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White Horse
04/10/2016, 1:29 PM
That's the plan anyway, according to the Irish Sun (http://www.thesun.ie/irishsol/homepage/sport/irishfootball/7230615/Shelbourne-and-Bohemians-groundsharing-deal-moves-closer.html)
"It [Dalyer] will be levelled in October 2017 after Bohs’ final home game of the season. It is envisaged the two clubs will groundshare at Tolka for the 2018 and 2019 seasons at least."
"At least" ????
nigel-harps1954
04/10/2016, 1:47 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2016/1004/821356-dunphy-hopes-to-see-tolka-park-preserved/
Eamon Dunphy has great memories of Tolka.
Also great memories of Miltown being sold during the Celtic Tiger era, which started about ten years early in his head..
Philosophizer
04/10/2016, 2:09 PM
"At least" ????
Have you ever seen a stadium build in this country finished ahead of schedule??
I think it's only realistic of the Sun to assume it will be 2020 at the earliest to see football in a new Dalyer, and even at that it will just be a pitch and one big stand. I'd estimate the other stands will happen at about the same rate as Tallaght i.e. about 10 yrs down the line it will be finished.
redarmyfaction
04/10/2016, 8:21 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2016/1004/821356-dunphy-hopes-to-see-tolka-park-preserved/
Eamon Dunphy has great memories of Tolka.
Also great memories of Miltown being sold during the Celtic Tiger era, which started about ten years early in his head..
The same Dunphy who praised the Kilcoyne family for being heroes of Irish Football, in the Sindo, at the time of the Miltown sale, having bought it cheap from nuns if I remember correctly, promising to keep it for sport. I have regarded every utterance of his as BS ever since.
Have you ever seen a stadium build in this country finished ahead of schedule??
I think it's only realistic of the Sun to assume it will be 2020 at the earliest to see football in a new Dalyer, and even at that it will just be a pitch and one big stand. I'd estimate the other stands will happen at about the same rate as Tallaght i.e. about 10 yrs down the line it will be finished.
Yeah, it's very frustrating that we can't get it together in terms of building stadia. Just watching the Ireland match starting now and George Hamilton mentioned that the stadium is the sort of thing the league should be aiming for. It's a beautiful ground. Puts the like of Tallght or Turners Cross even to shame, let alone some of the lesser grounds in the league. The new Dalymount should be at least as good. But will it be ? Somehow I doubt it.
Saw on twitter that Tallaght is to get a third stand to bring it up to UEFA standard. https://twitter.com/dlooney/status/788037790432911360
Dermot Looney @dlooney 17m
SDCC agrees to provide funding for the third stand in @TallaghtStadium to bring the stadium to UEFA Category 4 standard. Happy to support.
Dermot Looney @dlooney 9m
The new stand, at the ground's south end, will bring the official capacity of the stadium up to 8000 and will meet other UEFA requirements
nigel-harps1954
17/10/2016, 4:27 PM
Much better idea to put it at the car park end.
ForzaHoop
17/10/2016, 5:40 PM
Are you going to the Harps meeting tonight, hope they have some news on Stadium
nigel-harps1954
17/10/2016, 9:58 PM
Are you going to the Harps meeting tonight, hope they have some news on Stadium
FAI and Harps together working hard toward new stadium is about the only news on that front. Incredibly frustrating for everyone on the board that there's been no movement but just have to be patient.
kevincronin2000
21/10/2016, 5:45 PM
Much better idea to put it at the car park end.
Would be better again if the new stand was linked to the existing stand. Hopefully those installing the seats in the new stand won't have played with Lego as a kid and have some kind of co ordination
sullanefc
22/10/2016, 9:20 PM
Saw on twitter that Tallaght is to get a third stand to bring it up to UEFA standard. https://twitter.com/dlooney/status/788037790432911360
Dermot Looney @dlooney 17m
SDCC agrees to provide funding for the third stand in @TallaghtStadium to bring the stadium to UEFA Category 4 standard. Happy to support.
Dermot Looney @dlooney 9m
The new stand, at the ground's south end, will bring the official capacity of the stadium up to 8000 and will meet other UEFA requirements
Only right that Dundalk get to play in a home ground befitting their performances this year.
legendz
23/10/2016, 8:50 AM
The municipal stadium that is the Markets Field is to start hosting rugby games as well.
pateen
24/10/2016, 2:01 PM
The municipal stadium that is the Markets Field is to start hosting rugby games as well.
Club level matches or Munster games?
legendz
24/10/2016, 6:06 PM
Club level matches or Munster games?Club rugby. I think there was a rugby game played there last Friday evening.
bluewhitearmy
24/10/2016, 6:15 PM
Club rugby. I think there was a rugby game played there last Friday evening.
There wasn't. Delayed due to Anthony Foley funeral. Pitch gonna be in tatters from rugby far too soft for it.
legendz
24/10/2016, 6:24 PM
Pitch gonna be in tatters from rugby far too soft for it.Part and parcel of a municipal stadium.
Johnnie C
24/10/2016, 11:31 PM
Why do eggchasers want to play in Markets Field, have they no pitches of their own ?
Philosophizer
25/10/2016, 12:52 PM
The municipal stadium that is the Markets Field is to start hosting rugby games as well.
That's disappointing, given that it might wreck the surface for football, especially since Limerick try to play a passing game. but it was always a possibility since it's a municipal ground and Limerick is a big rugby city.
Does club rugby in Ireland really need a ground like MF though? I was in town a couple of weekends ago and was passing trinity when I noticed a couple of rugby teams warming up. Went in to have a look and it turns out it was a league rugby match between Trinity and Young Munster, the top division in Ireland for club rugby. I stayed and watched the 1st half - there was maybe 200 ppl standing watching it. I'm guessing these are 2 of the most storied club teams in ireland... they were playing on a lovely sat afternoon in beautiful grounds in the very middle of our most populated city, and there was 200 ppl!! Altho one of them was Paul O O'Connell so maybe he counts for 2 ppl :P.
How many ppl usually attend club rugby matches in Limerick? And does anyone know how many rugby matches wil be played on it per yr. Wil the pitch be able to sustain it?
LK37oldskool
25/10/2016, 5:10 PM
The postponed game was the Charity Cup Final between Young Munster & Garryowen. I don't think they'll be too many senior games played here as there is no bar facility in the ground which is the main revenue source for most AIL clubs on match day. I heard a few school boy games may be played here. Attendance for club rugby is steady with the senior clubs in Div1& 2 pulling in around 300 -500 per game. This increases substantially when local teams play each other. In relation to the pitch as already mentioned its soft and really hasn't matured yet. It wont take a sustained amount of games for sure.
bluewhitearmy
25/10/2016, 8:50 PM
There is no need for rugby to be played there at all really plenty of rugby grounds around the town all with bars. Only reason it is being played in the Markets Field at all is because one of the suits that thinks he owns the ground has connections to Garryowen rugby club and is mad keen to show off to his rugger buddies. We can't have too many complaints it not being our ground and all but they could have at least let the pitch settle a bit before tearing it up.
GUFCghost
26/10/2016, 6:28 PM
It's a municipal stadium,and there are plenty of grounds across the world that host both rugby and football.Anyone who thinks the LOI is going to get it's own purpose built stadiums is delusional.Every stadium in the country should be able to host LOI/GAA/Rugby
ger121
26/10/2016, 7:22 PM
It's a municipal stadium,and there are plenty of grounds across the world that host both rugby and football.Anyone who thinks the LOI is going to get it's own purpose built stadiums is delusional.Every stadium in the country should be able to host LOI/GAA/Rugby
For me, the GAA should receive no future funding unless grounds are used for non GAA Sports. No other code would get away with refusing to open up stadia but still getting large Government Grants.
JDsJocks
27/10/2016, 6:27 AM
Would be better again if the new stand was linked to the existing stand. Hopefully those installing the seats in the new stand won't have played with Lego as a kid and have some kind of co ordination
Agreed it's bloody stupid not to curve it and link it onto the other two
Philosophizer
27/10/2016, 9:29 AM
I'm sure that would have been the preferred option, but i'd guess that they went with the standalone stand as it was cheaper :(
nigel-harps1954
27/10/2016, 9:56 AM
It's hardly stupid really since the two existing stands wouldn't match up anyway. The original plans have long since been abandoned.
Philosophizer
27/10/2016, 12:07 PM
It's hardly stupid really since the two existing stands wouldn't match up anyway. The original plans have long since been abandoned.
Very fair point.
sbgawa
27/10/2016, 12:54 PM
It's hardly stupid really since the two existing stands wouldn't match up anyway. The original plans have long since been abandoned.
Your completely right but at the same time a curved stand that almost joined up against the existing structures would surely be possible, many grounds that have 4 sides don't match up exactly and it would cure the wind tunnel effect coming off the mountain.
I remember one match last season against Pats when the ball was being blown backwards from clearences.
Philosophizer
27/10/2016, 2:49 PM
Your completely right but at the same time a curved stand that almost joined up against the existing structures would surely be possible, many grounds that have 4 sides don't match up exactly and it would cure the wind tunnel effect coming off the mountain.
I remember one match last season against Pats when the ball was being blown backwards from clearences.
Frankly, i think we're quite lucky that the stand is being placed at the south end at all. I think it was initially planed for the north but luckily one of the members of the SDCC is a rovers fan and knows the affect the wind can have on the games so he had it changed so that it would be put on the south end.
GUFCghost
27/10/2016, 4:32 PM
For me, the GAA should receive no future funding unless grounds are used for non GAA Sports. No other code would get away with refusing to open up stadia but still getting large Government Grants.
Spot on,we could have some amazing stadia in this country if people were just willing to nock heads together.
Why don't Cork City and Munster Rugby come together?They both need a capacity of about 10,000 and the stadiums are very close as is
Charlie Darwin
27/10/2016, 6:27 PM
Frankly, i think we're quite lucky that the stand is being placed at the south end at all. I think it was initially planed for the north but luckily one of the members of the SDCC is a rovers fan and knows the affect the wind can have on the games so he had it changed so that it would be put on the south end.
He's a Pats fan as far as I know.
brendy_éire
28/10/2016, 7:35 AM
Brandywell work 100% starting next month. Probably. We think.
http://www.derryjournal.com/news/brandywell-revamp-to-start-within-weeks-1-7650374
Nah Nah Nah Nah
28/10/2016, 7:50 AM
Ready for the start of the season?
brendy_éire
28/10/2016, 9:10 AM
Ready for the start of the season?
If they start on time, and if they start with the pitch, then yes.
Plan would be to block off the Lone Moor side and just use the main stand for the first part of the season, which would suffice grand.
Whilst this is the furthest along the process we've got to date, after (25) years of waiting for redevelopment, you can forgive us if we're a bit skeptical about these announcements.
ger121
28/10/2016, 2:23 PM
If they start on time, and if they start with the pitch, then yes.
Plan would be to block off the Lone Moor side and just use the main stand for the first part of the season, which would suffice grand.
Whilst this is the furthest along the process we've got to date, after (25) years of waiting for redevelopment, you can forgive us if we're a bit skeptical about these announcements.
Fingers crossed. Was only thinking about this the other night watching Derry highlights on Soccer Republic.
ForzaHoop
28/10/2016, 4:26 PM
Happy days for Derry just in time for European games, now hopefully some news on harps
SalvadorSanchez
28/10/2016, 10:29 PM
Your completely right but at the same time a curved stand that almost joined up against the existing structures would surely be possible, many grounds that have 4 sides don't match up exactly and it would cure the wind tunnel effect coming off the mountain.
I remember one match last season against Pats when the ball was being blown backwards from clearences.
Does the original planning permission relating to design etc. not still apply in this case?
sbgawa
29/10/2016, 7:17 AM
Good point but i suppose they have time to reapply before they start to build. The council voted to build it so can't see them turning themselves down : )
ToberonaTornado
04/11/2016, 10:50 AM
http://www.derryjournal.com/sport/football/derry-city/brandywell-out-of-action-for-a-season-1-7663038
How can the story have changed so much on this? It was meant to be a way way shorter period so a bit baffled by this.
brendy_éire
04/11/2016, 7:58 PM
How can the story have changed so much on this? It was meant to be a way way shorter period so a bit baffled by this.
We're all baffled. I tend to not believe anything until I physically see it happening.
Longfordian
04/11/2016, 8:08 PM
Good news for Sligo.
El-Pietro
04/11/2016, 9:56 PM
I bet they end up playing the whole season in the Brandy again. No work will be done!
Conroy
14/11/2016, 8:48 AM
Dundalk have come to an agreement with previous owner Gerry Matthews and now have the lease to Oriel Park. The Youth Development Centre behind the shed is now also in control of the club. Massive news!
Dundalk FC have come to an agreement with former owner Gerry Matthews regarding the lease of Oriel Park.
Both parties had been in a stand-off over the issue since Andy Connolly and Paul Brown took over the club from the local businessman in 2012.
The issue regarding the lease has prevented Dundalk FC from carrying out upgrade works to Oriel Park, which has become one of the most outdated grounds in the League of Ireland despite the club’s successes on the field of play.
The statement, signed by all three parties, was released this morning and reads as follows: “Dundalk Football Club are pleased to confirm that a full and complete agreement regarding the Lease of Oriel Park has been found with the previous club owner, Gerry Matthews, thus ending a process that began on 18th February 2013 with the initial transfer of ownership of the club to the current owners.
“The agreement also provides for the purchase of the Youth Development Centre at Oriel Park from Mr Matthews by Dundalk Football Club, thus handing full control of the facility to the current owners.”
The club hailed the agreement as huge for the club.
“On behalf of the Dundalk FC Board of Management we are grateful that all parties were able to find a solution that works for everyone based on genuine goodwill,” said Dundalk FC owner, Paul Brown.
“By finding a working relationship with all the parties to this dispute, we have been able to put the past behind us including all financial matters relating to the initial takeover of the club which have been resolved to all parties’ satisfaction.
“The interest of the club and its future in the community has been put first and this will allow us to continue with our development plan to keep the Dundalk Football Club moving forward in the right direction, both on and off the field.
“We have come a long way in a very short time but we want to ensure the long-term growth of the club and in concluding this agreement, we are now able to kickstart the process of applying for government grants and unlocking additional funding means.”
Conroy
14/11/2016, 8:58 AM
And in a strange turn of events the reporter on twitter who reported the story with a screenshot of the agreement has asked for it to be retracted as the club hasn't reached and agreement with the local council yet.
nigel-harps1954
14/11/2016, 9:11 AM
What does this mean for the plot of land up the road purchased by Dundalk recently?
What does this mean for the plot of land up the road purchased by Dundalk recently?
What plot of land? I must have missed something.
jinxy lilywhite
14/11/2016, 10:21 AM
What plot of land? I must have missed something.
I thought that myself
nigel-harps1954
14/11/2016, 11:13 AM
Some spies tell me there was a plot of land bought in case Oriel dispute wasn't resolved.
jinxy lilywhite
14/11/2016, 11:48 AM
Some spies tell me there was a plot of land bought in case Oriel dispute wasn't resolved.
Not sure on that Nigel to be honest. You might be right
Kingdom
14/11/2016, 12:24 PM
Dundalk fans, would I be right in thinking that when the club were pursuing Matthews there was no expectation that the YDC development would be included in any potential deal?
Really this is great news for Dundalk, and with clearing the way for improvements to Oriel, it's only going to be another positive news story for the league.
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