Robbie Keane

[mypost]

Spurs can have the €35 million and Voronin. :D

Keane then wins Liverpool the league on the last PL day of the season, thereby condemning Voronin and Spurs to missing 6 gilt-edged chances and a CL spot.

Money well spent. :)

[eirebhoy]

"A £20m-rated deal involving Crouch "

Probably Crouch plus £8m.

[Emmet]

I can't see how he would fit into Liverpool's team unless it was as a wide midfield player. Torres and Gerrard seem to be Benitez's preference for the front two ... as a backup for Torres maybe?

[DotTV]

I was just looking on one of the Liverpool forums there and they all seem happy at the prospect of getting Keane on board. I'd say he'd go to them in a flash. He'd be playing CL and pushing for the EPL title. Playing alongside Torres could improve him aswell.
I think it'd be great for Ireland. The more players we have at the top clubs the better. bring it on.

[Legendary Bear]

Crumlin United would be happy. Im not sure what the percentage is but I think they got a good few bob from his previous moves.

[stojkovic]

They wont get a red cent.

[Metrostars]

I can't see how he would fit into Liverpool's team unless it was as a wide midfield player. Torres and Gerrard seem to be Benitez's preference for the front two ... as a backup for Torres maybe?

I think he would be a perfect fit, torres+keane. Gerrard will drop deeper into midfield.

[geysir]

They wont get a red cent.

Are Crumlin not on 5%? a cool £1m from a £20m - maybe it's less than that.
FIFA ruling on
Keane transfer boosts junior clubs (http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2003/11/14/story60160667.asp)

[Green_Hoop]

Are Crumlin not on 5%? a cool £1m from a £20m - maybe it's less than that.
FIFA ruling on
Keane transfer boosts junior clubs (http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/2003/11/14/story60160667.asp)

Doubt it now? Although you never know.

[tetsujin1979]

I think he would be a perfect fit, torres+keane. Gerrard will drop deeper into midfield.
isn't that why they're signing Gareth Barry, so Gerrard won't have to drop deep?

[Emmet]

I can't see Robbie making it into a full strength Liverpool side. He'll get games in the Carling Cup and in the League games following big CL nights but he won't move Torres or Gerrard who he will be competing with up front. If he has a chance of making it into Liverpool's team for those bigger games it will only be as a wide midfielder in the same way that Kuyt currently does.

[Cabs88]

To be honest, if he's guaranteed first team football by Ramos at Spurs, he should stay put. I cant see him feature regulary with Liverpool, as benitez seems certain to start gerrard just off torres, and thats why he is so persistent in Garreth Barry to offer balance in the middle. Besides Kuyt's game is the exact seem as Keane, playing off a main striker dropping deep, and he had a good tournament, and is imo underated at liverpool.
Robbie Should stay put

[geysir]

Doubt it now? Although you never know.
I can't really work it out from the article if Eoin Hand is referring to that the training fee is just payable once on all future transfers from FAI to FA
or that it is payable on all future RK transfers

'The significant point we made to FIFA was that Keane had moved out of the jurisdiction of the FAI and because of that all subsequent transfers were governed by the new regulations'
'Spurs should have deducted five per cent of the fee payable to Leeds and that is what will happen in future transfers'.

I am sure that Crumlin will know if a payment is due:)

[Hibernian]

I can't see Robbie making it into a full strength Liverpool side. He'll get games in the Carling Cup and in the League games following big CL nights but he won't move Torres or Gerrard who he will be competing with up front. If he has a chance of making it into Liverpool's team for those bigger games it will only be as a wide midfielder in the same way that Kuyt currently does.

i think he would get his fair amount of games myself

i think he should go champs league football could bring him up that step

[mypost]

I can't really work it out from the article if Eoin Hand is referring to that the training fee is just payable once on all future transfers from FAI to FA
or that it is payable on all future RK transfers

'The significant point we made to FIFA was that Keane had moved out of the jurisdiction of the FAI and because of that all subsequent transfers were governed by the new regulations'
'Spurs should have deducted five per cent of the fee payable to Leeds and that is what will happen in future transfers'.

I am sure that Crumlin will know if a payment is due:)

Crumlin United don't deal in the Queen's banknote, so when the earlier quoted amount is converted, they would make almost €2 million, for Ireland's record-breaking goalscorer. They are entitled to payments from any Rob transfer.

You don't pay €30 million for a player to keep him on the bench. Gerrard will play in midfield, while Keane will partner Torres upfront as the main strike force.

[eekers]

Tottenham wont let him go simple as that. And there's nothing Keane can do about it (he signed a 5 year contract last summer). And Crouch doesnt want to go from sitting on the bench at Liverpool to sitting on the bench at spurs , when he can get first team football at portsmouth. The transfer has no legs.

[Pauro 76]

The transfer has no legs.

Unlike Crouchy. Keano is adored in north London, he'll surely stay there.that said, Ramos substitued him many times over Berbatov so who knows.

[tricky_colour]

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3761027,00.html
http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=758248

[redobit]

If there is any real truth to this transfer then he will go because of this simple reason: 'Robbie wants medals'.
That was more than evident in his celebrations recently after winning the league Cup. Liverpool will get you medals and spurs wont.

[tomred23]

I remember in Robbie Fowlers book that he got a text of a teammate asking would he like to join Liverpool (when Houllier was there), the teammate sent it to the wrong Robbie! on his phone and Robbie Keane actually said no but i think he was with Leeds at the time and they were doing well then.

[gustavo]

I can't see Keane leaving them for Liverpool ,He's the club captain AFAIK and he'd probably be looking to see how things go with Ramos in his first full season

[Drumcondra 69er]

I thought he was a Leeds fan?! He should stay put. If he goes, he'll get the odd game. Just look at Torres at the start of last season! I hope he says put. He's to good to be played in a squad rotation system. I would argue, on his day, he'd be one of the top 5 centre-forwards in the the prem playing for the home nations.

Robbie's Dad was the Leeds fan, Robbie always liked Leeds but Liverpool was who he supported.

And he wasn't from any of the 4 home nations last time I checked..........

[Pauro 76]

Jaysis I stand corrected then. A good move if he goes. Sounds bad, but great to see an Irish player with ambition. (eg Shay not moving to Arsenal)

[third policeman]

<P>Massive buzz in Liverpool about this and loads of positive calls on LFCTV phone in last night. I am genuinely surprised by how highly rated Keane is by neutrals. I half suspected my admiration for his talents was based purely on his nationality. The way the issue was presented on LFCTV last night and the comments by David Fairclough stongly suggests that this is not just paper talk. If Liverpool want Keane he will be off to Anfield for no other reason than the chance to play Champions League.</P>

[Seagull-4-life]

Considering torres was less than 25m (or 28?) and was much younger than keane i really doubt benitez is about to spend 25m + crouch to land keane

[cavan_fan]

Tottenham wont let him go simple as that. And there's nothing Keane can do about it (he signed a 5 year contract last summer). And Crouch doesnt want to go from sitting on the bench at Liverpool to sitting on the bench at spurs , when he can get first team football at portsmouth. The transfer has no legs.

In the real world his 5 year contract is as relevant as Gareth Barry's. Robbie will go if he wants and there is a half decent offer. I do think Spurs would be loath to let him go if Berbatov is going as well unless Ramos is going to put together a new strike force (prob from Spain).

[EalingGreen]

The figure I've seen quoted is £5m stg, plus Crouch, which would equal around £15m stg(?), which I would say would be about right.

I can see why Benitez would want him. As someone said, he might not be the best finisher around (though he does OK), but as an all-round forward, he's one of the best in the premiership (imo). In particular, he brings the best out in the players round him e.g. look at the way Berbatov settled in to English football immediately. Before that, he and Defoe were OK, despite the similarity of styles. Therefore, I think he'd be excellent with the prolific Torres, as well as meaning Gerrard wouldn't have to deputise as the second striker occasionally.

As for the number of games he'd get, he might not play every one, but I can't see Benitez paying that sort of money for him, and risking unsettling his current strikers, unless Keane was earmarked to play in the big games - which should satisfy Keane. On top of which, Liverpool are bigger payers than Spurs, which never does any harm in tempting a player to move!

That said, I'm not sure Spurs will sell him, at least not soon. For one thing, sorting out Berbatov's likely transfer has to be first priority. And I can't see Bent staying. Plus with Defoe having left last season, Spurs could be very short of strikers. Therefore, Ramos will need to know how much he has to spend and whether he can guarantee to secure replacements, before he can think of releasing Robbie.

On top of which, Ramos seems to rate Robbie highly enough and the player is hugely popular at WHL, which means the Board will be reluctant to sell both him AND Berba.

As a Spurs fan, I'd still be reasonably hopeful of keeping him, though I'll be glad when the end of August arrives with RK still in a white shirt!

[RogerMilla]

That said, I'm not sure Spurs will sell him, at least not soon. For one thing, sorting out Berbatov's likely transfer has to be first priority. And I can't see Bent staying. Plus with Defoe having left last season, Spurs could be very short of strikers. Therefore, Ramos will need to know how much he has to spend and whether he can guarantee to secure replacements, before he can think of releasing Robbie.
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surely if spurs are serious about breaking into the top four then they cannot let either berba or robbie go ?

I belive in his book robbie says he is allowed contractually to speak to the "big four" , can anyone confirm ?

[dr_peepee]

EG...

Have you heard or read anything about him handing in a Transfer Request???

Just seen it there on F365 and wondering if it's just idle speculation.

[shakermaker1982]

Like EG says it will be Crouch + £5m. If I were Spurs I'd tell Liverpool to stop taking the mick. They'd be better off with a straight cash deal and then bring in a class replacement.

It would be a good move for Keane......then again Bellamy thought the same and was quickly moved on after 12 months.

[co. down green]

According to THIS (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=A1&xml=/sport/2008/07/01/ufnkeane101.xml) report Keane is keen to move

Tottenham striker Robbie Keane has told the club's management that he wants to leave after hearing of Liverpool's interest in signing him.

[EalingGreen]

surely if spurs are serious about breaking into the top four then they cannot let either berba or robbie go ?

Believe me, the Board at Spurs is very serious about breaking into the Top Four - though not for the usual reasons. :mad:
Basically, Levy and the club's main investor (Joe Lewis) have seen the huge amounts other English clubs have gone for and want to sell and make a huge profit. But the key to achieving the optimum price is Champions League football.
Without it, Spurs might be worth £200-£250m (in a good market), but with CL football, they might command as much as twice that.
Which for me explains three things. A few years ago, after years of talking big and acting small, the Board at last seemed to have settled on a long-term strategy which could see them eventually break into the Top Four, namely, buying the best young English/British talent (Robinson, Carrick, Defoe, Lennon, Huddleston, Dawson, Bale, even Bent! etc) and giving them a chance which they wouldn't get at a Top Four club, to develop into top players over 3-4 years by playing regularly in the Prem.
I now realise that all they were doing was getting the Balance sheet into top shape to impress prospective buyers i.e. such players have tremendous sell-on value.
Further, the real reason why Jol was sacked (imo) was because after two fifth place finishes, the Board demanded CL qualification the next season, and Jol was too honest to promise it - he knows that you don't build a team to compete consistently with the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea and MU etc in the course of three seasons: unless you've got "Abramovitch money", it takes at least 5 years (10, more like, imo).
Finally, Spurs have been dithering between either expanding WHL (£100 m?)or moving elsewhere (£300m?) for years now, yet nothing has happened. This can only be because any prospective buyer seeing either liability will reduce his bid accordingly.

Where does this leave RK and Berba? Basically, since Berba seems determined to go, there's not a damned thing Spurs can do, other than hold out for a top fee (£25m?). RK might be different, since he's on a longer contract, is more settled at Spurs, and wouldn't command either the same Transfer Fee or wages.

My guess is that the key factor will be if Ramos believes he can use whatever portion of the proceed he is allowed to keep to make Spurs a stronger team, then the Board will back him. Therefore, if he has already two or three affordable strikers lined up (probably Spanish?), then Berba (definitely) and RK (possibly) will be allowed to go.


I belive in his book robbie says he is allowed contractually to speak to the "big four" , can anyone confirm ?
Very possible. Ostensibly, such an arrangement is for the benefit of two parties. Firstly, it means the player isn't forced into putting in a transfer request, thereby losing out on bonuses, loyalty rewards etc. Secondly, the Top Four club doesn't have to worry about "tapping up" etc.
But Spurs won't have granted this for nothing. At the very least, they'll likely have stipulated that it can only be triggered by a minimum transfer fee.
Also, it will likely have been a factor in persuading Robbie to sign a longer contract than he might otherwise have considered.
In which case, having him tied up for another 4 years(?) actually gives Spurs at least as much protection, should they not wish to sell, as they forfeit by the granting of the Big Four clause.

[EalingGreen]

According to THIS (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=A1&xml=/sport/2008/07/01/ufnkeane101.xml) report Keane is keen to move

Tottenham striker Robbie Keane has told the club's management that he wants to leave after hearing of Liverpool's interest in signing him.

Fair enough, but assuming he has a clause in his contract permitting him to speak to any Top Four club which enquired, then it costs him nothing to say this. However, if he could also be persuaded to see out his contract at Spurs, this gives his Agent tremendous bargaining power towards renegotiating a new, enhanced wage deal.

I still think the key to his going or staying will be whether Ramos can secure affordable replacements first.

[soccerc]

According to THIS (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=A1&xml=/sport/2008/07/01/ufnkeane101.xml) report Keane is keen to move

Tottenham striker Robbie Keane has told the club's management that he wants to leave after hearing of Liverpool's interest in signing him.

For what it's worth, I was informed that Robbie was on his way to Liverpool and it was a done deal back in late May, the week of the Serbia game.

I can back up the above statement but thought there was nothing in it

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For what it's worth, I was informed that Robbie was on his way to Liverpool and it was a done deal back in late May, the week of the Serbia game.

I can back up the above statement but thought there was nothing in it


??????

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well i think it would be great for robbie and for ireland -think he will do very well at anfield

rumours that benitez is lookin to play a 4-2-3-1 formation - which if true - would see robbie play a large percentage of games imo

tucked in behind torres - good for ireland , as trapp wants him to play a similar role (i.e totti role)

C.L footie can only improve him i think

[drinkfeckarse]

I'd like to see it happen but only at a price. £20 is totally OTT. I would genuinely rate Robbie in the £10-£12m bracket personally.

Could see him being a modern day Dalglish at Anfield :)

[John83]

I'd like to see it happen but only at a price. £20 is totally OTT.
Jaysus, I know he gets a lot of stick here, but surely Robbie's worth more than the jersey on his back.

[seanfhear]

It wil be interesting to see how this pans out .Maybe its just a diversion so that if they sell berbatov and then keep keane it wont seem so bad to spurs supporters.I think it would be a good move for keane playing with torres and with a team that regularly qualifies for the champions league.Spurs flatter only to decieve

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It wil be interesting to see how this pans out .Maybe its just a diversion so that if they sell berbatov and then keep keane it wont seem so bad to spurs supporters.I think it would be a good move for keane playing with torres and with a team that regularly qualifies for the champions league.Spurs flatter only to decieve

was listening to ON THE BALL last nite on sportstalk - they had journalist Graham Hunter on - he was saying , that jamie carragher was/is involved in the whole thing - (i didnt realise they are mates) - and hunter came across as that it was going to happen

Hunter is normally in the right with stuff like that - wait and c i guess

[Joey Killester]

I presume you mean Off The Ball, on Newstalk or is On The Ball on Sportstalk something else that Hunter also talks on?

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I presume you mean Off The Ball, on Newstalk or is On The Ball on Sportstalk something else that Hunter also talks on?

you presume correctly joey - apologies

Indeed i meant Off the ball on Newstalk

[Razors left peg]

I might be wrong but as far as I know that in their same time at the club Robbie has more goals and more assists in the Premiership than Berbatov so if Berbratov is being talked about in a 30 million quid transfer a fee of 20 million seems pretty reasonable for Robbie

[co. down green]

According to THIS (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=A1&xml=/sport/2008/07/01/ufnkeane101.xml) report Keane is keen to move

Tottenham striker Robbie Keane has told the club's management that he wants to leave after hearing of Liverpool's interest in signing him.

Or maybe Robbie is staying (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/07/01/ufnkeane301.xml) at Spurs?

Robbie Keane’s future at White Hart Lane looks to be more secure tonight, with Tottenham discrediting reports which claim that the striker has filed a transfer requested to leave the club.

Same paper, same day, different angle.

'wants to leave' & later 'discrediting reports which claim that the striker has filed a transfer request'

If 'Tomorrow Never Comes' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8p17fF68MU&feature=related):)

[StephenMcG]

Or maybe Robbie is staying (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/07/01/ufnkeane301.xml) at Spurs?

Robbie Keane’s future at White Hart Lane looks to be more secure tonight, with Tottenham discrediting reports which claim that the striker has filed a transfer requested to leave the club.

Same paper, same day, different angle.

'wants to leave' & later 'discrediting reports which claim that the striker has filed a transfer request'

If 'Tomorrow Never Comes' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8p17fF68MU&feature=related):)

Spurs have confirmed that he has not requested a transfer, but won't answer questions on if he is committed to staying, and the latest is that Keane has asked to be kept informed of Liverpool's interest.

[dr_peepee]

I think he's found his level at Spurs to be honest.

That's not to say I wouldn't be delighted for him and wish him all the best if the move to Liverpool materializes.

[The Legend]

I think he's found his level at Spurs to be honest.

That's not to say I wouldn't be delighted for him and wish him all the best if the move to Liverpool materializes.

I actually think he'd form a great partnership with Torres and champions league would do him no harm, i cant see Spurs making it for another few years if at all.

[mackannovic]

If Keane has any ambition as a player her should definitely leave Spurs for Liverpool. Not moving would just class him with Shay Given in terms of being a player reluctant to miove from a club going nowhere and doing themselves no favours. The more Keane challenges himself the better for Ireland. Playing against Champions League opposition and in a more pressurised league situation i.e. Liverpool must challange for the title and win and perform most weeks whereas Spurs simply need to get back on track in the league. If he really is as good as people make him out to be he'll be playing and fine but the fact that people are questioning the move suggests that there is doubt whether he is of the top class.
If you played for Spurs would you move to Liverpool if they wanted you?
I would.

[EastTerracer]

I'd like to see it happen but only at a price. £20 is totally OTT. I would genuinely rate Robbie in the £10-£12m bracket personally.

Darren Bent was signed by Spurs for GBP16m last summer and Robbie has proved himself to be a far superior player. We often hear these fees and dismiss them as overdone or ridiculous. However, when you actually look at the players who are moving for large fees you do have to accept that some of our Irish players are worthy of much bigger transfer prices.

It's just the nature of the current transfer market.

[OwlsFan]

Asking price £20 million apparently.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/7483317.stm