Stadium Updates (All Clubs)

[Charlie Darwin]

SDCC you mean
No, SDCC builds run on time all the time.

[pesky]

I think the Brandywell will look a pretty decent ground if Phase 2 ever gets done. What side of the ground will the TV gantry be on ?

[A N Mouse]

I think the Brandywell will look a pretty decent ground if Phase 2 ever gets done. What side of the ground will the TV gantry be on ?

Media room and gantry are to be in new stand.

this link to planing might work http://epicdocs.planningni.gov.uk/ShowCaseFile.aspx?guid=04d742f2-50ce-4360-a60f-adfb33ff02a4 Otherwise there link elsewhere in this thread

As phase one is centre block, and phase 2 is side, don't see why wouldn't be in phase 1

[RathfarnhamHoop]

SDCC you mean

Would you like me to call oriel parks redevelopment, if it ever starts, a casey family build oposed to a league of ireland one? Or Dalymount a dcc build? Its a ground used predominantly for league of ireland football with a league of ireland club as anchor tenant therefore its a league of ireland build. You do realise there is a difference between owner and use of a place yeah?

[jinxy lilywhite]

The Casey family trust own the land on which oriel park is built on. A nominal fee is paid and a long term lease is in place.
The stand and adjoining amenities are owned by dundalk fc. It's an entirely different scenario than rovers tenancy with SDCC or bohs impending one with DCC.
Uparade works on tallaght stadium and it's build has been done with taxpayers money. Unfortunately provincial clubs do not get the same treatment as the dublin clubs

[sbgawa]

So if the FAI or the govt offer money i guess you will be turning it down ?

[jinxy lilywhite]

So if the FAI or the govt offer money i guess you will be turning it down ?

Nope I would not turn any funding down.

[sbgawa]

Fair enough, neither did we

[EatYerGreens]

Martin McGuinness said that the money for Phase 2 was guaranteed.
Not sure what the story is with that now, but I'd be more hopeful than usual that the money will appear, if only because SF candidates don't want a hard time on the doorsteps.

Martin McGuinness is dead though, Derry has no MLA's in senior positions, and there is no government at Stormont anyway to allocate funding for things like this. So I wouldn't hold your breath.

If Ireland wins the right in November to host the 2023 Rugby World Cup then you might see things happen on stadiums in the north suddenly. Without it, they'll probably go the way of everything else up there without a government.

[Nesta99]

Fair enough, neither did we

I bet not but did all the funding go to what it was allocated for prior to the Tallaght SRFC project being taken off the club....

[RathfarnhamHoop]

http://m.herald.ie/sport/soccer/dalymount-delayed-but-bohs-and-shels-to-move-in-for-2022-36179073.html
Dalymount redevelopment delayed, who could've seen that coming?

[gufcfan]

who could've seen that coming?

A blind man.

[Philosophizer]

No way will it be finished for 2022! At least not all of it. 2022 is probably the date set for completion of phase 1: main stand and pitch.
And the original plans are changing. Rather than a 10k stadium as first planned it will now be 8k to cut costs.
And the initial promise of bars in the stand are now sounding a bit sketchy. Surprise, surprise.
"It's also hoped that potential issues over the sale of alcohol on what is DCC property can be cleared to allow both Bohs and Shels earn bar revenue."

[RathfarnhamHoop]

No way will it be finished for 2022! At least not all of it. 2022 is probably the date set for completion of phase 1: main stand and pitch.
And the original plans are changing. Rather than a 10k stadium as first planned it will now be 8k to cut costs.
And the initial promise of bars in the stand are now sounding a bit sketchy. Surprise, surprise.
"It's also hoped that potential issues over the sale of alcohol on what is DCC property can be cleared to allow both Bohs and Shels earn bar revenue."

Article also says itll be the biggest LOI stadium when its opened which isnt true so im taking what they say in it with a pinch of salt

[Nesta99]

It isnt true? if it were 10,000 all-seated then im pretty sure it would be the biggest capacity league ground, even at 8k it would be top of the heap too unless/until SDCC add a stand in Tallaght that is over 3000 capacity. Depends on how you are defining biggest i suppose

[GCdfc]

Dundalk to lay a new pitch in the offseason curtesy of Rovers due to fire damage on the old surface.

[Nesta99]

The FAI's 180k could come in useful!

[mcgonigle]

Withhold their share of the gate, might persuade them to do something about it

[Asterix]

They should withhold dundalks share of the gate as well until they sort out their security. Allowing both sets of fans to bring pyro into the gorund. Shocking stuff.

[mcgonigle]

They should withhold dundalks share of the gate as well until they sort out their security. Allowing both sets of fans to bring pyro into the gorund. Shocking stuff.

If people want to bring flares into a ground they will, you cannot eradicate it without strip searching people. Name me a LOI where security have managed this?

[RathfarnhamHoop]

It isnt true? if it were 10,000 all-seated then im pretty sure it would be the biggest capacity league ground, even at 8k it would be top of the heap too unless/until SDCC add a stand in Tallaght that is over 3000 capacity. Depends on how you are defining biggest i suppose
Its only going to be an 8k stadium and the new stand in tallaght will make that 8k too since its being built so tallaght can be cat 4 and that requires 8k capacity. So itll be at best joint biggest if its opened fully completed which i doubt it will be.

Id imagine we, rovers, are going to have to pay to fix oriels pitch. Would i be wrong in saying a flare was on the pitch earlier in the season too but it didn't catch fire? Was the pitch dryer than normal yesterday or something? Ive been really sick last few days so haven't gotten round to watching the game yet so ive no idea what conditions were like

[Martinho II]

They should withhold dundalks share of the gate as well until they sort out their security. Allowing both sets of fans to bring pyro into the gorund. Shocking stuff.

same thing happened to us two years ago. both clubs got fined heavily that day.

[Asterix]

Its only going to be an 8k stadium and the new stand in tallaght will make that 8k too since its being built so tallaght can be cat 4 and that requires 8k capacity. So itll be at best joint biggest if its opened fully completed which i doubt it will be.

Id imagine we, rovers, are going to have to pay to fix oriels pitch. Would i be wrong in saying a flare was on the pitch earlier in the season too but it didn't catch fire? Was the pitch dryer than normal yesterday or something? Ive been really sick last few days so haven't gotten round to watching the game yet so ive no idea what conditions were like

The flare was left to burn for about a minute before anyone tried to remove it.

[Nesta99]

They should withhold dundalks share of the gate as well until they sort out their security. Allowing both sets of fans to bring pyro into the gorund. Shocking stuff.

Isnt a cup fixture predominantly FAI run? A lot of the stewards on the stand side of the pitch had FAI rather than Dundalk FC bibs on.

[Asterix]

Isnt a cup fixture predominantly FAI run? A lot of the stewards on the stand side of the pitch had FAI rather than Dundalk FC bibs on.

Most has cx+ sport bibs on at the away end.

[Nesta99]

Article also says itll be the biggest LOI stadium when its opened which isnt true so im taking what they say in it with a pinch of salt


Its only going to be an 8k stadium and the new stand in tallaght will make that 8k too since its being built so tallaght can be cat 4 and that requires 8k capacity. So itll be at best joint biggest if its opened fully completed which i doubt it will be.


You doubt it will be fully completed and you have first hand experience of issues surrounding ground development delays but who will have the biggest ground, when both are still pending builds is taking the p*ssing match rivalry with Bohs a touch to the ridiculous.

[Nesta99]

Most has cx+ sport bibs on at the away end.

Well yes as the game is in Dundalk so local stewards will be used but co-ordinated with the FAI and with FAI stewards present. The match delegate will have had a birds eye view anyways and the security liason will have their report too.

[outspoken]

same thing happened to us two years ago. both clubs got fined heavily that day.

Don't believe everything ya hear Marty

[RathfarnhamHoop]

You doubt it will be fully completed and you have first hand experience of issues surrounding ground development delays but who will have the biggest ground, when both are still pending builds is taking the p*ssing match rivalry with Bohs a touch to the ridiculous.

It's not a ****ing contest I was just pointing out how whoever wrote the article clearly had done little to no research before making the statement. Also the Tallaght and Dayler builds are in completely different stages of planning, tallaght has funding allocated, site notice up and planning granted, dayler has a concept design and a potential rough start date and thats it. So to claim they're in the same boat is taking it a touch to the ridiculous.

[RathfarnhamHoop]

The flare was left to burn for about a minute before anyone tried to remove it.
Why would they leave it? Was stupid to throw it there but it was also equally stupid to leave it there

[Asterix]

Why would they leave it? Was stupid to throw it there but it was also equally stupid to leave it there

None of the stewards cared until the pitch went up in flames. Then a few ran over.

[White Horse]

Why would they leave it? Was stupid to throw it there but it was also equally stupid to leave it there

It was not thrown through stupidity. It was a deliberate act to damage the pitch. The scum had their mobile phones held up to video their vandalism.

The cretins don't realise, or care, that their club will end up paying the repair bill.

I do agree that it was stupid of Dundalk not to anticipate this. Rovers fans did the same deliberate act of vandalism earlier in the season. It should have been no surprise that they would do it again.

[Asterix]

People have their phones out to record the atmosphere before a match all the time ffs. A flammable pitch shouldn't be allowed in the league any. The fai need to get strict with the ground licences and make dundalk do serious upgrades to that kip.

[Asterix]

If it was a grass pitch no body would be talking about it, dundalk threw flares on the pitch at the cup final last year no one made a big deal over it, but do anything to dundalks astro and its the crime of the century.

[White Horse]

People have their phones out to record the atmosphere before a match all the time ffs. A flammable pitch shouldn't be allowed in the league any. The fai need to get strict with the ground licences and make dundalk do serious upgrades to that kip.

Isn't there a Facebook page for idiots like you.

[nigel-harps1954]

People have their phones out to record the atmosphere before a match all the time ffs. A flammable pitch shouldn't be allowed in the league any. The fai need to get strict with the ground licences and make dundalk do serious upgrades to that kip.


If it was a grass pitch no body would be talking about it, dundalk threw flares on the pitch at the cup final last year no one made a big deal over it, but do anything to dundalks astro and its the crime of the century.

I'm sorry, but are you seriously trying to justify this? Were you perhaps the tit who threw the flare onto the pitch?

[Asterix]

Yeah because I said people recorded pre match atmosphere dosn't mean they planned to cause damage to the pitch and that if it was a grass once no one would be talking about it, Im the one who threw it. A pitch that goes on fire so easily shouldn't be allowed, you need to have fire certs to get flags into stadiums these days ffs.

[nigel-harps1954]

Yeah because I said people recorded pre match atmosphere dosn't mean they planned to cause damage to the pitch and that if it was a grass once no one would be talking about it, Im the one who threw it. A pitch that goes on fire so easily shouldn't be allowed, you need to have fire certs to get flags into stadiums these days ffs.

I'm struggling to get my head around this level of ridiculousness.

[mcgonigle]

I'm struggling to get my head around this level of ridiculousness.

I wouldn't waste your time, these guys are on a different wavelength and will come up with all types of nonsense to condone their behaviour.

[Nesta99]

The pitch is fire resistant so shows how hot those flares burn - seriously dangerous.

[bluewhitearmy]

Where is the they did it with the intention of burning the pitch coming from though? Have they come out and said that? Flares get thrown on the pitch all the time I've seen it loads of times when they have been set off.

[osarusan]

It's hard not to be aware of the impact that the concentrated, searing heat of a flare will have on a synthetic substance like artificial turf.

The question of whether it was done to cause damage is one thing, but whoever threw it could hardly claim they never imagined it would cause damage.

[Asterix]

It's not the first time a flare has been thrown on the pitch and rovers aren't the only ones that have done it, dundalk do it themselves. Seams like just because it's dundalk precious astro that this time is worse than others.

[Philosophizer]

It's hard not to be aware of the impact that the concentrated, searing heat of a flare will have on a synthetic substance like artificial turf.

The question of whether it was done to cause damage is one thing, but whoever threw it could hardly claim they never imagined it would cause damage.

Lads, this thread is for ground updates/redevelopments. The last page and a half has been about the flare thrown in Oriel last weekend.

I know it burnt part of the artificial surface but it's not really relevant. That topic is probably more suitable for a separate thread about the weekend's fixtures.

[DannyInvincible]

'New 3,700 capacity Brandywell taking shape and on schedule for completion by end of the year': http://www.derryjournal.com/news/new-3-700-capacity-brandywell-taking-shape-and-on-schedule-for-completion-by-end-of-the-year-1-8192055


https://res.cloudinary.com/jpress/image/fetch/w_700,f_auto,ar_3:2,c_fill/http://www.derryjournal.com/webimage/1.8192053.1507728718!/image/image.jpg

The Mayor of Derry, Councillor Maolíosa McHugh has said he’s looking forward to the completion of the new 3,700 capacity Brandywell in time for the 2018 League of Ireland season kick off next spring. The Mayor said: “The Council acknowledges the importance of the Brandywell as a Council asset and this investment will help us to maximise its usage and its potential in terms of sport and event provision for the future.” He was speaking as progress on one of Derry City and Strabane District Council’s most significant infrastructural capital investment projects, the Brandywell Regeneration Project, continues apace. The contractor, McAleer and Teague, hopes to complete the development by the end of the year. The Mayor said the project was a key investment not only for soccer and greyhound racing but for the wider sports fraternity and the local community.

A new 955 seater stand that incorporates new changing rooms, media facilities, meeting spaces and safety control centre is now almost complete. Standing accommodation for 270 spectators adjoining the new stand twill bring the existing capacity for the ground to approximately 3,700. In addition to the stand, the project includes a synthetic turf pitch, a standalone dog track, the refurbishment of the south-end stand and additional car parking as well as substantial improvement works across the stadium, including the replacement of the existing boundary walls to the wider Brandywell site.

It is hoped the new facility will be ready to host some of Derry City Football Club’s preseason games for the 2018 League of Ireland season and the construction of the greyhound track in the Showgrounds section of the ground is also at an advanced stage with a view to being completed by the end of the year.

[Nesta99]

I expected the stand to be shallower with a greater elevation. That's some roof and another two wings to that in due course in will be the most impressive looking in the league. It would have to be a more expensive way of doing a stand development thugh?

[oriel]

That 955 seater new stand would be a perfect addition for behind the town end goal in Oriel Park, it looks great !

[legendz]

I took in a Sturm Graz game during a trip to Austria last month. About 10,000 attended the game in their 15,000 capacity stadium. The atmosphere was great. They have those rail seatings behind one of the goals.

My host felt a need to explain beforehand that the standard would not be like Germany or England! I could only show a picture of Tallaght Stadium to communicate the level football is at here in terms of facilities first of all.

Graz's opponents on the night were Altach. I think Cork City and Dundalk would have given both a good game.

The game itself petered out in a scoreless draw after Graz had a man sent off for a second yellow card before half time.

Supporters are allowed drink beer in the Stadia over there. People are going around selling beer as people do ice-creams at GAA games during the summer.

Graz and Cork would have a similar enough population size. Cork doesn't have any other professional sports team in the city. It had me pondering is it achievable for Cork in 10 to 15 years to expand their support base to about 10,000 or more? It's possibly the most achievable for leading clubs in reasonably sized urban areas.

[nr637]

Typical stadium build here again, one big stand and nothing else to surround the pitch, I always thought football stadiums had four sides, we seem to be happy with a project that offers one or two stands on each side with nothing behind the goals. The promise to add further structures never really happen and we end up with stadi like we have that offer nothing to the real football fans. Is it a case of just accepting the design what is offered and keep the mouth shut!

[Nesta99]

Tbf it is more the case in the larger and wealthier leagues where 4 sides are always enclosed. If you look at sides outside of the top 3 or 4 across the likes of Croatia, Poland, Iceland, Lux and the like, there are many grounds that just have one decent stand. We are obviously influenced by what we see on offer in England and Scotland and that is our benchmark - nothing wrong with that either.