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Razors left peg
09/09/2008, 12:08 PM
More bad news for Robbie, He has some property stolen including jewellery, (I think maybe some money aswell).
Source; FM104 Radio News.

Also on the front page of the Sun

OwlsFan
09/09/2008, 2:42 PM
Yep:

"Robbie Keane has become the seventh Liverpool player to have his house burgled in the last two years.

His penthouse flat was broken into while he was away on international duty with the Republic of Ireland and an expensive watch and jewellery are believed to have been stolen.

Keane, 28, had been using the city centre apartment while house-hunting following his £20million summer move from Tottenham.

Over the past two years six Anfield players have been burgled while playing."

Hope it doesn't put him off his game!!

finnpark
09/09/2008, 2:52 PM
More bad news for Robbie, He has some property stolen including jewellery, (I think maybe some money aswell).
Source; FM104 Radio News.

Did they steal his shooting boots cause I think he left them at home :eek:

Seano
09/09/2008, 3:01 PM
3 of those matches were meaningless friendlies where teams don't try. The other was against Wales in another meaningless match. Enough said!!

Darly Murphy for Ireland.

It doesn't really matter in the Trap system as Ireland will only create 2-3 chances per game average. Ireland wont score much but won't concede much either. Montengro conceded 9 goals in their last 3 matches which makes this a very interesting match indeed.

I really can't understand how people attack the quality of the opposition when refferring to Keanes goals. It is widely accepted that there are no more pushovers in international football, so I don't think that thats a fair dig to have at anyone. If your going to attack the persons attitude then fair enough . I met him once and found him to be a bit of a plank, but I wouldnt question his attitude on the pitch or the circumstances in which he has scored. Also of Johnny Aldridges international goal record, all barring 2 maybe ( Mexico and Northern Ireland , assuming Turkey back then were a weak side) would have been against what could have been considered inferior oposition and nobody had a problem there, because rightly so 19 international goals is a record to be proud of no matter who you're playing.

jbyrne
09/09/2008, 3:07 PM
Did they steal his shooting boots cause I think he left them at home :eek:

please go away

mypost
09/09/2008, 3:18 PM
of Johnny Aldridges international goal record, all barring 2 maybe ( Mexico and Northern Ireland , assuming Turkey back then were a weak side)

Turkey were a poor side, they lost all their games in the group.

Razors left peg
09/09/2008, 3:50 PM
please go away

just ignore him

SalvadorSanchez
09/09/2008, 4:22 PM
Now, there's your problem.

Yeah reading the Daily Mail, the worst, most vicious anti-Irish rag ever to come out of the UK, how Irish people read that paper is beyond me....

and they're wrong, Keane did alright and if we improve the final ball from midfield into the strikers he'll score goals, he is a moaner but many footballers are.... anyone remember Hristro Stoichkov? it was like an night at the Opera watching him play...

finnpark
09/09/2008, 8:40 PM
please go away

Im right in saying that Robbie Keane is a glorified over rated player. Failed to make the grade at a number of club sides.

Paddy Garcia
09/09/2008, 8:55 PM
Im right in saying that Robbie Keane is a glorified over rated player. Failed to make the grade at a number of club sides.

Actualy you are incorrect.

FarBeag
09/09/2008, 9:18 PM
Im right in saying that Robbie Keane is a glorified over rated player. Failed to make the grade at a number of club sides.


You’re just a wind up merchant. You have nothing positive to say about anything, football related anyway. I am sure that you sit in front of your TV just hoping Ireland loose and good honest players like Keane don’t score just for your own satisfaction. You probably have never even been at an Irish match.

finnpark
09/09/2008, 9:31 PM
You’re just a wind up merchant. You have nothing positive to say about anything, football related anyway. I am sure that you sit in front of your TV just hoping Ireland loose and good honest players like Keane don’t score just for your own satisfaction. You probably have never even been at an Irish match.

I enjoy watching Keane not score alright. But I want Eire to win.

I don't go to Eire matches myself as there are no Finn Harps players on the team. :)

cheifo
09/09/2008, 9:38 PM
Lordy FP , watching our lads(Harps) has sent you demented if you think Daryl Murphy should play instead of Robbie.
Had a fine game against Georgia and will have a good qualifying campaign.

magnumpi
10/09/2008, 9:27 AM
keane needs to mature. although i don't question is work ethic in most games, he hasn't scored an important goal in god knows how long. in-fact, in the last WC qualifying campaign, clinton scored more important goals against the real opposition.

how many of his goals have come against crap teams or in friendlies??

i dont care what anyone says, he should've scored after rounding the keeper against georgia, it wasn't that tight an angle!

but we shouldnt leave him out, because there's no one else. maybe drop him for one game to get a bit of a reaction out of him, but the alternatives dont bare thinking about.

amaccann
10/09/2008, 9:43 AM
Are you kidding? That was a tight angle, and his shot could still have been taken off the line by the last defender if I recall. You can't argue that he should be dropped on the basis of one missed chance.

Yes his international form has been less than it should be for a good while, but if anything Keane has been playing his best football for years lately. If ever there was a question of him being dropped, it's long past.

FarBeag
10/09/2008, 9:52 AM
Don’t agree at all.Whats the point in dropping him? What’s it going to achieve? Make him a better goal scorer or make him want to score more goals? Keane knows what his job is and he goes on the the field to do exactly that. There is more chance of Robbie scoring in a game than not and for someone to say that he does not want to score goals or is not capable of scoring is talking rubbish. Give him the ball in the right area and he will score.

On the game the other night he played his heart out as usual, set up a goal and nearly scored another and imo from a very tight angle that could have gone either side of the post. So, no I would not drop him because he does not deserve to be dropped.

lionelhutz
10/09/2008, 10:28 AM
I enjoy watching Keane not score alright. But I want Eire to win.



You enjoy seeing our top goalscorer struggle but you want Ireland to win.

That makes alot of sense

jbyrne
10/09/2008, 12:05 PM
how many of his goals have come against crap teams or in friendlies??


and how many have come in world cup finals, play offs and other important qualifiers??

robbie will end up with 50 goals for us (29 more than the next highest Irish scorer) yet we still have to listen to that kind of awful cr*p

tetsujin1979
10/09/2008, 12:13 PM
Trap isn't going to drop Keane, he's made him captain, and the focal point of the attacks. Think Henry at Arsenal, every move they made was passing the ball at pace, all with the intention of releasing him into space. Healy for the North was their focal point, their best striker so all of their play was based around making a chance for him to shoot, how many other players scored in the last qualifiers?
I firmly believe that Trapattoni is trying to build a team to get the best out of Robbie Keane, and is not going to drop him. Nor should he.

Carrigaline
10/09/2008, 2:00 PM
I can see Robbie scoring tonight and us getting the narrowest of 1-0 victories. The moaners will still be here crying about Clinton Morrison and Daryl Murphy.

shakermaker1982
10/09/2008, 2:05 PM
I can see Robbie scoring tonight and us getting the narrowest of 1-0 victories. The moaners will still be here crying about Clinton Morrison and Daryl Murphy.

if anybody thinks those two players are better than Robbie Keane then they don't know anything about football in general.

Murphy has done a decent job at Sunderland. Solid player but nothing more.

Clinton is a championship player. Tries hard and quick but not going to win you games against decent opposition.

magnumpi
10/09/2008, 2:06 PM
exactly, hardly any of his goals have come in qualifers and playoffs.

germany in the world cup, since then i can't think of an important goals, save maybe against Israel.

he is not playing some of the best football of his life - he's been ****e for liverpool and was only playing well with spurs because berbatov and him made such a good partnership - all the while still failing to score against any team of note for ireland.

i'm not saying keane doesn't try, but the fact is, his 29 goals were a lot easier got than quinn's et al.

magnumpi
10/09/2008, 2:10 PM
if anybody thinks those two players are better than Robbie Keane then they don't know anything about football in general. - taking the discussion out of context. nobody said they were better, but argued for their inclusion as keane hasnt performed for ireland in ages.



Clinton is a championship player. Tries hard and quick but not going to win you games against decent opposition.

yes, whereas keane has won us a game against....ooh, erm, no. whereas clinton got vital goals against switzerland - away! israel - away! opener against cyprus.

he's probably passed it now, and no-one said to call him up or replace robbie, but his scoring record was quoted as to highlight keane's inaequate performances of late for his country.

Stuttgart88
10/09/2008, 2:18 PM
he was only playing well with spurs because berbatov and him made such a good partnership Give him credit where it's due - he benefited Berbatov at least as much as Berbatov benefited Keane.

lionelhutz
10/09/2008, 3:07 PM
Lads I think the best way to put it is this, Keane is our best striker. He's just not very good, at the moment. He is our top all time scorer, and has done some great things in his time, but he's just not very good at the moment. He's taking a lot of flak here, a little off me even, but he is too talented an individual not to come back to some form. But mind you, he's not very good at the moment....

So how would you rate his form currently??

gustavo
10/09/2008, 3:12 PM
but the fact is, his 29 goals were a lot easier got than quinn's et al.

Why so?
How is this fact?
Did Quinn score all his goals in vital games or is his %age of goals in friendlies just as high as Keanes?

the-blue-harp
10/09/2008, 3:18 PM
keane is our captain and top striker, he is never going to get dropped, and anyway his form isnt that bad. i think he is the most important player to our chances of qualifying. him and torres are going to strike up a partnership at liverpool very soon, it just takes time to get know each other. and you should notice the respect he gets from torres (who is probably the best striker in the world right now) which says a lot about how good robbie keane is.
keane will know more than anyone that he needs to step up tonight and get a goal or two, i hope he does. and as he is our best option why are we not suppourting him??:rolleyes:

Den Perry
10/09/2008, 11:39 PM
Trap isn't going to drop Keane, he's made him captain, and the focal point of the attacks. Think Henry at Arsenal, every move they made was passing the ball at pace, all with the intention of releasing him into space. Healy for the North was their focal point, their best striker so all of their play was based around making a chance for him to shoot, how many other players scored in the last qualifiers?
I firmly believe that Trapattoni is trying to build a team to get the best out of Robbie Keane, and is not going to drop him. Nor should he.

Good Point. Anybody that thinks Keane is a poor player and that we should drop him really knows nothing about the game of football. Muppets

EastTerracer
11/09/2008, 12:56 AM
A very boring maths lesson to how that Robbie doesn't just score in Friendlies

6 goals in 20 World Cup Qualifying games [30% of games]
3 goals in 4 World Cup Finals games [75%]
11 goals in 24 European Championship Qualifying games [45.8%]
14 goals in 36 Friendlies [38%]

Hopefully he will improve his World Cup qualifying record over the coming months but in general his goals have been pretty evenly spread. Name any striker in the world who doesn't score more goals against weaker teams?

I thought Robbie was good tonight - he created a really good effort out of very little and played in McGeady perfectly. I think the biggest contributor to the lower number of goals in the last couple of years has been that the service to the strikers has been very poor. I'm hoping Duffer's return (and maybe a slimmer Andy Reid) will improve that part of Ireland's game in Croker next month.

mypost
11/09/2008, 3:27 AM
The suggestion we drop Robbie Keane is blx. The suggestion he only scores in big games is even more so. The suggestion he scores in games we don't win. Well, that's down to the rest of the team. Who scored two of our 6 penalties in Korea against Spain?? :rolleyes:

Robbie Keane scores in all kinds of games against all kinds of teams, that's what strikers do. Who set up McGeady's howler tonight?? Should we drop him??

His only let down has been his staunch defence of the last puppet in charge of the team, but he was not alone in that.

finnpark
11/09/2008, 11:55 AM
The suggestion we drop Robbie Keane is blx. The suggestion he only scores in big games is even more so. The suggestion he scores in games we don't win. Well, that's down to the rest of the team. Who scored two of our 6 penalties in Korea against Spain?? :rolleyes:



That was a long time ago in a more attacking team.
He has a good record against Manchester so could score this Saturday but Darly Murphy suits Trap's system better. I would play Murphy instead of Doyle or Keane but Traps the man and with or without Keane I think he will just about guide us to Africa :)

mandrake
11/09/2008, 12:02 PM
does he use his head .....when the keeper spilled the ball and held inside the penalty box keane shouldve kicked it from under his hand and scored....
now would the ref have given it?
but keane was too busy claiming handball outside area...

jbyrne
11/09/2008, 3:09 PM
does he use his head .....when the keeper spilled the ball and held inside the penalty box keane shouldve kicked it from under his hand and scored....
now would the ref have given it?
but keane was too busy claiming handball outside area...

what a load of absolute nonsense. the gk had it under control with his hand and to kick it out of his hand as you suggest would be a free against robbie. should we try all kinds of things against the rules just to see if the ref turns a blind eye to any indescretion and award the goal?
you are clutching at straws with that one

jbyrne
11/09/2008, 3:14 PM
That was a long time ago in a more attacking team.
He has a good record against Manchester so could score this Saturday but Darly Murphy suits Trap's system better. I would play Murphy instead of Doyle or Keane but Traps the man and with or without Keane I think he will just about guide us to Africa :)

in what way was the team in 2002 more attacking than last night when we played with two wingers and two up front?

not sure he has ever scored against man utd but sure why let facts get in the way of your tripe

tetsujin1979
11/09/2008, 3:22 PM
in what way was the team in 2002 more attacking than last night when we played with two wingers and two up front?

not sure he has ever scored against man utd but sure why let facts get in the way of your tripe
Scored against United in the cup last season: http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=542273

jbyrne
11/09/2008, 3:46 PM
Scored against United in the cup last season: http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=542273

fair enough. i stand corrected. although one goal in approx 20 games against them is hardly a "good record"

tricky_colour
15/09/2008, 9:28 PM
I guess Benetiz had the last laugh after Fergies comments about Keane not being worth £20, it seems he was worth more than £30 million pound Berbatov apparently. Mind you Keane still ties for Liverpools worst player here , however they are still top of the league.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/live_text/6183193.stm

lionelhutz
16/09/2008, 10:33 AM
Keane was extremely poor on the ball, he seems to panic every time he gets the ball. You can see the pressure is getting to him. Although he did play one excellent through ball to Benayoun which should have resulted in a goal.

He was brilliant in terms of his work rate but that alone isn't going to win Liverpool the title. I think he just needs to relax and take a deep breath when he gets the ball rather than feeling that he has to beat three men and score every time. Still think he'll be a success at Liverpool

sadloserkid
16/09/2008, 10:47 AM
He got into the picture with Babel fairly sharpish though after the second goal. Nothing wrong with his positioning there. :)

razor
16/09/2008, 10:49 AM
He got into the picture with Babel fairly sharpish though after the second goal. Nothing wrong with his positioning there. :)And all that after he did his best to get into an offside position in the path of Babels shot but unlike Sunderland he was unable to keep it out.

drinkfeckarse
16/09/2008, 11:04 AM
I don't doubt for a second that he will come good. I've always thought of Keane as a "form" player, a player who scored goals when in form but then went through fairly lean spells in between.

bholg
16/09/2008, 11:30 AM
Stoke this weekend... at anfield... surley a chance to get off the mark for him

NeilMcD
16/09/2008, 3:10 PM
Last August, just gone, he scored against Norway.

eirebhoy
16/09/2008, 3:20 PM
I think he has a point actually. Just a quick glance through his record and he doesn't score many early in the season.

NeilMcD
16/09/2008, 3:26 PM
I know but sure its so well know now at this stage. It has been quoted every year for the last few years. Its well known he never scores league goals in August, he has not manged one since 1999.

tetsujin1979
16/09/2008, 3:28 PM
Robbie Keane's record since 1997 in August/September


Date Competition Score Goals
09-08-1997 Football League Championship Norwich 0-2 Wolves 2
30-08-1997 Football League Championship Wolves 4-2 Bury 2

08-08-1998 Football League Championship Wolves 2-0 Tranmere 1
28-08-1998 Football League Championship Watford 0-2 Wolves 1
08-09-1998 Football League Championship Port Vale 2-1 Wolves 1
12-09-1998 Football League Championship Wolves 1-1 Sunderland 1
19-09-1998 Football League Championship Huddersfield 2-1 Wolves 1
22-09-1998 English League Cup Wolves 1-2 Bournemouth 1

08-08-1999 Football League Championship Man City 0-1 Wolves 1
14-08-1999 Football League Championship Wolves 1-1 Portsmouth 1
21-08-1999 English Premier Coventry 2-0 Derby 2
29-08-1999 English Premier Sunderland 1-1 Coventry 1
19-09-1999 English Premier Tottenham 3-2 Coventry 1

16-09-2001 English Premier Charlton 0-2 Leeds 1
27-09-2001 UEFA Cup Leeds 3-0 Maritimo 1
30-09-2001 English Premier Ipswich 1-2 Leeds 1

17-08-2002 English Premier Leeds 3-0 Man City 1

24-09-2003 English League Cup Coventry 0-3 Tottenham 1

22-09-2004 English League Cup Oldham 0-6 Tottenham 1

17-09-2005 English Premier Aston Villa 1-1 Tottenham 1

28-09-2006 UEFA Cup Tottenham 1-0 Slavia Prague 1

20-09-2007 UEFA Cup Tottenham 6-1 Anorthosis 1
23-09-2007 English Premier Bolton 1-1 Tottenham 1


I know but sure its so well know now at this stage. It has been quoted every year for the last few years. Its well known he never scores league goals in August, he has not manged one since 1999.
not that well known, he scored on 17th August 2002 for Leeds in a 3-0 win over Man City at Elland Road

Razors left peg
16/09/2008, 3:56 PM
The biggest thing missing for me from Robbies game at Liverpool is a bit of nastiness. Havent seen him once having a go at refs or team mates. I know people will say its good that he's not as petulant but its like he doesnt have the confidence in himself yet in the new surroundings and hasnt convinced himself that he deserves to be there. There have been a couple of occasions when Ive seen him getting into good positions and the pass hasnt come, the Robbie we all know would usually lose the head and give the player a b*llocking but instead he is aplauding them and has a smile on his face... Im sure the confidence will come with a goal and a couple of months to settle in there

newbie
16/09/2008, 5:10 PM
hel defo come good for us. was very impressed with his attitude on Saturday and was DELIGHTED that he ended up not coming off (although he nearly did).

his few air swipes have looked embarrassing but he keeps getting in the positions and thats whats important,id be more worried if he just gave up when the going got tough,like a certain 30odd mill signin :)

french defences are brutal,could open his account tonight.

tricky_colour
16/09/2008, 6:55 PM
On the bench for LIverpool...tactical rotation???
Big game against Stoke coming up ;)

tricky_colour
01/10/2008, 7:31 PM
First goal for Liverpool and a good one too, should have had a penalty earlier too.

The floodgates are open now :D