Stadium Updates (All Clubs) [Archive] - Page 111

D24Saint

11/04/2018, 11:07 AM

I wish non Pats fan would drop the Tallaght sharing talk the vast majority would rather see the club fold first than see our club play at home in Tallaght Stadium & I live only five minutes from Tallaght stadium so this isn't blind anti Rovers/Tallaght talk. There is some heavy hitters involved in this project so let's see how it plays out.

Park_Lane

11/04/2018, 11:13 AM

"The stadium development will be financially independent and will not be reliant on receiving any Government grants."

Will never happen unfortunately

Yossarian

11/04/2018, 11:13 AM

Is there a scale model? I won�t believe it�s happening until I see a scale model.

PartySaint

11/04/2018, 11:36 AM

Is there a scale model? I won’t believe it’s happening until I see a scale model.

I won't believe it's happening until I'm sitting in the new Stadum watching a match.

It looks nice, it won't happen.

brendy_�ire

11/04/2018, 11:49 AM

12,000 seater stadium............
Can't host a group stage game in Europe.

This.

A 12,000 seater ground seems pretty unnecessary really. Any reason given for such a large number? Would a better use not be to reduce the capacity and install more media and hospitality areas?
(requirements for Catergory 4 here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_stadium_categories) It could essentially become the ground for any future CL/EL group stage games.

One thing I'd add, which we seem to be losing sight of in ground redevelopments in this country, we're eliminating standing areas. I'd love to see a few safe-standing areas in our grounds.

colonelwest

11/04/2018, 1:17 PM

Is there a scale model? I won’t believe it’s happening until I see a scale model.

https://i.giphy.com/media/OCMGLUo7d5jJ6/giphy.webp

CorribsideSteve

11/04/2018, 1:48 PM

The RTE Article suggested Pat's could be playing in the new Stadium by 2022. What with the pace of Stadium and any other type of large construction in Ireland, 2,022 years should be enough time to complete the build.

sbgawa

11/04/2018, 2:21 PM

id imagine they have suggested 12000 seat stadium so they can allow the planners scale them back from there.
The plan could be viable as the profits on the development of houses and apartments + retail + the value of the apartments/houses they could build on the old ground should be enough to build a stadium.
I guess the problem is that there is a history in this league of plans being announced that (could be) viable but which still never happen.

I agree with D24saint btw , no way would I want to see Pats sharing in Tallaght and the local Tallaght people wouldn't be happy when the plans for the new Methadone clinic come out :)

disgruntled

11/04/2018, 2:27 PM

Is there a scale model? I won’t believe it’s happening until I see a scale model.

A scale model is no guarantee of anything.
I remember when Plonk Donovan had a scale model of the stadium in Bishopstown & we all know how that turned out :)

EatYerGreens

11/04/2018, 2:43 PM

Is there a scale model? I won’t believe it’s happening until I see a scale model.

Is there a DVD (preferably featuring a Fatboy Slim track) ?

I won't believe it's happening until I see a DVD.

Park_Lane

11/04/2018, 3:35 PM

Is there a scale model? I won’t believe it’s happening until I see a scale model.

I've sold scale models to brockway ogdenville and north haverbrook

sidewayspasser

11/04/2018, 4:49 PM

Fairly ambitious plans there by Pat's, looks great. Though it makes you wonder why they don't seem to target UEFA Cat 4, when the capacity would be large enough for that and one would assume that the thing is designed with sufficient underground parking.

Any ideas how a "Phase 1" for this would look like? Single-storey building with a pitch and one or two stands on top?

Nesta99

11/04/2018, 6:54 PM

I think we have found over the years that ownership of land for ground developments has been a bit of an issue. Nothing new here then...

jinxy lilywhite

11/04/2018, 10:05 PM

I would love if pats could do it. It would be fantastic for the league in general.

From what I gather this is all in infancy stage but I don't understand the negativity from other other clubs.

Kelleher has always be described as a developer who wants his dirty mits on Richmond Park . He has owned the club for 12 years and seems as good a owner as the best of.them ie props them up financially when required.

The area needs development and pats want to be a part of it. It should be applauded

Yossarian

11/04/2018, 10:14 PM

I don't understand the negativity from other other clubs.

I think it�s more skepticism than negativity really. We�ve seen plenty of stadium plans that have come to nothing.

Charlie Darwin

11/04/2018, 10:35 PM

I would love if pats could do it.
http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/article-1303386931128-0bb8e23000000578-914302_636x377.jpg

Nesta99

11/04/2018, 10:41 PM

Kelleher has always be described as a developer who wants his dirty mits on Richmond Park .

Without further detail we dont know but what happens to Richmond Park itself then as unless Ive misread the reports its is a rejuvenation development in Inchicore on DCC land. Sounds like a great project as many do if it does happen. But that would free Richmond up for a different development for Kelleher then, so mission accomplished. The new ground couldnt be a development on the Richmond Park parcel of land as surely its too small especially so close to The Camac that side?

TonyD

11/04/2018, 11:30 PM

I think the biggest stumbling block could be DCC unfortunately. There is already one (self professed "Pats fan") councillor making negative noises.

Nesta99

12/04/2018, 1:07 AM

I've sold scale models to brockway ogdenville and north haverbrook

1993 that was and still one of the better episodes, I was a mere 14 years old.

mcgonigle

12/04/2018, 7:00 AM

Buller

12/04/2018, 10:55 AM

The proposed Richmond Arena, St Pat�s insist, will have corporate and conference facilities as part of the new build.

�We know that one of the things that militates against growing attendances in League of Ireland matches is the lack of facilities,� says O�Mahony.

�Somewhere to get a decent bite to eat, comfortable seating. Because this would be a brand new state-of-the-art stadium, it would tick every single one of those boxes.

�It would have all the facilities that fans could want. All seats covered and comfortable facilities.

�People might say �why do you need 12,000-seats when you�re only getting 2,000 at your matches?� The answer to that is we know we�re not going to get 12,000 at every match but we believe that we can grow our attendances very substantially if we have a stadium like this to offer and then, when the big matches come and European matches, and other games like Ireland Under-21s and Women�s internationals, that we will fill the place.

�We want to grow our fanbase throughout west Dublin, and by having these facilities and playing attractive football, as we do, allied to having a brand new, comfortable stadium it is all designed to making the club more sustainable in the long run.

�It�s a case of �build it and they�ll come� but certainly better facilities give you better crowds.�

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/st-patricks-athletic-unveil-plans-for-12000seater-richmond-arena-with-shopping-complex-and-housing-in-plan-36797347.html

Ezeikial

12/04/2018, 11:12 AM

From that Indo article, St Pat�s president Tom O�Mahony said

�We have spoken to TDs and councillors. It would be fair to say that we got quite a positive reponse from the people we have spoken to"

It appears that Paul Hand, an Independent councillor for the area and self proclaimed St Pats fan is not one of them

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/0411/953763-councillor-casts-doubt-on-st-pats-stadium-plans/

He certainly appears to be making an ass of himself - surely he could make more positive noises about it?

D24Saint

12/04/2018, 11:20 AM

From that Indo article, St Pat�s president Tom O�Mahony said

It appears that Paul Hand, an Independent councillor for the area and self proclaimed St Pats fan is not one of them

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/0411/953763-councillor-casts-doubt-on-st-pats-stadium-plans/

He certainly appears to be making an ass of himself - surely he could make more positive noises about it?

Well considering he represents a hugely undeveloped part of Dublin City he should welcome any proposal that wants to invest millions into an new Town center with shopping,civic facilities that will only improve the lives of locals residents. There nobody at Pats that thinks that the way forward is anything but difficult but the proposals to me apart from the stadium look exciting for Inchicore with the stadium on top it is a game changer.

PartySaint

12/04/2018, 11:21 AM

From that Indo article, St Pat’s president Tom O’Mahony said

It appears that Paul Hand, an Independent councillor for the area and self proclaimed St Pats fan is not one of them

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/0411/953763-councillor-casts-doubt-on-st-pats-stadium-plans/

He certainly appears to be making an ass of himself - surely he could make more positive noises about it?

It looks like he has done no research into the proposal whatsoever and just wanted to get on the tele

Ezeikial

12/04/2018, 11:27 AM

It looks like he has done no research into the proposal whatsoever and just wanted to get on the tele

That's the way it looks alright.

It is a pity that the first highly publicised reaction to the plans were so negative

D24Saint

12/04/2018, 11:30 AM

It looks like he has done no research into the proposal whatsoever and just wanted to get on the tele

He obviously thought he good make a good fist of the interview & that he would be a dab hand at talking on the telly, handy for us he wasn't.

Dalymountrower

12/04/2018, 12:07 PM

If Tom O'Mahony is involved it certainly adds credibilty.Is he still Sec Gen of Department of Tourism, Sport etc

D24Saint

12/04/2018, 12:31 PM

If Tom O'Mahony is involved it certainly adds credibilty.Is he still Sec Gen of Department of Tourism, Sport etc

Retired took over as club president.

Nesta99

12/04/2018, 4:18 PM

Great plans, looks fantastic but won't happen unfortunately. However wouldn't it be great if this was the one to break the mould though. These types of plans are released so frequently one has to stick eventually I suppose

That's exactly it, I do believe in the 'rising tide raises all boats' and Dundalk by a long way need the biggest shove along. If this is done, is a corporate/financial success and creates a model that works then I think others could follow suit, even urban planners could be swayed. Self financing in the past was looking for 30,000 (Drogheda Utd) mixed housing units to go with the new ground, this variation would have such a smaller footprint et al so ye could see it work. Urban regeneration are the buzz word these days and taking a potential 12k people in to an urban centre regularly is a much easier sell than trying to manage a potential 100k permanent residents in an area ala Drogheda plan. Win win for Kelleher as he would be pretty free to redevelop Richmond Park as he wishes which returns his funding of Pats over the years and he achieves what is probably his end game all along without destroying the club.

ToberonaTornado

12/04/2018, 6:41 PM

Nesta99

12/04/2018, 6:47 PM

Brian Kerr will be over the moon!

Nesta99

12/04/2018, 6:47 PM

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/0412/954091-saints-facing-competition-for-proposed-stadium-site/

Buller

13/04/2018, 1:27 PM

"The board of management of Athlone Town AFC is delighted with today's High Court ruling in the club's favour by Mr Justice Richard Humphreys.The dispute centred around the club's plans to have an astroturf pitch installed at Athlone Town Stadium."

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=966689126814669&id=718938504923067

Note that this would be a training facility, not the main pitch.

"Athlone Town AFC have welcomed a High Court ruling, which will allow them to access a €200,000 Sports Capital grant to develop an astro-turf training facility adjacent to Athlone Town Stadium at Lissywollen.

Town say they’ll now be able save money as it’ll reduce the need to rent other facilities for training their senior and underage teams while also providing a revenue stream by renting its use to other ‘interested parties’."

ToberonaTornado

13/04/2018, 2:53 PM

Note that this would be a training facility, not the main pitch.

"Athlone Town AFC have welcomed a High Court ruling, which will allow them to access a �200,000 Sports Capital grant to develop an astro-turf training facility adjacent to Athlone Town Stadium at Lissywollen.

Town say they�ll now be able save money as it�ll reduce the need to rent other facilities for training their senior and underage teams while also providing a revenue stream by renting its use to other �interested parties�."

Nearly every LOI side have these revenue streams these days.Athlone have to go to the high court to get there's up and running.Bad sign.

El-Pietro

13/04/2018, 3:01 PM

Where exactly will this pitch go? Who was preventing them from putting it in?

EAFC_rdfl

13/04/2018, 4:01 PM

there's a training pitch behind the goals of the main ground - the end furthest from the turnstiles, so must be a replacement for that.

pateen

18/04/2018, 5:43 PM

Any pictures of the progress of Tallaghts new stand anyone?

nigel-harps1954

18/04/2018, 6:18 PM

Any pictures of the progress of Tallaghts new stand anyone?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Tallaght_Stadium.jpg/300px-Tallaght_Stadium.jpg

gufcfan

18/04/2018, 6:25 PM

Any pictures of the progress of Tallaghts new stand anyone?

Looks like they have the diggers in for the foundation from what could be seen on TV.

D24Saint

18/04/2018, 6:38 PM

Looks like they have the diggers in for the foundation from what could be seen on TV.

there seems to be other work going on aswell in the carpark ?

sbgawa

18/04/2018, 6:58 PM

All foundation work so far. The car park has a section cvlosed off to give them space to work. Letter to members said car park would be restored when build was finished.

ger121

20/04/2018, 8:34 PM

Any pictures of the progress of Tallaghts new stand anyone?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Tallaght_Stadium.jpg/300px-Tallaght_Stadium.jpg

You�d take that now up in Finn Harps:p

nigel-harps1954

20/04/2018, 10:43 PM

You’d take that now up in Finn Harps:p

Ah we're not too far off that at present!

ForzaHoop

21/04/2018, 9:21 PM

News to come soon :) NH

Mr A

27/04/2018, 2:08 PM

This is not a surprise, but still very disappointing. Potentially damaging for other LOI clubs applying for funding.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bray-wanderers-sanctioned-for-missing-state-funds-9xkhq90nk

Bray Wanderers has been sanctioned by the government after an investigation found that tens of thousands of euros in state grant funding was unaccounted for, The Times can disclose.

The Department of Sport began an inquiry into the club more than two years ago over apparent irregularities in the claiming of more than €450,000 for work at the club’s grounds.

sbgawa

27/04/2018, 2:49 PM

EatYerGreens

27/04/2018, 3:43 PM

very light on detail a figure of 450000 is thrown out then they talk about an invoice for 32k. Pretty all over the place article really
Either way u are right about damage to other LOI clubs and might be part of the many reasons why the Dept of Sport are so scrooge like with LOI compared to GAA

I think we al know the real reason why the LOI doesn't receive the same government largesse as the GAA does. And it's got nothing to do with Bray Wanderers.