Stadium Updates (All Clubs)

[jinxy lilywhite]

So let me get this right. Bohs and shels get a new ground, no debt and almost rewarded for their financial mismanagements and poor leadership ala Rovers

[Longfordian]

So let me get this right. Bohs and shels get a new ground, no debt and almost rewarded for their financial mismanagements and poor leadership ala Rovers

Wouldn't be surprised if the FAI and/or the Council end up owning the new Dalymount and renting it to Bohs and Shels.

[Dalymountrower]

So let me get this right. Bohs and shels get a new ground, no debt and almost rewarded for their financial mismanagements and poor leadership ala Rovers
Well we have continued to service our debts as is reasonably within our means.We dont have the luxury of welshing on our debts by re-formimg under some other corporate structure.
Oh and err all hail JD our glorious leader.

[PartySaint]

You'd think after Gareth Kelleher helped the FAI pay off some of their debts they would have given us the free stadium.

[White Horse]

Dalymount is the "soul of Irish football".

It would annoy me if Bohs and Shels benefited from their attempt to destroy LOI football over the last twenty years. However, I would stomach it, if it meant Dalymount was saved and restored to being a stadium fit for it's legacy.

[El-Pietro]

Dalymount is the "soul of Irish football".

It would annoy me if Bohs and Shels benefited from their attempt to destroy LOI football over the last twenty years. However, I would stomach it, if it meant Dalymount was saved and restored to being a stadium fit for it's legacy.

I'd agree 100% with this. I know we're all partisan football fans, and we don't want any of our competitors getting an edge, but Dayler needs to be saved, and it needs to be restored. It should be the premier League of Ireland stadium in this country.

[Nesta99]

For one moment I have to say El-P i thought there was going to be a grumble by a Cork fan re the redevelopment of an(other) Dublin club's ground. But fair play the sentiment that Dalymount holds does actually reach Leeside...now if only the Leinster FA or somone recognised Oriel and it's history and chipped in with a few quid ;)

[nigel-harps1954]

Would love to see Dalymount done up. Properly fixed up, it has the potential to host international friendlies once more. Farcical games like Oman would be much better served in front of a packed out 10,000 capacity Dalyer than an empty Aviva. Couple of million quid could make it into a superb ground once more.

[punkrocket]

I won't believe it's happening until I see the plans.

[gufcfan]

I won't believe it's happening until I see the plans.

Plans? Along with planning permission, they have been used to fudge licences for some clubs for years.

[ger121]

Could be time to dust off the 'Big Club' banner again:messed:

[outspoken]

Don't think its right that 2 clubs should benefit and the rest of the clubs get nothing. How about spreading out the money and giving each club something for stadium development instead?

[Charlie Darwin]

How about spreading out the money and giving each club something for stadium development instead?
Do you need to wait for an answer to that?

We don't know how this will pan out or whether Shels will even be involved, whether the FAI will take equity and what contribution, if any, the clubs would make it. You can't really judge whether it's right or wrong when we haven't been told any details yet.

[citybone]

Do you need to wait for an answer to that?

We don't know how this will pan out or whether Shels will even be involved, whether the FAI will take equity and what contribution, if any, the clubs would make it. You can't really judge whether it's right or wrong when we haven't been told any details yet.

If the FAI are paying off the debt then i hope they take a majority stake in Dalymount. The FAI/MFA ownership of Turners Cross has been very beneficial for Cork City in the long run. FAI could help make the pitch playable, improve facilities (mostly for away fans) and held League Cup final, U21 games there.

[brendy_éire]

The Brandywell's planning application is online now (http://epicpublic.planningni.gov.uk/PublicAccess/zd/zdApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=NBS7JHSV30000).

And for all those budding architects, here's the detailed drawings (http://epicdocs.planningni.gov.uk/ShowCaseFile.aspx?appNumber=A/2014/0457/F).

[Paddyfield]

Dalymount to get done up and Shels to move in?

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/european-championships/dalymount-in-line-to-benefit-from-euro-2020-bid-joy-30601603.html

It should be rebranded as Delaneymont Park.

[gufc2000]

The Brandywell's planning application is online now (http://epicpublic.planningni.gov.uk/PublicAccess/zd/zdApplication/application_detailview.aspx?caseno=NBS7JHSV30000).

And for all those budding architects, here's the detailed drawings (http://epicdocs.planningni.gov.uk/ShowCaseFile.aspx?appNumber=A/2014/0457/F).
When is all this schedule to take place? The rumours of the Brandywell redevelopment seem to be going around for ages, hope it finally comes to fruition

[A N Mouse]

When is all this schedule to take place? The rumours of the Brandywell redevelopment seem to be going around for ages, hope it finally comes to fruition

Previously the announcements seemed to be about securing funding, reminding people that we were still there - wether or not a plan was attached.

This time some funding has been secured and the planning process has begun - there a figure in one of the documents probably should have been redacted, showing that getting this far is not an inconsiderable cost.

Others more au fait with the system would be better able to comment on the process. But my understanding is that's it out to public consultation, and a decision should now be expected before christmas (maybe even this christmas). After that it's anyone guess, but it's council and they have money, they'll want to break ground asap.

[Flexy]

Previously the announcements seemed to be about securing funding, reminding people that we were still there - wether or not a plan was attached.

This time some funding has been secured and the planning process has begun - there a figure in one of the documents probably should have been redacted, showing that getting this far is not an inconsiderable cost.

Others more au fait with the system would be better able to comment on the process. But my understanding is that's it out to public consultation, and a decision should now be expected before christmas (maybe even this christmas). After that it's anyone guess, but it's council and they have money, they'll want to break ground asap.
There is 3 phases to the plan. DCfC and DCC have only got the funding for phase 1 only. That consists of moving the greyhound track to the showgrounds making health and safety improvements to Southend Pk stand and to build a 947 seater stand with changing rooms bar and hospitality facilities plus a 3 or 4G pitch. Phase 2 still needs funding and approval ( that wont happen in my lifetime )

[NeverFeltBetter]

Limerick's chairman is confident the Market's Field will be ready for PD football in six months: http://www.limerickpost.ie/2014/10/01/limerick-chairman-hopes-for-markets-field-move-before-march/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[ger121]

Limerick's chairman is confident the Market's Field will be ready for PD football in six months: http://www.limerickpost.ie/2014/10/01/limerick-chairman-hopes-for-markets-field-move-before-march/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Fingers crossed, it all goes ahead as hoped for.

[oriel]

Limerick's chairman is confident the Market's Field will be ready for PD football in six months: http://www.limerickpost.ie/2014/10/01/limerick-chairman-hopes-for-markets-field-move-before-march/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

I think I asked before but is the MF the best located ground in the city? It doesn't matter where Thomand is as that will never suit the football club.

[bluewhitearmy]

I think I asked before but is the MF the best located ground in the city? It doesn't matter where Thomand is as that will never suit the football club.

Not as close to train and bus station as Jackman Obviously but its only about a 10 minute walk from Jackman. About 15 minute walk from the middle of town id say.

[pateen]

Has work restarted on the markets field yet. Seems like there is an awful lot to do before it's ready for PD games

[atfconline]

Pics on Twitter today.

https://twitter.com/SoccRepublic/status/517674539527204865

[Lim till i die]

Hogan Park is a better option on more or less every level at the moment.

Let the LEDP have their crappy little schools rugby ground, they could be gettin lucky, with the way the wind is blowing they'll be able to rent it to Munster rugby for their cider shield games.

[NeverFeltBetter]

Hogan Park? Seriously?

We put up with Jackman. The Market's Field can't be worse.

[Lim till i die]

Things Hogan Park has this minute that the markets field doesn't:

New dressing rooms.
Space for three temporary stands.
Floodlights.
A Football pitch.
A complete lack of clueless quango fodder like the boys over the markets field "stadium".

This minute if you're leaving Thomond it's an absolute no contest. Hogan Park wins hands down.

[Paddyfield]

I think that I've been to all of the grounds used by Limerick City, Limerick United, Limerick 37 and Limerick FC. (except Thomond)

Is Hogan Park the same as Rathbane?

[Acornvilla]

Funnily enough, just before Delaney's comments about the Dalymount revamp, I'd been making plans to visit both Tolka and Dayler to do a photo shoot.
They're in worse nick than I expected, but great places to ponder about in.

Just finished sifting through my Tolka photos if anyone would like a look.

https://m1.behance.net/rendition/modules/136183953/disp/0da134f2d6ff584879babe7169ebfd72.jpg

https://www.behance.net/gallery/20221985/Shelbourne-FC-Tolka-Park

[Lim till i die]

I think that I've been to all of the grounds used by Limerick City, Limerick United, Limerick 37 and Limerick FC. (except Thomond)

Is Hogan Park the same as Rathbane?

Thats the one.

[NeverFeltBetter]

Things Hogan Park has this minute that the markets field doesn't:

New dressing rooms.
Space for three temporary stands.
Floodlights.
A Football pitch.
A complete lack of clueless quango fodder like the boys over the markets field "stadium".

This minute if you're leaving Thomond it's an absolute no contest. Hogan Park wins hands down.

Good thing the club isn't leaving Thomond this minute then.

[Lim till i die]

I await the flood of activity in the markets field with baited breath.

Twelve months and they haven't managed to pile one brick on top of another one.

[Charlie Darwin]

I await the flood of activity in the markets field with baited breath.

Twelve months and they haven't managed to pile one brick on top of another one.
That's modern architecture for you.

[bennocelt]

Funnily enough, just before Delaney's comments about the Dalymount revamp, I'd been making plans to visit both Tolka and Dayler to do a photo shoot.
They're in worse nick than I expected, but great places to ponder about in.

Just finished sifting through my Tolka photos if anyone would like a look.

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Least it has a bar!

[SPXcyan]

Jayziz those Tolka Park photos resembles something out of Chernobyl it's that bad!

[punkrocket]

The discarded Tolka seats look in better nick than the ones you have to pay to sit in.

[seand]

Funnily enough, just before Delaney's comments about the Dalymount revamp, I'd been making plans to visit both Tolka and Dayler to do a photo shoot.
They're in worse nick than I expected, but great places to ponder about in.

Just finished sifting through my Tolka photos if anyone would like a look.

https://m1.behance.net/rendition/modules/136183953/disp/0da134f2d6ff584879babe7169ebfd72.jpg

https://www.behance.net/gallery/20221985/Shelbourne-FC-Tolka-Park

There's some really great photos in there, thanks. You've captured just how grim and run down Tolka is these days. It was a bit grotty 10-15 years ago, but it really is a sad reflection of the state of Shels and the league in general now.

[nigel-harps1954]

Tolka Park is in an absolutely awful state. But the worst thing about it is, two days work in it with a few yard-brushes, a skip, paint brushes, and a bit of paint, and you could make it look a whole lot better.

[Acornvilla]

Tolka Park is in an absolutely awful state. But the worst thing about it is, two days work in it with a few yard-brushes, a skip, paint brushes, and a bit of paint, and you could make it look a whole lot better.
I got chatting to a few of their staff/volunteers in the ground, they have the same problems probably every club does, very little volunteers willing to do this stuff, and of course very little money set aside to do it. Very nice guys thou, I really enjoyed being there, and going through the hallways under the stand with dressing rooms etc. Full of photos showing past glorys, cutouts of articles after Ollies death and the like.

[nigel-harps1954]

Sad really, so many people in the area and nobody willing to lend a hand. Maybe the club could put out an appeal some Saturday afternoon to round up a group of volunteers to do a bit of work on the ground, take them all into the club bar for a pint and a few sandwiches afterwards. I'm sure there'd be plenty of fans willing to help out to create a much friendlier match day atmosphere.

[colonelwest]

Funnily enough, just before Delaney's comments about the Dalymount revamp, I'd been making plans to visit both Tolka and Dayler to do a photo shoot.
They're in worse nick than I expected, but great places to ponder about in.

Just finished sifting through my Tolka photos if anyone would like a look.



https://www.behance.net/gallery/20221985/Shelbourne-FC-Tolka-Park


Sad to see. I found this site with pictures from 2006, the difference 8 years of barely a penny spent in upkeep makes for grim viewing (no slight on Shels/ their supporters/ volunteers and the work they do and time they put in)

http://www.stadionwelt.de/sw_stadien/index.php?stadion=&folder=sites&site=fotos&id=4744&page=4

http://www.stadionwelt.de/sw_stadien/fotos/stadionlisten/irland/tolka_park/100.jpg


http://www.stadionwelt.de/sw_stadien/fotos/stadionlisten/irland/tolka_park/120.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/sw_stadien/fotos/stadionlisten/irland/tolka_park/130.jpg

[bennocelt]

Sad really, so many people in the area and nobody willing to lend a hand. Maybe the club could put out an appeal some Saturday afternoon to round up a group of volunteers to do a bit of work on the ground, take them all into the club bar for a pint and a few sandwiches afterwards. I'm sure there'd be plenty of fans willing to help out to create a much friendlier match day atmosphere.

But wasnt there a lot of friction with fans and the board for a long time?

[wonder88]

Was in Tolka last night for the Galway match. Very friendly people there, and saw a great goal by Dylan Connolly. Also the pitch was in good condition after a days rain. I agree that it could be much improved if a fairly small amount of money was spend, coupled with volunteer labour, but the problem is that the club have no ownership of the ground.
Former chairman of the Sports Council; Ossie Kilkenny is the owner (along with another developer I think). It is a pity that both Tolka and Dalymount could not be saved, as they would be perfect for the requirements of the LoI in terms of capacity. Also both have club bars which means extra revenue can be raised which might subsidise the soccer, which is often the case for small Scottish clubs and non-league sides in England.
I think it is much better for Irish soccer if "investors" don't see the clubs as simple property plays.

[Acornvilla]

Uploaded some pictures from Dalymount.

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https://www.behance.net/gallery/20260031/Dalymount-Park

[gufcfan]

Uploaded some pictures from Dalymount.

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https://www.behance.net/gallery/20260031/Dalymount-Park

http://i.imgur.com/puttFx4.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/CcWWbHz.jpg

Much of Irish football in a nutshell.

[The Donie Forde]

I think the first time I was in Dalyer was 1971. Remember being surprised even as a kid at how poor a condition it was in then, having been told many a time of it being the 'spiritual home' of Irish football and reading about all those famous international nights etc.

Those pix are a proper eye opener though. It's a particularly horrible venue now for away fans, though not the worst. Think it's probably decent for the homesters in the Jodi. But sad to see it and Tolka so absolutely run down. Testaments, both of them, to our administrators over the decades - not just the current/recent crew.

[L.T.F.C.]

Both of them are a complete disgust. The fact they get any sort of licence ****s all over the work Athlone, Sligo ourselves and others do to improve their situation.

[Charlie Darwin]

Both of them are a complete disgust. The fact they get any sort of licence ****s all over the work Athlone, Sligo ourselves and others do to improve their situation.
To be fair, your stadiums are already above licensing standards. Any improvements you make are well-appreciated.

[nigel-harps1954]

Both of them are a complete disgust. The fact they get any sort of licence ****s all over the work Athlone, Sligo ourselves and others do to improve their situation.


In all fairness, I could point out parts of CCS in no better shape than some of the photos seen.