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Martinho II
26/07/2018, 6:14 PM
Don't Wexford at least have a proper base there with training pitches, astros, clubhouse etc? Longford is just a stadium plonked in the middle of the countryside as far as i remember, although it's been a long time since i was there so correct me if i'm wrong.
Maybe lissywollen/Glanmire/Roadstone/Sligo, and now Drogheda, template is the best way to go. Get a big space on the edge of your town/city and build a proper club base where your stadium and your whole academy can be based in the same hub.
in fairness to us its two and a half miles out of town and its in the country area. its actually shorter than from heuston station to connolly station!
EatYerGreens
26/07/2018, 6:37 PM
On another note, why does every press release from clubs regarding development of stadiums have to profusely thank John Delaney?
It's like the footage you see of the North Korean Supreme Leader, where everyone around him is clapping and cheering maniacally - as if their life depended on it.
John Delaney is Irish Football's Kim Il Quiff.
That’s three projects announced by the Fai which they won’t be putting a red cent into. Dalymount, the Mardyke development in Cork and now Drogheda . There has been no progress in the first 2 which were announced over 2 years ago.
Also on Bray Joeys take them over to ensure their underage teams have access to loi underage league.
EatYerGreens
26/07/2018, 7:09 PM
By the time its actually built (if ever) Drogheda is likely to have grown in size and population I'd imagine due to its proximity to Dublin. If they can make sure its well connected via public transport (local bus or tram or similar) then great. If it ends up being as isolated as Flancare or Lissywoolen then its a backwards step and will harm the clubs growth.
A tram in Drogheda :D
EatYerGreens
26/07/2018, 7:10 PM
That’s three projects announced by the Fai which they won’t be putting a red cent into. Dalymount, the Mardyke development in Cork and now Drogheda . There has been no progress in the first 2 which were announced over 2 years ago.
Has it been stated that the FAI won't be putting any cash into it ?
ToberonaTornado
26/07/2018, 7:41 PM
A tram in Drogheda :D
Meant Tramp i reckon ;)
The Fai dispense govt grant but they haven’t put money into any development in years,
El-Pietro
26/07/2018, 8:53 PM
A tram in Drogheda :D
I think its more likely than this stadium being built while any current loi player is still active. Include next years U13s as well.
Philosophizer
26/07/2018, 8:59 PM
That’s three projects announced by the Fai which they won’t be putting a red cent into. Dalymount, the Mardyke development in Cork and now Drogheda . There has been no progress in the first 2 which were announced over 2 years ago.
Dalymount and Tolka are completely owned by Dublin city council so the fai ob
Philosophizer
26/07/2018, 9:01 PM
... obviously aren't going to fund developments there.
@cork lads: Has there been any progress in Glanmire at all?
El-Pietro
26/07/2018, 9:28 PM
... obviously aren't going to fund developments there.
@cork lads: Has there been any progress in Glanmire at all?
We've been told we are waiting on an annoucement in the coming months for.... all year. There is a specific fund to be announced but I don't think there has been any news. Every month that passes my hope dies a little.
ToberonaTornado
26/07/2018, 9:39 PM
A tram in Drogheda :D
https://shortlist.imgix.net/app/uploads/2017/09/07165348/832a180937f284c4f453714355aeb1c8-827x551.jpg?w=1200&h=1&fit=max&auto=format%2Ccompress
Do the fai really think we are all fools
patrickccfc
27/07/2018, 6:04 AM
I quite like the away section at united park, can this be moved to the new stadium lol.
ger121
27/07/2018, 7:28 AM
Do the fai really think we are all fools
No.They just don’t care what we think.
sbgawa
27/07/2018, 7:59 AM
At the risk of saying something positive about the FAI. They have managed to get substantially debt free and co own a stadium that cost 400m to build. You'd have to hope with this particular monkey off their backs that more investment in the grass roots / league will be coming. It's still up to clubs to show they are worth investing in. Blaming the fai for everything is easy but they weren't responsible for bray or indeed bohs selling dalyer or rovers Miltown or the many clubs that have gone bust through the years due to bad admin.
If the fai don't start to deliver over the next few years when financially capable then let the revolution begin.
Kingdom
27/07/2018, 8:46 AM
At the risk of saying something positive about the FAI. They have managed to get substantially debt free and co own a stadium that cost 400m to build. You'd have to hope with this particular monkey off their backs that more investment in the grass roots / league will be coming. It's still up to clubs to show they are worth investing in. Blaming the fai for everything is easy but they weren't responsible for bray or indeed bohs selling dalyer or rovers Miltown or the many clubs that have gone bust through the years due to bad admin.
If the fai don't start to deliver over the next few years when financially capable then let the revolution begin.
The FAI don't co-own the Aviva. They and the IRFU are co-lease-holders, which ends in 2040 I think, it then reverts to IRFU ownership.
Edit apologies, it reverts in 2060.
dundalkfc10
27/07/2018, 10:02 AM
I quite like the away section at united park, can this be moved to the new stadium lol.
Cork fans actually go to away games?
White Horse
27/07/2018, 10:04 AM
Cork fans actually go to away games?
Don't bring up the war!
Can't we have a truce while both are in Europe.
RathfarnhamHoop
27/07/2018, 10:05 AM
Good to see Dundalk have finally stopped putting people on the pitch, hope thats permanent and not just for Europe, its the little things, the lick of paint on the main stand looks much better too
ToberonaTornado
27/07/2018, 10:09 AM
good to see dundalk have finally stopped putting people on the pitch, hope thats permanent and not just for europe, its the little things, the lick of paint on the main stand looks much better too
whaaa?
dundalkfc10
27/07/2018, 10:12 AM
Good to see Dundalk have finally stopped putting people on the pitch, hope thats permanent and not just for Europe, its the little things, the lick of paint on the main stand looks much better too
Pretty sure every game we play at home, people are on the pitch (including last night)
White Horse
27/07/2018, 10:14 AM
Good to see Dundalk have finally stopped putting people on the pitch, hope thats permanent and not just for Europe, its the little things, the lick of paint on the main stand looks much better too
Are you referring to the few disabled people who line up at the wall beside the home dug out?
Nesta99
27/07/2018, 10:17 AM
Do you mean standing at the wall? Just for Europe unfortunately. People are very attached to the spot they have stood in Oriel for 986 years - if a new all seater ground is ever built i guarantee some people will moan about having to move from their usual spot!!
RathfarnhamHoop
27/07/2018, 10:18 AM
Are you referring to the few disabled people who line up at the wall beside the home dug out?
Yeah, looked like they had a designated section on the terracing in front of the stand yesterday instead
ToberonaTornado
27/07/2018, 10:31 AM
Yeah, looked like they had a designated section on the terracing in front of the stand yesterday instead
well Then say that instead of throwing up some crazy ambiguous statement that took 3/4 goes to find out wtf you were talking about in the 1st place!!
Nesta99
27/07/2018, 10:37 AM
I think there is a platform installed in the section in front of the stand. It's usually a packed terrace for league games but with it out of action for Europe thats where the disabled support were accomodated as they couldnt be pitchside which is their preferred choice. It is disgraceful that there isnt a permanent for purpose designated area but just another item to add to the Oriel Park kip list!
redarmyfaction
27/07/2018, 10:38 AM
Don't Wexford at least have a proper base there with training pitches, astros, clubhouse etc? Longford is just a stadium plonked in the middle of the countryside as far as i remember, although it's been a long time since i was there so correct me if i'm wrong.
Maybe lissywollen/Glanmire/Roadstone/Sligo, and now Drogheda, template is the best way to go. Get a big space on the edge of your town/city and build a proper club base where your stadium and your whole academy can be based in the same hub.
The Showgrounds is only 10 minutes walk from bus train and town centre and while it may have been on the edge of Sligo in 1928 that is hardly true now, the reason it occupies such a large site is in the name and not to the foresight of the founders, however we can thank the visionaries who went door to door, week after week, in the 1960's collecting the funds to purchase the site for it's present owners The People of Sligo, for the facility that is there today.
RathfarnhamHoop
27/07/2018, 10:41 AM
well Then say that instead of throwing up some crazy ambiguous statement that took 3/4 goes to find out wtf you were talking about in the 1st place!!
Jesus lad doesn't take a genius to work out where you normally have fans on the pitch but didn't have any yesterday, no rocket science
dundalkfc10
27/07/2018, 11:50 AM
Jesus lad doesn't take a genius to work out where you normally have fans on the pitch but didn't have any yesterday, no rocket science
They have never been on the pitch for European games, not just last night!
Nesta99
27/07/2018, 12:28 PM
Jesus lad doesn't take a genius to work out where you normally have fans on the pitch but didn't have any yesterday, no rocket science
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True! Usually every time Rovers score their fans pile on to the pitch
RathfarnhamHoop
27/07/2018, 1:09 PM
They have never been on the pitch for European games, not just last night!
There hasn't been a platform over the terracing before thus my hope its a permanent move this time
EatYerGreens
27/07/2018, 1:11 PM
At the risk of saying something positive about the FAI. They have managed to get substantially debt free and co own a stadium that cost 400m to build. You'd have to hope with this particular monkey off their backs that more investment in the grass roots / league will be coming. It's still up to clubs to show they are worth investing in. Blaming the fai for everything is easy but they weren't responsible for bray or indeed bohs selling dalyer or rovers Miltown or the many clubs that have gone bust through the years due to bad admin.
If the fai don't start to deliver over the next few years when financially capable then let the revolution begin.
As mentioned above, the FAI don't own any part of Lansdowne Road. Juts a medium-term lease on it. For perspective - you'd find it almost impossible to get a mortgage for a house which had only 42yrs left on its lease.
As for the FAI being substantially debt-free - are they ? Last I heard they were behind on their repayment time-scale - blaming Thierry Henry for it. Have you figures you can provide on this ? Thanks.
jinxy lilywhite
27/07/2018, 1:31 PM
There hasn't been a platform over the terracing before thus my hope its a permanent move this time
It has certainly been a feature since we returned to European football in 2014. It may of been there when we played levski sofia in 2010 I cant remember.
Also disabled supporters were not on the pitch. being pitch side is a huge difference
RathfarnhamHoop
27/07/2018, 1:47 PM
It has certainly been a feature since we returned to European football in 2014. It may of been there when we played levski sofia in 2010 I cant remember.
Also disabled supporters were not on the pitch. being pitch side is a huge difference
Wow youre optimistic about a ground being improved and youre attacked, special breed you lot. Okay i hope it stays this time, better?
Not a huge difference, about a meter, that's not huge.
marinobohs
27/07/2018, 1:47 PM
As mentioned above, the FAI don't own any part of Lansdowne Road. Juts a medium-term lease on it. For perspective - you'd find it almost impossible to get a mortgage for a house which had only 42yrs left on its lease.
As for the FAI being substantially debt-free - are they ? Last I heard they were behind on their repayment time-scale - blaming Thierry Henry for it. Have you figures you can provide on this ? Thanks.
Delaney said yesterday they were 'on target' to remove the debt by 2020 but was very unclear about how this would be done (especially in the context of long term sponsorship deals). Yes, you are correct that the FAI only have a lease arrangement on the Aviva and it reverts in total to the IRFU after that. I don't think its anywhere near 42 years either !
disgruntled
27/07/2018, 1:49 PM
It's like the footage you see of the North Korean Supreme Leader, where everyone around him is clapping and cheering maniacally - as if their life depended on it.
John Delaney is Irish Football's Kim Il Quiff.
It does ;)
Do the fai really think we are all fools
That depends on what the FAI's definition of a fool is.
marinobohs
27/07/2018, 1:55 PM
... obviously aren't going to fund developments there.
@cork lads: Has there been any progress in Glanmire at all?
Correct but I think there was a commitment that the FAI would put in some money to the Dalymount development (probably Sports Council money) into Dalymount. Tolka is to be (eventually) used by Dublin City Council for housing so nobody is going to be developing that (it will be kept on life support to home both Bohs and shels while Dalymount is redeveloped).
dundalkfc10
27/07/2018, 2:44 PM
There hasn't been a platform over the terracing before thus my hope its a permanent move this time
there has been a platform on the terrace for disabled supporters for every away game we have played in Oriel since 2010 at least!
Your mascot does be pitch side every game!
White Horse
27/07/2018, 2:49 PM
Oriel Park has many problems.
A few disabled people watching the game from the sidelines is not one of them.
there has been a platform on the terrace for disabled supporters for every away game we have played in Oriel since 2010 at least!
Your mascot does be pitch side every game!
I think DFC10 means for every EURO game since 2010, and this would be correct, no standing allowed anywhere and section in front of the main stand closed off, the main area where fans stand has had a raised platform for wheelchair users and helpers, who usually go pitch side to the right of the home dugout as the camera faces.
It is as detailed above another of the long list of problems we have, not having this in place for ALL games so these regular supporters can enjoy the game in a little more comfort.
RathfarnhamHoop
27/07/2018, 5:43 PM
Oriel Park has many problems.
A few disabled people watching the game from the sidelines is not one of them.
Now that's just stupid, of course it's a problem, fans of your club are saying as much, and if you cant see why its a problem then i worry for you
White Horse
27/07/2018, 5:59 PM
Now that's just stupid, of course it's a problem, fans of your club are saying as much, and if you cant see why its a problem then i worry for you
Why is their presence on the sideline so offensive to you?
I know a couple of the people and they love being beside the dugout and getting to chat to the players and manager before and after the game.
RathfarnhamHoop
27/07/2018, 9:41 PM
Why is their presence on the sideline so offensive to you?
I know a couple of the people and they love being beside the dugout and getting to chat to the players and manager before and after the game.
It's not offensive its a number of things but not offensive but if you cant see why having people inside the pitch enclosure is a problem then I'm clearly just wasting my time, all the reasons are fairly obvious. You can be beside the dugout off the pitch too
Nesta99
28/07/2018, 12:33 PM
It's not offensive its a number of things but not offensive but if you cant see why having people inside the pitch enclosure is a problem then I'm clearly just wasting my time, all the reasons are fairly obvious. You can be beside the dugout off the pitch too
Humour us! What are the issues as you see them?
RathfarnhamHoop
28/07/2018, 1:09 PM
Humour us! What are the issues as you see them?
1. Zero cover from the elements.
2. Very awkward to access toilets and involves getting closer to the pitch.
3. Very real potential for collision with players which could cause injury to both parties.
4. Its against the FAI stadium infrastructure criteria
ToberonaTornado
28/07/2018, 3:54 PM
Why did you ask nesta.......................WHY??
nigel-harps1954
29/07/2018, 11:58 AM
Bit more news on the new Finn Park. The council will have an all-weather pitch beside the ground which Harps will have the use of for training and underage games.
http://www.highlandradio.com/2018/07/28/council-signs-off-on-plots-for-finn-valley-sports-facilities/
RathfarnhamHoop
01/08/2018, 1:05 PM
Anyone know why Athlone are putting the astro on their main pitch and not the back one? Isn't that why they moved out there? So they've space to have multiple pitches, so why put it on the main one when it'd make more sense to put it on the back one
athloneman
01/08/2018, 2:15 PM
Anyone know why Athlone are putting the astro on their main pitch and not the back one? Isn't that why they moved out there? So they've space to have multiple pitches, so why put it on the main one when it'd make more sense to put it on the back one
All the current board care about is money simple as that!
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