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tippex
11/09/2009, 6:54 PM
now would that be cadbury's fudge or that cheap Euro shop shoite?

I'd only be going with the premium fudge if I'm honest

Hairy Bowsie
11/09/2009, 8:38 PM
Frank And Irene only do premium fudge

Longfordian
11/09/2009, 8:51 PM
I'd be surprised if it shows up in the end of year accounts for Frank and Irene's little enterpise as a loan to Cork City. Expenses probably.

juan
11/09/2009, 11:22 PM
Stands to reason why a club employee was paid in cash on wednesday night from it.

don ramo
12/09/2009, 1:28 PM
jaysus i thought we made a balls of friendlies, poor Frank And Irene were they not reminded to be at the gates to get there money back,

dcfcsteve
13/09/2009, 3:44 AM
Are the FAI not taking the Celtic money?

Is that a colloquialism for 'taking the p!ss'....?

marinobohs
14/09/2009, 1:28 PM
Frank And Irene only do premium fudge
but the portions are huge;)

Mr A
15/09/2009, 10:02 AM
According to the Cork forum:
The petition has gone in, but as the courts are in recess, it'll be heard whenever they come back.

tiktok
15/09/2009, 10:15 AM
The Mathews Case will probably be heard in October/November as well it seems.

Mr A
15/09/2009, 10:35 AM
Increasingly it seems to me that it may have been better to start afresh than have this slow motion train wreck continue, especially with thon plonker at the wheel.

Ezeikial
15/09/2009, 10:43 AM
The Mathews Case will probably be heard in October/November as well it seems.

Ay idea of the size of the potential liabilities with Mathews and Farrelly?

tiktok
15/09/2009, 10:51 AM
Ay idea of the size of the potential liabilities with Mathews and Farrelly?

Farrelly's is €36,000. The award has already been won in court but not yet paid, hence the rumoured winding up order.

Mathews was rumoured to be on anything up to €150,000 with a potential two years left at the club. I guess he could look for a €300,000 award [that's the figure being bandied about most often down here] but i don't think it's as straightforward as multiplying years by wage.

Longfordian
15/09/2009, 2:05 PM
If he won his case I'd be surpised if he came out with less than 100-150k anyway, though I guess it depends what sort of cash he's earning in Drogs in terms of loss of earnings.

SMorgan
15/09/2009, 6:43 PM
According to the Cork forum:
The petition has gone in, but as the courts are in recess, it'll be heard whenever they come back.




Which could be within 10 days

http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/another-court-date-for-city-over-unpaid-farrelly-debt-1886622.html

Mr A
16/09/2009, 11:23 AM
Confirmed on CCFC forum


winding up order filed yesterday
CORK CITY INVESTMENT FC LIMITED -V- COMPANIES ACTS 1963-2009 2009/515 COS
Issue Date:
15/09/2009

More wind-ups than a Bohs-Rovers thread on foot.ie at this stage.

razor
16/09/2009, 1:34 PM
I don't even know how to feel about car crash football club anymoreIf we can just get rid of the driver then we'll be ok.

HarpoJoyce
16/09/2009, 7:39 PM
If we can just get rid of the driver then we'll be ok.

It will allow some Cork City fans to drone on.

Acornvilla
16/09/2009, 8:02 PM
ah hell there better off starting off from scratch i cant understand how owners can be so stupid as to cause such finantial problems!!

micls
16/09/2009, 8:29 PM
It will allow some Cork City fans to drone on.

:confused: What?

eamo1
16/09/2009, 10:09 PM
So how does it work,Farelly is basically saying that if they cant afford to pay 36,000 then they should be declared insolvent/bankrupt and wound up is it??

Surely Cork can get that "lovely couple" Frank And Irene to bail them out again:rolleyes:.That same couple though should then be prepared to help out other clubs in the same way such as Galway,Derry and whoever else needs it,just to show they are not biased:mad:.By rights i know they shouldnt be but if they helped one club they HAVE to help the others.

Mr A
16/09/2009, 10:12 PM
Farrelly has already won a judgement against them, but CCFC still have not stumped up. This is the last resort for a creditor to get their money so yeah, it's basically either pay up or bye, bye CCFC.

Can't see them folding over such a sum, but it'll be interesting to see if the wage bill after it is met......

HarpoJoyce
16/09/2009, 10:29 PM
Farrelly has already won a judgement against them, but CCFC still have not stumped up. This is the last resort for a creditor to get their money so yeah, it's basically either pay up or bye, bye CCFC.

Can't see them folding over such a sum, but it'll be interesting to see if the wage bill after it is met......

Rights Commissioner and his staff may be very lovely.
If it delays a football decision, then CCFC can present a case in front of the Courts.(1,2,3 or 4). Three and Four are High and Ext..Supreme respectively.

In reply to micls, a pilotless craft is a drone also you and other Cork City fans have insisted that the Creditors before Examinership were mostly fans of the club. I am very happy at least one LoI club has invested over half a million into the Exchequer alone. You should be very proud.
Next, pay and compensate your staff and ex-staff.
FORAS monies will help to compensate Farrelly, refusal shows FORAS's greed.

pineapple stu
17/09/2009, 8:39 AM
refusal shows FORAS's greed.
:rolleyes:

FORAS have - quite rightly IMO - publicly announced they are refusing to help Coughlan in any way. FORAS have no part within CCFC and I think would be doing themselves a disservice helping the current entity continue. They've already set up a fund to help players. I think your post is highly ignorant.

razor
17/09/2009, 8:42 AM
FORAS monies will help to compensate Farrelly, refusal shows FORAS's greed.I've never read such ignorant rubbish in all my life.

Macy
17/09/2009, 8:49 AM
FORAS monies will help to compensate Farrelly, refusal shows FORAS's greed.
Total rubbish, it just shows your ignorance of the situation. FORAS should be doing nothing to prop up the current regime.

tiktok
17/09/2009, 9:53 AM
Next, pay and compensate your staff and ex-staff.
FORAS monies will help to compensate Farrelly, refusal shows FORAS's greed.

The bills accrued by Cork City Investments FC Ltd. have nothing to do with FORAS, which is a completely separate entity from the club, there currently isn't even a working relationship between the two. If Cork City Investments FC Ltd., require financial support from FORAS to pay their debts, they can request it and our members will vote on that request.

As for paying staff, FORAS has established a Hardship funds for players in asociation with the PFAI and have set up a separate fund for Staff to provide bridging loans should they find themselves in difficulty.

Before you start jumping to ridiculous conclusions and throwing around accusations you could at least try to get an understanding of the facts. What you've posted shows total ignorance of the situation.

Longfordian
18/09/2009, 1:47 PM
I see in the paper today Mathews has a provisional High Court hearing date in the last week of October. Could be interesting.

Dalymountrower
18/09/2009, 4:00 PM
What would be the point for Matthews to acheive a winding -uo order against a club with no assets? Are they going to pay him in players a la bonded slavery?

Longfordian
18/09/2009, 4:02 PM
Probably hoping the FAI will bail Cork out again. Plus he really really hates TC and would be delighted to do him over once and for all. He's not looking for a winding up order yet anyway, just the judgement. I'm sure he'd take instalments.

Mr A
24/09/2009, 4:34 PM
From CCFC forum:


High Court hearing confirmed on 96FM news as October 12th.

Dyl10
24/09/2009, 9:49 PM
It's because of FORAS that the country is in the state it's in

SkStu
24/09/2009, 10:03 PM
It's because of FORAS that the country is in the state it's in

so thats where all the Celtic Tiger money is gone - FORAS has it!

Acornvilla
24/09/2009, 10:23 PM
the hoorbags!

Mr A
25/09/2009, 8:29 AM
Somebody ought to write a letter.

micls
25/09/2009, 9:51 AM
It's because of FORAS that the country is in the state it's in
Agreed :ball:

so thats where all the Celtic Tiger money is gone - FORAS has it!

Yes, and you can't have any of it, the BOM 'holiday' (emigration) to barbados is going to be sweet...

Réiteoir
25/09/2009, 10:24 AM
We should have got Colonel Gaddaffi to cover all of this in his speech to the United Nations the other day

marinobohs
25/09/2009, 11:12 AM
Somebody ought to write a letter.

way, way past that stage.... only one thing left, have a moan on FOOT.IE ! :)

pineapple stu
25/09/2009, 12:20 PM
Team bus has the players for tonight's match, but the driver ain't moving until they get paid. Rumour linky (http://www.ccfcforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=33214&hl=).

Edit - Dan Murray went on 96FM to talk about the situation, and the station managed to get the E900 needed for the trip through donations. Coughlan was in a meeting and couldn't pay; suggested they all drive. Unbelievable.

Edit edit - but the bus driver now says he wants E2,000 for the last two trips, which are also unpaid, so the team's still stuck in Cork. 2/1 for a Pat's win tonight, apparently. I'm on that now!

Edit edit edit - TNB = Tommy No Bus. :D

One of the most amazing threads I've ever read.

Best league in the world, bar none.

SeanDrog
25/09/2009, 12:59 PM
when will this Cork drama cease.

cant blame the bus driver (if true) he has a living to make and cant be driving people around for free.

eamo1
25/09/2009, 1:06 PM
The LOI is the best reality show ever,drama,suspence,no shortage of comedy,loss and all the fudge you can eat,and thats just off the pitch:).

OneRedArmy
25/09/2009, 1:07 PM
Team bus has the players for tonight's match, but the driver ain't moving until they get paid. Rumour linky (http://www.ccfcforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=33214&hl=).

Edit - Dan Murray went on 96FM to talk about the situation, and the station managed to get the E900 needed for the trip through donations. Coughlan was in a meeting and couldn't pay; suggested they all drive. Unbelievable.

Edit edit - but the bus driver now says he wants E2,000 for the last two trips, which are also unpaid, so the team's still stuck in Cork. 2/1 for a Pat's win tonight, apparently. I'm on that now!

Edit edit edit - TNB = Tommy No Bus. :D

One of the most amazing threads I've ever read.

Best league in the world, bar none.All we need now is the bus driver to take the players hostage as collateral....albeit fairly worthless collateral.

Seriously, someone should snap up the film rights quickly.

dong
25/09/2009, 1:10 PM
Brilliant stuff. Can't help now but to laugh at them. I had some sympathy for them but its long gone.
Will somebody please put them out of their misery!

micls
25/09/2009, 1:11 PM
when will this Cork drama cease.

cant blame the bus driver (if true) he has a living to make and cant be driving people around for free.

Not until Coughlan is gone anyway, and it is true.

Ash
25/09/2009, 1:14 PM
Bus paid and enroute to Dublin apparently

razor
25/09/2009, 1:29 PM
Has the man any self respect or dignity?

My heart goes out to our players.

micls
25/09/2009, 1:31 PM
Has the man any self respect or dignity?
.

No...

razor
25/09/2009, 1:34 PM
No...I know, it was a rhetorical question

tiktok
25/09/2009, 1:43 PM
A new low.

micls
25/09/2009, 1:43 PM
I know, it was a rhetorical question

I know, I just needed to say it :D

Ash
25/09/2009, 1:47 PM
Will the Pats fans give them a rendition of "The wheels on the bus go round and round"?