Robbie Keane

[tetsujin1979]

Who?
The guy who was a cult hero in Glasgow and has now fallen off the radar?

Larsson's injured and won't play again until next season

[cullenswood]

Who?
The guy who was a cult hero in Glasgow and has now fallen off the radar?
I think that could be because he is injured and out for the season?? :confused:

[OwlsFan]

He hasn't just scored against second rate teams either or in friendlies - unless you're calling away to Holland in a WC qualifier a second rate affair.

[Slash/ED]

In all fairness Larssons a one off and Keane would be much better off staying in the premiership (Unless someone from abroad came up with a good offer), but it looks like he'll stay at Spurs.

[Cowboy]

Who?
The guy who was a cult hero in Glasgow and has now fallen off the radar?

Kinda hard to play when injured Peadar, that was a pretty lame post by your standards. A move to celtic may not necessarily be a bad thing for keane, the lower standard might actually help him build his confidence.

[Condex]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the point of your original post was the Robbie Keane is not good enough for Ireland. Yet in this post you argue that he’s the best of a bad bunch. If that’s correct, then he is good enough for Ireland. Most teams usually pick the best they have.

He is the best that we have and that is the worrying thing, he won't worry very many international class defenders, most likely will leave Spurs this summer for a team at the lower end of the premiership or maybe even Scotland though I couln't see himn shifting Hartson or Sutton...

[eirebhoy]

He is the best that we have and that is the worrying thing, he won't worry very many international class defenders
you'd be suprised. Keane is rated higher than Duff in most countries.

[Slash/ED]

He is the best that we have and that is the worrying thing, he won't worry very many international class defenders, most likely will leave Spurs this summer for a team at the lower end of the premiership or maybe even Scotland though I couln't see himn shifting Hartson or Sutton...

That must be news to the international class defenders he's raked up his record beating goals talley by the age of 24 against

[Eire06]

Robbie Keane is a top class Striker but he is going through a bad patch at the moment, he seems unhappy a Spurs but who can blame him he's not getting matches.. He has been unsettled since the start of the season and that can put anyone off..
I think a move would be the best thing for him, someplace where he will get regular first team games, and if that is to be at Celtic I see no problem with it.. Celtic are a great team and he will get the chance to play in Europe..
Things can't really be any worse for him than they are at the moment

[FarBeag]

Quote Eirebhoy.....you'd be suprised. Keane is rated higher than Duff in most countries.


That would be Roy I assume...

[Stuttgart88]

From Today's Guardian Rumour Mill:

Left on the bench on Saturday, the man with possibly the weakest goal celebration in football stormed down to the dressing-room and is believed to have held a pout for at least two whole hours.

Hard to disagree with that bit!

[blobbyblob]

What ever about Robbie keanes talents in front of goal he has a lot of growing up to do. Be it from storming off down tunnels to moaning to referees for 90 minutes about injustices carried out against him, he needs to redirect his energies into his performance rather than blaming someone else all the time.

[Eire06]

From Today's Guardian Rumour Mill:

Left on the bench on Saturday, the man with possibly the weakest goal celebration in football stormed down to the dressing-room and is believed to have held a pout for at least two whole hours.

Hard to disagree with that bit!

:eek: Somersaults are hard to do you know...
Poor angel

[Chris Ronaldo]

Fair enough, Irelands top marksman and all that....but he was useless against Isreal and wasn't even in the China game. Enclosed is a better team until he finds international form.
1. Shay Given
2. Steven Carr 5. Kenny Cunningham 4. Andy O'Brien 3. John O'Shea


7. Steve Finnan 6. Roy Keane 8. Kevin Kilbane 11. Andy Ried


10. Clinton Morrison 9. Damo Duff

anyone agree??????

[carnstien]

If you were going to play that formation, I'd have Reid up front and Duff on the left, or Reid and Duff flanking Morrisson, á la Chelsea.

[FarBeag]

Why the need to start another Robbie Keane post?? Just leave the chap alone for now until he at least gets his form back or settles down a little at spurs.Robbie is an inconsistant complaining cart wheeler who is our best striker at present and will do the business for us in June.

[Peadar]

anyone agree??????

I disagree purely in the basis that Reid (Andy) isn't ready for a full 90 minutes of International football against decent opposition.
He has a good delivery but doesn't take on his man often enough and when he does, he rarely beats him.

[Donal81]

This is the oldest argument on this forum, why does it still puzzle people? We don't have any better options up front. There is no one available who could do a better job upfront than Robbie. He's hot and cold but he's the best striker we have. I don't worship the bloke like some here but he's a good player and just needs a proper run of form. End of story, no?

Damien Duff, for the love of God, is not a forward and never has been. Mick McCarthy's worst legacy is that we think Duff is a versatile winger cum striker. He is an attacking midfielder out and out. Putting him upfront is wasting him.

[OwlsFan]

Agreed - forget about Robbie. He's been covered elsewhere.

The main choice now seems to be between O'Brien and Dunne. The former apparently, didn't see it myself, had a stinker against Villa at the weekend and is forever being slated on Newcastle boards. Dunne now seems to be the better bet, remembering his heroics against Holland etc at home in the last qualifying campaign.

[Stuttgart88]

Fair enough, Irelands top marksman and all that....but he was useless against Isreal and wasn't even in the China game. Enclosed is a better team until he finds international form.
1. Shay Given
2. Steven Carr 5. Kenny Cunningham 4. Andy O'Brien 3. John O'Shea


7. Steve Finnan 6. Roy Keane 8. Kevin Kilbane 11. Andy Ried


10. Clinton Morrison 9. Damo Duff

anyone agree??????

NO!! How many times does Duff have to be a complete waste of space as a forward before people stop suggesting he plays in that role?

We've got one of the best wingers in Europe so why use him as anything other than a winger?


If either of our wide men is equipped to play further forward I'd say it's Reid, as he did in Paris after Clinton went off.

[Stuttgart88]

Agreed - forget about Robbie. He's been covered elsewhere.

The main choice now seems to be between O'Brien and Dunne. The former apparently, didn't see it myself, had a stinker against Villa at the weekend and is forever being slated on Newcastle boards. Dunne now seems to be the better bet, remembering his heroics against Holland etc at home in the last qualifying campaign.

Despite his good form for Ireland, the more I see of O'Brien at Newcastle the more he makes me nervous. Dunne for me at this stage.

[Stuttgart88]

Here's a post on a Spurs message board (not sure if it's the best one though)

http://www.sportnetwork.net/boards/read/s150.php?f=149&i=266197&t=266197&sid=150

Admittedly there were a few less positive posts too. It also seems like disdain at a team's tactics isn't unique to Irish football forums!



while defoe has only scored 1 goal in his last 7 games, robbie has scored 3 in 6 as he didnt play on sat, and has only started 1 or 2 of these games. In form strikers need to be playing....while robbie maybe shouldnt have reacted like that, there is no justification on the planet for not playing him, he's the most inform striker we have at the moment and he didnt get a game, no wonder he's angry, and he's been very patient coming on as sub in a lot of games and when coming on continually finding the back of the net. 15 goals so far with not many starts at all, scary to think if the boy plays a full game every week, he'd be humping defoe's 21. What Jol thinks and what Jol is doing needs to be looked at, his decisions are woeful and as for his tactics, I think Pleatt left his gameplan book behind and Jol found it. Continually playing Atouba, not playing Davis, continually playing Carrick thinking he's Englands answer to a creative midfielder, playing a 433 thinking our midfield is good enough, and dropping your most inform striker and playing the other 3 who cant hit a ****in barn door from 2 yards between them at the moment. I could go on but I dont want a sunshine post happening. No wonder he's fukin upset, ave it Robbie, ave it son !!!!!!! you fukin tell em !

[drinkfeckarse]

This is the oldest argument on this forum, why does it still puzzle people? We don't have any better options up front. There is no one available who could do a better job upfront than Robbie. He's hot and cold but he's the best striker we have. I don't worship the bloke like some here but he's a good player and just needs a proper run of form. End of story, no?

Damien Duff, for the love of God, is not a forward and never has been. Mick McCarthy's worst legacy is that we think Duff is a versatile winger cum striker. He is an attacking midfielder out and out. Putting him upfront is wasting him.


Well said, it's a boring argument. Robbie's a fine player and is the best we have by a considerable margin so why the need to pursue ultimate perfection??

Jaysus if we had had Pele it still wouldn't be enough for some people around here :eek: :rolleyes:

[carnstien]

He has a good delivery but doesn't take on his man often enough and when he does, he rarely beats him.
What? Have you ever actaully seen Andy Reid play? Running with the ball and beating his man is one of his best attributes, he's not far behind Duff when it comes to that kind of stuff I reckon.

[Peadar]

What? Have you ever actaully seen Andy Reid play?

I expect I've seen as much if not more than you have of Reid.

By the way, I'm talking about his ability at International level.

[brine3]

Point taken but do you honestly believe Clinton is better than an Off-form Robbie Keane

The facts seem to be speaking for themselves at the moment.

[tiktok]

Fair enough, Irelands top marksman and all that....but he was useless against Isreal.

I'm usually one of the first to criticise him, but he was one of our better players against israel.

I'm not his biggest fan, but he and Clinton are the only real striking options we have, Duff has proven again and again that he's better on the left, and Reid has to do a lot more before we start dropping Keane for him.

[Eirambler]

Has been fined and sent to the reserves...


BBC Sport

Robbie Keane's future at Tottenham is in doubt after Spurs confirmed he had been hit with a £10,000 club fine and made to train with the reserves.
Keane was carpeted by boss Martin Jol for his reaction at not being brought on as a substitute against Birmingham.

A Spurs' spokesman told BBC Sport:"We can confirm Robbie was fined, but have no further comment to make."

Keane, 24, has struggled to hold a starting place since the arrivals of Jermain Defoe and Egypt's Mido.

The Irish international has been linked with a move to Premiership rivals Everton.

Keane was signed from Leeds for £7m in August 2002 and made a big impact at White Hart Lane.

But he has been forced to play second fiddle to England striker Defoe, while the capture of Mido and the return of Kanoute has stiffened competition for places at White Hart Lane.

Spurs boss Jol took action after Keane showed dissent towards him as he stormed down the tunnel at Birmingham following his replacement by Mido.

[eirebhoy]

A decent apology would have got him off the hook so he must have done something to annoy Jol after the incident.

[FarBeag]

Any suggestions on what Keane should consider doing.Its obvious he is well down the pecking order at Spurs and with him having that run in with Jol,his first team appearances could be even more limited.We need him to be sharp for our game with Israel.

[davey]

Any suggestions on what Keane should consider doing.Its obvious he is well down the pecking order at Spurs and with him having that run in with Jol,his first team appearances could be even more limited.We need him to be sharp for our game with Israel.

He's gotta move to be honest. I know that Spurs have been playing a rotation system this season and Robbie has been playing his fair share (and scoring well). However I feel that he needs regular first team footy. Just speculating here, but i think he'd be a hit at Everton with Beattie along side him. Reprise the big man, little man role that he did so well with Quinny.

[livehead1]

f*ck sake....wat are people on , on here. andy reids main attribute is his running with the ball . when he was at forest he used to sit infront of the defence when the keeper had the ball and he would roll it to reid who would then beat a few men and pick out a pass. i seen him do it 200 times. he is excellant at that

[tricky_colour]

I guess with the Premiership increasingly scouring the world for top players
it will become harder and harder for Irish players to be first choice in
Premiership clubs, especially now so how more foreign managers are managing them.
I actually though Robbie had been playing better lately and that he had
a good game against Israel, but that was more in the midfield.

If he stays he will have to work harder for his place and it might help his
game + he is less likely to get injured if he doesn't so much.

It may bring the best out of him, who knows?

[dr_peepee]

I'd like to see him at Newcastle..... A year playing with Shearer plus working with him as a coach, as well as Dean Saunders could do wonders for his game.

[drinkfeckarse]

I'd like to see him at Celtic and wouldn't be too shocked at all if it happened. The board have said they'll do "all they can" to sign Bellamy but I see 2 problems there. Firstly Bellamy has never said he'd like to stay yet and secondly, the chances of the current board shelling out £6m plus another £6m on wages for a 3 year deal are pretty slim.

What's the chances on them geting Robbie for £4m-£4.5m to appease the fans?? That would keep us happy :)

Not as unrealistic as some might think...

[Cowboy]

I'd like to see him at Newcastle..... A year playing with Shearer plus working with him as a coach, as well as Dean Saunders could do wonders for his game.

under Souness, are you kidding ?

[Peadar]

when he was at forest

Please don't come on here trying to offend the intelligence of forum members by implying that playing for Championship relegation fodder is comparable to playing International football.


That would keep us happy

That's pretty darn selfish if you ask me!
Wanting your countries top striker to go to a club with a false status who play in a sham of a league just so that it will make you happy. :rolleyes:

I'd prefer to see him go to Shelbourne.

Anyway, the news today is that David Moyes wants him.

[drinkfeckarse]

That's pretty darn selfish if you ask me!
Wanting your countries top striker to go to a club with a false status who play in a sham of a league just so that it will make you happy. :rolleyes:

I'd prefer to see him go to Shelbourne.

Anyway, the news today is that David Moyes wants him.


Not a selfish act at all, it would be a good move for him.

Playing every week, scoring goals, confidence flowing, Champions League football...........yeah really bad for him ;)

[Peadar]

Champions League football...

They have to win the league in order to be sure of Champions League football. Otherwise they enter at the third qualifying round, which is where Shelbourne were last year.
You're going to say "but they got knocked out", my reply will be, so too did the team representing the SPL.

[drinkfeckarse]

Fair enough but we're "almost" guaranteed Champions League football ;) If we don't win the league then we've a damn sight more chance of qualifying through the qualifying round than Shels have (if they reached the 3rd round) :D

So you're really the one being selfish when you say you'd prefer to see him sign for Shels ;)

[Peadar]

So you're really the one being selfish when you say you'd prefer to see him sign for Shels ;)


No, because it isn't my wish for anyone with quality to sign for Shelbourne.
I simply used that as an example of how much I would dislike Robbie Keane to move to Glasgow Celtic.

[Stuttgart88]

I'd like to see him at Celtic and wouldn't be too shocked at all if it happened. The board have said they'll do "all they can" to sign Bellamy but I see 2 problems there. Firstly Bellamy has never said he'd like to stay yet and secondly, the chances of the current board shelling out £6m plus another £6m on wages for a 3 year deal are pretty slim.

What's the chances on them geting Robbie for £4m-£4.5m to appease the fans?? That would keep us happy :)

Not as unrealistic as some might think...

I'd prefer to see him hold down a regular spot with a good Premiership side. I'm not totally convinced about Everton - they're too erratic.

I just don't buy into this idea that a club like Spurs needs 4 top strikers and similarly I don't see how rotating strikers is a good idea. Arsenal practically only have one striker. Chelsea don't rotate. You rarely see teams rotating centre-halves or goalkeepers - other confidence positions.

I don't have the stats but it looks like none of Spurs' strikers has benefitted from the rotation. Defoe's contribution has dropped, Kanoute's too.

Likewise at Birmingham, I'd be interested to see how many goals have Pandiani, Blake, Clinton & Heskey got since January - more or less than when they had 2 regular strikers? Pandiani made an instant impact but has done little since. Likewise Mido I think.


A move to Celtic would have benefits. His biggest weaknesses are his one-on-ones (the Faroes game, Croatia and a lot of other games) and his heading (that sitter against Brazil, that chance in Paris, an awful effort in Tel Aviv). You'd have to think that he'd improve these at Celtic because (a) they tend to dominate matches, and (b) he'd benefit from excellent service. Goalscoring is a habit & Robbie needs confidence.

A regular start at a top English club is his best option. Rotating at a decent English club or a regular start for Celtic rank about the same in my view, maybe Celtic just shading it. We need Robbie to be scoring & to feel wanted if we're to get the best out of him.


Question: Robbie vs Milan Baros - who's better? Could he do a job at Liverpool?

[tetsujin1979]

I'd prefer to see him hold down a regular spot with a good Premiership side. I'm not totally convinced about Everton - they're too erratic.

I just don't buy into this idea that a club like Spurs needs 4 top strikers and similarly I don't see how rotating strikers is a good idea. Arsenal practically only have one striker. Chelsea don't rotate. You rarely see teams rotating centre-halves or goalkeepers - other confidence positions.

I don't have the stats but it looks like none of Spurs' strikers has benefitted from the rotation. Defoe's contribution has dropped, Kanoute's too.

Likewise at Birmingham, I'd be interested to see how many goals have Pandiani, Blake, Clinton & Heskey got since January - more or less than when they had 2 regular strikers? Pandiani made an instant impact but has done little since. Likewise Mido I think.


A move to Celtic would have benefits. His biggest weaknesses are his one-on-ones (the Faroes game, Croatia and a lot of other games) and his heading (that sitter against Brazil, that chance in Paris, an awful effort in Tel Aviv). You'd have to think that he'd improve these at Celtic because (a) they tend to dominate matches, and (b) he'd benefit from excellent service. Goalscoring is a habit & Robbie needs confidence.

A regular start at a top English club is his best option. Rotating at a decent English club or a regular start for Celtic rank about the same in my view, maybe Celtic just shading it. We need Robbie to be scoring & to feel wanted if we're to get the best out of him.


Question: Robbie vs Milan Baros - who's better? Could he do a job at Liverpool?

Wouldn;t he just be swapping Defoe and Kanoute for Cisse (next season) and Morientes?

[Stuttgart88]

I'd forgotten about Cisse. Baros could be on his way out though.

Anyway, it's just a thought. Just because guys appear to be misfits in English football doesn't mean they can't be quality international strikers, e.g., Baros.

[eirebhoy]

TOFFEES LINE UP £10M SPURS PAIR (http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.dor?STORY_NAME=soccer/05/04/07/manual_090739.html)

Everton will launch a £10million summer raid for Spurs duo Robbie Keane and Simon Davies whether they clinch a Champions League place or not.

David Moyes has transformed the Toffees this season but has seen their lead over arch rivals Liverpool in the race for elite European football trimmed to just one point with seven games remaining.

They have lost four of their last five league games and exited the FA Cup after defeat to Manchester United - and many pundits and fans blame the slump in form on the lack of creativity in the team since Thomas Gravesen left to join Real Madrid.

Moyes pondered a £5million move for Wales winger Davies in the January transfer window but was put off by injury troubles.

Davies is now fully fit, though, so the Everton chief is expected to renew his interest in the summer and throw his hat into the ring for Republic of Ireland star Keane as well.

Keane is unsettled at White Hart Lane after failing to command a regular first-team place under boss Martin Jol this season - and his mood will not have been lightened by a £10,000 fine this week.

Moyes sees Keane as an ideal strike partner for James Beattie, who arrived at Goodison Park in January, and will be given funds whether he secures a place in the lucrative Champions League or not as they look to build on this season's progress.

[anto1208]

i saw this as well would be a great move for keane he would be first choice at everton and he needs to be playing to stay sharp for ireland

[Dublin12]

If he can't hold down a first team place at spurs,why will everton be such a good move for him,how many clubs does he need to go to before he finds his feet :confused:

[eirebhoy]

If he can't hold down a first team place at spurs,why will everton be such a good move for him,how many clubs does he need to go to before he finds his feet :confused:
The amount of clubs he was at has nothing to do with finding his feet.

Wolves -> Coventry - Step up
Coventry -> Inter - Step up
Inter -> Leeds - Manager sacked
Leeds -> Spurs - Leeds in a state

[Stuttgart88]

i saw this as well would be a great move for keane he would be first choice at everton and he needs to be playing to stay sharp for ireland

Would he be first choice? They have Ferguson (to be released this year though?), McFadden, Beattie and that guy Bent who looks really talented. And they frequently only play one up front.

Was watching last night at how well Gudjohnssen played in a midfield role. I wonder would Robbie benefit from playing a bit more withdrawn. He's always dropping back to look for the ball anyway.

[Dublin12]

Robbie's just alright,he's an average striker in the premiership,imo he's not a world class player,he does better for Ireland than he does at his club because we don't have much choice in that department,as far as i can see he's reached his peak and if he doesn't get some stability at his next club it'll be downhill from then on.If he was as good as people made out he would've made a name for himself at Inter and been first choice striker at Leeds.But saying all that I really do hope it all workds out for him.