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Nah Nah Nah Nah
03/11/2024, 9:32 PM
16.4m for us. Great news.
https://x.com/frankfeighan/status/1853202792351244446?s=46&t=X_wthh81hc_IALu9TUBX1A
RealJohn91
03/11/2024, 9:41 PM
Great news for us and Sligo.
kksaints
03/11/2024, 9:59 PM
There's €2 million for Wexford FC also. It's number 34 in the list in the tweet in the 2nd photo.
ger121
03/11/2024, 10:08 PM
Who missed out?
Nah Nah Nah Nah
03/11/2024, 10:15 PM
Who missed out?
The FAI had listed eight clubs, including Drogheda United, Galway United, Shelbourne, Sligo Rovers and Treaty United, but only three will be supported in their stadia projects during this round.
Nah Nah Nah Nah
03/11/2024, 10:16 PM
There's €2 million for Wexford FC also. It's number 34 in the list in the tweet in the 2nd photo.
Yeah that wasn’t there when I posted
joey B
03/11/2024, 10:26 PM
Great for the clubs and hopefully the grounds are built as quickly as possible….
Shinkicker
04/11/2024, 6:33 AM
25m for Dalymount
https://x.com/alanfarrell/status/1853198015281959134?s=46&t=X_wthh81hc_IALu9TUBX1A
€25m is great for Bohs and Dalymount but I thought the bill was going to be nearer 40m. Am I missing something? Or is this seperate from DCC funding?
Another Bohemia
04/11/2024, 7:05 AM
€25m is great for Bohs and Dalymount but I thought the bill was going to be nearer 40m. Am I missing something? Or is this seperate from DCC funding?
This is a LSSIF grant. The max available to anyone was 30 million IIRC and it's a government grant rather than money from the council. So yeah they are 2 different pools afaik. Getting 25 million from it shows the amount of work out in by both Bohs and the Council. You'd imagine a load of government ministers will be all over this claiming credit for it in the run up to the election.
Shinkicker
04/11/2024, 7:52 AM
This is a LSSIF grant. The max available to anyone was 30 million IIRC and it's a government grant rather than money from the council. So yeah they are 2 different pools afaik. Getting 25 million from it shows the amount of work out in by both Bohs and the Council. You'd imagine a load of government ministers will be all over this claiming credit for it in the run up to the election.
Thanks for clarifying. They'll all claim claim it in some part but the shinners will swarm over this like they own it even though they weren't in power when the grant was allocated.
Glen Of Aherlow
04/11/2024, 8:42 AM
Thanks for clarifying. They'll all claim claim it in some part but the shinners will swarm over this like they own it even though they weren't in power when the grant was allocated.
Maybe Lambo & Co. will turn it down in protest at being awarded it by the imperialist lackeys in Govt .
Jack B
04/11/2024, 1:03 PM
Good stuff for the league as a whole, hopefully many other grounds can follow suit in some capacity.
It's an interesting one with Richmond, clearly something going on (or being attempted anyway) but the club are quite private about it since the whole Richmond Arena situation. Have seen/heard some talk of the pitch being rotated 90 degrees in the new plan but who knows at this stage.
pateen
04/11/2024, 1:05 PM
Great for the clubs and hopefully the grounds are built as quickly as possible….
Anything for Finn Harps?
Calcio Jack
04/11/2024, 1:13 PM
€650k allocated to SDCC towards updating the floodlights in Tallaght
Martinho II
04/11/2024, 1:14 PM
Anything for Finn Harps?
didnt hear a thing about Harps. Very surprised!
EatYerGreens
04/11/2024, 1:22 PM
They allow it in Dortmund, Celtic Park, Spurs stadium so I assume it's allowed now across the board
The first 2 clubs there are explained by the fact that UEFA did a pilot of it in Germany and Scotland. If Spurs have it then it must be approved fully now.
Does that mean the other €15 million is also secured? We're not going to end up with a half built stadium and scrambling for funding type situation?
joey B
04/11/2024, 1:50 PM
didnt hear a thing about Harps. Very surprised!
Anything for Finn Harps?
We’ve already been allocated grant money,it’s accessing it is the problem, if we can’t raise our part they could allocate 50 million and it wouldn’t matter a jot …..
2 Year Contract
04/11/2024, 2:13 PM
We’ve already been allocated grant money,it’s accessing it is the problem, if we can’t raise our part they could allocate 50 million and it wouldn’t matter a jot …..
I saw a quote from Thomas Byrne that there’s a ‘use it or lose it’ policy with this years grants and there’s a reserve list of grant requests (including Drogheda's stadium one) that will be allocated money if it isn’t used within a particular timeframe. Any idea if that use it or lose it policy applies to grants from previous years such as Harps one?
joey B
04/11/2024, 2:16 PM
I saw a quote from Thomas Byrne that there’s a ‘use it or lose it’ policy with this years grants and there’s a reserve list of grant requests (including Drogheda's stadium one) that will be allocated money if it isn’t used within a particular timeframe. Any idea if that use it or lose it policy applies to grants from previous years such as Harps one?
I’ve no idea but knowing our luck we’ll probably lose it and be back to square one…
I saw a quote from Thomas Byrne that there’s a ‘use it or lose it’ policy with this years grants and there’s a reserve list of grant requests (including Drogheda's stadium one) that will be allocated money if it isn’t used within a particular timeframe. Any idea if that use it or lose it policy applies to grants from previous years such as Harps one?
No he said that element is not retropective
Nesta99
04/11/2024, 3:41 PM
There was an expiry on all grants in the past albeit up to 5 years. Maybe it changed for a while but Im glad to see it back. Plans should always include money to draw down grants, shouldnt be submitted unless they can be allocated and tbh that isnt as big a deal as in the past with low interest loans availavle from Clan Credo and others who have become availabe to Irish sports. If the grant has been allocated there is little reason not to use these facilities to get things moving. At the very least the whole draw down amount doesnt have to be fundraised.
joey B
05/11/2024, 7:30 AM
https://www.thesun.ie/sport/14128278/bohemians-dalymount-park-ground-redvelopment-loi/
Some interesting stuff in that :
:Plan to move out of Dalymount at the end of next season and be back in 2028.
:Want to remain in the Northside and have held talks over playing at Parnell park but have not really progressed.
:cut in playing budget over the next couple of seasons.
Another Bohemia
05/11/2024, 9:28 AM
https://www.thesun.ie/sport/14128278/bohemians-dalymount-park-ground-redvelopment-loi/
Some interesting stuff in that :
:Plan to move out of Dalymount at the end of next season and be back in 2028.
:Want to remain in the Northside and have held talks over playing at Parnell park but have not really progressed.
:cut in playing budget over the next couple of seasons.
Not the best place to discuss but the cut in playing budget shouldnt be a surprise. Bohs squad has been frankly bloated with players the last couple of seasons. In total I think Bohs had 33 first team players last year, which for a club not playin Euro games is unncessary (Squad still only ever had 1 LB and no decent striker). Reynolds had said at the start that he wanted a smaller squad supplimented by players from the academy, that was what it was like when Bohs were at their best under Long, When we moved away from that and started signing players like Hery, Flores, Junior and others who were seen as great ready made players is when things started going off the rails IMO. A move back to a smaller squad, signing young players like Kavanagh & Meekison and supplimenting from the academy should be a better use of wages and probably cheaper overall.
brendy_éire
05/11/2024, 10:29 AM
:Want to remain in the Northside and have held talks over playing at Parnell park but have not really progressed.
I'd just blindly assumed it would be Tolka. Any reason why it wouldn't be?
Glen Of Aherlow
05/11/2024, 10:34 AM
I'd just blindly assumed it would be Tolka. Any reason why it wouldn't be?
You'd imagine it would be the logical choice and the pitch is so bad playing extra games on it won't make much difference.
Another Bohemia
05/11/2024, 11:08 AM
You'd imagine it would be the logical choice and the pitch is so bad playing extra games on it won't make much difference.
It's also not just the men's team that needs relocation. There's the women's team as well that adds a layer of complexity.
joey B
05/11/2024, 11:16 AM
Where else apart from Tolka could be considered? Morton stadium seems a grim option if they have to go out there again…..
nr637
05/11/2024, 11:33 AM
https://www.thesun.ie/sport/14128278/bohemians-dalymount-park-ground-redvelopment-loi/
Some interesting stuff in that :
:Plan to move out of Dalymount at the end of next season and be back in 2028.
:Want to remain in the Northside and have held talks over playing at Parnell park but have not really progressed.
:cut in playing budget over the next couple of seasons.
Any news on Sligo Rovers plans on how they see their redevelopment project for the Showgrounds begins and will progress?
Another Bohemia
05/11/2024, 11:51 AM
Where else apart from Tolka could be considered? Morton stadium seems a grim option if they have to go out there again…..
So far I've heard, in no particular order
- Tolka
- Richmond Park
- Parnell Park
- The RDS
Each has its own obstacles as well as pros and cons.
Glen Of Aherlow
05/11/2024, 12:12 PM
So far I've heard, in no particular order
- Tolka
- Richmond Park
- Parnell Park
- The RDS
Each has its own obstacles as well as pros and cons.
Which would the Bohs supporters prefer ?
EatYerGreens
05/11/2024, 12:52 PM
So far I've heard, in no particular order
- Tolka
- Richmond Park
- Parnell Park
- The RDS
Each has its own obstacles as well as pros and cons.
Would be interesting to see how the RDS option went.
Another Bohemia
05/11/2024, 1:16 PM
Which would the Bohs supporters prefer ?
Varies from person to person. Richmond would be easiet for me and I think there is a decent bus service between Phibsboro and Inchicore so that might make the most sense logistically and the pitch in Inchicore is really nice in comparison to any of the other places I've seen mentioned.
Would be interesting to see how the RDS option went.
Honestly I wouldnt be surprised if RDS was a no go from the start because I think there would be some overlap between Leinster games and bohs games being on Friday nights. Its just somewhere I had heard mentioned as an option
Shinkicker
05/11/2024, 2:54 PM
https://www.thesun.ie/sport/14128278/bohemians-dalymount-park-ground-redvelopment-loi/
Some interesting stuff in that :
:Plan to move out of Dalymount at the end of next season and be back in 2028.
:Want to remain in the Northside and have held talks over playing at Parnell park but have not really progressed.
:cut in playing budget over the next couple of seasons.
Is there no way Bohs can get some people on the terrace at the shopping centre end to boost crowds for the last season. This would give the place more atmosphere. Even discounted rates for u 15s or let there own kids in free Obviously there is construction work ongoing but they could close it off before the TV gantry. The empty terrace just takes away from the place. It's the same at Drogheda at the housing estate end and Shels at Tolka drumcondra end, both have no room. I fear new Dalymount will be like both of them.
ger121
05/11/2024, 3:12 PM
So far I've heard, in no particular order
- Tolka
- Richmond Park
- Parnell Park
- The RDS
Each has its own obstacles as well as pros and cons.
I heard Shels don’t want us in Tolka. Parnell a non runner now. I did hear about the RDS alright. No idea about Richmond.
EatYerGreens
05/11/2024, 3:18 PM
I heard Shels don’t want us in Tolka.
DCC should have made it a pre-condition of saving Tolka from the chop. Short-sighted not to.
Glen Of Aherlow
05/11/2024, 3:23 PM
I heard Shels don’t want us in Tolka. Parnell a non runner now. I did hear about the RDS alright. No idea about Richmond.
What about the UCD bowl ?you could move the Mono stand and non corporate box out there
Buller
05/11/2024, 3:27 PM
What about the UCD bowl ?you could move the Mono stand and non corporate box out there
Thats actually a decent shout apart from the location. Morton stadium with the Mono stand moved there?
pineapple stu
05/11/2024, 3:33 PM
Think the college have rejected it before - though that was for Rovers rather than Bohs. Not sure if that makes a difference!
Nah Nah Nah Nah
05/11/2024, 4:13 PM
Any news on Sligo Rovers plans on how they see their redevelopment project for the Showgrounds begins and will progress?
During 2025 the Design Team will finalize the detailed design of the stadium and will tender the construction works.
The club expects to appoint a building contractor and specialist sub contractors in the fourth quarter of 2025 with works commencing in early 2026.
The design team estimate that the overall stadium works will take 21 months to complete.
The laying of the new pitch will cause the most significant disruption to the continued operation of the stadium as the new grass based pitch installation cannot be done in the off season. The pitch will most likely be unavailable for 4 months mid season and the Club will need to negotiate the rescheduling of home games with the FAI and the other LoI clubs for this period. This is likely to happen in 2026.
In the interim, the club has recently been awarded €376,000 by Government under the Community Facilities Programme to carry out further improvements at the Showgrounds, most notably the final phase of the floodlights on the Treacy Avenue side and the renewal of the astro pitch playing surface. It is intended that these works will be completed in 2025.
And in 2028, in time for the centenary anniversary of the founding of Sligo Rovers, the new era will commence with the full opening of the new Sligo Showgrounds stadium, and we look forward to welcoming our current supporters and attracting new ones as we seek to continue the proud heritage, history and achievements of the Bit O’ Red.
brendy_éire
05/11/2024, 9:44 PM
I heard Shels don’t want us in Tolka. Parnell a non runner now. I did hear about the RDS alright. No idea about Richmond.
Where do Shels expect to go if Tolka is redeveloped?
Again I've blindly assumed, but would it not be Dalymount?
fionnsci
06/11/2024, 12:03 AM
Are Shels worried about boosting Bohs' popularity in the Shels catchment area perhaps? Two years in Santry would be grim.
I saw a comment online that the terraces behind the goals in the redeveloped Dalymount will now include a roof, don't see anything official on this - not sure if this has been reported anywhere?
It's widely reported as a category 3 stadium, I'm wondering if seated capacity is the only thing keeping it from category 4 and whether it's been future-proofed to increase capacity in the future (given the available space probably only by adding a second tier on one side).
bohsmug
06/11/2024, 11:25 AM
During 2025 the Design Team will finalize the detailed design of the stadium and will tender the construction works.
The club expects to appoint a building contractor and specialist sub contractors in the fourth quarter of 2025 with works commencing in early 2026.
The design team estimate that the overall stadium works will take 21 months to complete.
The laying of the new pitch will cause the most significant disruption to the continued operation of the stadium as the new grass based pitch installation cannot be done in the off season. The pitch will most likely be unavailable for 4 months mid season and the Club will need to negotiate the rescheduling of home games with the FAI and the other LoI clubs for this period. This is likely to happen in 2026.
In the interim, the club has recently been awarded €376,000 by Government under the Community Facilities Programme to carry out further improvements at the Showgrounds, most notably the final phase of the floodlights on the Treacy Avenue side and the renewal of the astro pitch playing surface. It is intended that these works will be completed in 2025.
And in 2028, in time for the centenary anniversary of the founding of Sligo Rovers, the new era will commence with the full opening of the new Sligo Showgrounds stadium, and we look forward to welcoming our current supporters and attracting new ones as we seek to continue the proud heritage, history and achievements of the Bit O’ Red.
Hope this all goes smoothly. I've always enjoyed going to the Showgrounds (pre-match anyway.. the rest is dictated by what happens on the pitch). Will be very exciting when this gets started. Feel like there's still more jeopardy involved in Dalymount than Sligo but hopefully we see diggers on site at both grounds in 2026.
I'll still be sad when old Dalymount gets knocked.
EatYerGreens
06/11/2024, 12:23 PM
Where do Shels expect to go if Tolka is redeveloped?
Again I've blindly assumed, but would it not be Dalymount?
Presumably yes. But the difference there is the council owning that stadium. Have Shels resumed ownership of Tolka now?
DCC need to intervene here IMO and broker a deal. Very easy for them to do IMO.
EatYerGreens
06/11/2024, 12:25 PM
I'll still be sad when old Dalymount gets knocked.
Sad yes - but long overdue tbh.
I remember going to what I thinik was the opening game for the new Jodi Stand about 20yrs (friendly against Aberdeen). That was the last significant improvement at a ground which was already very tired in those days.
EalingGreen
06/11/2024, 2:42 PM
I remember going to what I thinik was the opening game for the new Jodi Stand about 20yrs (friendly against Aberdeen). That was the last significant improvement at a ground which was already very tired in those days.My first time at Dalymount was in early August(?) 1978, when Spurs arrived for a pre-season friendly vs Bohs. It was the first ever game Ardiles and Villa played for them after signing soon after they'd won the World Cup that summer, so huge excitement.
As for the ground itself, I remember thinking it didn't really match up to Windsor, itself no picture postcard venue back then, though that might have been my own youthful bias. I'm pretty sure Windsor's capacity was a few thousand extra, however.
My first time at Dalymount was in early August(?) 1978, when Spurs arrived for a pre-season friendly vs Bohs. It was the first ever game Ardiles and Villa played for them after signing soon after they'd won the World Cup that summer, so huge excitement.
As for the ground itself, I remember thinking it didn't really match up to Windsor, itself no picture postcard venue back then, though that might have been my own youthful bias. I'm pretty sure Windsor's capacity was a few thousand extra, however.
Ossie Ardiles themed away shirt incoming
Another Bohemia
06/11/2024, 3:03 PM
Ossie Ardiles themed away shirt incoming
Gigs are being planned for the last season in Dalymount. Plenty of ammo for future jerseys.
dundalkfc10
06/11/2024, 4:01 PM
Gigs are being planned for the last season in Dalymount. Plenty of ammo for future jerseys.
Surprised Kneecap havnt played in Dalymount yet considering Lambert is their manager.
They would sell thousands of tickets
cláirseach
06/11/2024, 4:08 PM
Which would the Bohs supporters prefer ?
The general impression I have is that men's supporters I have spoken to are most favourably inclined towards Richmond Park and women's team supporters towards Whitehall.
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