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Ah, they're two different things.
Promoted sides are left to fight for themselves and relegated sides too - which is why some sides are yo-yo clubs too good for one league and not good enough for the next level up. Boostings are generally where a team has been manager-less or inactive for a long time missing Change Reports and then a new manager comes in.
In order to make that team at least competitive for the new manager, they can be boosted to the average skill level of that league by the admin.
Just wondering- is it potentially a bad idea to accept friendlies against teams from higher divisions? Won't the inevitable hammerings just wreck a lot of players form?
sligoman
28/09/2009, 4:45 PM
There's been 2 new teams since the season ended, I've boosted them as they're going to be going into Division 2 and all the other teams there have been around for a season now. Should I boost any others?
There's 31 teams now, so to make things even I think I'll de-activate the manager who's been inactive the longest length of time, which is thischarmingman. Then I'll create a new season with 3 divisions of 10, 3 up and 3 down playing twice a week, same as this season then. That ok with everyone?
superfrank
28/09/2009, 4:47 PM
Sounds good to me.
DmanDmythDledge
28/09/2009, 5:18 PM
Just wondering- is it potentially a bad idea to accept friendlies against teams from higher divisions? Won't the inevitable hammerings just wreck a lot of players form?
No. :)
Originally posted by: iwe
The form is affected by the performance in the games and in some aspect the results of the game. There are a lot of factors involved but to be general you can take this as a fact:
1) The size of the form changes are depending on the player's current form. If the player gets a positive affect on the form the form change is percentage of the form the player doesn't (the form left to 20 form bars). If the player gets a negative affect on the form the form change is percentage of the form the player current has. This means that if a player has a high form the form reductions will be bigger and the form increases will be smaller and vice versa.
2) Directly after the match all players in the squad will get a normal form update that has nothing to do with the match itself and is only depending on the players' hidden form tendency and a random value. This normal update will mostly have greater affect than any form affect due to the match.
3) The form changes due to performances and results in a match are depending on you and your opponents team strength. If you play a match against a team that is weaker than your team the team is expected to win and therefore the form will not be affected very much if you win. But if your team play against a stronger opponent the form increase if you win will be greater. This also works vice versa so if you lose against a weaker team the negative affect on the players will be greater.
This means that if you have are weak team you will NOT get affected by the losses as much. And if you have a really strong team you will not gain very much form when you win or perform well cause you are expected to win.
4) The team parts has some simple mission (very general speaking)
* The goalkeeper is supposed to prevent the opponents from scoring on the chances they have created
* The defenders is supposed to prevent the opponents from creating chances
* The midfielders are supposed to create chances
* The forwards are supposed to score on the chances
If a team part succeed in its "mission" the players in that team part will get a positive affect on the form proportional to the extent of the success.
This means that if the team creates 15 chances and no goals. The midfielders will get a quite a significant form increase but the forwards will get quite a significant form reduction.
The actual result of the game, if you win or you lose or the match ends in a draw is NOT very important to the form changes.
Conclusion:
The form changes due to match performances are depending on your opponent. If you win against teams that are stronger then yes you will get a bigger positive affect in the player's form. But if you lose a match against a stronger opponent you might still get a positive affect on the players' form if the team made a good performance. The form changes are depending on your team's performance compared to what was expected from the team against that opponent.
There's been 2 new teams since the season ended, I've boosted them as they're going to be going into Division 2 and all the other teams there have been around for a season now. Should I boost any others?
There's 31 teams now, so to make things even I think I'll de-activate the manager who's been inactive the longest length of time, which is thischarmingman. Then I'll create a new season with 3 divisions of 10, 3 up and 3 down playing twice a week, same as this season then. That ok with everyone?
Are UCD getting deleted? :)
Bluebeard
28/09/2009, 6:49 PM
Are UCD getting deleted? :)
Is the boss man really in? I'd say give TCM a shout before deleting him - he was reasonably active for a bit, I thought
thischarmingman
28/09/2009, 6:55 PM
There's been 2 new teams since the season ended, I've boosted them as they're going to be going into Division 2 and all the other teams there have been around for a season now. Should I boost any others?
There's 31 teams now, so to make things even I think I'll de-activate the manager who's been inactive the longest length of time, which is thischarmingman. Then I'll create a new season with 3 divisions of 10, 3 up and 3 down playing twice a week, same as this season then. That ok with everyone?
Sorry, I've had a million and one things on lately and tended to forget all about it, can I have another chance? I'll set an alarm every match day, an alarm goddammit!*
Is the boss man really in? I'd say give TCM a shout before deleting him - he was reasonably active for a bit, I thought
Ta, I know who my friends are now. :p
*If it's already been allocated to someone else, it's fine, it's the fairest way, but if it's possible I'd like to keep my team.
dancinpants
28/09/2009, 6:55 PM
Many of my four teams do I lose if let my VIP run out? 2 is it? Seriously losing my interest in this game :o > So maybe just the two teams will be enough for me.
sligoman
28/09/2009, 7:04 PM
Sorry, I've had a million and one things on lately and tended to forget all about it, can I have another chance? I'll set an alarm every match day, an alarm goddammit!*
Ta, I know who my friends are now. :p
*If it's already been allocated to someone else, it's fine, it's the fairest way, but if it's possible I'd like to keep my team.Nah that's grand if you want to stay on. I'll have a look at the next most inactive team.
holidaysong
28/09/2009, 7:54 PM
I'd delete UCD before deactivating anyone else..
Bluebeard
28/09/2009, 8:57 PM
They really did nothing for the Premier this season - won a couple of games and just folded. So much for the team that would last 1000 years. Is Dahamsta actually managing them in anything other than name? If he is, fair enough. But if he is not interested - good night.
DmanDmythDledge
28/09/2009, 9:55 PM
They really did nothing for the Premier this season - won a couple of games and just folded. So much for the team that would last 1000 years. Is Dahamsta actually managing them in anything other than name? If he is, fair enough. But if he is not interested - good night.
I was keeping an eye on them and form was always ****e and no line up set.
sligoman
28/09/2009, 11:40 PM
I'd delete UCD before deactivating anyone else..Yeah, no idea who's in control of them but whoever it is, they dont seem to be active at all really. Although they did log in on the 23rd after I sent a reminder...
passinginterest
29/09/2009, 9:31 AM
Not too happy with my change report, only 6 visible increases, at least I had no neagative ones I suppose.
Squad is very thin and a really need a quality young striker, there's a real danger the three older lads might retire at the end of the season.
Any VIPS interested my 7 skilled 24 year old striker is for sale, he's got a good record for me and he's a leader, he'd do very well in the lower divisions.
Jeez, I only had 3 visible increases even though nearly everybody got the wee plus sign :(
passinginterest
29/09/2009, 9:36 AM
Jeez, I only had 3 visible increases even though nearly everybody got the wee plus sign :(
Thanks, I feel better now :)
Decent result against Harps for me there. Was totally confused for most of the match though :)
DmanDmythDledge
29/09/2009, 7:17 PM
Jeez, I only had 3 visible increases even though nearly everybody got the wee plus sign :(
15 average form is what you should be aiming for really. Bit higher for players that are 16-20 and lower for late 20s upward.
Infadel
29/09/2009, 7:22 PM
Has anyone ever waited 31 days for a youth only to find out they have 2 skill bars, are injury prone and for some reason their first name is Felix even though Slovak names are set.
DmanDmythDledge
29/09/2009, 7:23 PM
That's what most people get Infadel.
Many of my four teams do I lose if let my VIP run out? 2 is it? Seriously losing my interest in this game :o > So maybe just the two teams will be enough for me.
Your xpert rating is at 100; you need 95 to have two private league teams so when your VIP runs out you would lose the team that has it's change report next. You'd need an xpert rating of 115 to keep all of your sides.
Dillonman
29/09/2009, 10:32 PM
So when is the new season guna kick off?! bad hammering tonight for me, 4nil at home!
dancinpants
29/09/2009, 10:34 PM
That's what most people get Infadel.
Your xpert rating is at 100; you need 95 to have two private league teams so when your VIP runs out you would lose the team that has it's change report next. You'd need an xpert rating of 115 to keep all of your sides.
Cheers Dman. Don't want all 4 teams...can't be arsed juggling them anymore.
Ouch! There's a tactic I won't be trying again!
Ah yes, 343. :)
I'm really surprised though..I forgot to set tactics and left out a few players I wanted to play, but it turned around some red arrows.
DmanDmythDledge
04/10/2009, 12:53 AM
Ouch! There's a tactic I won't be trying again!
What playing style did you use? 343 is actually quite good against 352, it just would have needed defensive playing style (perhaps even very defensive due to the difference in the strength of each side).
343 normal. 6-0 result, but obviously strength difference over-rides pretty much everything except the form gain for both sides.
Wanted to play Hedman, Cobh and Haggander, but forgot and had youths in...didn't even put in a playmaker. :o
I actually threw in a good few of my own young lads seeing as it's preseason and they could do with a lift.
Still, it seems to have helped my form if anything, weirdly enough.
Nice win against Dillonman in pre season for me. I see I have the famous UCD in the first game of the season.
DmanDmythDledge
04/10/2009, 4:14 PM
343 normal. 6-0 result, but obviously strength difference over-rides pretty much everything except the form gain for both sides.
Aye, true. Just making a general point on the use of it though. :) A particular formation is never too defensive or offensive to use, whether that be at home or away in >90% of situations as long as you get the playing style correct.
Played against another 3-4-3 normal today in the Master League. 4-1 hammering. More of that please - on the back of a 2-3 win against 4-3-3 last week with me playing offensive 3-5-2 away. I love playing 4-3-3 or 3-4-3 :D
They were fairly old though..they've three 39 year olds in their squad.
Bluebeard
05/10/2009, 6:52 AM
Played against another 3-4-3 normal today in the Master League. 4-1 hammering. More of that please - on the back of a 2-3 win against 4-3-3 last week with me playing offensive 3-5-2 away. I love playing 4-3-3 or 3-4-3 :D
They were fairly old though..they've three 39 year olds in their squad.
It wasn't one of Cici's famous retirement homes was it:D
Somebody accept a friendly with me FFS, I promise not to humiliate you too badly :)
Conroy
10/10/2009, 4:25 PM
First game tonight Vs AthloneTownFC. Que me getting beat 2-0:confused:
5-1, that will do nicely....:)
Conroy
10/10/2009, 11:49 PM
First game tonight Vs AthloneTownFC. Que me getting beat 2-0:confused:
Got the scoreline right at least,
DmanDmythDledge
10/10/2009, 11:52 PM
Played against another 3-4-3 normal today in the Master League. 4-1 hammering.
Normal with 343 away though is suicide unless you are definitely the stronger team.
dancinpants
11/10/2009, 2:05 AM
dfx I don't think tactics is enoughh to warrant a 6-2 mauling. Is form really low? Jesus, completely over shadows our win over forest :D
Burts are obviously to be watched...strong midfield and forward ratings. DBS back to their best? And GoS start with an impressive draw at Loftys. This could be a really interesting season - might be worth going VIP again. Mind you results are improved since I dropped it. lol
Bluebeard
11/10/2009, 8:57 PM
Happy result yesterday. Probably worth the draw too, what's more: first day luck. Well, Wexford will be a different proposition, I fear.
dfx I don't think tactics is enoughh to warrant a 6-2 mauling. Is form really low? Jesus, completely over shadows our win over forest :D
Burts are obviously to be watched...strong midfield and forward ratings. DBS back to their best? And GoS start with an impressive draw at Loftys. This could be a really interesting season - might be worth going VIP again. Mind you results are improved since I dropped it. lol
We won 3-6 three days beforehand with the exact same team but with tactics.
The default tactics are set to offensive..which is why we gave away so many chances and no Cobh, Breen on low form, Melet etc.
Normal with 343 away though is suicide unless you are definitely the stronger team.
Same team went 343 this week away against our main rivals who went 352 like me and a similar skill level to us. They were held to a 2-2 draw having created double the chances..so obviously it does work.
Infadel
13/10/2009, 6:36 PM
Oh lovely my 5 man very defensive tactics work again:)
EDIT: Just realised I'm playing my 3rd away game in a row this Saturady what is up with the league fixtures?
centre mid
13/10/2009, 6:39 PM
disaster, lost again. spent a fortune on a midfielder and he gets injured in the first half
Need to strenghten my midfield.
Dillonman
13/10/2009, 9:42 PM
Oh lovely my 5 man very defensive tactics work again:)
EDIT: Just realised I'm playing my 3rd away game in a row this Saturady what is up with the league fixtures?
Im the same, tis a joke, 3 games in a row away, would have rathered them at home!
Bluebeard
13/10/2009, 10:36 PM
Im the same, tis a joke, 3 games in a row away, would have rathered them at home!
I'll tell you what. To make up for this, how about I let you have your final three games of the season at home instead?
DmanDmythDledge
13/10/2009, 11:29 PM
Need to strenghten my midfield.
It's not that bad...but you have way to many. 6 would be standard, 7 should be the most you have at any time depending on how many youths you have. I'd sell three of them and buy a a few youths there as you only have a 19/5 for the future.
It is nice to see Sligo back :)
holidaysong
14/10/2009, 1:44 PM
If I get promoted this year I think I'll change my name to Yo-Yo Football Club..
Bluebeard
14/10/2009, 3:16 PM
Or you could call them Bouncebackability AFC!
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