Robbie Keane

[yapster]

His missus...:cool:


lol lol

[yapster]

If my aunty had...................
Still a hat trick isnt to bad, is it!!!!:D Now in the finals of the CL while Robbie on the other hand has the mighty Motherwell to deal with next - thats the reality of it


spot on

[Closed Account]

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Been done already son...

[rebelmusic]

Been looking for stats on penalties robbie has taken, how many scored/missed. Anyone have an idea?

[outspoken]

You think as a Spurs fan id love Keane but no I hate him he thinks he owns the club and can do what he likes but that wont happen with Harry in charge. I had no prob. with him going to Liverpool it was his so called boy hood club after all and he had been a great servant 2 our club but when it didnt work out we brought him home but then his so called other boy hood club came calling and off to Celtic he went. Everyones saying how well he did over there but the truth is I could do what he did in Scotland their league is crap. And he got player of the year for celtic what a suprise Keano says jump Celtic fans say how high. And when Neil Lennon said there was going to b a clear out Keano backed it who said u wrnt been cleaned out to Keano. And of course as expected he was gifted the captaincy. And all the teams he scored against were useless he never scored in the Old Firm games did he....... And now ive just red that his 1st club Wolves are coming in for him i suppose he loves them as well does he well if it dsnt work out and we take him back again (which we wont) then i supose he will want another shot at Italian football and move over there ... Keano your a discrase and your not needed anymore so go and dictate some other club

[geysir]

Kids! don't you just love them.

Schools closed today?

[Razors left peg]

just when I thought there might be a bit of peace around here with Yapster suspended

[Serb]

Welcome to the forum Kieran. Another Robbie Keane post that ignores any argument based on facts or reality.

His move to Liverpool: Yeah, he supported Liverpool as a kid, but they were also a top four club playing Champions League football at the time and Spurs weren't (how the tables have turned now) so it was a good footballing move. Spurs were happy to take the cash and Benitez never really wanted him. He was dropped straight after excellent performances for Liverpool and was inevitably subbed on the 60 minute mark when he started games, no matter how well he was playing. It has been highlighted before, but he has a better record for Liverpool than some of the other 'top class' strikers that Liverpool persisted with (Morientes was one).

His move to Celtic: He was out of the Spurs team and was given the chance to play first team football in a league where he was likely to score a lot of goals. I don't think he really wanted to go, but wasn't assured of a place in the Spurs team so left, to, y'know, play some football. If he really "dictates to the club", surely he would have dictated to Spurs that he needed to be picked for every game? And so what if they game him the captaincy? Celtic are a team that have been lacking leaders all season. Darren O'Dea has captained the side on a number of occasions and he's not even guaranteed a place in the first team. Finally, maybe he's getting Celtic's player of the year award having become their top scorer for the entire season having only been involved 14 games?

It does look like he'll be moved on in the future. Wherever he goes, he'll continue to score goals like he has been doing consistently since 1997. As for your final comment that he's a "discrase", care to qualify that with any kind of sensible argument whatsoever?

[Acornvilla]

You think as a Spurs fan id love Keane but no I hate him he thinks he owns the club and can do what he likes but that wont happen with Harry in charge. I had no prob. with him going to Liverpool it was his so called boy hood club after all and he had been a great servant 2 our club but when it didnt work out we brought him home but then his so called other boy hood club came calling and off to Celtic he went. Everyones saying how well he did over there but the truth is I could do what he did in Scotland their league is crap. And he got player of the year for celtic what a suprise Keano says jump Celtic fans say how high. And when Neil Lennon said there was going to b a clear out Keano backed it who said u wrnt been cleaned out to Keano. And of course as expected he was gifted the captaincy. And all the teams he scored against were useless he never scored in the Old Firm games did he....... And now ive just red that his 1st club Wolves are coming in for him i suppose he loves them as well does he well if it dsnt work out and we take him back again (which we wont) then i supose he will want another shot at Italian football and move over there ... Keano your a discrase and your not needed anymore so go and dictate some other club
here now thats totally over the top, if you had the chance to better yourself by playing in the champions league would you not take it? so it doesn't work out because the manager is a bit of an idiot when it comes to managing forward players you go back to a club you consider home, whats wrong with that? then he looses his place in the team, mainly because of his team mates very good form, so you go on loan for half a season to a club you support (yes i know it's because of the idiotic i'm Irish i support Celtic mentality) to get your confidence back. theres nothing wrong with any of that, and yes Celtics squad is in need of a massive overhaul. And Celtic sold their captain in January did they not? so it's not just like he walked in there and demanded the Captaincy, the team had no leaders

Look I find robbie annoying as hell sometimes to watch but he is still the best forward we have and probably will ever have and he deserves a lot of respect for that fact alone and where w=ever he ends up you know he will get 20 plus goals again next season.

Irrational character assignations of players with little or no basis is only asking for a ban not to mention a lot of angry reply's

[Charlie Darwin]

Keane took a risk that every player in his position would take, a once-in-a-lifetime move to a Champions League team. He had to return with his tail between his legs and looked foolish for some of the things he said when he joined 'Pool, but he's still given far more to Spurs than most players over the past few years. I think a lot of Spurs fans were just angry that he thought he was good enough to kick on to the next level without them.

[bennocelt]

I had no prob. with him going to Liverpool it was his so called boy hood club after all and he had been a great servant 2 our club but when it didnt work out we brought him home but then his so called other boy hood club came calling and off to Celtic he went.


A bit of a running joke with Keane, said something similar when with Leeds as well - really, how many boy hood faves can one really have.............

[Razors left peg]

its bullsh1t that he said that Leeds were one of his boyhood clubs. Its far from unusual that a lad in Ireland supported a team in England as well as Scotland. I have 3 clubs Galway United, Celtic and Man United and would have given anything to play for any of the 3 of them... and most of my mates would be say the same

[Acornvilla]

its bullsh1t that he said that Leeds were one of his boyhood clubs. Its far from unusual that a lad in Ireland supported a team in England as well as Scotland. I have 3 clubs Galway United, Celtic and Man United and would have given anything to play for any of the 3 of them... and most of my mates would be say the same

sure i'm a fan of i don't know how many teams :) it's ok to say you supported a team, people in Ireland do it all the time, they go to the pub, subscribe to sky and buy a lovely jersy once a year....

[Razors left peg]

sure i'm a fan of i don't know how many teams :) it's ok to say you supported a team, people in Ireland do it all the time, they go to the pub, subscribe to sky and buy a lovely jersy once a year....

Unfortunately Sky dont show Galway United too often so I do have to get off my arse to go see them. Yes I do enjoy watchin Celtic and Man Utd from the comfort of my arm chair but unlike some other league of Ireland fans I dont think its a sin to enjoy watchin football in other parts of the world and since I dont have a bottomless bank account Sky is the best option

[Charlie Darwin]

A bit of a running joke with Keane, said something similar when with Leeds as well - really, how many boy hood faves can one really have.............
I think he said it was his Dad's favourite team?

[bennocelt]

its bullsh1t that he said that Leeds were one of his boyhood clubs. Its far from unusual that a lad in Ireland supported a team in England as well as Scotland. I have 3 clubs Galway United, Celtic and Man United and would have given anything to play for any of the 3 of them... and most of my mates would be say the same


Maybe he didn't actually say it, but he definitely did get that reputation from fans in the UK................

[Razors left peg]

just because he got a reputation from people who dont understand that alot of Irish people support Celtic as well as an english club doesnt mean that crap like that has to be repeated by people on here who should know better

[Acornvilla]

Unfortunately Sky dont show Galway United too often so I do have to get off my arse to go see them. Yes I do enjoy watchin Celtic and Man Utd from the comfort of my arm chair but unlike some other league of Ireland fans I dont think its a sin to enjoy watchin football in other parts of the world and since I dont have a bottomless bank account Sky is the best option

yeah i'm with you on that but i watch chelsea and leeds! i cant afford sky thou :) I do go to the town games when i'm home, i think if your irish theres no reason why you shouldn't support an irish team :)

and on the Robbie, Leeds thing, yeah his dad supported them, i think this was covered a few months ago

[Razors left peg]

yeah i'm with you on that i cant afford sky thou :)

and on the Robbie, Leeds thing yeah his dad supported them, i think this was covered a few months ago

Thats why god invented the barstool :)

[SkStu]

A bit of a running joke with Keane, said something similar when with Leeds as well - really, how many boy hood faves can one really have.............

even though i love Keane, its a pretty funny joke too...


A (TRANSFER DEADLINE) DAY IN THE LIFE OF ROBERT DAVID KEANE (AGED 29)

12pm: Get up and eat hearty Irish breakfast. It's going to be another long transfer deadline day chez Keane. I've been a massive fan of transfer deadline day all my life, going back to when I was a kid growing up in Dublin.

12.45pm: Mmm, that was tasty. I've been a massive fan of rashers, eggs, sausages, baked beans, black pudding, soda bread and black tea all my life, going back to when I was a kid growing up in Dublin.

1.30pm: Knock on lid of sunbed and ask Claudine where designer washbag is. She says she'll pack it for me when she's finished topping up her tan. She's been a massive fan of UV rays, going back to when she was a kid growing up in Dublin.

1.35pm: Check tabloid websites to see which teams I'm being linked with. Ooh! Sunderland and the Queen's Celtic. I haven't played for either before, but like Wolves, Coventry, Inter, Dirty Leeds, Spurs and Liverpool, I've been a massive fan of both clubs all my life, going back to when I was kid growing up in Dublin.

1.50pm: Print off template of stock unveiling speech that's served me so well down the years: "It's absolutely fantastic, a real dream come true for me. I've been a [insert team name in here] fan all my life, going back to when I was a kid growing up in Dublin, and I always had a [insert team name in here] shirt on my back. So, to be here now as a [insert team name in here] player is incredible and I couldn't be happier ..."

2pm: Mr 10% hasn't called, so knock on lid of sunbed to ask Claudine what I should do next. She says to check to see if there's any reporters from Sky Sports News standing shivering outside the house. I've been a massive fan of Sky Sports News all my life, going back to when I was a kid growing up in Dublin.

2.05pm: Dash to window and look, but can't see any reporters from Sky Sports News.

4pm: Remember to open curtains and see inquisitive face of shivering, microphone-wielding eejit in Sky Sports puffa jacket staring back at me. I've been a massive fan of Andy Burton all my life, going back to when I was a kid growing up in Dublin.

4.30pm: Get call from Mr 10% - the Queen's Celtic have come in for me!!! That's great news. I've been a massive fan of the Queen's Celtic all my life, going back to when I was a kid growing up in Dublin.

4.35pm: Get on AA route-finder. 401.4 miles!?!?!? I can't get there by the deadline at 5pm.

5.40pm: Ring Mr 10% to explain predicament. Apparently the transfer window in Scotland doesn't close until midnight, so I've time to get a flight. A flight? I've been a massive fan of flying all my life, going back to when I was a kid growing up in Dublin.

5.45pm: Knock on lid of sunbed and tell Claudine we're moving to Glasgow.

5.50pm: Orange arm emerges from sunbed holding Armani washbag containing cheese sandwiches and a Lucozade bottle full of cold tea. I've been a massive fan of packed lunch all my life going back to when I was a kid growing up in Dublin.

5.55pm: Leave house, step over frozen corpse of microphone-wielding man in Sky Sports puffa jacket. Drive to airport, get on plane.

9pm: Appear before press at Queen's Celtic Park wearing green and white hoops, the colours of Queen's Celtic who I've been a massive fan of all my life, going back to when I was a kid growing up in Dublin. "It's absolutely unbelievable. I always wanted to play for the [Queen's] Celtic and it works out well for both parties."

9.05pm: Check fixture list. Next up it's Kilmarnock away. I've been a massive fan of Kilma … actually no, I've never heard of them.

[bennocelt]

just because he got a reputation from people who dont understand that alot of Irish people support Celtic as well as an english club doesnt mean that crap like that has to be repeated by people on here who should know better


Well Keane was the one that brought all this rubbish up..............and it was doing the rounds in English fanzines (and i think yahoos Early Doors as well)

Why stop at 3 teams though - what about Welsh or Norn Iron teams or are they not decent enough for you???

Were you at the Bray game the other day? Galways support was pitiful...........

[OwlsFan]

All this is irrelevant. I couldn't care less if he joined Wednesday and he said it was his "boyhood dream". What does it matter? So long as he keeps scoring for Ireland, that's all I care about. It will be a sad day for Ireland when he hangs up his international boots.

[Cuyahoga]

I agree with that but robbie playing for now league one wednesday is pushing it!
all this is irrelevant. I couldn't care less if he joined wednesday and he said it was his "boyhood dream". What does it matter? So long as he keeps scoring for ireland, that's all i care about. It will be a sad day for ireland when he hangs up his international boots.

[outspoken]

Ok mate every body is entitled to their opinion and you have a good argument there I will admit and thanks for welcoming me to the forum I love it here already and cant wait to have the full list of rights everyone else has here it shouldnt be long now.

[geysir]

Boyhood dreams??

which ones? the hattrick in the last two minutes variety?



or just an ordinary run of the mill boyhood dream, like scoring in the last minute of a WC group game



http://rikruca.dk/images/VM2002/Robbie_Keane_wheels_away_after_his_90th_minute_goa l_against_Germany.jpg

and leaving the endearing image of

http://rikruca.dk/images/VM2002/Oliver_Kahn_wants_the_ground_to_swallow_him_up.jpg

[Razors left peg]

Well Keane was the one that brought all this rubbish up..............and it was doing the rounds in English fanzines (and i think yahoos Early Doors as well)

Why stop at 3 teams though - what about Welsh or Norn Iron teams or are they not decent enough for you???

Were you at the Bray game the other day? Galways support was pitiful...........

Wasnt at the Bray game the other day because I have to work on fridays so dont get to travel to the away games but I will be up in Terryland tonight as usual.

I'll give u my reasons for the 3 clubs so, Galway United because I was brought to games as a baby so have been over 30 years going matches now. Man United because like most kids growing up I watched English football and because Frank Stapleton was my favorited Irish player at the time they became my favorite club. Celtic because all my family around me supported them so it became a natural thing for me to follow them too.... I do watch spanish football too and sometimes I might go crazy and even go as far as to watch a game from the K league if its on the box, I love football and will watch it from anywhere if theres a game on... and I find it odd that I have to justify that on football forum

[bennocelt]

Wasnt at the Bray game the other day because I have to work on fridays so dont get to travel to the away games but I will be up in Terryland tonight as usual.

I'll give u my reasons for the 3 clubs so, Galway United because I was brought to games as a baby so have been over 30 years going matches now. Man United because like most kids growing up I watched English football and because Frank Stapleton was my favorited Irish player at the time they became my favorite club. Celtic because all my family around me supported them so it became a natural thing for me to follow them too.... I do watch spanish football too and sometimes I might go crazy and even go as far as to watch a game from the K league if its on the box, I love football and will watch it from anywhere if theres a game on... and I find it odd that I have to justify that on football forum

But what? watching or supporting - there is a bit of a difference................... you said support three teams.............not possible IMHO.........isnt one enough. And what about the Welsh teams?

[Razors left peg]

I explained my reasons for supporting those 3 teams, have a look at my previous post again. I cant explain it any better than that so if u still dont get it Im afraid I cant help

[Acornvilla]

ok i think he is a ''supporter'' of galway and more a ''fan'' of the other two? there is nothing wrong with that? well i don't think anyway?

there is little difference anyway, quit picking at trivial stuff seriously

[elroy]

So...........any chance whatsoever of Keane hanging around Spurs and getting CL football next season? Keanes biggest rival is arguably Defore and after a great start to the season, he has really gone off the boil. Only one goal in the last 7 and that was from the spot. 2 goals in his last 12 games! Admittedly the lad has got 21 league goals for them this season but 5 of them were in one game. If Keane was still around at Spurs I think he may have well pushed Defoe very close for a starting place in recent weeks.

[Drumcondra 69er]

So...........any chance whatsoever of Keane hanging around Spurs and getting CL football next season? Keanes biggest rival is arguably Defore and after a great start to the season, he has really gone off the boil. Only one goal in the last 7 and that was from the spot. 2 goals in his last 12 games! Admittedly the lad has got 21 league goals for them this season but 5 of them were in one game. If Keane was still around at Spurs I think he may have well pushed Defoe very close for a starting place in recent weeks.

Depends where they finish for me. If Spurs get 3rd they'll spend a truckload this summer, if they have to wait for a qualifier (which could well be a very difficult games to get through) then they may have to wait until they've got through that before spending big. Which could give Keane the chance to lay down a marker. But I reckon Redknapp will try and ship him out.

I mean getting CL qualification could be a blessing in disguise for Keane, they'll need a bigger squad next season so there may be scope for games if he's still there. I feel the sun has set on his Spurs career though, if he winds up at Everton or Villa he'll be lucky. I'd say he's kicking himself that he went out on loan now, he'll be hoping that Crouch and Defoe pick up injuries during the summer! I reckon had he stayed he may well have got a good few games in the run in, Pavleyechenko wasn't getting a look in before Keane left and played a significant part, reckon he'll go this summer as well though.

[dr_peepee]

It's a strange one. If Spurs are to push on or consolidate then it should be important to have someone of the calibre and experience of Keane as one of the forward options in the squad... . I don't think it'll do either of them well to stay around each other but they'll do well to better each other should they part ways. And by that i mean that assuming now he's 3rd in line as a Spurs forward, I'd struggle to name a better player to come in and offer what he has to offer as a forward back up option for a club challenging on four fronts.

Defoe and Pav are only good when starting regularly. Any marquee signing is going to oust someone or either not be content with the bench either way causing some displacement.

The Spurs-Keane thing's gone stale is all, really. If they can get past it, it'll be mutually benificial in the long run.

[Wolfie]

Himself and Berbatov can renew their striking partnership next Autumn somewhere for a fraction of what it was rated at about 3 years ago.

Everything must go!!!!!

[ShamrockIreland]

It's true he supported Liverpool since he was a kid. He never mentioned any other English team, and I've know he was a Liverpool fan from early on. As for supporting Celtic most Irish people have them as their 'other' team so if he's guilty a lot more of us are aswell. It's funny how times have changed a few seasons ago Keane was considered Spurs best player. I agree they've done well without him the same can be said without Berbatov though.

[geysir]

I thought Berbatov was an excellent partner for Robbie (and vice versa), but their imposed divorce did neither of them any good.
Their performances earned big money transfers for Spurs.

[Docboy]

I think the role Keane played in organising the Spurs trip to Dublin just before Christmas, and a few days before they lost at home to Wolves, played a big role in his decision to head to Glasgow. Reckon Redknapp would have lost a lot of trust in him then and Robbie's not one to stick around if he's not going to get game time.

That said, Redknapp has shown his willingness to bring other outcasts in from the cold (Bale, Pav & Bentley most prominently) so there's a chance Keane will stick around if he has a good preseason. One thing's for sure though, he won't be guaranteed a place in starting line-up and you'd have to wonder whether Robbie would be willing to accept that.

[Crosby87]

Champions League and Robbie just don't mix apparently.

[Colbert Report]

I'd like to see him playing 90 minutes every match for a team like Wolves, Newcastle or Blackburn.

[Razors left peg]

I still think he better than Defoe who goes missing in most big games

[Stuttgart88]

I'd have agreed last year but I was very impressed by Defoe this season. I was looking for reasons to criticise him but couldn't find many!

[Razors left peg]

I watched him pretty closely recently in the games against Man City and Man United and he was subbed after about an hour of both games. I think he was excellent earlier in the season and he does very well against the teams outside of the top 6 but I really think he is poor against the very top teams.... Id actually like to see if the stats back me up on that

[dr_peepee]

I'd have agreed last year but I was very impressed by Defoe this season. I was looking for reasons to criticise him but couldn't find many!

Clinical player, quality finisher... But he's a hungry ****!!! I sware if Spurs were beaten 2-1 but he got Spurs consolation he'd walk off the pitch a happy man. I would have liken to see Keane and an in form Bale in the same team. I reckon we'd have seen a strong finish to the season from Keane had he been around. I believe there's a bit of friction between Harry and Defoe lately too.

[Serb]

I think he was excellent earlier in the season and he does very well against the teams outside of the top 6 but I really think he is poor against the very top teams.... Id actually like to see if the stats back me up on that

Here are Defoe's stats for goals versus top 6 teams over the past 4 seasons:


09-10: 18 Goals: 1 v Manchester United 15 v All others
1 v Manchester City -
1 v Chelsea -
08-09: 3 Goals: 0 v any top 6 3 v All others
07-08: 7 Goals: 1 v Everton 6 v All others
06-07: 12 Goals: 1 v Chelsea 11 v All others
================================================== ========
Total: 40 Goals 5 v Top 6 35 v All othersThe numbers alone don't prove anything because, obviously, he's going to score less goals in the 12 games he has against top 6 sides relative to the 26 games he has against other opposition. He also didn't feature a whole lot for either Tottenham or Portsmouth in any of his seasons apart from this one. Maybe a goals per game in either would be more useful?


09-10: Scored in 33% of games versus top 6. (3 goals in 9 games).
Scored in 60% of games versus all others. (15 goals in 25 games).

08-09: Scored in 0% of games versus top 6. (0 goals in 2 games).
Scored in 50% of games versus all others. (3 goals in 6 games).

07-08: Scored in 17% of games versus top 6. (1 goal in 6 games).
Scored in 46% of games versus all others. (6 goals in 13 games).

07-08: Scored in 20% of games versus top 6. (1 goal in 5 games).
Scored in 42% of games versus all others. (11 goals in 26 games).He has an overall ratio of 5 goals in 22 games against top 6 opponents, a ratio of 1 goal every 4.4 games. He has a ratio of 1 goal every 2 games versus non-top six opponents (35 goals in 70 games).

QED?

[yapster]

If Keane is better than Defoe then he wouldn't have been shipped out to Celtic in the first place. Spurs have done great to qualify for the CL next season.

[Razors left peg]

If Keane is better than Defoe then he wouldn't have been shipped out to Celtic in the first place. Spurs have done great to qualify for the CL next season.

It about opinions... Martin Jol sold Defoe to keep Robbie

[Razors left peg]

Thanks a million Serb. The numbers I think do back up what I was saying. I do realise of course that it is much more difficult to score against the bigger teams but for me the problem with Defoe is that if hes not scoring in games he really doesnt give the team anything else where as Robbie might not be as clinical a finisher as him I think Robbie will give u a better work rate and will create more for other team mates

[yapster]

It about opinions... Martin Jol sold Defoe to keep Robbie


there you go...

[EalingGreen]

Although I've always been a fan of Robbie's and have always stuck up for him in the past, I would be hugely surprised if he ever played for Spurs again, and if so, would say he has no-one only himself to blame.

For as it was, he was always "batting on a sticky wicket" under Redknapp, since Crouch (signed 3 times by Harry) and Defoe (managed with 3 clubs by Harry) were always going to be the manager's first choice strike duo. Moreover, when RK came back from Anfield, it was in the context that the manager was desperate for players, and the Chairman was, as always, happy to make a tidy "turn" from Liverpool.

Which is not to say that RK would never have played under Harry, one of whose strengths is not to be too dogmatic when it comes to selection, personalities, formations and form. (Somebody said earlier that Harry had "frozen out" the likes of Bale, Bentley and Pavylichenko from the team earlier in the season; not so, in fact it was quite the opposite - although he wasn't picking them, it was only because he had better laternatives at the time, which the players accepted. Therefore when he recalled them, they weren't resentful, but gave it their best shot).

No, what did for RK was defying Harry's express instruction that there would be no Xmas Players Party, by covertly organising one in Dublin under the guise of a "Golfing Trip". Faced with potential rebellion in the ranks, Harry could have lashed out at all of them. Instead, he was cuter than that, by going for the chief mutineer. I distinctly remember when Harry first heard of it, he really gave RK what for and I said to myself, "That's the end of Robbie".

However, a couple of days later, Harry was much more conciliatory. Most people took that as a sign Harry was backing off, but I had little doubt that he went to his Chairman, demanding that RK be sold in the January window, only to be told that the club wanted back most/all of the fee they paid Liverpool. As it happens, there were no takers, so Harry was clever enough to offload him (and his wages) to Celtic, to buy himself time.

And in that period, he signed Eidur Gudjonnson on loan (v.similar type player to Robbie), and reinvigorated Pav, who would have been sold had there been a big enough offer.

Thereafter, having asserted his authority and restored the morale in his squad, Harry managed to get Spurs into the Champions League, which means that the Chairman will now loosen the purse strings to allow Harry to sign another couple of strikers and take the first half-decent offer for RK.

Of course, it is just possible that no such offer will come in for RK. In which case, he will have to come back to Spurs. But if he does so, it will be strictly on Harry's terms and quite honestly, the trust having been broken between them, I doubt whether it can ever be regained.

Sad, but as a Spurs fan, I believe no player is ever bigger than the club, therefore so be it.

P.S. For all those posters slagging off Jermain Defoe as being overrated etc, you are, of course, entitled to your opinion. I personally don't share it, but that's neither here nor there, since Harry clearly rates him and it's his opinion which counts - something Robbie Keane should have heeded...

P.P.S. Fabio Capello also seems happy enough to have JD in his squad (if not First XI), which must count for something.

[EalingGreen]

It about opinions... Martin Jol sold Defoe to keep Robbie

As the late, great Brian Clough always used to point out, no Manager ever sold (or bought) a player - it is always the Chairman's name on the cheque, whether Payee or Signatory.

And if you disagree with that, just remind me who "sold" Jol to acquire Ramos?

Anyhow, for information, there was a period soon after Jol took over where Defoe and Berba were clearly his first choice strikers (although he sometimes used Robbie as a third striker wide/'in the hole'). Then JD was injured for a period, RK came in in his place and played so well that he stayed in the team even when JD was fit again.

At which point, Jol had a problem, since Defoe took the hump, particularly since not playing regularly for Spurs was harming his England prospects. Then RK signed a five year contract, Spurs signed Darren Bent for £16m(!!!), Pompey came up with an offer which would recoup what they'd paid WHU for him and JD got the chance to play once more for the manager who'd given him his break in football, one 'Arry Redknapp...