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sligoman
22/02/2010, 9:05 PM
Delighted with this news, didn't think the FAI/Licence committee would have had the balls to do it. RIP Cork City.
weecountyman
22/02/2010, 9:06 PM
Em, one thing - does this mean that finally Roddy has been relegated with a club :-)

Seriously though, I've a mixed feeling over all of this. Dundalk will be in Europe, so that's brilliant. Howevere there has been so much said and done with alot of hurt and pain, not to mention the situation Bray now find themselves in. I hope to wake up in the morning knowing that this is the end of the saga, or is there going to be a whole new twist as the sun rises over Dungarvan?
Schumi
22/02/2010, 9:08 PM
Wow, the right decision! Big job ahead for the Foras guys, any idea what the new club will be called?
El-Pietro
22/02/2010, 9:09 PM
Stunned. I am happy that in the end I suppose a fair decision as regards the rest of the league has been made

But John Delaney et al have a lot to answer for allowing this to drag out a week longer than it needed to. I'm sure Bray are pretty angry at the FAI for not making this decision last week, as are we. The amount of work we have to do from here on is enormous, but well manage it. The amount of work put in the last week by a number of people on the FORAS BoM which has now gone to waste is just not right. People have lives, families, jobs but that was all put to the background this week and for what?

Shame on you FAI

congrats to Bray, third time lucky for you guys
James
22/02/2010, 9:09 PM
Cork City Foras Co-op
El-Pietro
22/02/2010, 9:10 PM
Cork City Foras Co-op
dcfc1928
22/02/2010, 9:12 PM
I am in shock that the ILC have come to the correct decision, in saying that I applaud them for having the goolies to make that decision when we all expected a massive fudge.

Welcome to the LOI Foras.
Nedser
22/02/2010, 9:13 PM
Cork City Foras Co-op

Is that serious? Do you think you'll be allowed start a new club called Cork City FC without buying that name? I know it's not technically exactly the same name, but still, It's clear that the intention is to have the new club commonly called Cork City FC. If you have looked into it and been advised you can do it then good work, but if not this could be yet another excuse for a legal tangle with TNB.
sligoman
22/02/2010, 9:13 PM
Cork City Foras Co-op:o, couldn't have thought of anything better? Sounds like some business, not a football club.
James
22/02/2010, 9:15 PM
Is that serious? Do you think you'll be allowed start a new club called Cork City FC without buying that name? I know it's not technically exactly the same name, but still, It's clear that the intention is to have the new club commonly called Cork City FC. If you have looked into it and been advised you can do it then good work, but if not this could be yet another excuse for a legal tangle with TNB.

already been looked at legally.
we are a group called Foras, we're a supporters Co-op and from Cork City.
I think the name encompasses everything about us very well non!
A N Mouse
22/02/2010, 9:16 PM
The next big question: The new Derry City had to take on the old club's 'football debts'.

Will the new Cork City have to do the same?

As was pointed out on the other thread, quite apart from being the right thing to do, that was necessary to keep the ifa sweet.
Doomofman
22/02/2010, 9:18 PM
In the words of Wayne Campbell... "Denied!"
tonydaly
22/02/2010, 9:19 PM
:o, couldn't have thought of anything better? Sounds like some business, not a football club.

Hopefully it will be run like a proper business which I'm sure it will:)
Boo_Boy
22/02/2010, 9:24 PM
Dundalk will be in Europe, so that's brilliant

So is this definite?. Is there not some issue with Ian Fosters UEFA licence?
superfrank
22/02/2010, 9:25 PM
Managers without full UEFA licences have managed in UEFA competitions before. Just this year, Markus Babbel was manager of Stuttgart in the CL, even though he's still not fully qualified.
grayzer1888
22/02/2010, 9:26 PM
Good luck to the Cork lads in the first division. Its gonna be fairly tight at the top there with Cork, Derry and Shels pushing for promotion.
sligoman
22/02/2010, 9:28 PM
Its gonna be fairly tight at the top there with Cork, Derry and Shels pushing for promotion.Is that the new club with no players yet? What makes you think they'll be pushing for promotion?
dcfc1928
22/02/2010, 9:32 PM
Is that the new club with no players yet? What makes you think they'll be pushing for promotion?

I'm sure there will be a flurry of activity over the coming couple of weeks and a decent squad can be assembled. Remember also that the old Cork City will in all probability not exist soon and the players tied to that club will become free agents. I just hope Cork City Foras Co-op steer clear of Roddy!
GlasnevinRed
22/02/2010, 9:37 PM
Cork City Foras Co-op

So CCFC FC??
Jofspring
22/02/2010, 9:38 PM
Don't know about the new Cork team challenging this season. Surely Foras will be starting on a very modest budget and building on that every year like all the other clubs in the league that are trying to do things right are doing. They will assemble a decent team but with the time left to get players, a manager and sort out everything else that needs to be done i can't see them challenging Waterford Utd or Derry, both of whom i think look the best so far. Monaghan, Limerick, Athlone, Longford looking decent outside of that.
El-Pietro
22/02/2010, 9:39 PM
well be a mid table side this season - very small budget - think its in and around 2k a week from what i can remember
I have no idea how that compares to other clubs in the first

Positives: Two trips to Galway in the summer, two trips to Derry, trips to Donegal, Athlone,
the legendary Mon Dogs
3 grudge games against the Sheliban
Munster Derbies against Limerick and Waterford
Oh, and we own our own club
plenty of opportunities to say - "I'm never going back there again" before inevitably going back there again - we call this the RSC effect, also commonly seen among fans leaving United Park
Dodge
22/02/2010, 9:46 PM
Was pointed last week that it may have been that the licence decision couldn't have been made due to
legal proceedings. Seems that was the case.

Well done to committee. Justice done it would appear

The FORAS committe have done Trojan work so far and I hope they continue in that way. Good luck to them (whatever the name)
Jofspring
22/02/2010, 9:47 PM
well be a mid table side this season - very small budget - think its in and around 2k a week from what i can remember
I have no idea how that compares to other clubs in the first

Positives: Two trips to Galway in the summer, two trips to Derry, trips to Donegal, Athlone,
the legendary Mon Dogs
3 grudge games against the Sheliban
Munster Derbies against Limerick and Waterford
Oh, and we own our own club
plenty of opportunities to say - "I'm never going back there again" before inevitably going back there again - we call this the RSC effect, also commonly seen among fans leaving United Park

2k is about what Limerick played off last year and did alright off a lot of young local players. Have added a small bit to that this season.

A lot of positives for Cork fans to look forward to, but it will take patience.
The Lep
22/02/2010, 9:50 PM
So CCFC FC??

No it will be CCFCO FC
Paddyfield
22/02/2010, 9:51 PM
The Premier League will be a Leinster / Connacht affair as there will be no clubs from Ulster or Munster in it. Shocking really.
Longfordian
22/02/2010, 9:54 PM
We're operating off about 2.5k per week but I guess we had more time to plan. I would think certainly the First Division average is under 3 per week but it may be the lack of time that counts against them initially.
Dodge
22/02/2010, 9:57 PM
Cork would also have access to a decent pool of players though.
Bray-Z
22/02/2010, 9:57 PM
Delighted the right decision was made. Hand on heart I was expecting Cork to get the Prem license, thought the FAI would bottle it for sure but this humble pie is delicious.
Jofspring
22/02/2010, 10:05 PM
The Premier League will be a Leinster / Connacht affair as there will be no clubs from Ulster or Munster in it. Shocking really.

Slowly but surely that will hopefully change over the coming years with the good work a lot of clubs in the First Division are trying to do. That or we will be looking at a 16 team premier sooner rather than later.
Hairy Bowsie
22/02/2010, 10:06 PM
Stunned.

This whole sorry saga will live long in my memory unfortunately but at least now i can get back to hating Cork, or as i shall call them from now on Coco pops FC
dahamsta
22/02/2010, 10:10 PM
Best of luck to the new Cork City and congrats to FORAS on a job well done.
El-Pietro
22/02/2010, 10:10 PM
Cork would also have access to a decent pool of players though.
You would have to imagine that certain players who would have been playing for us in the Premier full time will have little choice but ti play part time/amatuer for us at least until June. They won't have a whole lot of options

Captain Killer I say!
paudie
22/02/2010, 10:19 PM
The Premier League will be a Leinster / Connacht affair as there will be no clubs from Ulster or Munster in it. Shocking really.

Like the FAI's version of the Leinster Hurling championship.

Galway and Sligo are special invitees!
Louth4sam
22/02/2010, 10:24 PM
The Premier League will be a Leinster / Connacht affair as there will be no clubs from Ulster or Munster in it. Shocking really.

Why? The other clubs are either cheats or not good enough!

Best of luck to Foras. I think they have gotten a lucky escape as if they had of gone in with the consortium it would have ended very badly in a year or two with no plan b.
SMorgan
22/02/2010, 10:24 PM
Where does this all leave Roddy Collins?

I assume that the club that'll be formed by FORAS will be a new entity and Collins won't necessarily be the new Manager. Is this correct?
El-Pietro
22/02/2010, 10:26 PM
Roddy can take a running jump right behind his bum chum Tommy
Longfordian
22/02/2010, 10:26 PM
Correct. Different company no
existing contracts need to be enforced.
Mad Moose
22/02/2010, 10:28 PM
The great news is there is little chance Roddy will still have a job. There isn't a chance of anybody wanted him around in the first instance and secondly given he was reportedly on 500 Euro a week thats a quarter the planned weekly budget. Notwithstanding his contract wasn't binding. No doubt he'll leave a trail of debts and unpaid bills. No doubt he's a mouthpiece in influencing the seeking of a high court injunction. I wouldn't wish him on my worst enemy.

177 pages of LoI gold.
sligoman
22/02/2010, 10:33 PM
Roddy to go back to Malta? :p
Doomofman
22/02/2010, 10:34 PM
Roddy to go back to Malta? :p

Isn't he still technically under contract with them?
Hairy Bowsie
22/02/2010, 10:36 PM
Isn't he still technically under contract with them?

Until tomorrow when CCFC is wound up, which seems inevitable now.
Doomofman
22/02/2010, 10:40 PM
Until tomorrow when CCFC is wound up, which seems inevitable now.

No I meant with Floriana...
sligoman
22/02/2010, 10:41 PM
Isn't he still technically under contract with them?Yep. Just suspended from what I remember.
avvenalaf
22/02/2010, 10:50 PM
Laughing their ******es off in Floriana tonight. Roddy for Kilkenny Gaelic Football team. 'It's a big club etc. etc.'
Scrufil
22/02/2010, 10:52 PM
Why is everyone so happy with the ILC? So far I cannot see any official statement stating which league Bray are playing in next year. Why was this not sorted tonight? They could decide to give this to any first Division club who has a Premier licence.
Dunny
22/02/2010, 10:55 PM
All the best to the FORAS club!
Nedser
22/02/2010, 10:58 PM
The Premier League will be a Leinster / Connacht affair as there will be no clubs from Ulster or Munster in it. Shocking really.

The Munster bit is shocking, but the Ulster bit isn't when you think about it. AFAIK, there was never an Ulster team in the LOI until Harps joined in the 70s. Then once a 2nd tier was introduced, again there was no Ulster team in the Premier until Derry got promoted a few years later, and most seasons since they have been the only Ulster team in the top flight.

So over the history of the LOI, the top division has more often than not had no Ulster teams. At the end of the day, only 3 counties in Ulster fall within the FAI's jurisdiction, and all of them have small, primarily rural populations. If anything, Ulster is punching well above its weight by having any teams at all in the LOI.

Munster is a very different matter though.
osarusan
22/02/2010, 10:58 PM
Why is everyone so happy with the ILC? So far I cannot see any official statement stating which league Bray are playing in next year. Why was this not sorted tonight? They could decide to give this to any first Division club who has a Premier licence.It's not their job to decide who takes Cork's place though, I think. All they do is decide if a club gets a license of not, and they've surprised a lot of people by rejecting Cork.
Longfordian
22/02/2010, 11:01 PM
It's Bray's place due to them being the highest finishers on the field. Unless they give us the place for just generally being class. Could live with that.
Nedser
22/02/2010, 11:01 PM
Why is everyone so happy with the ILC? So far I cannot see any official statement stating which league Bray are playing in next year. Why was this not sorted tonight? They could decide to give this to any first Division club who has a Premier licence.

That decision has nothing to do with the ILC. They just award licences, and they have awared a Premier licence to Bray, and several other 1st div clubs. The FAI have to decide who replaces Cork City in the Premier. Hard to see how that could be anyone other than Bray, given they were the club to miss out on the Premier in the play off final.

I agree it would have been preferable if it had been announced tonight, but to be fair, it's a different institution making that call, they couldn't make it until the ILC made theirs, and that didn't happen until late evening tonight, so it's not unreasonable that it can't happen til the morning,