Stadium Updates (All Clubs)

[Dermobohs]

Looks good , i understand going for the size they did with the ground to be redeveloped , but pity they could'nt have gone for maybe 800 capacity. Be good to see three sides of the stadium in use .

I wonder could Pats do something like that at the Shed End ? Would there be enough room ?
There would certainly be room, that one is only at the front of the Connaught terrace

[GUFCghost]

Yeah, if only the LFA had a ground to give us eh?

How many clubs are renting from local FAs?

It works for Cork City & Galway United, surprised it isn't suggested more often.

[Martinho II]

How many clubs are renting from local FAs?

It works for Cork City & Galway United, surprised it isn't suggested more often.

Think Drogheda Utd do same thing. Could be wrong though?

[oriel]

The FAI own Drogs ground. There is a clause in the deeds / arrangement that any sale must ensure a new ground is built elsewhere, which is what funded their mid / late 00's period on. 3 local Biz men tried to do a deal where the ground was sold, new ground built, the only winner was the team on the pitch.

At least they got their only senior trophies out of it, Cup win and League winners, decent team to be fair.

I`m very impressed with Bohs on these upgrades, 10/10 for this.

[David BOHie]

The FAI own Drogs ground. There is a clause in the deeds / arrangement that any sale must ensure a new ground is built elsewhere, which is what funded their mid / late 00's period on. 3 local Biz men tried to do a deal where the ground was sold, new ground built, the only winner was the team on the pitch.

At least they got their only senior trophies out of it, Cup win and League winners, decent team to be fair.

I`m very impressed with Bohs on these upgrades, 10/10 for this.

I felt Bohs hit their limit in old Dalymount. They'd be a 4th, 5th team. Now with 4,500 I think we can make the next step. Not saying we will this year but it's possible.

We need a new stadium and the redevelopment can't come soon enough but if they manged to stick a roof over the shed, a 4.5k fully covered 3 sided (well 2.5 sided) stadium wouldn't be the worst to wait in until the JCBs are ready to come in.

In new Dalymount we'll be competing for the league hopefully.

[GUFCghost]

I felt Bohs hit their limit in old Dalymount. They'd be a 4th, 5th team. Now with 4,500 I think we can make the next step. Not saying we will this year but it's possible.

We need a new stadium and the redevelopment can't come soon enough but if they manged to stick a roof over the shed, a 4.5k fully covered 3 sided (well 2.5 sided) stadium wouldn't be the worst to wait in until the JCBs are ready to come in.

In new Dalymount we'll be competing for the league hopefully.

Would it not be sensible for Bohs to keep their main stand and build two new ones?
What's with the need to nock it all down? Even if that old terrace is always be defunct, atleast it'd be a unique feature of the stadium

[Dermobohs]

That’s the preferred option, and indeed was voted on and approved and agreed with the council, but they changed the plan for about the fifth time.
Tbh the toilet facilities etc in the existing stand are beyond bad and inadequate though so really a new build, with all the ancillary features of a modern stadium, plus actually having fit for purpose dressing rooms and office space/ media centre etc., is preferable. Just wish they’d settle on a plan and build the fuc@&r

[David BOHie]

Yeah tbh I've lost track of what the latest Dalymount proposal is but unfortunately the Jodi is no longer state of the art and if we're redeveloping the rest of the ground I hope the Jodi gets a facelift too. There's poles obscuring the view, the seats are tiny, there's about 1/3 the amount of toilets there should be, the toilets are a disaster in some cases and not up to the standard you'd want, the offices are tiny. It's not the worst, it's probably one of the best main stands in the league and it's done us well for so long. There's not a ton wrong with it but as I said it's no longer state of the art.

[EatYerGreens]

That’s the preferred option, and indeed was voted on and approved and agreed with the council, but they changed the plan for about the fifth time.
Tbh the toilet facilities etc in the existing stand are beyond bad and inadequate though so really a new build, with all the ancillary features of a modern stadium, plus actually having fit for purpose dressing rooms and office space/ media centre etc., is preferable. Just wish they’d settle on a plan and build the fuc@&r

Isn't the Jodi about 20yrs old by now ?

[LOI101]

Isn't the Jodi about 20yrs old by now ?

1999 according to wiki

[D24Saint]

Yeah tbh I've lost track of what the latest Dalymount proposal is but unfortunately the Jodi is no longer state of the art and if we're redeveloping the rest of the ground I hope the Jodi gets a facelift too. There's poles obscuring the view, the seats are tiny, there's about 1/3 the amount of toilets there should be, the toilets are a disaster in some cases and not up to the standard you'd want, the offices are tiny. It's not the worst, it's probably one of the best main stands in the league and it's done us well for so long. There's not a ton wrong with it but as I said it's no longer state of the art.

Was the Jodi a refit of the previous stand or was it built from scratch ? Some parts look older than the 90’s.

[Dermobohs]

Built atop the old wooden stand

[Kingdom]

I love Dalymount. It's the reason I've been a Bohs 'fan' and have kept in the loop with the club since a schoolboy, which has grown more in the last decade.
Dalymount (even with the 'new' Jodi) still has the vibe of a ground throw-back to the old days of British style grounds, and as much as I love it, it's not fit for purpose. But the new Dalymount - it goes without saying - must be fit for purpose.

Understanding the Council's needs for community use as well, appreciating the difficulty in inter-agency collaboration at times too, I would have liked to see St Peter's school being integrated into the complex for their benefit and that of Bohs.

[Shinkicker]

I love Dalymount. It's the reason I've been a Bohs 'fan' and have kept in the loop with the club since a schoolboy, which has grown more in the last decade.
Dalymount (even with the 'new' Jodi) still has the vibe of a ground throw-back to the old days of British style grounds, and as much as I love it, it's not fit for purpose. But the new Dalymount - it goes without saying - must be fit for purpose.

Understanding the Council's needs for community use as well, appreciating the difficulty in inter-agency collaboration at times too, I would have liked to see St Peter's school being integrated into the complex for their benefit and that of Bohs.
Just saw a picture of the new Bohs temp away stand and I have to say it may be small but its impressive. Other clubs should look at this to increase attendances.

[NeverFeltBetter]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2023/0215/1356796-markets-field-stand-damaged-due-to-accidental-force/

Was there a suggestion the damage to the stand was malicious in nature?

[EatYerGreens]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2023/0215/1356796-markets-field-stand-damaged-due-to-accidental-force/

Was there a suggestion the damage to the stand was malicious in nature?

That seems a bizarre conclusion for the FAI to draw.

A stand is supposed to hold people and will have a safe limit for how many people it should contain. If the stand buckles in operation whilst containing the correct number of people, then surely that is evidence of a fundamental structural issue with it ? Unless the people were all morbidly obses sufficiently to render the safe capacity of the stand redundant.

This is essentially the FAI shruggling its shoulders and saying 'no-one to blame, nothing to see here'

[Martinho II]

That seems a bizarre conclusion for the FAI to draw.

A stand is supposed to hold people and will have a safe limit for how many people it should contain. If the stand buckles in operation whilst containing the correct number of people, then surely that is evidence of a fundamental structural issue with it ? Unless the people were all morbidly obses sufficiently to render the safe capacity of the stand redundant.

This is essentially the FAI shruggling its shoulders and saying 'no-one to blame, nothing to see here'

Bit like what is UEFA is doing at present in shrugging off the findings of the champions league final of last season from the delayed KO with the crowd problems with the Parc De Prince with unsafe access issues

[outspoken]

Bit like what is UEFA is doing at present in shrugging off the findings of the champions league final of last season from the delayed KO with the crowd problems with the Parc De Prince with unsafe access issues

Stade De France

[bohsmug]

One thing the new small stand does in Dalymount is give an indication of how the stadium can be developed in its current state. The Connaught side is massive. Can fit a couple of thousand over there and still have space for development of community facilities. Fitting something into the bit of land owned at the shopping centre end would be a challenge, although maybe not completely impossible. Especially if a bit of land was "borrowed" from the des kelly end. Could look lopsided though.

If offices and dressing rooms were taken out of the Jodi it would relieve some of the pressure on it, along with the Jackie Jameson bar. Until the thing is built it's hard to know what the redevelopment will be. The plans have changed a number of times.

[culloty82]

Sean O'Keeffe has told Kerry's Eye that there is still some development to be completed on the terraces, and when that is finished, the final Mounthawk capacity for the season will be 1,600 - that would certainly suffice for league games, particularly once the initial hype dies down, and in the event of a cup tie against a Premier club, then temporary seating could always be installed.

[legendz]

Sean O'Keeffe has told Kerry's Eye that there is still some development to be completed on the terraces, and when that is finished, the final Mounthawk capacity for the season will be 1,600 - that would certainly suffice for league games, particularly once the initial hype dies down, and in the event of a cup tie against a Premier club, then temporary seating could always be installed.
Any word on the number of season tickets sold?

[nr637]

Kerry FC, capacity upped to 1400 for opening game v Cobh Ramblers, strange as it was at something like 1150, maybe the Cobh away support is being welcomed in the traditional Kerry tourism way, where there is money to be made! ?

[culloty82]

Any word on the number of season tickets sold?

He said out of the 500 stand seats, 200 were season tickets, nothing about how many terrace season tickets were sold.

[culloty82]

Kerry FC, capacity upped to 1400 for opening game v Cobh Ramblers, strange as it was at something like 1150, maybe the Cobh away support is being welcomed in the traditional Kerry tourism way, where there is money to be made! ?

Just that, as Nigel said in the attendance thread, they were able to get some of the work that was already planned completed earlier than expected, so that bumped the final figure up a tad.

[Dermobohs]

Apparently Cobh not getting any away tickets from Kerry?
All sold to home fans?
Disappointing if true.

[culloty82]

Saw a Cobh fan saying that on another forum - definitely the Kerry board to blame, as the fans were just buying whatever was released, and there was no indication of an away section on the site website.

[joey B]

Maybe Cobh fans just bought home tickets??

[nigel-harps1954]

There'd always be teething problems, but not leaving aside tickets for away fans seems a pretty awful oversight.

[outspoken]

I thought after the whole Bohs rovers nonsense there was now a minimum percentage you had to give to away fans like 5 or 10 percent

[Stav]

Great night for them. First game in the League of Ireland. Huge day for them and the people who worked so hard over the years to get them there. Let them enjoy tonight and this can be sorted in the future.Enjoy and have a great season.

[ger121]

Apparently Cobh not getting any away tickets from Kerry?
All sold to home fans?
Disappointing if true.

Can they do that?

[sbgawa]

Can they do that?

The participation agreement has a minium % in it for away fans for sure.
Id say it was an oversight by Kerry or they just expected Cobh fans to buy tickets for the home areas and werent segregating.
I doub tmany Cobh fans travel but they will need to get organised when the bigger div 1 teams are visiting.

[Dermobohs]

Apparently 20-30 Cobh fans have a bus and all organised but the away tickets were sold before they got some.it’s poor form not to hold a few back really,as said earlier there is a certain percentage required, 10% I think, so Kerry may have actually incurred a fine before even playing in the league, impressive that.

[sbgawa]

Apparently 20-30 Cobh fans have a bus and all organised but the away tickets were sold before they got some.it’s poor form not to hold a few back really,as said earlier there is a certain percentage required, 10% I think, so Kerry may have actually incurred a fine before even playing in the league, impressive that.

Youd imagine they could accomadate them somewhere even at this stage.
Did Cobh request tickets i wonder? id imagine the minimum % would only be held back if tickets were requested.

[nr637]

Youd imagine they could accomadate them somewhere even at this stage.
Did Cobh request tickets i wonder? id imagine the minimum % would only be held back if tickets were requested.

Big crowd at Cobh Ramblers Clubhouse on Friday night, 2-300 hundred. The match was shown live on a big screen through LOITV, great atmosphere and well done to all involved.
Plenty of catering provided on the night to entice the big turnout.
The result was an added bonus!
:embarrassed:

[sbgawa]

Big crowd at Cobh Ramblers Clubhouse on Friday night, 2-300 hundred. The match was shown live on a big screen through LOITV, great atmosphere and well done to all involved.
Plenty of catering provided on the night to entice the big turnout.
The result was an added bonus!
:embarrassed:

Id say the LOITV are glad to hear that Cobh are facilitatig their fans not having to bother buying the LOITV passes ......

[pineapple stu]

UCD do the same for away games in the campus bar. I don't know is there a corporate rate (like the Sky Sports pub licences)? Maybe there should be.

[D24Saint]

UCD do the same for away games in the campus bar. I don't know is there a corporate rate (like the Sky Sports pub licences)? Maybe there should be.

Hopefully they don't go down that route. The LOI TV should be seen as promotional tool for the moment. I had the Sligo V Rovers match put on in the local the other night. Its better to have LOI on pub screens where possible , every bit of promotion the league can get the better.

[joey B]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/2023/02/17/dick-shakespeare-on-dalymount-not-tolka-if-you-build-it-they-will-come/

Dick Shakespeare on Dalymount and Tolka,not much good news in that article for Shels and Tolka Park anyway......

[EatYerGreens]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/2023/02/17/dick-shakespeare-on-dalymount-not-tolka-if-you-build-it-they-will-come/

Dick Shakespeare on Dalymount and Tolka,not much good news in that article for Shels and Tolka Park anyway......

That's pretty damn forthright.

Though his maths is crap. 8,000 packed to the rafters vs 15,000 a quarter full. So where did the other 4,250 fans go in the first versus the latter example ? Were they really all only interested in going because it was a packed stadium ? Nonsense talk.

[John83]

That's pretty damn forthright.
He's a plain speaker. They seem to have edited out all of the swearing though.

[Glen Of Aherlow]

On one hand i can see from Shels point of view , there's the history and the emotional attachment to Tolka , also it was going to be hard to maintain and grow support for the club if they moved to Phibsborough , on the other hand i just don't see any way there's going to be money for two stadiums that close together coming from the Govt or the County council , and it feels like in ten years time nothing much will still have happened with either.

[nigel-harps1954]

It's getting to the point where the council are effectively suggesting to Shels that they need to buy the ground themselves if they want Tolka, and with the figures quoted by Shakespeare, it won't come cheap.

[Longfordian]

I thought Shels had agreed a way forward with the council as a result of their new investors. Obviously not, aside from them not being forced to move to Dalymount.

[mcgonigle]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/2023/02/17/dick-shakespeare-on-dalymount-not-tolka-if-you-build-it-they-will-come/

Dick Shakespeare on Dalymount and Tolka,not much good news in that article for Shels and Tolka Park anyway......

There was never going to be. Shels have let their hearts rule their heads, which is understandable from a fans perspective. But nothing will be put into Tolka. My guess is that Shels end up in Dalymount down the road because Tolka is condemned and we all start talking about what could have been if they didn't pull out and the plans for Dalymount scaled back based on one tenant

[bohsmug]

If I was a Shels fan I'd be trying to avoid Dalymount too to be perfectly honest but not sure what their realistic solution is if the club don't want to (or can't) pay for it. They were tied to the Dalymount project for years. Shels fans don't own the club so even correct information can be hard to find. Didn't they secure foreign investment recently? Is anybody ever wary of their intentions? I'm not all that clued up on Shels.

[Glen Of Aherlow]

If I was a Shels fan I'd be trying to avoid Dalymount too to be perfectly honest but not sure what their realistic solution is if the club don't want to (or can't) pay for it. They were tied to the Dalymount project for years. Shels fans don't own the club so even correct information can be hard to find. Didn't they secure foreign investment recently? Is anybody ever wary of their intentions? I'm not all that clued up on Shels.

Has there ever been any foreign investment that’s been willing to put money into stadium development ?

[joey B]

The Shels investment fell through I believe.....

[bohsmug]

Has there ever been any foreign investment that’s been willing to put money into stadium development ?

Don't know, guessing not. My worry would more be a Kilcoyne type situation.

[Shinkicker]

https://youtu.be/CesXXFyDHSA
Found this today on YouTube.