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oriel

27/12/2017, 6:36 PM

Word around town, the takeover will be complete next week in Oriel and work will begin to build a stand on ShedSide (Shed will still be in operation on match nights)

Town end and Away end to follow. Id imagine and rightly so, Away end will be left to last!

Was wondering how the club would accommodate shed side fans if that side, as has been mentioned is the first for rebuild, can’t see the current shed still being in use while under reconstruction. I was thinking current away side or behind the town goal more likely to house fans in the period of rebuilding, or they might have to a put in a temporary stand until the new structure is completely passed for safety.

With the background being the YDC a new stand on the shed side would be the perfect spot for the first build, as you could easily use the YDC for all things you need in a new stand, toilets, catering, and use the bar that is already in there. I’d also imagine the timeline to build might be quicker with already having a solid structure at the back. I’d also change the camera side, place that on top of the current main stand, plenty of space on top of the extended flat roof that covers the small terracing at the front of the stand. They could build access from within the stand for the crew.

Anyway nothing has been announced, pure speculation, but the shed side is where I would start first.

Nesta99

27/12/2017, 7:51 PM

Get a ground built to replace a mess, risk going to the wall if investors leave, create a Phoenix club, buy back the name of the club and with it a roll of honour, get very cranky at the suggestion of a 'newclub', insist that the oldclub remains and that debts have been serviced fairly at couple of cent per € debt. Carry on pompously in the home that others built! It worked for other clubs in the league...

Ezeikial

27/12/2017, 8:03 PM

I think this is premature speculation. It seems unlikely that there will be any imminent completion of the takeover.

outspoken

28/12/2017, 9:25 AM

Heard the other day Newrys ground could be used while Oriel is worked on

ccfcman

28/12/2017, 9:55 AM

Nesta99

28/12/2017, 11:41 AM

Im a coke man myself, why?

ccfcman

28/12/2017, 12:25 PM

Yes I believe cross border drug smuggling is a big game ;) . Just the bitterness is ripe in that post, I would say.

dundalkfc10

28/12/2017, 12:48 PM

Heard the other day Newrys ground could be used while Oriel is worked on

FAI wont allow that, as they didnt allow it when we had to play home games in Monaghan and Drogheda before.

If we do have to play at a diff ground, id be all for Newry great little ground.

Nesta99

28/12/2017, 3:13 PM

Yes I believe cross border drug smuggling is a big game ;) . Just the bitterness is ripe in that post, I would say.

It isnt a patch on diesel!!

Naw its not bitter at all, its a well worn path in LoI. If this investment in Dundalk happens and then turns sour we can follow the examples of Cork, Shamrock Rovers, and Derry and we may have got a redeveloped ground out of it.

Do Rovers and Cork fans genuinely think that they would be playing in the fine facilities that have if there wasnt Council intervention on a derelect aborted development in Tallaght or the Munster FA doing a great job at Turners Cross? Sligo Rovers have to be lauded for what they have achieved in developing the Showgrounds without needing someone else to take the reins or intervene. In the the case of Shamrock Rovers I do think that there is a bit of short memories and selective thinking when shouting down facilities at other clubs, even Oriel Parks outdated and crumbling away section but tbh we'd probably do the same if circumstances were reversed.

Charlie Darwin

28/12/2017, 5:39 PM

FAI wont allow that, as they didnt allow it when we had to play home games in Monaghan and Drogheda before.

If we do have to play at a diff ground, id be all for Newry great little ground.
Not sure of the ins and outs, but I'd say it'd be the IFA who wouldn't allow a "foreign" team play on their territory.

ccfcman

29/12/2017, 11:12 AM

It isnt a patch on diesel!!

Naw its not bitter at all, its a well worn path in LoI. If this investment in Dundalk happens and then turns sour we can follow the examples of Cork, Shamrock Rovers, and Derry and we may have got a redeveloped ground out of it.

Do Rovers and Cork fans genuinely think that they would be playing in the fine facilities that have if there wasnt Council intervention on a derelect aborted development in Tallaght or the Munster FA doing a great job at Turners Cross? Sligo Rovers have to be lauded for what they have achieved in developing the Showgrounds without needing someone else to take the reins or intervene. In the the case of Shamrock Rovers I do think that there is a bit of short memories and selective thinking when shouting down facilities at other clubs, even Oriel Parks outdated and crumbling away section but tbh we'd probably do the same if circumstances were reversed.

Much truth in what you say of course.

The flipside is, the league actually benefits in the long run from such phoenix clubs. Of course there should be no instance of clubs going bang or councils handing out stadia but had Cork City not been run into the ground a couple of times but ultimately rescued by the fans, the league would suffer dearly for our absence.

I see no reason to trust investors given what Arkaga did to Cork City and it is my absolute hope no such issue should befall Dundalk. There were sad times in Cork and a genuine fear that City were done and dusted but the people it affected directly - players and staff, well they were left holding the preverbial with families to feed and mortgages to pay. You wouldn't wish that on anyone, shiny new stadium or no.

oriel

29/12/2017, 4:26 PM

I don’t have a problem with the system with councils going into partnership with clubs to build a stadium. It’s hard enough to get investors in to run LOI clubs let alone pour money in for redevelopment. If this method via the council like Tallaght, and soon to be Dalymount, is a realistic offer, clubs would be mad not to go for it.

In Cork’s case the ground is owned and more importantly maintained by the MFC, but all of these grounds come with a price. I understand it’s a significant monthly rental for both TC and Tallaght but look what they get in return.

No true LOI fan should like to see another club die, (some Drogs fans may disagree) and in the case of reformed versions of Derry & Cork, it’s hardly expected that each would honestly re-start at the exact point of reform, for example most will view Cork’s recent league title as the 3rd for the club not the first, would be a little pendantic to suggest it was their first. I think ‘won under new ownership’ is probably a fairer description.

Nesta99

30/12/2017, 9:33 AM

No true LOI fan should like to see another club die, (some Drogs fans may disagree) and in the case of reformed versions of Derry & Cork, it’s hardly expected that each would honestly re-start at the exact point of reform, for example most will view Cork’s recent league title as the 3rd for the club not the first, would be a little pendantic to suggest it was their first. I think ‘won under new ownership’ is probably a fairer description.

Try saying that to yer average Glasgow Celtic fan:D

oriel

30/12/2017, 1:32 PM

Yes. I immediately thought of Sevco / Rangers after I posted that !

Charlie Darwin

30/12/2017, 3:59 PM

Celtic fans are another species and shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as normal people.

sbgawa

30/12/2017, 4:32 PM

I agree with you about some Celtic fans but a lot of them are sound. Also Celtic have been good to us as a club coming and playing friendlies etc.

Philosophizer

30/12/2017, 7:27 PM

I agree with you about some Celtic fans but a lot of them are sound. Also Celtic have been good to us as a club coming and playing friendlies etc.

I think a huge amount of those Irish Celtic fans are complete fools. I was in Dublin airport this morning for an early flight to London and the amount of lads wearing Celtic gear flying over to Glasgow was mind boggling. Really grinds my gears seeing all those dopes flying over every weekend, while our own league is ignored by the masses.

Nesta99

30/12/2017, 8:14 PM

I have probably mentioned this before and it is well off topic but worth the digression imo. I followed behind the Aberdeen fans being escorted frm the city centre out to Tolka prior to the European game v Bohs. One lad accross the street was wearing a Celtic top when he was spotted by the Aberdeen fans. They proceeded to give him fierce abuse. The poor chap did have a clue what was going one with getting abused in Ireland for wearing a celtic top. Obviously he hadnt a notion that Aberdeen were in town for a game. and there was a big Aberdeen support - he fairly scampered off in panic!!

I wasnt suggesting above that rolls of honour should be expunged for the phoenix clubs, just that the same thing could be applied to Dundalk FC is this investment happens and at some point they walk away. So be it if it happens, hopefully we will be prepared to pick up the pieces as supporters and at least maybe there will have been ground improvements. It is never nice to see ANY league club in difficulty. Bucket collections have been held outside Oriel for clubs in trouble including Drogheda and were well supported. Was it Limerick there was €2-3k raised for in this way? and also efforts for members of the LoI community like Hanno. The right attitude to put rivalries aside at times for the collective good.

I was told today that there was a test planning application for a new stand in Oriel submitted to the council. Its not much but it is something if accurate.

oriel

31/12/2017, 11:41 AM

I think a huge amount of those Irish Celtic fans are complete fools. I was in Dublin airport this morning for an early flight to London and the amount of lads wearing Celtic gear flying over to Glasgow was mind boggling. Really grinds my gears seeing all those dopes flying over every weekend, while our own league is ignored by the masses.

I’d say far more fly over to watch English clubs play most weekends and these would be the same mob that would be the most anti England when when theworld cup etc starts.

Back on topic, I also heard planning applications were submitted for a new stand and that the initial feedback was positive.

bennocelt

31/12/2017, 12:55 PM

I�d say far more fly over to watch English clubs play most weekends and these would be the same mob that would be the most anti England when when theworld cup etc starts.

Back on topic, I also heard planning applications were submitted for a new stand and that the initial feedback was positive.

A lot of them love the rugby and support the Gah in the summer, anything but the LOI

brendy_�ire

05/01/2018, 10:40 AM

https://www.derrynow.com/soccer/derrys-first-home-game-brandywell-doubt-due-poor-weather-conditions-delaying-pitch-installation/201791

Brandywell update. Nothing like a good panic.

disgruntled

05/01/2018, 11:35 AM

https://www.derrynow.com/soccer/derrys-first-home-game-brandywell-doubt-due-poor-weather-conditions-delaying-pitch-installation/201791

Brandywell update. Nothing like a good panic.

Where did anyone get the idea that you would get 3 to 6 weeks of dry weather at this time of the year 🤣

brendy_�ire

05/01/2018, 11:47 AM

Where did anyone get the idea that you would get 3 to 6 weeks of dry weather at this time of the year ��

Or any time of the year.
You'd imagine that it'll be fine, sure Dundalk's pitch was laid last winter. Doubt that we won't get in any pre-season friendlies played there just.

disgruntled

05/01/2018, 2:08 PM

Or any time of the year.
You'd imagine that it'll be fine, sure Dundalk's pitch was laid last winter. Doubt that we won't get in any pre-season friendlies played there just.

It would have been nice to get in a couple of friendly games just to iron out any problems.

gufcfan

05/01/2018, 2:33 PM

I'm not sure you should iron plastic-based fabrics.

Dalymountrower

31/01/2018, 4:18 AM

Philosophizer

31/01/2018, 4:43 PM

All seater stadium in Navan ffs.

Crazy stuff all right, Similar to the 160(?) mill project down in Cork for a stadium that will be filled once a year.

It's been said a thousand times, but i'll say it again - any stadium that's been built/rebuilt with public funds should be a multi-purpose sports facility.

EatYerGreens

31/01/2018, 9:51 PM

Crazy stuff all right, Similar to the 160(?) mill project down in Cork for a stadium that will be filled once a year.

It's been said a thousand times, but i'll say it again - any stadium that's been built/rebuilt with public funds should be a multi-purpose sports facility.

Not as crazy as the proposal to rebuild Casement Park in Belfast as a 34,000+ seater stadium - for a county who currently gets crowds of about 300 at their games. A white elephant in the calving.

samhaydenjr

01/02/2018, 2:00 AM

https://www.thesun.ie/news/2091457/government-set-to-pump-e50-million-into-new-stadium-building-project-to-revitalise-some-of-irelands-oldest-sports-grounds/
Rumour above but ring of truth about it. No Irish Govt it seems can announce funding for a publicly owned community stadium without also announcing a bail out for a privately owned GAA vanity project.All seater stadium in Navan ffs.

I was about to get all outraged myself and then I read that total cost would be 9 million euros for a 22,000 seat stadium and thought "that actually seems like really good value for money"

redobit

01/02/2018, 8:36 AM

Not as crazy as the proposal to rebuild Casement Park in Belfast as a 34,000+ seater stadium - for a county who currently gets crowds of about 300 at their games. A white elephant in the calving.

No to mention that Irish taxes would be building stadiums in another, soon to be non-European state. There are a lot better candidates for that money, not just in sporting circles.

EatYerGreens

01/02/2018, 12:53 PM

No to mention that Irish taxes would be building stadiums in another, soon to be non-European state. There are a lot better candidates for that money, not just in sporting circles.

Good to se the spirit of partition alive and well on Foot.ie :) You'll make a DUP MP very proud with that sentiment.

Can you clarify precisely what southern tax money would be going to the Casement project ? Simply saying 'We gave the GAA some government money, and they're putting some money into Casement Park, so therefore Casement must be getting some ROI tax funding' won't cut the mustard on this I'm afraid. Especially as the main funder for the project is Stormont. Thanks.

Nesta99

01/02/2018, 7:57 PM

Is making a DUP MP very proud supposed to be a slight on the poster? Good to see the spirit of inclusive respect for all is also alive and well on foot.ie:rolleyes:

I have more issue with tax payers money being spent on the Navan project than Casement Park tbh.

sbgawa

01/02/2018, 8:12 PM

Peak 6 to relocate the franchise to new stadium in navan . You heard it here first.

colonelwest

01/02/2018, 9:05 PM

Peak 6 to relocate the franchise to new stadium in navan . You heard it here first.

Nah, they've already made some improvements on the away end in Oriel sure!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DU-mOWzW4AAIa8P.jpg:large

redobit

02/02/2018, 9:32 AM

Good to se the spirit of partition alive and well on Foot.ie :) You'll make a DUP MP very proud with that sentiment.

Can you clarify precisely what southern tax money would be going to the Casement project ? Simply saying 'We gave the GAA some government money, and they're putting some money into Casement Park, so therefore Casement must be getting some ROI tax funding' won't cut the mustard on this I'm afraid. Especially as the main funder for the project is Stormont. Thanks.

Do the DUP do sentiment. I thought they only done rhetoric.

Anyway. Is it Stormont paying for it? Fair enough I didn't know that. I just assumed funding was coming from the GAA Headquarters which get a nice chunk from government.

DannyInvincible

02/02/2018, 4:02 PM

A photo (https://www.instagram.com/p/BeVFCycD8-1/) of the new pitch and stand in the Brandywell that was put out on the club's Instagram just over a week ago:

https://image.ibb.co/gGg366/capture.png

patrickccfc

02/02/2018, 7:06 PM

https://twitter.com/corkcityfcnews/status/959477226264776705

Installation of toilets at the St.Anne's end of Turner's Cross. Away fans rejoice

Nesta99

02/02/2018, 7:27 PM

https://twitter.com/corkcityfcnews/status/959477226264776705

Installation of toilets at the St.Anne's end of Turner's Cross. Away fans rejoice

We shall never hear the end of it.......:pray: :D

oriel

02/02/2018, 7:45 PM

This will almost make TC the complete stadium, only been once but always got the feeling its probably the only LOI ground that has an almost replica feel to a League 1 style stadium in England, covered stands on all four sides and a perfect location in the city.

Has the roof being fully repaired in the Derrynane stand ? I think I saw photos before it had?

Looking forward to seeing progress in Tallaght when the 3rd stand gets up and running, hopefully it will be ready just in time for our EL group games in September !

Dundalk's new owners meeting the fans on Sun night, details of new away end and improved selection of crisps and minerals to follow.

ger121

02/02/2018, 8:02 PM

Dundalk's new owners meeting the fans on Sun night, details of new away end and improved selection of crisps and minerals to follow.

All a bit vague if you ask me. The devil is in the detail and away fans won’t be happy unless there are major improvements to the match day experience. I mean what are we taking about here? King, Tayto..? Minerals could mean anything. Big difference between Spar Cola and the real stuff. I for one won’t be holding my breath, well maybe, cause half way through this post I got Tayto on the brain and now there is a bang of Cheese and Onion off me. Just another thing for me to hold against you!

placid casual

02/02/2018, 8:07 PM

tayto is a culchie crisp.
Real dublin people only eat King crisps. We love Kings so much we wave union jacks at them!

ger121

02/02/2018, 8:14 PM

tayto is a culchie crisp.
Real dublin people only eat King crisps. We love Kings so much we wave union jacks at them!

What would you Wicklow boys know about Dublin’s favorite crisp.

Nesta99

02/02/2018, 9:07 PM

Ah now Rovers dublin real mccoys!!

ToberonaTornado

02/02/2018, 9:21 PM

A photo (https://www.instagram.com/p/BeVFCycD8-1/) of the new pitch and stand in the Brandywell that was put out on the club's Instagram just over a week ago:

https://image.ibb.co/gGg366/capture.png

Pitch looks $hit- :D

Candystripe

02/02/2018, 9:30 PM

Pitch looks $hit- :D

Lol

Still send to go on it and rumours that the scheduled first game v Sligo might be put back until May. That would mean the first game would be v Dundalk.

In saying that their must have been 40+ work vans in and around the stadium this past week and even at night time work was on going with the floodlights helping.

The Southend stand is also getting a refurbishment and is definitely looking better.

oriel

03/02/2018, 9:51 AM

There is a big Dlk crowd heading up for that game on 2nd March and a lot are staying over, definitely looking forward to it and seeing the newly opened ground.

A Derry lad at work was telling me 'the rocking chair' is a good spot pre match, any thoughts?

micls

03/02/2018, 11:02 AM

Work is currently happening on the Derrynane roof repair. Also some other work on the St Anne's with a new wheelchair section as well as the toilets.

sbgawa

03/02/2018, 12:05 PM

Work is currently happening on the Derrynane roof repair. Also some other work on the St Anne's with a new wheelchair section as well as the toilets.

Toilets !! Your just bragging now :)

CorribsideSteve

03/02/2018, 1:44 PM

Great to see continued work on TX. When I started watching LOI 20 years ago, the St. Annes end was (I think) wasn't even built. I know Stadium developments can seem to crawl at a snail's pace, but in some cases, a fair few grounds have come on a lot since those days, although obviously, a lot more work needs to be done though.