Stadium Updates (All Clubs) [Archive] - Page 136

Nesta99

07/08/2021, 5:32 PM

There is indeed but I dont think you could extend x 2 additional 1k seat wings. Brings issues like floodlight positioning, Lilywhite Lounge and general ground works in to play. If you got an additional 1200 seats and disabled safe areas it would be loads. The Main Stand is phase 1 of 3 though, considering it was built in the 60s we beat every other slow rate of project development in the country hands down even Harps!

Partizan

20/08/2021, 12:57 PM

Bohs have dismantled the Des Kelly Stand at Dayler.

https://www.sportsfile.com/more-images/775697641/#6

It's a sign that development has finally begun.

EatYerGreens

20/08/2021, 4:07 PM

Bohs have dismantled the Des Kelly Stand at Dayler.

https://www.sportsfile.com/more-images/775697641/#6

It's a sign that development has finally begun.

Wow ! So is the Dalyer development now officially under way ? I guarantee Bohs will rue the fact it's only 6,000 capacity.

CorribsideSteve

20/08/2021, 5:42 PM

How will they manage to stay there for a few more years while the Stadium gets built?

Bucket

20/08/2021, 6:12 PM

Moving into Tolka during the main construction phase

Philosophizer

20/08/2021, 9:04 PM

Wow ! So is the Dalyer development now officially under way ? I guarantee Bohs will rue the fact it's only 6,000 capacity.
It's only some prep work. The real rebuild work won't begin for a while yet I think.
I also think the 6K capacity is too small, but maybe they just agreed to it in order to get the ball rolling. Perfection is the enemy of the good.

Bucket

21/08/2021, 3:40 AM

It's a bittersweet development but great to see work starting. Six thousand is plenty for any LOI team based near Lansdowne Road.
If Utd ever make it into Europe again we would probably have to go to Limerick for a home match. Terryland's on a b�ithr�n, with only one entry into it, so it might go against UEFA regulations for segregating away supporters. Lovely ground inside though.

Nesta99

22/08/2021, 9:58 AM

It's only some prep work. The real rebuild work won't begin for a while yet I think.
I also think the 6K capacity is too small, but maybe they just agreed to it in order to get the ball rolling. Perfection is the enemy of the good.

Strange timing if its only non essential prep work and then the project to stop. There are plenty of other areas that prep work could start that wouldnt risk reducing capacity at all. Maybe there were some concerns over the roof, take it down and ye can still keep that area open for away fans for now.

Philosophizer

22/08/2021, 10:29 AM

EatYerGreens

22/08/2021, 12:37 PM

It's only some prep work. The real rebuild work won't begin for a while yet I think.
I also think the 6K capacity is too small, but maybe they just agreed to it in order to get the ball rolling. Perfection is the enemy of the good.

I'd take your point if the new stadium design enabled expansion. But it is literally the least expandable format - with curved roofs and stands. You can't build on top of or expand a curve.

Nesta99

23/08/2021, 1:03 PM

Details on extra time.ie
https://www.extratime.com/amp/articles/27692/dalymount-redevelopment-to-begin-this-month-demolition-of-roof-of-des-kelly-stand/

Des Kelly roof to be taken down and Connaught street stand to be removed next, pending some demolition permission from council.

The part that jumps out in that article is 'they have begun work on the preliminary design stage' and that the consultation process has yet to happen. Even if there isnt any objections (is there a GAA club in the area that will covet a slice of the pie...) that would suggest that finalising plans and goring through the planning application et al, it will be 12-18 months before the actual development build starts. If that takes 6-8 months depending on the type of construction used , we are still a good bit away. Makes taking cover from a spectator area still a bit premature i think when there are so many other areas to work on - unless the 900k grant was partly for this and needed to be used.

The upside is that nothing is set in stone on capacity or design and the can be tweaked eg to allow for future expansion.

Bucket

23/08/2021, 2:29 PM

Are they selling any signage or seats from the DK Stand?

sbgawa

23/08/2021, 5:34 PM

The part that jumps out in that article is 'they have begun work on the preliminary design stage' and that the consultation process has yet to happen. Even if there isnt any objections (is there a GAA club in the area that will covet a slice of the pie...) that would suggest that finalising plans and goring through the planning application et al, it will be 12-18 months before the actual development build starts. If that takes 6-8 months depending on the type of construction used , we are still a good bit away. Makes taking cover from a spectator area still a bit premature i think when there are so many other areas to work on - unless the 900k grant was partly for this and needed to be used.

The upside is that nothing is set in stone on capacity or design and the can be tweaked eg to allow for future expansion.

On a positive note we will be able to give out about the lack of cover for away fans in dalymount from now on :)

nigel-harps1954

23/08/2021, 6:37 PM

Are they selling any signage or seats from the DK Stand?

Seats are staying I think, presume someone from Bohs could correct me on this, but it's just the roof of the stand they took away, mostly because it became a bit of a death trap..

sidcon

23/08/2021, 7:45 PM

Yep, just the roof take away. Next stage is connaught side been demolished. Basically just make the ground less of an insurance risk

Finlay Harp

23/08/2021, 8:21 PM

Having been in the Des Kelly in the last couple of years, that structure served no real purpose bar a bit of cover. Taking it down reduces the risk as it looked unstable in places (bit like the shed in FP 😀)

Bucket

23/08/2021, 8:27 PM

Thanks for that. I'd like to buy a couple of turnstiles, crush barriers, seats, etc. from different grounds for the ultimate man-cave that I have planned!

D24Saint

23/08/2021, 10:47 PM

It will be a sad day when the floodlights eventually go. They are only second to the poolbeg towers as an iconic part of the Dublin skyline.

Philosophizer

24/08/2021, 9:22 AM

It will be a sad day when the floodlights eventually go. They are only second to the poolbeg towers as an iconic part of the Dublin skyline.

The poolbeg chimneys being seen as "iconic" only highlights how dismally low our city's skyline actually is. If we had a proper skyline (see what Oslo did with their docks) nobody would give a toss about them and rightly so. They're a pair of disused industrial chimneys from the 1970s. They've no architectural or historical merit. They're not even unique to Dublin. Loads of cities across the west have them, and may have wisely demolished them already

The Dalyer floodlights are more deserving of protected status than the those chimney stacks.

pineapple stu

24/08/2021, 9:58 AM

I think what makes them a bit unique is how visible they are from so many places in the city (partly because we don't have a skyline as such)

They're maybe better known than you think too. I was on a tour to Chernobyl a couple of years back and the tour guide asked us why we were interested in going. I said one factor for me was that my first job was in Poolbeg and so I had some bit of power station knowledge. The tour guide recognised the chimneys when I showed them to him.

The Dalyer floodlights also aren't unique and many cities have demolished their equivalent already - though I think that's wrong as old-fashioned floodlights are a great landmark.

EatYerGreens

24/08/2021, 10:55 AM

The poolbeg chimneys being seen as "iconic" only highlights how dismally low our city's skyline actually is. If we had a proper skyline (see what Oslo did with their docks) nobody would give a toss about them and rightly so. They're a pair of disused industrial chimneys from the 1970s. They've no architectural or historical merit. They're not even unique to Dublin. Loads of cities across the west have them, and may have wisely demolished them already

The Dalyer floodlights are more deserving of protected status than the those chimney stacks.

Yeah - the low-rise nature of Dublin is weird for a city its size, and will have to change to tackle both climate change and the lack of housing.

Philosophizer

24/08/2021, 12:32 PM

Yeah - the low-rise nature of Dublin is weird for a city its size, and will have to change to tackle both climate change and the lack of housing.

Unfortunately most of the land in Dublin is underutilized with 1-2 storey buildings stretching out as far as Wicklow Kildare and Meath. Hopefully any remaining sites can be put to better use with tall, dense buildings to ease the crisis.

Anyway I've dragged this thread well off topic, so I'll wrap it up now.

Dalymountrower

24/08/2021, 1:40 PM

Yeah - the low-rise nature of Dublin is weird for a city its size, and will have to change to tackle both climate change and the lack of housing.

It is unique, in a good way. Joyce and Becket would still easily find their way around between the canals.
Tall buildings out in City West, Adamstown with rail into the city would make sense, maybe Blanchardstown. Anyway, leave the tall buildings to Cork, satisfies their edifice complex.

ForzaForth

20/09/2021, 12:38 PM

At long last, the damaged roof on the stand in Ferrycarrig is being replaced with new material in a very tasteful vivid purple! The roof now looks like it will bear the logo of local company, All in One Event Hire.

Martinho II

20/09/2021, 7:57 PM

Kingdom

23/09/2021, 8:25 AM

The poolbeg chimneys being seen as "iconic" only highlights how dismally low our city's skyline actually is. If we had a proper skyline (see what Oslo did with their docks) nobody would give a toss about them and rightly so. They're a pair of disused industrial chimneys from the 1970s. They've no architectural or historical merit. They're not even unique to Dublin. Loads of cities across the west have them, and may have wisely demolished them already

The Dalyer floodlights are more deserving of protected status than the those chimney stacks.

I'd say they are iconic for a lot of people who would come back to Ireland once every couple of years through Dublin Port. As you say, plenty of cities in Europe have them, but very few capital cities sit right on the edge of the coast, and have such chimneys as part of the pier. That walk from the chimneys to Poolbeg Tower would have a lot of happy memories for some Dublin people.

EatYerGreens

23/09/2021, 1:23 PM

People have a weird fetish about large chimneys. There's an Ikea in Croydon, south of London, that was built on the site of an old power station. For some reason its chimneys - and only its chimneys - were made protected structures. Even though the site is in a hollow, so you can't see the chimneys from any distance.

So that Ikea now has two large random chimneys on their own on its site, with a ring of Ikea's colours added on top (so much for being protected structures !).

2 Year Contract

01/10/2021, 10:54 PM

Hadn’t been up in Drogheda since Pats last played there in 2017 (in a non behind closed doors game) and noticed a new feature to the ground. On the positive side, the 10 foot tall spiked fencing surrounding what looked like a generator behind the home dugout must make it the errr best protected generator in the league. On the downside, from pretty much anywhere in the away end aside from up against the rail at the very front, it’s almost impossible to see maybe 15-20% of the pitch in the corner closest to the changing rooms. Not sure if that’s been mentioned on here before but it’s pretty bizarre stuff throwing such a big fence there

Nesta99

03/10/2021, 12:38 PM

Is there the remotest possibility that the Dept of Sport might actually be able to fully fund capital projects with this NDP, if at last there is medium term planning rather than the short term buy votes to get reelected tendency. Part of the plan still includes the spatial strategy of old so a glimmer of a chance that purse strings could be loosened for regional projects. That said if you are not in ye cant win and after looking through all applications for 2021 SCEP only 9 clubs bothered putting in an application (not even for a lawnmower) and only 3 of those were granted. Some creative thinking on environmental progress could reap rewards, at minimum every club that havent yet replaced or retrofitted floodlights to LCD and the like would have a strong application. Has any club used Clann Creda financing does anyone know just out of interest?

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2021/1003/1250453-national-development-plan/

D24Saint

08/10/2021, 9:14 AM

https://www.echo.ie/work-on-fourth-stand-for-stadium-to-start-in-spring/

It will be a fine ground when the work is finished.

Nesta99

08/10/2021, 9:58 AM

Until the corners are built it will never be finished, a cold drafty ground a bit like the Croke Park effort with that open and uncovered terrace. It too would be a fine ground if ever finished!

With no response to my last post here, can I ask again then if people have even heard of Clan Creda on any level? Just a personal interest mini survey thing with a quick yes or no?

Martinho II

08/10/2021, 5:15 PM

sbgawa

08/10/2021, 8:34 PM

never heard of him/it/her/them.

Nesta99

09/10/2021, 11:28 AM

www.clanncredo.ie (apologies for misspelling the name prior).

Was wondering why this is so poorly known about considering the FAI have pushed it (maybe that is why). Not huge amounts available but €500k does get over the hump of funding to draw down grants for example or get a project moving between rounds of grant offerings and not at off the wall rates. So where's the catch - typical Irish thinking lol, or why is there not a better awareness/profile of this provision?

John83

09/10/2021, 12:35 PM

I'd guess not that many people here are the types actually making decisions about cashflow and capital grants, so it's just not in our field of view.

Nesta99

09/10/2021, 1:28 PM

Are you suggesting that there are actually some people here who dont know everything?? :D Naw I just find it strange that it has never has cropped up ever afaik especially at times when people fretted about raising whatever % of a grant to draw it down. It's a failing by this lender that it isnt better known especially for entirely volunteer run clubs/projects where there isnt the expertse that there may be for a larger LoI club and projects though I say that last bit partially through gritted teeth!

pateen

02/11/2021, 1:29 PM

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/1018/1005127-finn-harps-stadium-work-to-restart-in-12m-project/

A three year old article.
Was anything done in that space of time?

Martinho II

02/11/2021, 7:22 PM

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/1018/1005127-finn-harps-stadium-work-to-restart-in-12m-project/

A three year old article.
Was anything done in that space of time?

I havent heard a peep out of harps since then. Im sure nigel would give us an answer quick as I havent being in ballybofey in an awful long time!

nigel-harps1954

02/11/2021, 8:49 PM

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/1018/1005127-finn-harps-stadium-work-to-restart-in-12m-project/

A three year old article.
Was anything done in that space of time?

Short answer. No.

Long answer. Yes.

But we'll stick with the short answer, as nothing has been done on site.

pateen

03/11/2021, 11:54 AM

Cheers Nigel

Bucket

13/11/2021, 2:36 PM

D24Saint

13/11/2021, 2:41 PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/paulohehir/status/1459533320593850381

New build category 4 stadium in Luxembourg, 9,350 capacity at a cost of �80m. A ground like this should be the aspiration of the top LOI clubs.

Looks a bit like what we tried to build on top of a shopping centre. It was a bit forward thinking for the corpo who will just shove a load of kips back into St Michaels estate.

Bucket

13/11/2021, 3:19 PM

Have the council started building on that site yet? Is the stadium project completely dead?

D24Saint

13/11/2021, 4:04 PM

Have the council started building on that site yet? Is the stadium project completely dead?

There was some dispute between a local FG TD and the government over the amount of housing they want to put on the site. There has been nothing done with it yet. The stadium dream for St Michaels Estate is definitely dead now. We are looking at other options but nothing official yet. We have to do something as Richmond will or has become obsolete in its current guise. We need better facilities for the future of the club.

D24Saint

08/02/2022, 8:39 PM

https://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/sligo-rovers-vow-to-put-transfer-money-into-masterplan-for-the-future-41327382.html

Not a bad ground as it is.

Longfordian

09/02/2022, 7:29 AM

You really can't but admire Sligo for the way they're run and the way the local community gets behind them every year. Very impressive.

SPXcyan

09/02/2022, 4:24 PM

A true model club, hopefully it'll all come together just as smoothly.

oldfan

18/02/2022, 4:46 PM

Reports of Shelbourne wanting to buy Tolka back off the Dublin Corpo?
Any substance or is it a bit of window dressing?

Longfordian

18/02/2022, 4:49 PM

Seems to have some credibility. Shels have money these days so they're obviously prepared to spend some on keeping Tolka. If they can get it back up to a decent standard then best of luck to them.