Stadium Updates (All Clubs)

[Conroy]

Dundalk's new Youth delevopment Centre got €250,000

[A face]

Yesterday was the last day for objections/appeals to an Bord Planeala for the Drogs stadium. None were lodged. Full steam ahead now.:D

Is that definite? What about the NRA? how did that pan out?

[pineapple stu]

That post was three weeks ago...

[A face]

That post was three weeks ago...

Yeah, what happened with the NRA?

[pineapple stu]

What, you mean "What happened to Drogheda's 17th prediction that the ground was definitely going to get started now, for sure?"

[A face]

What, you mean "What happened to Drogheda's 17th prediction that the ground was definitely going to get started now, for sure?"

I thought it was only up at 15, but yeah we'll take 17th alright so !! ;)

Seriously, Drogs fans ..... did ye find anymore car parking spots out there? Maybe a couple of these (http://www.car-transport-company-uk.co.uk/images/Donaldson%20Transport%20001.jpg) on match day and you could double it ;)

Or put that roundabout on stilts .... thats all the rage these days isn't it :eek:

Seriously .... any word on this?

[placid casual]

What, you mean "What happened to Drogheda's 17th prediction that the ground was definitely going to get started now, for sure?"

you shouldnt really mock ucd fan.
as a rovers fan i can speak from experience when i say false dawns are not enjoyablein the least .:(
hope all works out well for drogheda.

p.s nice one sports grant people for the 2.5 million :)

[pineapple stu]

Absolutely. I was more shocked that A Face was wondering if everything'd been sorted already, for the exact reasons you noted.

[Celdrog]

Seriously .... any word on this?

All in Here (http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=96847)
In a thread you already posted in........
Memory loss setting in........:D

We'll definitely start the building work in January (like I said three years ago). Just don't know what January.

[passinginterest]

A big crane putting in the first parts of the roof in Tallaght stadium this morning. Looked like steel support beams of some sort.

[Philly]

Kildare County FC have commenced work on the following:
A 500 seater stand, five rows of seating the whole length of the pitch
The dugout has been moved forward and pitch lengthened to make room for the new stand
Two turnstiles are being installed
A wall is being erected behind the left hand goal from the current stand

All started now; to be completed within three weeks.

We aren't going bust, we aren't going anywhere.

[HarpoJoyce]

Kildare County FC have commenced work on the following:
A 500 seater stand, five rows of seating the whole length of the pitch
The dugout has been moved forward and pitch lengthened to make room for the new stand
Two turnstiles are being installed
A wall is being erected behind the left hand goal from the current stand

All started now; to be completed within three weeks.

We aren't going bust, we aren't going anywhere.


Thanks for the update, I just have some queries, how much is inputted by Kildare County and Newbridge Town FC's
http://www.newbridgetownfc.com/index.php?id=18
http://www.kildarecountyfc.com/stadium.asp

Is Newbridge Town Jimmy Fagan involved with this new stand aswell?

Regarding the turnstiles, don't go for them modern electronic stainless steel ones, get some good old cast iron ones from some supplier in the North of England. Treat it as a long term investment.

Tell Newbridge Town I wish them well with the new work.

[Philly]

Thanks for the update, I just have some queries, how much is inputted by Kildare County and Newbridge Town FC's
http://www.newbridgetownfc.com/index.php?id=18
http://www.kildarecountyfc.com/stadium.asp

Is Newbridge Town Jimmy Fagan involved with this new stand aswell?

Regarding the turnstiles, don't go for them modern electronic stainless steel ones, get some good old cast iron ones from some supplier in the North of England. Treat it as a long term investment.

Tell Newbridge Town I wish them well with the new work.

Jimmy Fagan is heavily involved of course, and did a great job. New turnstiles have to be up to FAI Standards. They demand a certain type AFAIK.

NTFC and KCFC work together on the ground. Obviously, NTFC don't need two stands and turnstiles but KCFC also wouldn't have the facilities we have if it wasn't for the great work being done by the NTFC folk. The work is being paid for by a grant, it has to be mentioned, which was awarded to NTFC in aid of KCFC or something like that!

[manic da hoop]

http://www.shamrockrovers.ie/gallery/index.php?Qwd=./Stadium/25thAugust2008&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=M

[MMVIII]

Will there be just one stand in Shams new ground?

[Bohemian1890]

How much rent will Rovers be paying out in Tallaght??

[belfastred]

Is Rovers new ground all seated?

[blackholesun]

There will a 3500 seater main stand on one side, and hopefully some sort of temporary stand on the far side. Hopefully around 6000 seats to begin with and then people also able to stand behind either goal, Id say a few hundred at either end.

The roof is coming along well but the frame in place and some of the covered sections already in place. Here is the latest pic.

http://www.shamrockrovers.ie/gallery/qdig-files/converted-images/Stadium/med_roof3.jpg

bhs

[pineapple stu]

Drogheda's ground looking more unlikely according to the Droda Indent this week (http://www.drogheda-independent.ie/sport/soccer/future-of-drogs-in-serious-doubt-1469604.html), though it could well just be Hoey putting on the political pressure like he's done before.

[stamullendrog]

by the sounds of a lot of things stu its more than unlikely its down right fupped

[ndrog]

Drogheda's ground looking more unlikely according to the Droda Indent this week (http://www.drogheda-independent.ie/sport/soccer/future-of-drogs-in-serious-doubt-1469604.html), though it could well just be Hoey putting on the political pressure like he's done before.

Its not happening folks :( .And please refer to him as Vincent , he deserves that much at least .

[Inside Man]

Oh god, absolutely catastrophic news for the league.

[atfconline]

A car load or two of South Dublin County Council officials were down looking at our stadium this afternoon.

[amaccann]

That's fairly tragic sounding for Drogs, can't believe the plans are being scuppered at this late stage in the process. Sometimes, just sometimes, it's easy to think the country is ganging up on the League.

[finnpark]

The credit crunch is really hitting the league hard.

Hopefully Drogheda's backers can stick in there for another season or two anyway, they were so close to the breakthough this year in Europe :( Ah well more room for Harps maybe :)

Harps' stadium is going well, we will have one the finest stadiums in the country and it will be CL approved for when we win the league. No credit crunch in Donegal.

[the-blue-harp]

we never seen the celtic tiger in donegal ya see!! :D work on the stadium hasnt started yet, all contracts are signed. but as usual the solicitors are taking their sweet ass time getting everything cleared for lift off.:mad:

[finnpark]

we never seen the celtic tiger in donegal ya see!! :D work on the stadium hasnt started yet, all contracts are signed. but as usual the solicitors are taking their sweet ass time getting everything cleared for lift off.:mad:

I think Finn Harps will become a very investable club when that stadium is completed. Its a fantastic asset if it ever gets done. We have no competition in Donegal and I think with the right continous marketing and media control we could fill that stadium week in week out.

I do think that we will be relegated this year though but we must be patient. Not much point staying up wth the facilities we have at present, how can you attract any sort of decent crowds with a stadium like we have.

[the-blue-harp]

I think Finn Harps will become a very investable club when that stadium is completed. Its a fantastic asset if it ever gets done. We have no competition in Donegal and I think with the right continous marketing and media control we could fill that stadium week in week out.

I do think that we will be relegated this year though but we must be patient. Not much point staying up wth the facilities we have at present, how can you attract any sort of decent crowds with a stadium like we have.

finn park is a hole, but we need to stay up and i think we'll do it by the skin of our teeth. a few years of stable premier league football is what the club needs, maybe a good cup run too in there somewhere. then we'll actually have a product for the fans in our new stadium rather than a useless first division outfit. we have to establish ourselves.

[Mr A]

More on the Drogheda issue: http://www.drogheda-independent.ie/sport/soccer/councillors-furious-over-claims-1469605.html

[pineapple stu]

Oh god, absolutely catastrophic news for the league.
It's not really. Most people outside of Drogheda figured this was never going to happen from the start, so it's (seeming) abandonment doesn't change anything. The boys walking away, as at Cork and possible Bohs, means much of the wage inflation in the league will stop, and the clubs can get on with operating sensibly. Interesting to see what happens Pat's if they're the last ones standing, and assuming Kelleher doesn't get bored in the meantime.

[paddigol]

It's not really. Most people outside of Drogheda figured this was never going to happen from the start, so it's (seeming) abandonment doesn't change anything. The boys walking away, as at Cork and possible Bohs, means much of the wage inflation in the league will stop, and the clubs can get on with operating sensibly. Interesting to see what happens Pat's if they're the last ones standing, and assuming Kelleher doesn't get bored in the meantime.

What? So the rest of the clubs can abandon their ambition and come back down to UCD's level?
The way forward for the league is better facilities and better players. The money that has come into the league in recent years has helped move things forward on both these fronts. SPA in recent weeks are proof of this. The fact that certain clubs didn't manage their finances properly should sound the death knell for financial investment in the league. And lets remember - football clubs making a loss isn't uniquely an Irish problem. Perhaps it's that in England, Italy etc building a new stadium won't see you shafted by the planning authorities and various State bodies.
Drog's ground is a dump. Their owners planned to make the new one self financing. It's loss is big loss for the league in the same way that SRFC's new ground will be a big boost for the league.

[SMorgan]

What? So the rest of the clubs can abandon their ambition and come back down to UCD's level?


Ambition - I see little of that around the league. Drogheda weren't ambitious, they were reckless.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but from reading the Sunday Business Post, Drogheda's plans were based on something that a planning official in Meath County Council was alledged to have said.

[A face]

lets remember - football clubs making a loss isn't uniquely an Irish problem. Perhaps it's that in England, Italy etc building a new stadium won't see you shafted by the planning authorities and various State bodies.

Exactly, there was absolutely nothing wrong with Drogs going for this.

[pineapple stu]

Exactly, there was absolutely nothing wrong with Drogs going for this.
There clearly was in that it was never going to happen and now they seem to be up proverbial creek as a direct result of it. That's not an unfortunate coincidence.

SMorgan is spot on - people confuse ambition with reality, assume being reckless is the way forward and think that because a club can spout magic dreams about how great things'll be if everything goes their way, those dreams are a reality the league can attain.

LoL at the way everyone assumes the Council were corrupt and the GAA were secretly in the background without having a notion about what actually happened.

[Celdrog]

There clearly was in that it was never going to happen Stu - if you are such a psychic in that you knew our ground would never happen who's going to win the cup this year and what are the euromillions numbers for next week?

[brianw82]

If Drogs' stadium doesn't go ahead, then it's really a knife in the gut for them and the league.

To all those pouring scorn on Drogheda, I've 2 questions: do you know what schadenfreude is, and why there is so much of it around here?

[John83]

Stu - if you are such a psychic in that you knew our ground would never happen who's going to win the cup this year and what are the euromillions numbers for next week?
It's not like he didn't actually predict it. He did. Loudly.

[stamullendrog]

It's not like he didn't actually predict it. He did. Loudly.


and shelbourne too.hold on lads i think i know who stu is,big on cash flow,seems to relish a bit of doom and gloom.stu are you really george lee????

on topic the club have planning permission alright but its the other zoning or the developer or the nra or the council holding it up.no one seems to really know and we should know more at the weekend

[Mr A]

In all fairness lads, if you predict any LOI club is going to have financial problems for long enough it's like predicting a dog will lick its balls: eventually you will be proved right!

[pineapple stu]

Stu - if you are such a psychic in that you knew our ground would never happen who's going to win the cup this year and what are the euromillions numbers for next week?
Can't help you on the latter two. Difference is that they'd just be punts in the dark, while the former just involved keeping an eye on developments. To be honest, if it is formally off, I reckon losing the houses was the key - once they were ruled out, the project was a probable non runner. Even after they were left out, the road to the ground still had roundabouts into random fields, so the houses were clearly important.

[Celdrog]

just involved keeping an eye on developmentsBut you said it wouldn't happen from the start ........

it was never going to happen
So which was it?:rolleyes:

[pineapple stu]

I said you could figure from the start it wasn't going to happen, but that doesn't stop you watching developments and updating your opinion as time goes by.

[Celdrog]

that doesn't stop you watching developments and updating your opinion as time goes by.From its not going to happen to its not going to happen:D

[pineapple stu]

Nope, from "That's never going to happen surely?" to "Yep, that's never going to happen!" to general fun seeing anyone thinking Drogheda have a medium term future.

[adamd164]

Foundations for roof at St Anne's End of Turner's Cross apparently almost finished, so structure should be up soon.

[A face]

To all those pouring scorn on Drogheda, I've 2 questions: do you know what schadenfreude is, and why there is so much of it around here?

Whats schadenfreude? :p


In all fairness lads, if you predict any LOI club is going to have financial problems for long enough it's like predicting a dog will lick its balls: eventually you will be proved right!

Dogs lick their balls? :eek:


Foundations for roof at St Anne's End of Turner's Cross apparently almost finished, so structure should be up soon.

Sounds good to me ;)

[Celdrog]

Whats schadenfreude? :p;)Something we did when Georgie was sitting in the stand:D

[A face]

Something we did when Georgie was sitting in the stand:D

Ahh, the kids giggling at the bad man, ah well i suppose you have to have your fun :p

[adamd164]

St Anne's End roof at Turners Cross starting to take shape...

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa212/ccfcforum/100B6631.jpg

[oriel]

Looks very impressive - Turners X will be a similar standard to a lot of lower lge english club grounds when this is complete.

No question the best in the country when finished