Stadium Updates (All Clubs)

[Mr A]

Basically the delay has been due to the grinding pace of Irish bureaucracy and the complication inherent in a project involving a large number of stakeholders.

[Bawnville Hoop]

im not actually, one of the guys who owns ticketscan told us 450 fans came through the St. Annes end. The St Annes end is the away end

Once again a load of crap. I had a complimentary ticket for the home end. Had 'enter via St.Annes/Currag RD', this is where the Rovers fans entered through.
No colours on me and I even went in to the jacks in your stand before going in to the away section.

[citybone]

I've a two part rebuttal to this nonsense.

1) It's completely untrue.

2) The incident to which you are referring was actually instigated by a group of ~20 Cork fans who came the entire length of the ground to start a row.

Stop trying to excuse your club's despicable treatment of paying customers.
1)Im not saying there is decent facilities behind the St. Annes now but that there should be, should not bee too hard to do it other than the actual cost. There could have been a few more portaloo's rented when a large crowd was expected but there wasn't and that can be fixed for future games.

2)Yes there was city fans involved too but i dont wanna get into what happened like 8 or 9 years ago, what i am saying is that, away fans are segregated more since that incident. At least there was no trouble in the ground on Friday due to the large segregation and there was enough seats for your fans Friday night. I even seen empty seats in the front corner on MNS. Rovers fans are just whingers.

Permanent toilet facilities and maybe permanent food facilities behind the St. Annes will be in the next stage of development in Turners Cross but funding for it will be hard to get till then Portaloo's will have to do but we will try to rent more when we are expecting a big away crowd. but according to http://www.centraltoilethire.co.uk/eventToilets/index.php 3 or 4 portaloo's would have done.

[bullit]

but according to http://www.centraltoilethire.co.uk/eventToilets/index.php 3 or 4 portaloo's would have done.


Notes: If alcoholic beverages are served, increase the number of units by 13%. If the percentage of women in attendance increases beyond 50%, increase the number of units by that same percentage.

LOI people always complain about toilets and load's of other things about the "away side".
More especially when the fancied away side fall to an away loss or draw, then the exaggeration of the fact's are multiplied by 10,000%.
Pass no remarks is my call and i'm hardly a lover of the great shlop that they call Sham's.

[nigel-harps1954]

Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is taking so long with Finn Harps' new stadium? I'm sure I read somewhere that funding was already in place, so why the 2/3 year delay?


EDIT: I have no idea what I was talking about. Drink and foot.ie don't mix.

[El-Pietro]

Once again a load of crap. I had a complimentary ticket for the home end. Had 'enter via St.Annes/Currag RD', this is where the Rovers fans entered through.
No colours on me and I even went in to the jacks in your stand before going in to the away section.
didn't even pay to get in? well then ive no sympathy for you

[Sonny]

1)
2)Yes there was city fans involved too but i dont wanna get into what happened like 8 or 9 years ago, what i am saying is that, away fans are segregated more since that incident. At least there was no trouble in the ground on Friday due to the large segregation and there was enough seats for your fans Friday night. I even seen empty seats in the front corner on MNS. Rovers fans are just whingers.



That incident did not change the segregation procedures for away fans because we were housed in the main stand the next time we were down there. You can waffle all you want, and cite all the dodgy sources you want, 2 portaloos for 500 people is inhuman, and people missed large portions of the game because of the queues.


LOI people always complain about toilets and load's of other things about the "away side"

That's because Oriel is a dilapidated, stone age kip that's unfit for housing rats let alone football fans.

[bullit]

That's because Oriel is a dilapidated, stone age kip that's unfit for housing rats let alone football fans.

Class as always,pure class.Here is my retort: We haven't got a County Council or a MFA to give us a ground so we make do.
That's a classy retort to a classy poster like you if you ask moi.

[Pablo Escobar]

Wasn't going to respond to this originally, but whats worse than the actual fact of how badly the Shamrock Rovers fans were treated, and the lack of facilities there, is the response from the Cork fans. Would have expected more from you lot, the whole thing is nothing short of a shambles.

As far as I can see only 2 city fans responded, with 1 agreeing with the original point.........all of the Harps fans are the same.........see what I mean!?

On the topic, yes it's a disgrace, but this is where we are. The plans are to put toilet facilities at the back of the stand and the frame is in place. It is something we need to look at, but the only improvement I can suggest short-term is more portaloo's. But yes, we need to find a definite solution.

[Louth4sam]

Class as always,pure class.Here is my retort: We haven't got a County Council or a MFA to give us a ground so we make do.
That's a classy retort to a classy poster like you if you ask moi.

You forgot run up a seven figure debt and then completely milk the taxpayer.

[Sonny]

so we make do.



That's fine, but how can you turn around and bemoan away fans whinging about the state of away sections? Oriel's away section is uncovered, with a terrible view, horrendous, rusty seating, loose gravel, no lighting, portacabin toilets that are always blocked and smell vile, and the back of the terrace appears to be some kind of dump or scrap metal yard.

It's no surprise at all that away fans would raise complaints, and tbh, it wouldn't cost very much to at least make the section moderately safe for human use.

[bullit]

That's fine, but how can you turn around and bemoan away fans whinging about the state of away sections? Oriel's away section is uncovered, with a terrible view, horrendous, rusty seating, loose gravel, no lighting, portacabin toilets that are always blocked and smell vile, and the back of the terrace appears to be some kind of dump or scrap metal yard.

It's no surprise at all that away fans would raise complaints, and tbh, it wouldn't cost very much to at least make the section moderately safe for human use.

Sit in the Human safe stand for €15 then and shut-up with the moans and stop with the over reacting missus.

[L.T.F.C.]

I find it funny that at no matter what ground there is a problem, there is always a pregnant woman, about to pop, sitting out in the cold and wet, and a steward wouldn't let her around to even get a cup of tea!
Weeehhhhhhhhhhhh!

[Sonny]

Sit in the Human safe stand for €15 then and shut-up with the moans and stop with the over reacting missus.


I'd rather not pay more to get pelted with bottles for the entire game, thanks pal.

[bullit]

I'd rather not pay more to get pelted with bottles for the entire game, thanks pal.

Jaysus wept !! Good luck Sonny.

[Sonny]

Jaysus wept !! Good luck Sonny.

If he ever visited Oriel, he would have definitely given the whole saving the human race idea a rethink.

[sundance kid]

If you don't like the facilities don't give them your money, end of story.
I've had my car smashed up in dundalk, and the facilities are crap, so i don't give them my custom anymore. There's no view from the terrace in drogheda, so they don't get my custom unless i can get a stand ticket. After friday in cork, i won't be back until i hear that their facilities for away fans have improved. And i doubt i'll ever go back to derry until i hear they've some sort of liaison in place with the police to help away fans to safely depart the area. If you're willing to let these clubs continually treat you like a second class citizen, you can't complain when it happens.

[razor]

Holding our hands up and saying 2 portaloos for that many people is inhumane (even for Rovers)
We haven't had that sizeable an away crowd for a good few years but it should have been expected.

and credit must go to those Rovers fans who lightened the load on those portaloos by using the streets of Turners Cross instead.

[bullit]

If you don't like the facilities don't give them your money, end of story.
I've had my car smashed up in dundalk, and the facilities are crap, so i don't give them my custom anymore. There's no view from the terrace in drogheda, so they don't get my custom unless i can get a stand ticket. After friday in cork, i won't be back until i hear that their facilities for away fans have improved. And i doubt i'll ever go back to derry until i hear they've some sort of liaison in place with the police to help away fans to safely depart the area. If you're willing to let these clubs continually treat you like a second class citizen, you can't complain when it happens.

Car smashed in Dundalk, was that all?

Last time i went to talla me & me mates got our faces busted but look hey let's not get stuff mixed up here ;)

[Charlie Darwin]

Permanent toilet facilities and maybe permanent food facilities behind the St. Annes will be in the next stage of development in Turners Cross but funding for it will be hard to get till then Portaloo's will have to do but we will try to rent more when we are expecting a big away crowd. but according to http://www.centraltoilethire.co.uk/eventToilets/index.php 3 or 4 portaloo's would have done.
Yeah but only having 1/2 or even 2/3 of the required toilets is still a big failure.

[askmehoop]

Holding our hands up and saying 2 portaloos for that many people is inhumane (even for Rovers)
We haven't had that sizeable an away crowd for a good few years but it should have been expected.

and credit must go to those Rovers fans who lightened the load on those portaloos by using the streets of Turners Cross instead.


Like it doesnt happen in cork every weekend, get a f**kin grip.

Your clubs failure to supply proper facilities has been highlighted and all you can do is blame Rovers fans for this and that, instead of taking on board the criticisms and dealing with it. Pathetic.

[Dave_SRFC]

Like it doesnt happen in cork every weekend, get a f**kin grip.

Your clubs failure to supply proper facilities has been highlighted and all you can do is blame Rovers fans for this and that, instead of taking on board the criticisms and dealing with it. Pathetic.

Yeah get a grip Cork deal with it and stop being pathetic...

[nosebleds]

Like it doesnt happen in cork every weekend, get a f**kin grip.

Your clubs failure to supply proper facilities has been highlighted and all you can do is blame Rovers fans for this and that, instead of taking on board the criticisms and dealing with it. Pathetic. forget about shams wait till silgo comes to town

[dong]

So there it is. Nobody has proper facilities except for SDCC sportsground.
Any wonder people decide to use buses instead wha?

[razor]

Like it doesnt happen in cork every weekend, get a f**kin grip.It might happen in the city centre at 2 in the morning but it doesn't happen in the streets of Turners Cross in the early evening with young children about.
Just making the point that not all Rovers fans have problems with having nowhere to urinate.


Your clubs failure to supply proper facilities has been highlighted and all you can do is blame Rovers fans for this and that, instead of taking on board the criticisms and dealing with it. Pathetic.
I already stated in my first post that we should have had more facilities available, this has been brought to the attention of the Board and the match night committee.

[L.T.F.C.]

it might happen in the city centre at 2 in the morning but it doesn't happen in the streets of turners cross in the early evening with young children about.

not young children!

[peadar1987]

So the planned stadium developments are to install weekly car-vandalism in Dundalk, a GBH area in Tallaght, and a urine moat in Cork?

Our league will be the envy of clubs from Tirana to Karagandy!

[nosebleds]

So the planned stadium developments are to install weekly car-vandalism in Dundalk, a GBH area in Tallaght, and a urine moat in Cork?

Our league will be the envy of clubs from Tirana to Karagandy!

u forgot toiletrolls for all buses traveling to the showgrounds in silgo

[gormacha]

Didn't think it justified a new thread, but was wondering what the state of pitches is like around the country? There's been a lot of negative comments about pitches over the last couple of weeks in the media, and from LoI fans and players on twitter and elsewhere.

What's your honest appraisal of your club's pitch?

The RSC is in great nick. This time last season it was a bit dodgy, but improved throughout the year. This season its been spot on right from the start. A pleasure to play on.

I've been at Turners Cross and Ferrycarrig Park recently - the Cross is also in great nick. Ferrycarrig Park less so, but of reasonable, if not great, standard.

[Macy]

Didn't think it justified a new thread, but was wondering what the state of pitches is like around the country? There's been a lot of negative comments about pitches over the last couple of weeks in the media, and from LoI fans and players on twitter and elsewhere.

What's your honest appraisal of your club's pitch?

The RSC is in great nick. This time last season it was a bit dodgy, but improved throughout the year. This season its been spot on right from the start. A pleasure to play on.
Ours is a bit bobbly. but it's alright. Grass has been growing a bit earlier this year, so they should be on a bit. However, to a degree it's a consequence of a summer season meaning that major pitch work has to be done in winter. Hard to believe I know, as we were told summer football equalled better pitches, which in turn equalled better standard of football.

[Dodge]

Dublin pitches suffered as a result of those flood a while back. I know ours was soggy up until a couple of weeks ago. Not bad now

Dalymount was poor yesterday. Seemed dry and bumpy. I believe Bohs train on it too. Lest I be accused of sour grapes, the pitch didn't effect the result

[gormacha]

... double post

[El-Pietro]

Turners Cross won pitch of the year last year and while its not at the same standard it was in the middle and end of last season its in great condition, should improve over the summer with good weather and fewer games.

We've been to UCD - shocking shocking surface - and Derry - not much better - though thats more than just the surface - there is apparently (according to brendyeire) a 2m difference between the level of the two corner flags down the home end (severe dip on the stand side) and you are playing up hill as you approach the other end

[mcgonigle]

Ours is still flat as you like, but apparently rubbish!:confused:

[nigel-harps1954]

Ours is very bumpy. In pretty good nick considering how bad it was just a few weeks ago but still very bumpy.

[John83]

Turners Cross won pitch of the year last year and while its not at the same standard it was in the middle and end of last season its in great condition, should improve over the summer with good weather and fewer games.

We've been to UCD - shocking shocking surface...
Yes, it stays that way until the rugby season ends. Our results usually make a sharp uptick around then too for some reason.

[ger121]

Dalymount has probably one of its worst pitches in years. Very bumpy due to lack of rain but also too many games due to U19s playing there and the squad training on it.

[gormacha]

Dalymount has probably one of its worst pitches in years. Very bumpy due to lack of rain but also too many games due to U19s playing there and the squad training on it.

I take it that's down to resources, or lack thereof?

[ger121]

I take it that's down to resources, or lack thereof?

You would be correct. Gone are the days of training up in DCU.

[horton]

Turners Cross won pitch of the year last year and while its not at the same standard it was in the middle and end of last season its in great condition, should improve over the summer with good weather and fewer games.

We've been to UCD - shocking shocking surface - and Derry - not much better - though thats more than just the surface - there is apparently (according to brendyeire) a 2m difference between the level of the two corner flags down the home end (severe dip on the stand side) and you are playing up hill as you approach the other end
Yup, sadly that's true, gives us an advantage though;)

[gormacha]

Judging from MNS, Gortakeegan looks like a pudding. Anyone closer to the action got a view?

[L.T.F.C.]

Just heard on the news that a new €30 million grant scheme has been made available to sports-clubs countrywide.

[MagicMon]

Judging from MNS, Gortakeegan looks like a pudding. Anyone closer to the action got a view?

Its getting better (from being in very bad condition). The good weather will help the grass to grow, so I'd predict that it will be much improved by the Drogheda game. Dodge makes a good point about the floods, the middle of Monaghan was underwater at the end of last season, by which time it was already in a bad state, and there hasn't been any growth until now for the pitch to recover.

[Mr A]

Just heard on the news that a new €30 million grant scheme has been made available to sports-clubs countrywide.

http://www.fai.ie/football-services-a-education/facilities/102445-new-round-of-sports-capital-programme-announced.html

Focus is on participation so not sure how much that will help LOI clubs with their grounds and deadline is June 1st!

[gufcfan]

Just heard on the news that a new €30 million grant scheme has been made available to sports-clubs countrywide.
Might help if grants that were already promised were paid out first.

[nigel-harps1954]

Brandywell given the green light for massive over-haul. 5,100 seat stadium on the way for Derry. To be honest, I think they should be looking at another 2,000 seats at least.

http://www.newswireni.com/content/council-gives-green-light-%C2%A3103m-brandywell-stadium-overhaul

[brendy_éire]

Brandywell given the green light for massive over-haul. 5,100 seat stadium on the way for Derry. To be honest, I think they should be looking at another 2,000 seats at least.

http://www.newswireni.com/content/council-gives-green-light-%C2%A3103m-brandywell-stadium-overhaul

Nah, we don't need anything bigger than that. I'd be delighted with a 5000 seater ground. Plus, it could do for outside gigs and the like.

It's another step forward in the slow process of getting the ground sorted though, so all good.
For those interested, here's what the Brandywell stadium will hopefully look like in the wider redevelopment of the Brandywell/Bishop Street area. http://www.paulhogarth.com/newsblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/FVG-Draft-Masterplan-Boards_WEB_Board3-copy.jpg

[peadar1987]

Nah, we don't need anything bigger than that. I'd be delighted with a 5000 seater ground. Plus, it could do for outside gigs and the like.

It's another step forward in the slow process of getting the ground sorted though, so all good.
For those interested, here's what the Brandywell stadium will hopefully look like in the wider redevelopment of the Brandywell/Bishop Street area. http://www.paulhogarth.com/newsblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/FVG-Draft-Masterplan-Boards_WEB_Board3-copy.jpg

Looks nice.

Is the plan for it initially to be a one-stand job like Tallaght was? Or am I misreading the description.

[A N Mouse]

Nah, we don't need anything bigger than that. I'd be delighted with a 5000 seater ground. Plus, it could do for outside gigs and the like.

It's another step forward in the slow process of getting the ground sorted though, so all good.
For those interested, here's what the Brandywell stadium will hopefully look like in the wider redevelopment of the Brandywell/Bishop Street area. http://www.paulhogarth.com/newsblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/FVG-Draft-Masterplan-Boards_WEB_Board3-copy.jpg

Yeah, any more details Brendy?

That article is slightly confusing, and drawing a blanks on google.

I thought current crumbling mess could meet category 2 requirements (at a stretch). And while may be difficult to meet other criteria, should be looking at category 4 requirements, or at least have one eye on them with an upgrade path in mind.

[horton]

Calling it slightly confusing is an understatement! Some of it makes no sense! I'd personally prefer they put the money towards building a better stadium out by Templemore. The local area can become gridlocked on normal match nights so bigger crowds in an already heavily built up residential area could be disastrous. Still, great news that the moneys there for improvements!