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disgruntled
19/10/2015, 11:45 AM
Brandywell redevelopment could prove ‘disastrous’ for Derry City - claims Chairman
http://www.derryjournal.com/news/brandywell-redevelopment-could-prove-disastrous-for-derry-city-claims-chairman-1-7017782
Why am I not surprised.
After all it will be difficult to get over those mountains of red tape.:rolleyes:
disgruntled
19/10/2015, 11:46 AM
Again he mentions playing in Ballybofey. Clearly just a scare tactic, but he could do FHFC the courtesy of a letter or email on the topic if he's going to keep mentioning it.
Why is it a scare tactic ?
I don't think he really believes they will end up asking us to accommodate them. There are other options that make more sense such as Institute and Maginn. I think he is using the prospect to try to put pressure on the council to move quicker. Whether that's a good move is another question.
Candystripe
19/10/2015, 1:40 PM
I don't think he really believes they will end up asking us to accommodate them. There are other options that make more sense such as Institute and Maginn. I think he is using the prospect to try to put pressure on the council to move quicker. Whether that's a good move is another question.
Institute would make more sense. Probably just swap our 1st 3 home game's away from home would sort it anyway.
The pitch will be tight to the existing stand so the curved ends should be a better view than currently.
disgruntled
19/10/2015, 10:39 PM
I don't think he really believes they will end up asking us to accommodate them. There are other options that make more sense such as Institute and Maginn. I think he is using the prospect to try to put pressure on the council to move quicker. Whether that's a good move is another question.
It would take more than that to move a council :rolleyes:
All the consultation is probably to decide which blazer gets to cut the tape at the opening ceremony.
pateen
21/10/2015, 1:15 PM
"Elsewhere, Shamrock Rovers' Tallaght Stadium home is on course to expand to a 8,500-capacity venue in 2017 after South Dublin County Council allocated a further €250,000 towards the construction of a third stand."
From The Irish Indo
Great news for Tallaght, Shamrock R and the League.
Is it me or does 250K for a new stand behind the goal seem cheap. Will it be covered?
nigel-harps1954
21/10/2015, 1:23 PM
"Elsewhere, Shamrock Rovers' Tallaght Stadium home is on course to expand to a 8,500-capacity venue in 2017 after South Dublin County Council allocated a further €250,000 towards the construction of a third stand."
From The Irish Indo
Great news for Tallaght, Shamrock R and the League.
Is it me or does 250K for a new stand behind the goal seem cheap. Will it be covered?
250k is only part of the finance. There's apparently 500k already there for it.
Lukejennings99
01/11/2015, 11:55 AM
Tallaght is getting a north stand
Dalymount is becoming a 10000 seater stadium
Dundalk and Drogheda might be building new stadiums
Brandywell is getting done up along with Finn park
What Else?
It's all talk & rumours............nothing concrete!
:confused:
White Horse
02/11/2015, 2:05 PM
Dundalk and Drogheda might be building new stadiums
I head some speculation of the FAI selling United Park to fund a big new 10,000 all seater regional stadium for the North East at DKIT. However, nothing concrete as of yet.
Dalymountrower
02/11/2015, 2:39 PM
"Elsewhere, Shamrock Rovers' Tallaght Stadium home is on course to expand to a 8,500-capacity venue in 2017 after South Dublin County Council allocated a further €250,000 towards the construction of a third stand."
From The Irish Indo
Great news for Tallaght, Shamrock R and the League.
Is it me or does 250K for a new stand behind the goal seem cheap. Will it be covered?
Yep, fair play to SDCC, should reduce the wind tunnel effect. Will look great when all four sides are filled in. When are Pats moving there?
Some positive announcement this week apparently from Bohs/DCC on Dalymount
White Horse
02/11/2015, 8:57 PM
When Tallaght is complete, or indeed the 10,000 redeveloped Dalymount, they'd be better hosts for the FAI Cup final.
The Aviva is fine as it goes, but a full to capacity 10,000 seater would look better as a spectacle than a 2/3 empty Aviva.
Not when Dundalk are in the final.
placid casual
02/11/2015, 9:32 PM
Correct me if im wrong but the Aviva holds about 40k. There won't be many more than 16-17 thousand at the game on Sunday.
Charlie Darwin
02/11/2015, 9:35 PM
Aviva holds about 52,000. They closed the top tier last year as far as I remember.
Acornvilla
02/11/2015, 9:47 PM
I'd hate it being moved to a smaller ground to be honest. A match at the Aviva might be a once in a life time experience for a lot of players, it's a great day out for everyone, and a crowd of 18k in a 52k seater is still 8k extra paying customers who want to see live football, who couldn't go to the final otherwise. I don't see why it'd be preferable to get in the way of that.
White Horse
02/11/2015, 10:26 PM
Aviva holds about 52,000. They closed the top tier last year as far as I remember.
Not this year, upper east stand tickets now on sale in Oriel Park.
Top tier hasn't been closed for the past 2 cup finals
I'd hate it being moved to a smaller ground to be honest. A match at the Aviva might be a once in a life time experience for a lot of players, it's a great day out for everyone, and a crowd of 18k in a 52k seater is still 8k extra paying customers who want to see live football, who couldn't go to the final otherwise. I don't see why it'd be preferable to get in the way of that.
You only have to look at the crowds for the Tolka finals. Plenty of empty seats for the Derry v Rovers final there (2 well supported teams). The same final would be double that crowd in the Aviva (at least). It absolutely makes it more of an occasion playing it in the Aviva, and that should be encouraged at every opportunity
Markets Field
Looking at the highlights last nite, the Markets Field looked very well and I know a big crowd and atmosphere helps, but the need for the renovation to continue must surely have been highlighted. The need for at least terracing on the far side opposite the Main Stand to help ease the crowd congestion. On entering the ground the option of a seat or a terrace view is the best option for crowd control.
Hopefully it will be added for next season, anyone know if its in the future plans!
nigel-harps1954
03/11/2015, 9:10 AM
Markets Field is a lovely ground, but it's got a long way to go before it's any way finished. Blocks of toilets, proper turnstiles and tarmac surface around the away end would be priority before any more terracing installed.
Interesting to see the EU are taking an interest in the vast amount of state aid being pumped into the GAA. The govt are contributing 25m+ into redeveloping Pairc Ui Chaoimh. That's TWENTY FIVE MILLION EURO, folks, for one stadium for the esteemed "amateur" association.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2015/1101/738913-cork-insist-pairc-ui-chaoimh-grant-within-rules/
White Horse
03/11/2015, 10:04 AM
Interesting to see the EU are taking an interest in the vast amount of state aid being pumped into the GAA. The govt are contributing 25m+ into redeveloping Pairc Ui Chaoimh. That's TWENTY FIVE MILLION EURO, folks, for one stadium for the esteemed "amateur" association.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2015/1101/738913-cork-insist-pairc-ui-chaoimh-grant-within-rules/
An organisation that treats it's workers (the players) as unpaid slaves.
nr637
03/11/2015, 11:24 AM
An organisation that treats it's workers (the players) as unpaid slaves.
Just imagine the govt contributing 25m+ into redeveloping league club grounds, think of all the basic improvements such as toilet, turnstile, terrace and various other extras that could be added to all the league grounds to bring them up to some better facility and attractive for fans.
I'm wishing on a star..............!:star:
gufcfan
03/11/2015, 1:26 PM
Just imagine the govt contributing 25m+ into redeveloping league club grounds
The GAA would lead an armed coup against the government before that could ever happen.
osarusan
03/11/2015, 2:53 PM
The GAA would lead an armed coup against the government before that could ever happen.
The GAA would be well prepared too - they've been in training for years.
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/9/99/TWTSTB-hurley.png/600px-TWTSTB-hurley.png
Correct me if im wrong but the Aviva holds about 40k. There won't be many more than 16-17 thousand at the game on Sunday.
Its 52k, and where are you basing the 16-17k figure on? Dundalk will sell close to 10k, and Cork will probably take over 12k, add in some neutral and others and it might get to 25k I would say.
Jofspring
03/11/2015, 5:43 PM
Interesting to see the EU are taking an interest in the vast amount of state aid being pumped into the GAA. The govt are contributing 25m+ into redeveloping Pairc Ui Chaoimh. That's TWENTY FIVE MILLION EURO, folks, for one stadium for the esteemed "amateur" association.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2015/1101/738913-cork-insist-pairc-ui-chaoimh-grant-within-rules/
Absolutely mental amount of money to give to one county ground.
As mentioned that kind of money could see serious improvements across the country in football. You could be talking the bones of €2m+ per club towards facility improvements.
Charlie Darwin
03/11/2015, 5:44 PM
Pairc Ui Caoimh doesn't even need to be upgraded. They already have three big grounds in Munster that the government has spunked millions on.
Jofspring
03/11/2015, 5:47 PM
Pairc Ui Caoimh doesn't even need to be upgraded. They already have three big grounds in Munster that the government has spunked millions on.
It definitely needs to be upgraded but certainly not to the tune of €70m.
Thomond Park cost €40m to completely re-build. Are they building Croke Park part 2 in Cork or something.
Charlie Darwin
03/11/2015, 5:53 PM
It definitely needs to be upgraded but certainly not to the tune of €70m.
Thomond Park cost €40m to completely re-build. Are they building Croke Park part 2 in Cork or something.
Sorry, I didn't mean the stadium couldn't use renovation, I meant the GAA already have three 40,000-seater stadiums in Munster, two of which they barely use, and there's no justification for spending €70m of taxpayer's money on another.
Jofspring
03/11/2015, 5:56 PM
Sorry, I didn't mean the stadium couldn't use renovation, I meant the GAA already have three 40,000-seater stadiums in Munster, two of which they barely use, and there's no justification for spending €70m of taxpayer's money on another.
Ya absolutely mental. I live across the road from the Gaelic Grounds and it has only been close to filled around 4 times since it was re-built. Complete waste of money.
Charlie Darwin
03/11/2015, 6:16 PM
Ya absolutely mental. I live across the road from the Gaelic Grounds and it has only been close to filled around 4 times since it was re-built. Complete waste of money.
Fair play to them for getting away with it for so long. Maybe one day we can talk about football clubs eating up grants, although unlike GAA it'd be actionable under competition law.
Dalymountrower
03/11/2015, 8:28 PM
The GAA can morph into a cultural/heritage mode at will and dip their beak into whatever taxpayer trough is doling out public funds.The fact that an Ard Comhairle/Polibeureau sanction is required for any other sport to use these publicly funded facilities, is a sectarian disgrace ( except if your team is a US armed forces/elite white US university American football team)
SalvadorSanchez
04/11/2015, 2:36 PM
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/phibsboro-shopping-centre-for-15m-1.2407351
According to IT article, the shopping centre at Dalymount is going up for sale, big deal but the article says that the lot includes the Tramway end of the ground.... Can Bohs and the Council redevelop Dalymount properly if the tramway end is a Tesco or a Costa Coffee?
Kingdom
04/11/2015, 3:54 PM
Is the secondary site the car park beside the Des Kelly and behind the Connaught? I thought Bohs owned that?
If the tramway end, and the car park are gone, how will they have space to develop into a 10k facility?
The Donie Forde
04/11/2015, 5:58 PM
Pairc Ui Caoimh doesn't even need to be upgraded. They already have three big grounds in Munster that the government has spunked millions on.
Well, it does now, as it's been half demolished.
Plenty of strokes pulled to get the €30 mill, as you'd expect.
Plenty of strokes pulled to get the nearby land for a song from Cork City Council before that.
Cork is a completely GAA-dominated town, people often forget that if they read about big crowds at Turner's Cross and so on. It's a constant struggle to keep League of Ireland football alive in the city/county, despite the population argument.
http://www.derryjournal.com/news/brandywell-redevelopment-given-go-ahead-by-council-1-7049017
So the news we have finally been waiting for, all is agreed. Dog track moving to showgrounds. Pitch will be moved closer to current seated stand and levelled (currently a 7ft slop from one end of pitch to other) and will be a 3G pitch. Lone Moor Side to be totally demolished with new stand, changing rooms, corporate facilities, media room all included. Outer perimeter wall to be demolished whole way round ground and replaced.
For away fans, the view will be alot better. Because of the slope from one side of the ground to the other, the away end has a poor view. When its levelled off it will have a far better view. Great news finally for us
gufcfan
04/11/2015, 8:36 PM
"The existing grass pitch will be replaced with a 3G football surface".
Longfordian
04/11/2015, 8:49 PM
Well Dundalk are the best team in the league because of their pitch
jinxy lilywhite
04/11/2015, 10:30 PM
Well Dundalk are the best team in the league because of their pitch
Our away record says otherwise
Yossarian
04/11/2015, 10:45 PM
Our away record says otherwise
Switch that sarcasm detector back on will ya.
nigel-harps1954
04/11/2015, 10:51 PM
The Brandywell will be a great little stadium once that's all completed. It'll be relatively enclosed despite only being two stands as once the pitch goes in tight to the current seated stand, the two ends will almost wrap around the corner of the pitch and you'll have away fans not too far off behind the goals.
If they can work in some added terracing to connect up the two stands then you'd have a deadly ground. Finally, away fans will be able to watch a match there without second guessing everything that's happening.
Would love to see the cost-benefit analysis for the 30m state investment, never mind the many 20,000-30,000 capacity county grounds around the country that will be filled once a year if they're lucky
Charlie Darwin
05/11/2015, 10:57 AM
Would love to see the cost-benefit analysis for the 30m state investment, never mind the many 20,000-30,000 capacity county grounds around the country that will be filled once a year if they're lucky
Why bother doing a cost-benefit when you'll get the money anyway?
WeAreRovers
05/11/2015, 2:26 PM
http://www.wdr-rt-taggart.com/HTML/Masterplanning/Bray/Bray-3.html
nigel-harps1954
05/11/2015, 3:25 PM
http://www.wdr-rt-taggart.com/HTML/Masterplanning/Bray/Bray-3.html
What the....?
Three of those stands are two-tiered. Are Bray looking at a 20,000 seater ground?
Longfordian
05/11/2015, 3:42 PM
The (Greater) Dublin Seagulls FC?
citybone
06/11/2015, 3:45 AM
Wouldn't be as cold as it would be totally enclosed. I beleive this would be more suitable https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirelli_Stadium
Pablo Escobar
06/11/2015, 5:34 AM
Would love to see the cost-benefit analysis for the 30m state investment, never mind the many 20,000-30,000 capacity county grounds around the country that will be filled once a year if they're lucky
They got awarded the money first and then got asked for a cost benefit analysis, in that order, as far as I'm aware. There's no way that the figures stack up.
Couch Potato
06/11/2015, 8:01 AM
http://www.wdr-rt-taggart.com/HTML/Masterplanning/Bray/Bray-3.html
Had heard rumours of Bray trying to sign Sean Hoare and totally dismissed it, in fact I laughed at the person who told me but the latest seems to be there will be an injection of cash and these plans would seem to tie into that, interesting times ahead for Bray perhaps
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