View Full Version : Cork City denied a licence; club to be wound up; FORAS to enter First Division
The previous question wasnt answered though.. If Foras get ownership of the club would they keep Ploddy Collins?
Silly to eve ask given that noone knows who'd be running anything yet.
There'd be nothing to keep though, his contract would be invalid and I doubt he could be afforded by and A championship team.
id imagine a local partime manager would be the only option.
However, as i said those would be decisions for the person put in charge of running the club day to day, general manager and board of management. No member could tell you that now given that we dont even know who'd be on the board or GM.
Martinho II
15/01/2010, 7:24 PM
I would safely say that Dave Hill will be one of the candidates if the new Cork City gets approval?? He has already managed in the A league with Cobh Ramblers which would be a help to ye if ye get into the A league..
The Lep
15/01/2010, 7:46 PM
Who gets their euro place if they are refused into the compo. ?
Onefootednopace
15/01/2010, 8:33 PM
Who gets their euro place if they are refused into the compo. ?
The wounded animal is struggling for its existence and the vultures are circling already.
http://www.corkcityfc.ie/
Hehehe.
The Lep
15/01/2010, 8:40 PM
Will it be a team from our league or will it be given to somewhere else ?
Who gets their euro place if they are refused into the compo. ?
Pats , its like a rule.
Schumi
15/01/2010, 9:02 PM
Will it be a team from our league or will it be given to somewhere else ?
I think Moldova get first refusal.
holidaysong
15/01/2010, 9:27 PM
Who gets their euro place if they are refused into the compo. ?
Dundalk FC get it.
passerrby
15/01/2010, 9:31 PM
Dundalk FC get it.
or else
Honestly am sick to death of Tommy's " Cork City Fc" at this stage. He has made us the laughing stock of the league and i'm hopeing that the club will be liquidated. Starting from scratch with FORAS or whoever we can try and secure a long term future for football in Cork.
paudie
16/01/2010, 12:02 AM
Dundalk FC get it.
provided ye get the Euro licence of course;)
Hairy Bowsie
16/01/2010, 12:40 AM
Honestly am sick to death of Tommy's "Cork City Fc" at this stage. He has made us the laughing stock of the league
Credit where it's due though because given the last 10 years of this league or from The Marney affair until now and everything in between, thats no mean feat.
Magicme
16/01/2010, 1:28 AM
http://www.corkcityfc.ie/
Hehehe.
I know I have been drinking. I clicked on the link and was like, "hey there is nothing there, what is Mr A doing....oh right"
I bet they could hear the penny drop in Cork.
holidaysong
16/01/2010, 5:21 AM
provided ye get the Euro licence of course;)
Didn't you see the post by passerrby!? :eek:
weecountyman
16/01/2010, 6:07 AM
I don't get this, a couple of pages back the website was paid for, now it's not! Tom and co decided to humiliate the webmaster into panicking and not accepting payment or something?
Roddy had lots to say on radio last evening, newstalk, haven't heard it in full, anyone know what he was on about?
tiktok
16/01/2010, 7:49 AM
I don't get this, a couple of pages back the website was paid for, now it's not! Tom and co decided to humiliate the webmaster into panicking and not accepting payment or something?
Webmaster has/had no reason to panic.
He requested money owed and was badly treated so took down the site, he's such a good guy that he left email addresses up so that commercial manager etc., could continue to do their job. Unfortunately, staff were instructed to use those accounts to send out the disgraceful statement, so ghe email addresses are gone down too.
Also, it was mentioned Previously, Tom Coughlan didn't pay the money owed last time. Danny Drew did.
passerrby
16/01/2010, 10:34 AM
Webmaster has/had no reason to panic.
He requested money owed and was badly treated so took down the site, he's such a good guy that he left email addresses up so that commercial manager etc., could continue to do their job. Unfortunately, staff were instructed to use those accounts to send out the disgraceful statement, so ghe email addresses are gone down too.
Also, it was mentioned Previously, Tom Coughlan didn't pay the money owed last time. Danny Drew did.
what a shoddy way to treat a loyal worker and supporter. anyway was reading todays papers and John D is calling for tnb to stand down, at this stage will that save cork.
Longfordian
16/01/2010, 10:41 AM
I don't think Tom is paying too much attention to the wishes of the FAI these days. The only way he'll be gone is if Cork are wound up. As said previously he'll no doubt seek to have the winding up hearing adjourned for a few weeks. If they don't get a Licence I'd expect another court challenge, on whatever flimsy grounds he can come up with.
SMorgan
16/01/2010, 11:34 AM
Roddy had lots to say on radio last evening, newstalk, haven't heard it in full, anyone know what he was on about?
What programme on NewsTalk was he on??
Off the Ball???
Buile Shuibhne
16/01/2010, 12:40 PM
Didn't Cobh not get any licence for 2009 and yet end up in the A League? Worst case scenario for Cork - no licence but TNB allowed operate in the A League.
Though I think Revenue will take care of everything.
Presumably under licencing you need a current tax clearance cert to get a licence in either the Premier / 1st / A league?
Would TNB have one at any stage recently that he could have submitted as part of his licence application?
John83
16/01/2010, 1:57 PM
Presumably under licencing you need a current tax clearance cert to get a licence in either the Premier / 1st / A league?
Would TNB have one at any stage recently that he could have submitted as part of his licence application?
I think Cobh didn't have one when they were relegated (I'm open to correction here), which would imply that you can, in practice at least, play in the A league without one.
I don't think so, not with a winding up order just after going up. A clearance cert would have to be fairly recent for Licensing, and it looks like some tax has been owed for a while.
tiktok
16/01/2010, 3:19 PM
The 1st of February winding up date and getting adjournments is a red herring.
It's the revenue brining the case, so presumably he can't have a Tax Clearance Certificate.
If he doesn't pay the Revenue off to submit a tax clearance cert to the FAI by January 29th, it's irrelevant and the FAI have to be seen to follow their own rules.
His only out is the Kevin Long money from Burnley that is due if it covers the revenue bill, even then though, if enough creditors join the petition, it's game over for CCIFL.
Cork City will be around for a long long time though, whatever TNB does.
DmanDmythDledge
16/01/2010, 3:51 PM
Statement Regarding Club Website
Cork City Football Club regrets to advise that our website is currently unavailable. This is as a result of correspondence sent to the club’s webmaster requesting his VAT number and inviting him to tender for the 2010 season. This correspondence is consistent with that sent to all service providers to the football club, and underlines our efforts to reduce costs and increase efficiencies for the coming season.
We would like to thank our former webmaster for his contribution to the club over the years, however in the interests of transparency such arrangements as may have existed in the past can no longer do so into the future.
The club hopes to launch a new official website shortly.
What does that actually mean?
John83
16/01/2010, 3:57 PM
What does that actually mean?
Cork can't afford to pay for their website. Here, look at the monkey. Look at the silly monkey!
the FAI have to be seen to follow their own rules.
Is that the new thing now?
tiktok
16/01/2010, 10:20 PM
Is that the new thing now?
I've tasted it, it's the future!
weecountyman
17/01/2010, 8:06 AM
CCFC's "boss" is on 98fm this morning, this is going to be interesting!
tiktok
17/01/2010, 8:59 AM
More or less a Live Feed:
Delaney is trying to rally supporters against Tom Coughlan, there's interference from outside
Players are confused as to the situation because of Delaney/FAI antics, making his job more difficult
Cork will be thrown out of the league if Delaney gets his way
No competition from other clubs to sign players down in Cork so a great opportunity
Wishes the media and the FAI would let the owner get on with it
Interview with the Mail on Sunday with him today is interesting apparently
A premier League without Cork is a Leinster Senior League
1st division more like an All-Ireland League with a good geographical spread of clubs
10 teams in the premier from Leinster, also Sligo and Galway are in there apparently
Floriana was brilliant, would have loved to stay for three years but they couldn't fulfil agreed financial obligations
Valetta would win the League of Ireland, but overall the league wouldn't be as strong as LoI
Derek O'Brien was due to sign with Floriana but they couldn't afford him, by the way Jordi Cruyff is a gentleman, his dad too.
Moving down to Cork today, Tommy Dunne is picking him up this morning
You HAVE to locate yourself in the area that you are going to work.
Everyone around Cork that he's spoken to is happy that the club is going to move forward :D
Looking forward to getting started, great opoortunity, having a monopoly with players in Cork region
No-one mentions that he's won a double, Sean Ryan didn't mention him in great Bohs manager list :D
He'll do a job for Cork City in whatever League.
Aparently the presenter misses Roddy too!
Buile Shuibhne
17/01/2010, 9:04 AM
Article in the Sindo pretty much sums it up:
http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/cork-face-axe-over-missed-payments-2017532.html?
tiktok
17/01/2010, 9:13 AM
http://en.tackfilm.se/?id=1263409862830RA34&q=low
Port Saint
17/01/2010, 9:40 AM
Article in the Sindo pretty much sums it up:
http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/cork-face-axe-over-missed-payments-2017532.html?
If Cork City fail to secure a licence to operate in the league, their place in the Europa League would then go to Sligo Rovers, whose manager Paul Cook has the Pro Licence.
Why Sligo? does Dundalk manager not have Pro Licence and how the **** does the great Roddy not have his Pro licence and have a job that requires one?
MeathDrog
17/01/2010, 9:46 AM
why sligo? Does dundalk manager not have pro licence and how the **** does the great roddy not have his pro licence and have a job that requires one?
nooo one knooows>
No, Foster doesnt have his Pro licence
1st time post
17/01/2010, 4:43 PM
Would be a great way to get in!!Regardless of this pro-licence rule,correct me if im wrong, but the year Shels got relegated didnt Pats get into Europe on the basis of been Cup Finalists even though we had finished ahead of them in the league??
Or was it just the Setanta???!!
Dillonman
17/01/2010, 4:57 PM
Would be a great way to get in!!Regardless of this pro-licence rule,correct me if im wrong, but the year Shels got relegated didnt Pats get into Europe on the basis of been Cup Finalists even though we had finished ahead of them in the league??
Or was it just the Setanta???!!
I dont think its been offered to the cup runners up on that basis. As Cork may not be about, it will go to Derry, but they have since been kicked out it'll go to the next positioned team in the league which is Dundalk, but we may not get it as Foster is not fully qualified to UEFA standards so it will go to the next placed team, who are Sligo Rovers!
tiktok
17/01/2010, 6:44 PM
I dont think its been offered to the cup runners up on that basis. As Cork may not be about, it will go to Derry, but they have since been kicked out it'll go to the next positioned team in the league which is Dundalk, but we may not get it as Foster is not fully qualified to UEFA standards so it will go to the next placed team, who are Sligo Rovers!
Foster can do a course, it's not grounds for denying Dundalk a place
1st time post
17/01/2010, 7:13 PM
I dont think its been offered to the cup runners up on that basis. As Cork may not be about, it will go to Derry, but they have since been kicked out it'll go to the next positioned team in the league which is Dundalk, but we may not get it as Foster is not fully qualified to UEFA standards so it will go to the next placed team, who are Sligo Rovers!
Ya i understand that but just asking why that particular year(if it happened i cant remember was it jus setanta or the setanta and europe)did Pats get offered that place when we finished ahead if them in the league and the only thing they did that year was finish runners up in the cup??It seems to me pretty much the same situation as when shels went bust??So my points at the end of all this is if Cork did go to the wall would we be ebtitled to it anyway as Cup runners-up??
Dillonman
17/01/2010, 7:17 PM
Foster can do a course, it's not grounds for denying Dundalk a place
Well everything else is up to scratch so it must be that, thats holding it up apart from us having to play our home leg in Dublin if applicable! Otherwise if thats not the case then they are offering it to the cup runners up but I would have thought it went down the league table.
tiktok
17/01/2010, 7:21 PM
The only person to put Sligo ahead of you is the Indo article, it may be incorrect.
Ring the FAI.
That's enough Dundalk talk on the Cork City thread :p
Dillonman
17/01/2010, 7:22 PM
The only person to put Sligo ahead of you is the Indo article, it may be incorrect.
Ring the FAI.
That's enough Dundalk talk on the Cork City thread :p
Ah but it wouldnt be a dedicated thread to stay on topic!!:D
sligo23
17/01/2010, 7:23 PM
We're in the process of making a DVD to ensure that place is ours!!
PartySaint
17/01/2010, 7:31 PM
Ya i understand that but just asking why that particular year(if it happened i cant remember was it jus setanta or the setanta and europe)did Pats get offered that place when we finished ahead if them in the league and the only thing they did that year was finish runners up in the cup??It seems to me pretty much the same situation as when shels went bust??So my points at the end of all this is if Cork did go to the wall would we be ebtitled to it anyway as Cup runners-up??
Yep we lost to Derry in the final, they finished 2nd so they took Shels Champions League spot and we took Derrys Uefa Cup spot
Oh and i think we should get Corks spot because of our great results in the competition in the last 2 years, Only fair way:D
Infadel
17/01/2010, 7:38 PM
Ya i understand that but just asking why that particular year(if it happened i cant remember was it jus setanta or the setanta and europe)did Pats get offered that place when we finished ahead if them in the league and the only thing they did that year was finish runners up in the cup??It seems to me pretty much the same situation as when shels went bust??So my points at the end of all this is if Cork did go to the wall would we be ebtitled to it anyway as Cup runners-up??
Not really Sporting Fingal still qualify for Europe as cup winners. If Cork do go bust their European qualification would go to the next placed team in the league
1st time post
17/01/2010, 11:20 PM
Not really Sporting Fingal still qualify for Europe as cup winners. If Cork do go bust their European qualification would go to the next placed team in the league
See Party Saints post above as to where we could have an argument!!Thread hijacking over:D
gufcfan
18/01/2010, 3:46 AM
He is from Kerry and you know what they say about Kerry people ;)
That they are of similar intellect to people from Cork?
OneRedArmy
18/01/2010, 10:48 AM
That they are of similar intellect to people from Cork?like Cork people without shoes is the general comparison....
razor
18/01/2010, 11:46 AM
City were training in Blarney this morning
TV3 later for the details
Onefootednopace
18/01/2010, 12:03 PM
A reporter on one of the local stations here (96FM..not always the most reliable) was out in Blarney giving details on City's training session. Murray, Murphy, O' Donnell, Connor, O' Halloran and some of the fringe players from last year are reported to be at training. The reporter mentioned that Roddy's son, apparently just released by Coventry City, was also training with the players. Anyone heard of him??
Just checked the calendar....April 1st is still 10 weeks away.
weecountyman
18/01/2010, 12:14 PM
A reporter on one of the local stations here (96FM..not always the most reliable) was out in Blarney giving details on City's training session. Murray, Murphy, O' Donnell, Connor, O' Halloran and some of the fringe players from last year are reported to be at training. The reporter mentioned that Roddy's son, apparently just released by Coventry City, was also training with the players. Anyone heard of him??
Just checked the calendar....April 1st is still 10 weeks away.
The interview yesterday was a hoot, if the FAI don't throw the book at Rod and Tom then there's no justice. Roddy's son, wait for it, young Rod, is about 15, he was training down in Malta with the Floriana youths and Roddy tried to give him a contract with the seniors (the 3 foreigner rule was used as the excuse why he wasn't signed) and he was over training with his uncle in Coventry for a week. He's supposedly signed with Cherry Orchard and played, before, with Shels youths. Decent youngster, but about 5 years away from 1st Division level, then again, if CCFC are aiming for the A Championship :p
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