis over a number of years.

However councillors were told on Tuesday the council is to seek talks with the new owners of the neighbouring 1960s shopping centre with a view to pursuing the concurrent development of the two adjoining sites.

“It would be better if it could be done in conjunction with the shopping centre. If that doesn’t happen we will do it on a phased basis, but our opinion is that the stadium is no longer fit for purpose and our preferred option would be the complete demolition and rebuilding,” the council’s senior executive officer Jim Beggan said.

The phased development would take considerably longer, Mr Beggan said with construction unlikely to begin before 2018 or 2019 and taking several years to complete. Phased construction would also be more disruptive for local residents he said, whereas if the stadium and shopping centre were being demolished and re-built “in one go” the pitch could be used as a site area.

The shopping centre is in the control of Nama, which offered it for sale last year with a with a guide price of €15 million. Nama has chosen a preferred bidder but has yet to confirm the sale or the identity of the bidder. However it is likely the new owner will seek to immediately demolish and redevelop the old shopping centre.
Discussions

The council is in discussions with Minister for Transport Paschal Donohoe to part fund the €20 million stadium development. Although a positive outcome is expected, there would be a “significant shortfall” in funding Mr Beggan said. If a deal could be done with the shopping centre owners, in relation to “land share or financial contribution”, this would help with the costs, he said.

While he did not know what the preferred bidders plans were, he said it was likely they would have a “very direct impact on the stadium”.

The new stadium is also likely to be used for events other than football matches, he said. “It would be our hope that the stadium would go some way towards paying for itself so we would be looking at other possible uses, which may or may not be concerts.”

During the boom, Bohemians had planned to sell Dalymount and move to a green-field site close to Dublin Airport. It was expected at the time that the shopping centre and the sports grounds would be combined to create a new mixed-use “village centre” for Phibsborough.

But the plan collapsed when the economy crashed and the club got into severe financial difficulties, with the purchase by the council last year helping to clear substantial liabilities which had been amassed.

[White Horse]

The council is in discussions with Minister for Transport Paschal Donohoe to part fund the €20 million stadium development.

Sounds like an awful lot of money for the plans that were published earlier. €20 million would sort out a lot of LOI grounds.

[Nesta99]

€20mil? As mentioned leave the Jodi Stand alone, develop Connaught Rd side and the Des Kelly Stand. The shopping centre could be a combined project where corporate boxes could be included along with food outlets that open during the day and on match night with views of the ground somehow. Thats 6000 seats added to the Jodi so just shy of the 10k capacity with some wriggle room with the shopping centre development. Unless the 20mil includes building the shopping centre for someone too it is a lot for a 10k stadium even in the current 'recovering' economy where construction folk are desperate to drive build pricing back to 2006-7 levels. There are more ifs and buts to this than there was with previous sales and or development at Daleymount.

[vinnie]

Would Bohs play in Tolka if it went ahead like this ?

[Nesta99]

Would Shels have them? Rovers could return the favour for their tenure in Dalymount and lobby SDCC!

[vinnie]

Would Shels have them? Rovers could return the favour for their tenure in Dalymount and lobby SDCC!

Think Bohs would rather play in the Phoenix park than play home matches in Tallaght in fairness, at least Tolka is close to home for them

[Nesta99]

Where's the fun in that?

[Ezeikial]

Think Bohs would rather play in the Phoenix park than play home matches in Tallaght in fairness, at least Tolka is close to home for them

Tallaght is out of the question - No direct bus

[Nesta99]

never gets old!

[ForzaHoop]

Bohs could play in Santry :)

[Nesta99]

and get fing soaked on the away terrace?

[Kingdom]

Where does the FAI, John Delaney and the UEFA 2020 legacy money that was earmarked for Dalymount fit into all this?

[The Donie Forde]

First visit to the Market's Field last night, well impressed.

[brendy_éire]

Bit of a push on for Derry to be included as a Rugby WC venue, using Celtic Park. Derry county board open to the idea, and a mention was made of the football club using it this season. Motion to go before GAA Congress next week for opening up county grounds, and only county grounds, to other sports.
Perhaps this is the reason for the delay to announcing where we will be playing our final league fixtures?

[patrickccfc]

https://mobile.twitter.com/corkcityfcnews/status/704547013053030400

Didn't know where else to put this. Any other clubs do this? Personally I think it's great as I'm an asthmatic, but I'd imagine many will be unhappy.

[gufc4life]

https://mobile.twitter.com/corkcityfcnews/status/704547013053030400

Didn't know where else to put this. Any other clubs do this? Personally I think it's great as I'm an asthmatic, but I'd imagine many will be unhappy.

Eamonn Deacy Park is no smoking except in designated areas where there is signs up .

[nigel-harps1954]

There's smoking areas everywhere else in the country, why should any stadium be different?

Corks stance however might be a little harsh though. Not hard to designate a smoking area at the side of each stand.

[Dodge]

They didn't say Turners Cross was no smoking. They said the stands are no smoking. I already though all seated area in all grounds were no smoking areas

[nigel-harps1954]

That's true. Easily taken as no smoking in the ground though.
Doesn't bother me either way as a non-smoker

[dundalkfc10]

https://mobile.twitter.com/corkcityfcnews/status/704547013053030400

Didn't know where else to put this. Any other clubs do this? Personally I think it's great as I'm an asthmatic, but I'd imagine many will be unhappy.

They were not stopping our fans (well the 1 mini bus that was there) from smoking joints/fags/drinking cans on Saturday during the match so i doubt it will be too strict

[Jofspring]

Ya I always thought stands were no smoking areas. Anytime I've been to turners cross the lads smoking have gone up behind the stand for a smoke. They've done it at every ground actually.

[Lim till i die]

I smoked forty fags in the away stands at Galway and Sligo last year to be honest.

[citybone]

So no smoke bombs in the cross? ;-)

[brendy_éire]

Covered stands are non-smoking, enclosed on three sides should bring them under the workplace smoking ban. Though I know enforcement is pathy, at least in the Brandywell.
I steward at Celtic Park and it's strictly enforced there, and seems to be the same at Lansdowne too.

[dundalkfc10]

Covered stands are non-smoking, enclosed on three sides should bring them under the workplace smoking ban. Though I know enforcement is pathy, at least in the Brandywell.
I steward at Celtic Park and it's strictly enforced there, and seems to be the same at Lansdowne too.

Wasn't in the Dundalk end in November.

[Nesta99]

Certainly Pats are in the stand away section and fair play too!

[pateen]

Bit of a push on for Derry to be included as a Rugby WC venue, using Celtic Park. Derry county board open to the idea, and a mention was made of the football club using it this season. Motion to go before GAA Congress next week for opening up county grounds, and only county grounds, to other sports.
Perhaps this is the reason for the delay to announcing where we will be playing our final league fixtures?

Just had a look if this passed or not. Actually didnt see a motion about it anywhere at all

[brendy_éire]

Just had a look if this passed or not. Actually didnt see a motion about it anywhere at all

It didn't, not by a long shot.

Still waiting on word as to what we'll do.
Riverside would be the cheaper option, so.it would follow that that's where we'll be playing.

O/T, but that vote doesn't help the rugby WC bid at all. Only four non-GAA grounds are being included.

[nigel-harps1954]

It didn't, not by a long shot.

Still waiting on word as to what we'll do.
Riverside would be the cheaper option, so.it would follow that that's where we'll be playing.

O/T, but that vote doesn't help the rugby WC bid at all. Only four non-GAA grounds are being included.

Pretty sure the RWC bid isn't included and is a separate issue for the GAA.

[nigel-harps1954]

https://www.facebook.com/trevor.gordon/posts/10201347695611966

Some photos of upgrade work taking place at Finn Park over the last few weeks. Seats cleaned up and steps painted, away dressing room refurbished, referees room refurbished to include separate male and female shower and changing area, crush barrier placed on town end terrace, club shop got a new coat of paint, new security control room erected at the back of the stand, press box got a new coat of paint and the gantry also saw a bit of refurbishment to the flooring there. Pathway also created on the river end to allow away fans over to the away section on the gantry side of the ground with fencing at the bottom.

Still have emergency lighting to fix up around the ground and a couple of other bits and pieces to do, this all despite the club hoping to be in the new stadium in a year or two.

[ForzaHoop]

Shame they couldn't do something at the shop side to improve view from TV Gantry

[nigel-harps1954]

Unless they move the gantry, little can be done there.

[colonelwest]

Covered stands are non-smoking, enclosed on three sides should bring them under the workplace smoking ban. Though I know enforcement is pathy, at least in the Brandywell.
I steward at Celtic Park and it's strictly enforced there, and seems to be the same at Lansdowne too.

Up until last year it was enforced in Landsdowne as they'd no designated smoking area, past year or so though they've opened it out at half time with a couple of stewards at the bottom of the exit stairs on the east stand side anyway so people can nip outside for a smoke and get back in. LOI wise, I've never seen it enforced myself.

[redobit]

https://www.facebook.com/trevor.gordon/posts/10201347695611966

Some photos of upgrade work taking place at Finn Park over the last few weeks. Seats cleaned up and steps painted, away dressing room refurbished, referees room refurbished to include separate male and female shower and changing area, crush barrier placed on town end terrace, club shop got a new coat of paint, new security control room erected at the back of the stand, press box got a new coat of paint and the gantry also saw a bit of refurbishment to the flooring there. Pathway also created on the river end to allow away fans over to the away section on the gantry side of the ground with fencing at the bottom.

Still have emergency lighting to fix up around the ground and a couple of other bits and pieces to do, this all despite the club hoping to be in the new stadium in a year or two.

Looking at the photo ... have they put a crush barrier the full length of the terrace with no gaps in it. That will cause a crush at both ends if they did.

[Titan]

Looks like theres gaps every few yards

[ForzaHoop]

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[brendy_éire]

Pretty sure the RWC bid isn't included and is a separate issue for the GAA.

Aye, but it will still have to go through Congress. Croke Park might have been an easier sell, but counties voting to allow those dirty foreign games on their own sacred soil may be a different issue.
Mind you, as with the defeated free-to-air motion, money will sway them.

[nigel-harps1954]

Aye, but it will still have to go through Congress. Croke Park might have been an easier sell, but counties voting to allow those dirty foreign games on their own sacred soil may be a different issue.
Mind you, as with the defeated free-to-air motion, money will sway them.

Money will certainly be the big difference. The likes of Derry City playing a few games out of Celtic Park won't make much in the way of money for the GAA, but a handful of RWC games will potentially make millions for them. The GAA simply will not turn down that sort of money.

[toffeejay]

Money will certainly be the big difference. The likes of Derry City playing a few games out of Celtic Park won't make much in the way of money for the GAA, but a handful of RWC games will potentially make millions for them. The GAA simply will not turn down that sort of money.

I find it hilarious that they wouldn't want a football team based a couple of yards away from their ground playing a couple of domestic games but could potentially end up with God save the Queen being played in RWC match.

[masterk78]

Any work done at Ferrycarrig Park to get a premier division license?

[outspoken]

Any work done at Ferrycarrig Park to get a premier division license?

Didn't notice anything major to be honest I'm sure the Wexford lads can tell us better though

[ForzaForth]

New fence around the pitch and re-flooring of the stand were the major changes to Ferrycarrig Park. Completion of the media facilities and another set of toilets with wheelchair access are the next items on the list.

[ForzaForth]

Spotted a couple of developments in Ferrycarrig last night. A new permanent set of toilets is now going up at the dressing-room end. This would enable the existing blocks of toilets to be moved to the N11 end as they look moveable. They've also shifted the perimeter fence at the N11 end in about two yards nearer the pitch, which would suggest that new seating or terracing will be put in at that end.

[gufc2000]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdXnG0yW4AAbUcN.jpg:large

What are Cobh doing with this side of the ground?

[Comic Book Guy]

Replacing the boundary wall with metal fencing. As far as I know some of the wall became unstable due to previous works and so had to be replaced.

[oriel]

Latest from the Gerry Matthews (previous Dundalk owner) saga is, he is considering demolishing the Youth Dev Centre and salvaging it for scrap as its clear DFC have no interest in it. Still no progress on the lease and he has been alleging abusive phone calls being made to his house!

Without the lease Dundalk cannot proceed with any ground improvements.