Stadium Updates (All Clubs)

[Nesta99]

???

Anyway for our pitch to go down, my preference would be Celtic Park next to our ground, that would depend on GAA allowing us of course

Eh yeah! If the riverside is not made available by the IFA or without sanction then they are forcing a Derry move Donegal direction temporarily. By the time Celtic Park is made available after a motion is made and passed voting by GAA Ard Comhairle or whatever and also navigate all the other committees then objections and appeals are heard etc etc the Brandywell could be built in to a 40,000 all-seater at the rate of Finn Park. So if Derry have to move out of the Brandywell at any time during a season to facilitate any work they have to head west or get a positive reaction from 2 of the islands most entrenched and sectarian organisations to not be forced out of Derry City for fixtures.

[SeanDMRooney]

It was all confirmed there about 2 weeks ago that planning was accepted and funding was obtained. They have already started work

I know that they demolished the Glentoran Stand but have they actually started work on building anything ?

[Aaron]

I know that they demolished the Glentoran Stand but have they actually started work on building anything ?

No, they are starting by demolishing the perimeter wall, put fencing up around car park now. I'm not sure what the time scale of when rest will be started, all down to contractors now i'd assume

[punkrocket]

We'll just throw in the Derry City example, especially as they have some temporary moving to do soon. They'd never be expected to move out of the city by the IFA during renovations like. Dundalk to Newry - that may seem too much like a border moving north but you never know...

If there's only one Irish team at euro2016 they might start to feel magnanimous towards the poor wee Mexicans.
Perish the thought.

[Nesta99]

There is no doubt that if RoI dont qualify it will be used by the IFA as justification that NI is relevant and rightly so I suppose. It might stem the tide of players of players defecting south not that there has been a stand out ex-NI youth being a major loss to to them in relation to the quality they add or added to us. McClean maybe, Gibson's head is all over the shop in general. Danny Kearns hasnt shown much development from his early rating. NI must be one of the top ranked teams as per head of population so credit where credit is due. To actually bring success to a demanding club like Rovers and now NI, well I initially really underestimated O'Neills move to Dublin from Brechin - easily the 2nd best managerial appointment of recent times in LoI after Stephen Kenny of course! All off topic i know.....I see that insurance is covering the cost of replacing the bocht stand at Windsor Park. Watching recent highlights of Linfield v Crues it is looking like a super little ground. Something of that size we could use here for the likes of Cup Finals of 25k attendances; If demand for extra capacity is needed move to Landsdowne. Is there any timescale on Dalymount - thinking of a Champions League Play-off next season and wouldnt like to have to head to Tallaght (when is the third stand planned for there?).

[Philosophizer]

Is there any timescale on Dalymount - thinking of a Champions League Play-off next season and wouldnt like to have to head to Tallaght (when is the third stand planned for there?).

When the annopuncement was made about dalymount earlier this yr I remember the head of DCC said he wanted a redevelopment plan drafted by the end of this year. If that happens i'd expect redevelopment to begin some time next year.

[cob655]

Shamrock rvs hope to start work in 2016 and have the stand ready for use in 2017. I read it on some report the other day..

[D24Saint]

Shamrock rvs hope to start work in 2016 and have the stand ready for use in 2017. I read it on some report the other day..

dont you mean SDCC.

[ForzaHoop]

So any progress on any of the grounds or word on when work will start for Shamrock Rovers, Derry and Harps etc

[Kingswood Rover]

AFAIK OUR the new stand is to be constructed in 2017.

[SalvadorSanchez]

Who are we?

[forza]

AFAIK OUR the new stand is to be constructed in 2017.

Do you mean the council's new stand?

[ger121]

Do you mean the council's new stand?

Same as when Pat's fans say 'our club' and what they mean is Kelleher's club. Somebody else always owns it...

[Dalymountrower]

Deal on Dalymount signed off with DCC, Zurich paid, all other debts resolved
Shels to come on board.

[Mr A]

Great news for Bohs. Time to spend, spend, spend.

[Dalymountrower]

Back to having no money and no debts is an improbable outcome from where we have been over the last five years.

[Charlie Darwin]

Back to having no money and no debts is an improbable outcome from where we have been over the last five years.
Iceland?

[Philosophizer]

Deal on Dalymount signed off with DCC, Zurich paid, all other debts resolved
Shels to come on board.

Good news for Bohs.

I was hoping Shels would come on board eventually but last I heard their fans weren't happy about the possibility of a move. What's changed?
Any info on when they'll move? Will they wait for the redevelopment work to be completed on Dalyer? I remember hearing that they still had a lease on Tolka for another 50 yrs or something.

[Longfordian]

Wasn't the hold up with Shels the fact that DCC want Tolka and Shels have already sold their lease on it to a developer who wasn't prepared to give it to the Council at a knockdown price?

[Dodge]

DCC effectively wanted the lease on Tolka to be handed back to them for nothing

Shels are looking for some angle to relieve their debt

[Dalymountrower]

DCC effectively wanted the lease on Tolka to be handed back to them for nothing

Shels are looking for some angle to relieve their debt

Wouldn`t be confident that anyone knows exactly how many genuine and other creditors out there that Shels owe money to. The Tolka lease is the only card Shels have to play unless they fold and re-form a la Derry/ Rovers etc. Some of their less public creditors might not be as forgiving as Revenue though. Glad to see that they have opened up discussions with DCC again after the disastrous hardball negotiating stance they adopted earlier this year.

[Philosophizer]

Glad to see that they have opened up discussions with DCC again after the disastrous hardball negotiating stance they adopted earlier this year.

Haven't seen this reported anywhere. Have you heard something through the grapevine?

[manic da hoop]

The Tolka lease is the only card Shels have to play unless they fold and re-form a la Derry/ Rovers etc. .

Rovers never folded.

[Nesta99]

Always felt that Shels made things tough for themselves by not going in to examinership and negotiating a few cent in the Euro with their creditors like Rovers and others. Was it out of a sense of duty to creditors or did they think that they would eventually be bailed out? Ive forgotten the details of the lease on Tolka if it was ever clear cut. I was of the opinion that it had been sold off to developers so how can it be used as leverage? Unless there was a very sensible clause in the sale that the lease is only handed over when an alternative ground is provided by the developer. Besides being broke the way Tolka has been left to crumble would imply that they werent responsible for its upkeep at all. Their hopes to have debts dealt with via a move is understandable but you would think they would jump at a move to a modern newly built ground that wasnt going to cost them. Anybody able to shine some light on the background on the Tolka lease?

[punkrocket]

Good article although maybe not so relevant to what we live with in Ireland.
If the author or some of the posters fancy a bit of gritty romanticism I'm sure we can sort out a bit handily enough.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/nov/28/west-ham-upton-park-boleyn-ground-move-olympic-stadium

[Mr A]

More detail on Dalymount plans: http://www.thesun.ie/irishsol/homepage/sport/irishfootball/6777770/Dalymount-finally-gets-the-Boh-ahead.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-TWITTER-_-IrishSunSport-_-20151202-_-SunIESport-_-293324526-_-Imageandlink

[White Horse]

The pitch will be rotated? I didn't realise that was part of the plan. It will be a very different ground.

[Mr A]

I wondered about that. Wouldn't the Jodi then be too wide, or is it being demolished? Would love to see a plan for this.

[White Horse]

I wondered about that. Wouldn't the Jodi then be too wide, or is it being demolished? Would love to see a plan for this.

"Two smaller stands, each of which would hold between 500 and 700, would be built on the Connaught Street and North Circular Road sides".

That would mean the Jodi is to be demolished.

[Philosophizer]

More detail on Dalymount plans: http://www.thesun.ie/irishsol/homepage/sport/irishfootball/6777770/Dalymount-finally-gets-the-Boh-ahead.html?CMP=spklr-_-Editorial-_-TWITTER-_-IrishSunSport-_-20151202-_-SunIESport-_-293324526-_-Imageandlink

I guess this means the Jodi will be demolished. Pity. I had hoped they'd keep the Jodi and keep pitch in the same position as before (or possibly even bring it a bit tighter to the Jodi), and just rebuild the other 3 sides. Would have been nice to keep something of the history of the ground, but maybe it just wasn't feasible given the site.
Would be a pity if they turn it into a modern soulless soccerdome. Although the fact that they're keeping bars (plural) in the stands is a major positive!

[outspoken]

The pitch itself is terrible so maybe this suggests they want to focus on that as well as the ground. Not all bad as long as what's built to replace the Jodi is decent

[D24Saint]

Id be spetical about the preserving the home of Irish football line if they are preserving nothing about the place accept it's address roatating the pitch will leave very little continuity between the old Dalymount & the new.

[Philosophizer]

The pitch itself is terrible so maybe this suggests they want to focus on that as well as the ground. Not all bad as long as what's built to replace the Jodi is decent

Fair point. the pitch is in a bad state.

Yep, if it looks great at the end of the day all will be forgiven! I doubt it will happen, but i'd love some covered terrace at the ends rather than seating. A compact terrace (i'm not even talking about the mad expensive safe-standing ones) with a good roof is still thrilling and all too rare a sight nowadays. They still do it brilliantly elsewhere - look at FC United on Manchester's ground.
Anyway, even if the ends are seated, i'm sure the hardcore Bohs fans will fill one of those ends and make it their own and have it rocking at every game.

[White Horse]

Id be spetical about the preserving the home of Irish football line if they are preserving nothing about the place accept it's address roatating the pitch will leave very little continuity between the old Dalymount & the new.

Indeed. I wonder whether there would be greater benefit for Irish football if the funds were used to build a 10-15k seater stadium on a green field site.

[D24Saint]

Indeed. I wonder whether there would be greater benefit for Irish football if the funds were used to build a 10-15k seater stadium on a green field site.

The positive is it keeps Bohs in their historic location but if they are similar to ourselves then very little of the actual support come from that area anyway.

[Philosophizer]

The positive is it keeps Bohs in their historic location but if they are similar to ourselves then very little of the actual support come from that area anyway.

I thought a big chunk of the Bohs crowd comes from the Cabra/Phibs area, it at least seems that way to me as an outsider when I attend matches in Dalyer.
Don't a sizeable section of the Pats crowd hail from Inchicore and the surrounds??

[punkrocket]

Although the fact that they're keeping bars (plural) in the stands is a major positive!

The bars may be plural but it says only under one of the stands. It's one way of exerting crowd control I suppose, short of kettling. The boozers will self select. It doesn't say if the other stand will have one but it makes economic sense to have bars in each stand.
That headline though

[Philosophizer]

Indeed. I wonder whether there would be greater benefit for Irish football if the funds were used to build a 10-15k seater stadium on a green field site.

DCC bought it for 3.8 million, and will probably pour many more million into the redevelopment. I doubt they'd spend even a fraction of that amount on soccer infrastructure if it wasn't for the history of Dalymount. I think we've hit the bloody jackpot with DCC buying Dalyer and funding it's redevelopment.
If we lost Dalyer it would be tragic. Not just to Bohs (and potentially Shels) but to Irish soccer as a whole. Think of all those memories.... Johnny Giles, Brady, Don Given's hat trick against USSR, Pele even played there!! As part of the redevelopment I heard that they're also making a museum there to commemorate all those days.
And it's smack-bang in the middle of north city centre... perfect location for a stadium, and the LUAS track will run right past it in a few years making accessabiliy much better. There's a major redevelopment going to happen in Phibsborough over the next 10 yrs or so (new shopping centre, LUAS track, brand new campus for DIT etc) and Dalyer is going to be central to it. it's all positive as far as i'm concerned.

[Philosophizer]

The bars may be plural but it says only under one of the stands. It's one way of exerting crowd control I suppose, short of kettling. The boozers will self select. It doesn't say if the other stand will have one but it makes economic sense to have bars in each stand.
That headline though

Yea the headline is unreal! I'd guess that if Shels ever move in as co-tenants that they'd put a bar in the Tramway end stand

Although an agreement looks some way off, it is expected space under a new Tramway End stand would be set aside for their future use.

[toffeejay]

Just had a mess around print screening google map and flipping the pitch on GIMP.
Have to say the footprint looks pretty tight and that was even leaving less space behind the goal.

http://foot.ie/attachment.php?attachmentid=2362&stc=1

[Longfordian]

Serious business when you bring out the GIMP.

[colonelwest]

Serious business when you bring out the GIMP.

Indeed it is!

http://i.imgur.com/4f8VhhL.png

[Longfordian]

Your IP address is on record in Abbotstown now good luck with your Euros application :D

[colonelwest]

They know me well enough at this stage anyway!
:D

[gufcfan]

Your IP address is on record in Abbotstown now good luck with your Euros application :D

I'd say a number of posters here have appeared on printouts of forum threads slammed down on tables at FAI meetings. Not even joking.

[Longfordian]

I'd say a number of posters here have appeared on printouts of forum threads slammed down on tables at FAI meetings. Not even joking.

They definitely do ask the clubs who people on here are and how they know what they know.

[Mr A]

In some case they knew exactly who people on here were and raised it with club directors.

[sulywaterfordfc]

We've applied for a bar licence for the RSC

[nigel-harps1954]

We've applied for a bar licence for the RSC

FFS....

[sulywaterfordfc]

Two excellent stands in the RSC either side of the pitch both equipped with toilet facilities and a meeting room. The new stand has a gym under the stand. There are three full size training pitches at the back of the RSC. There's the second gate/turnstiles closer to super value mainly for access to the new stand, people can also use the main turnstiles to gain access to the new stand. Quite a big car park is also in place with a decent place to get hot food beside the main stand and a small shop at the back of the main stand. The club shop is also at the side of the main stand. And now we may potentially have a bar in the RSC under the main stand presumably. We've a top notch ground just a pity we've the track around the pitch. All we need now is a decent team and we're on the ball.