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With both Derry and Drogheda qualifying for the UEFA Cup this year what are their plans for playing the home games does anybody know?
I would imagine both grounds are nowhere near up to standard.
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Derry's ground should be ok to host a euro tie surely?
Drogs shouldn't even be hosting PD games, never mind Europe. But they can keep their european game in the same county as Oriel Pk is passed for hosting 2 rounds Prob get a better deal/more fans than going to Dalymount.
Charlie Darwin
10/04/2013, 9:58 PM
What round are Derry in? The Brandywell should be fine for the first two rounds, unless it's rapidly deteriorated.
Drogs away crowds in Tallaght suggest they probably wouldn't bring massive numbers to Dublin, but I suppose if it's a big enough draw they could make the numbers work. The safe option would seem to be Oriel, with Tallaght an option if they draw Liverpool or something.
freewheel30
10/04/2013, 10:09 PM
They'd never consider Oriel realistically, though, would they? The rivalry seems to have intensified a huge amount since Dundalk got promoted.
Charlie Darwin
10/04/2013, 10:15 PM
How much are they willing to shoot themselves in the foot to keep up a rivalry?
I'd have thought playing in Oriel is the only way Drogs could make a profit from the European games which, given their attendances this season, might be the difference between maintaining their budget for the season or making big cuts in the summer. By all accounts, the Trabzonspor fixture was required to be in Dublin by the Turkish club.
MariborKev
10/04/2013, 10:31 PM
Brandywell is absolutely fine for the first couple of rounds.
wonder88
10/04/2013, 11:22 PM
The current issue of the Phoenix has details of the accounts of the company that owns Longford Town's ground. They seem to have got a write off of 180,000 euros on their loan from ACC Bank which may give Bohs some hope in their dealings with Zurick Bank. It would be great if Bohs could stay and develop Dalymount the home of Irish soccer.
How much are they willing to shoot themselves in the foot to keep up a rivalry?
I'd have thought playing in Oriel is the only way Drogs could make a profit from the European games which, given their attendances this season, might be the difference between maintaining their budget for the season or making big cuts in the summer. By all accounts, the Trabzonspor fixture was required to be in Dublin by the Turkish club.
If I had a choice of renting a ground in Dublin v staying in your own county I would snap at using Drogs ground if same distances applied. Infact we played Malmo in Euro Cup in Utd Park in 1995, as the Oriel pitch (the grass one) was being laid and not ready, great atmosphere I recall, we packed out one side, and Drogs could do the same in oriel. Besides if they drew a decent team, Im sure a lot fo DLK fans would go to the game, I prob would. No probs at all. Think I saw Bohs play a european match in Oriel, late 70's, forget against who, possibly East German?
When driving on M1 the other day near Dlk, the electronic sign over the road said 'Drogheda 18 Mins' and you could see the floodlights of Oriel Pk.
Anway their choice, free to go with the option that they think suits them best.
markc1184
11/04/2013, 8:43 PM
I'd much rather see the match being played in Dundalk than Tallaght. I think there would definitely be a better crowd if played in Dundalk. We'll see when the time gets closer, I may have taken it up wrong about Tallaght being agreed on. I'll dig out the programme tomorrow and give it another read.
All assuming dundalkkk are open to renting the ground at all, and then at a reasonable cost.
bullit
11/04/2013, 11:11 PM
All assuming dundalkkk are open to renting the ground at all, and then at a reasonable cost.
Do stadia not have to pass a UEFA set test for the year that it is to be used in? Oriel passed in 2010 for Dundalk's campaign but would that licence still be valid today?
Longfordian
12/04/2013, 9:46 AM
The current issue of the Phoenix has details of the accounts of the company that owns Longford Town's ground. They seem to have got a write off of 180,000 euros on their loan from ACC Bank which may give Bohs some hope in their dealings with Zurick Bank. It would be great if Bohs could stay and develop Dalymount the home of Irish soccer.
Yeah ACC took an up front settlement on the loan. Only major creditor left now is our chairman I think.
I remember seeing the list of items that UEFA set out for clubs to host round 1 and 2 games, it was over 100 items. Things like back up generators on site, bulb strenghts for floodlights, car parking, wi fi connections, 2k seating capacity (3k actually I think), pitch obviously, not sure if a repeat inspection is required or how long any previous licence lasts and assume same would apply for all competing clubs, but the criteria was intensive, thats for sure.
avvenalaf
12/04/2013, 10:24 AM
Yeah ACC took an up front settlement on the loan. Only major creditor left now is our chairman I think.
You must have a lot of chairmen.
L.T.F.C.
12/04/2013, 10:49 AM
Yeah ACC took an up front settlement on the loan. Only major creditor left now is our chairman I think.
You must have a lot of chairmen.
Why do you say that?
Longfordian
12/04/2013, 12:36 PM
Yeah ACC took an up front settlement on the loan. Only major creditor left now is our chairman I think.
You must have a lot of chairmen.
No, we have one who's put in a hell of a lot.
redobit
12/04/2013, 12:56 PM
I remember seeing the list of items that UEFA set out for clubs to host round 1 and 2 games, it was over 100 items. Things like back up generators on site, bulb strenghts for floodlights, car parking, wi fi connections, 2k seating capacity (3k actually I think), pitch obviously, not sure if a repeat inspection is required or how long any previous licence lasts and assume same would apply for all competing clubs, but the criteria was intensive, thats for sure.
UEFA inspections/ guidelines are a joke going form our game against Trnava from Albania a few years back. We spent 14 k getting the Showgrounds up to standard for the inspection. When we went over to Albania the stadium was falling down, no womens toilets water flowing down walls, big holes in the ground. It was ridiculous.
UEFA inspections/ guidelines are a joke going form our game against Trnava from Albania a few years back. We spent 14 k getting the Showgrounds up to standard for the inspection. When we went over to Albania the stadium was falling down, no womens toilets water flowing down walls, big holes in the ground. It was ridiculous.
Rumour has it the Albabians were attempting to fail the inspection and were stunned to pass.
adamd164
12/04/2013, 2:22 PM
Trnava are Slovakian, and that game was last summer!
redarmyfaction
12/04/2013, 2:32 PM
^He meant Villanzia, the Trnava ground wasn't great either.
All the ground regulations (etc) are there
Here's the Europa League guidelines
http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Regulations/competitions/Regulations/01/80/06/31/1800631_DOWNLOAD.pdf
Unless stipulated otherwise in these regulations, matches in the competition must be played in a stadium which meets the structural criteria of the following categories as defined in the UEFA Stadium Infrastructure Regulations (2010edition):
a) category 2 for the first and second qualifying rounds;
b) category 3 for the third qualifying round and play-offs;
Here's the UEFA Stadium Infrastructure Regulations (2010 edition):
http://www.fai.ie/PDF/UEFAStadiumInfrastructureRegulations2010.PDF
They're clearly flexible enough with it though
Charlie Darwin
12/04/2013, 4:47 PM
Rumour has it the Albabians were attempting to fail the inspection and were stunned to pass.
They must have accidentally bribed the right people.
work has restarted to fit out and finnish facalities to UEFA standard new dressingrooms at new stand at Eamon Deacy park (Terryland)hopefully getting them ready for the return of a galway team next year
White Horse
23/04/2013, 11:22 PM
I'd much rather see the match being played in Dundalk than Tallaght. I think there would definitely be a better crowd if played in Dundalk. We'll see when the time gets closer, I may have taken it up wrong about Tallaght being agreed on. I'll dig out the programme tomorrow and give it another read.
I'd go to oriel if Drogheda played a Euro tie there. I'd reckon they'd get 200-300 football fans from the town as well.
No brainer for them, 25 minutes, no tolls and a suitable sized ground that they can create a good atmosphere in.
sligoman
24/04/2013, 3:42 PM
work has restarted to fit out and finnish facalities to UEFA standard new dressingrooms at new stand at Eamon Deacy parkWhat's so good about the dressing rooms in Finland?
gufcfan
24/04/2013, 3:51 PM
What's so good about the dressing rooms in Finland?
Hot tubs, obviously. Do we have to spell everything out?
Hot tubs, obviously. Do we have to spell everything out?
No, but would a powerpoint presentation be too much to ask?
Quayman
25/04/2013, 9:17 AM
I'd go to oriel if Drogheda played a Euro tie there. I'd reckon they'd get 200-300 football fans from the town as well.
No brainer for them, 25 minutes, no tolls and a suitable sized ground that they can create a good atmosphere in.
It is but they would rather go waste more money like the Turkish friendly that collapsed and cost them.
Sam_Heggy
01/05/2013, 7:51 AM
The New Finn Park's funding has finally come through and the workers are back on site. They hope to have "significant" work done on the ground by the end of the Summer.
Finally it looks like happening, even the most optimistic of us were beginning to doubt it lately.
nigel-harps1954
01/05/2013, 4:01 PM
Site levelled out, diggers there. I believe the stone/concrete bit is to be the main stand site, which is first on the agenda.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/48042_376186769164029_1013126837_n.jpg
redobit
01/05/2013, 5:35 PM
Impressive photo.
bullit
06/05/2013, 4:47 AM
Sligo fans now becoming the new Shams fans.What's with all the acting the tool these days lads?
redobit
06/05/2013, 11:12 AM
Sligo fans now becoming the new Shams fans.What's with all the acting the tool these days lads?
Not at all. Its just too difficult to hold back from having a go a Harps fan.
BonnieShels
08/05/2013, 1:42 PM
Not at all. Its just too difficult to hold back from having a go a Harps fan.
They're surely happy enough with the sheep without the delectable temptation of a bit o'red.
gufcfan
08/05/2013, 2:00 PM
Sligo fans now becoming the new Shams fans.What's with all the acting the tool these days lads?
One or two popped up on the GUST forum, behaving like muppets too.
Sligo are doing great, Galway football is in bad shape, we get it.
They're surely happy enough with the sheep without the delectable temptation of a bit o'red.
Indeed we are. Your point being?
nigel-harps1954
10/05/2013, 8:12 PM
They're surely happy enough with the sheep without the delectable temptation of a bit o'red.
We do love our sheep in fairness..
redobit
11/05/2013, 8:51 PM
In fairness as much as I enjoy having a pop at Harps fans, it would be great to see them back in the Premier. Id enjoy a wee trip up to Donegal any day before heading to The Pale visiting the current bottom grounds like Carlise grounds or the Bowl. (and its 3 easy points up there too:p)
Charlie Darwin
12/05/2013, 11:06 PM
In fairness as much as I enjoy having a pop at Harps fans, it would be great to see them back in the Premier. Id enjoy a wee trip up to Donegal any day before heading to The Pale visiting the current bottom grounds like Carlise grounds or the Bowl. (and its 3 easy points up there too:p)
You forgot Tallaght :(
BonnieShels
14/05/2013, 8:15 AM
Indeed we are. Your point being?
Just saying ye haven't the stamina to take on sheep and bull.
northwestexile
07/06/2013, 7:11 AM
Now I know it's not the most reliable of sources but this caught my eye the other day on the Aviva Stadium Wiki page.
Unlike its predecessor, which was solely owned by the Irish Rugby Football Union (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Rugby_Football_Union)(IRFU), the current stadium is controlled by the IRFU and the Football Association of Ireland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_Association_of_Ireland) (FAI) through a 50:50 joint venture known as the Lansdowne Road Stadium Development Company (LRSDC). The joint venture has a 60-year lease on the stadium;[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviva_Stadium#cite_note-11) on expiry the stadium will return to the exclusive ownership of the IRFU.
Can anybody shed some light on this?
IRFU own the site. I'd say 60 years is well past the life expectancy of the stadium anyway.
BonnieShels
07/06/2013, 12:34 PM
What Macy said.
So in 2049 the FAI may realise this and get the yips!
fionnsci
09/06/2013, 7:12 PM
The soccer team will always play there, probably just have to pay rent. I assume this was the scenario pre-Aviva? That'll be a good 20 years after Séamus Coleman manages us to World Cup glory though, I'd hope the FAI will be minted.
danthesaint
09/06/2013, 7:21 PM
The soccer team will always play there, probably just have to pay rent. I assume this was the scenario pre-Aviva? That'll be a good 20 years after Séamus Coleman manages us to World Cup glory though, I'd hope the FAI will be minted.
You forgot the part where JD will be still in charge of the FAI earning 1million euro a week ;)
peadar1987
09/06/2013, 7:51 PM
In fairness as much as I enjoy having a pop at Harps fans, it would be great to see them back in the Premier. Id enjoy a wee trip up to Donegal any day before heading to The Pale visiting the current bottom grounds like Carlise grounds or the Bowl. (and its 3 easy points up there too:p)
The Pale stopped at Dalkey. We've no association with those leds behind the fence!
nigel-harps1954
11/07/2013, 3:46 PM
Pat's rebuilt 'Patrons Stand'. Now complies with all UEFA regulations. Presumably this takes capacity back up to around 3,000?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1004060_10151640938817550_2024027364_n.jpg
redobit
14/07/2013, 11:37 AM
^^ Have they reinforced in for fat people this time around
Nesta99
14/07/2013, 3:55 PM
Does it come down now again after the one home european match? Would be a pity if so and a bit of a waste without the expected annual st pats european run
nigel-harps1954
14/07/2013, 5:20 PM
It's back in permanently supposedly. A good move by Pat's. Another one at the other side and they'll be flying.
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