Robbie Keane [Archive] - Page 46

seanfhear

26/01/2009, 1:48 PM

DeLorean

26/01/2009, 2:21 PM

All in all Rafa has done a rubbish job at Liverpool I think. The miracle Champions Lge win in his first season has covered up an enormous amount of frustration inflicted on Liverpool supporters in the majority of his time there. If Stevie G's late winner against Olympiakos hit the post or went narrowly wide that night at Anfield there's no way Benitez would have the backing of the local Liverpool support which he seems to have. He's an utter hypocrite as well talking about Everton's spoiling tactics when Liverpool themselves have been a very negative side since Houlier arrived and continued to be under Rafa.

mjpcc

26/01/2009, 2:25 PM

We could possibly reap some benefit alright, if Keane keeps the chin up - a determined Keane with a point to prove is not a bad scenario for us.
Totally agree with you Wolfie.

Robbie has shown throughout his career that he is no quitter. He has been through tought times with Spurs and Leeds and was always prepared to tought it out and prove himself.

He will be reved up for the game against Georgia - and I believe if he leaves Liverpool now it will not be his choice. If he stays at Liverpool and is given a chance he will eventually establish himself. If he goes elsewhere then hopefully it is to a club with a manager who appreciates him.

dr_peepee

26/01/2009, 2:27 PM

It's not actually an international break though. Our match with Georgia is thrown on the Wednesday with no break in Premier Lge matches. Expect injuries.

I didn't mean a break in the strictest sense. I meant some time in an environment were he's comfortable and valued more. Recharge the oul confidense. I firmly believe international football should provide an outlet for players seperate to that from Club football. It's something I feel Steven Ireland will rue in the long term.... Not being cheezy but at this point in time Robbie Keane needs a roar of support from 60 odd thousand paddies on Feb 11th........ (as well as a kick in the arse from a valued confidant for being such a li'l b1tch if the report of him storming out of Anfield is true.)

If Liverpool are relying on Kyut and the very often injured Torres then they sure better hope that nothing happens to Gerard.

Ironically, I believe that only in the absence of Gerard will Liverpool see the best of Robbie Keane. Not saying it's a seamless exchange of personnel by any stretch. Gerard is due an oul' hammer strain soon. I think Keane will come in to his own a bit then.

DeLorean

26/01/2009, 3:24 PM

Ironically, I believe that only in the absence of Gerard will Liverpool see the best of Robbie Keane. Not saying it's a seamless exchange of personnel by any stretch. Gerard is due an oul' hammer strain soon. I think Keane will come in to his own a bit then.

There's no guarantees that even in Gerrards absence Keane would get a game. He was left out of plenty matches when Torres was injured when it seemed almost impossible to leave him out.

jbyrne

26/01/2009, 3:47 PM

rednapp interested in robbie...

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/0126/keanerobbie.html

irishfan86

26/01/2009, 3:54 PM

rednapp interested in robbie...

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/0126/keanerobbie.html

Wouldn't that just make Jermain Defoe's day? :eek:

Keane would be going from one rotation system to another by moving to Tottenham in my view, unless Redknapp would be willing to do the unthinkable- a Keane/Defoe combination.

If that's going to be the case, rotating at a team that can compete for trophies is probably the better option.

Maroon 7

26/01/2009, 4:29 PM

If Liverpool are relying on Kyut and the very often injured Torres then they sure better hope that nothing happens to Gerard. Torres is a great player but he is so often injured or recovering from injuries that I would be really worried if my team was relying on him. Kyut has a great attitude and a good team player but he will just never get enough goals.
If I was the chairman that gave Benitez the money to buy Keane then I would expect him to get more out of the player.
I still believe that Benitez is more suited to a medium/big club but just does not have that xtra factor needed to manage a great club like Liverpool. If Benitez does move on in the summer it will be interesting to see if the Barcelona's or Real Madrids think that he can handle clubs in their league.

Benitez would have no problem getting a big job after Liverpool. He'll almost certainly get the Real Madrid job sooner or later. In his defence he has won plenty in his career. 1 Champions League, 1 UEFA Cup, 2 Spanish league titles, 1 FA Cup. He's undoubtably stubborn in his methods but it's hard to argue that he doesn't know what he's doing. The whole Keane situation is odd though. It almost looks like he wasn't a Benitez signing at all. Granted Robbie hasn't helped his own cause at times with some poor displays/bad misses but you have to feel sorry for him. Berbatov has hardly been pulling up trees at United either but Ferguson kept playing him for 90 minutes every game and he's started scoring a few vital goals for them lately.

irishfan86

26/01/2009, 4:44 PM

I think Benitez is good at organizing defences, and seems to make teams fairly solid; however, I think he's totally inept when it comes to getting the best out of offensive players.

Okay, any idiot can have Gerrard and Torres bang them in for you, but a lot of offensive players have failed to impress at Liverpool under Benitez over the past few years.

seanfhear

26/01/2009, 5:41 PM

Benitez would have no problem getting a big job after Liverpool. He'll almost certainly get the Real Madrid job sooner or later. In his defence he has won plenty in his career. 1 Champions League, 1 UEFA Cup, 2 Spanish league titles, 1 FA Cup. He's undoubtably stubborn in his methods but it's hard to argue that he doesn't know what he's doing. The whole Keane situation is odd though. It almost looks like he wasn't a Benitez signing at all. Granted Robbie hasn't helped his own cause at times with some poor displays/bad misses but you have to feel sorry for him. Berbatov has hardly been pulling up trees at United either but Ferguson kept playing him for 90 minutes every game and he's started scoring a few vital goals for them lately.
Can't argue with pretty much all of that but it still has to be said that he has not been sucessful or even nearly successful with Liverpool in the league.Maybe that will change this year, time will tell.
Its hard to believe that Liverpool would sign a player for what they payed for Robbie without Benitez giving his blessing.
Benitez still has to prove that he can win the league in England which is no easy task considering the financial strength of both Man utd and Chelsea(remains to be seen if this is going to continue. Has Abramovitch got bored and fed up paying for his plaything)

tricky_colour

27/01/2009, 2:48 AM

A somewhat amusing thing is that according to 'my bible' the Actim index Robbie Keane is the 31st best player in the Premiership amd the 5th best Liverpool player, despite the fact that he has not been playing much of late.
I don't know exactly how points are allocated but you certaintly don't get points for not playing.

Anyway I was just wondering if anyone else in the top 100 was not getting a game for his club, I am not going to do the leg work myself, but I am sure those of you who follow a particular team will be able to spot a player who is in the top 100 but not getting a game (and is fit/not suspended).
http://www.premierleague.com/page/ActimIndex/0,,12306,00.html

I mean does Benitez really think he is not good enough to play or is he just 'resting' him?

Benitez said, as quoted by the Sun: “We have a good squad and Keane was not selected. I have not seen him, so I don’t know how he has reacted.

Oh I think you do know how he reacted Mr Benitez, he reacted by not turning up :D

It seems like Benitez is not the brightest crayon in the box. (or should I say manager's dugout?).

Colbert Report

27/01/2009, 3:45 AM

Could Robbie really end up back at Spurs? Would the fans take him? It is kind of a slap in the face to leave and then beg back when it doesn't work out for you at the bigger club.

drummerboy

27/01/2009, 7:44 AM

Stuttgart88

27/01/2009, 8:25 AM

I wonder who'll leave Anfield first, Robbie or Benitez? Benitez is playing hardball with the owners of the club over his contract and having total control of footballing matters and I'm not sure he'll win in the end.

In an odd way, I think that if Ireland duty offers him a sanctuary from his troubles we'll get the benefit. During the latter part of Kerr's tenure I think our bigger players felt Irish duty was an unwelcome distraction from their bubble-like existence in England. Now I think they'll look to Irish duty as an escape from the slog of their day jobs.

The more I consider Benitez the more I think that the only thing he has brought to the English game is a touch of dignity and even that is fading away now. His tactics are miserable and couldn't contrast more with United or Arsenal - and Scolari's Chelsea too I suppose - who in their own different ways play attractive attacking football. Over the course of a season United's approach will win more marginal games than Liverpool's.

Dr. Ogba

27/01/2009, 8:29 AM

He should have never left Spurs. After years wondering around clubs he found a home. He was loved by the crowd, won a trophy, 2 top 5 finishes and Europe most seasons. It was never going to get any better for Robbie. I don't think Harry Redknapp would sign him, after signing Defoe.

its easy to say that now but to be fair to him he's been given a chance of actually winning things while in his prime so who could begrudge him taking that chance?

i've not always sung Robbie's praises on here but to be fair to him he's just never been given a fair go of it at the top clubs he's played at. Inter - signed by Lippi who was subsequently sacked a few months later only to be replaced by a manager (ironically Tardelli) who obviously just didn't like him.
And now Liverpool, seemingly signed by the board for a manager who just doesn't seem to know where to play him...

elroy

27/01/2009, 9:01 AM

In an odd way, I think that if Ireland duty offers him a sanctuary from his troubles we'll get the benefit. During the latter part of Kerr's tenure I think our bigger players felt Irish duty was an unwelcome distraction from their bubble-like existence in England. Now I think they'll look to Irish duty as an escape from the slog of their day jobs.

The above point was very relevant in the latter end of the McCarthy era, there were a number of players (Kilbane, Breen, McAteer) who werent having the best of times at their own clubs but when it came to playing for ireland they were given a welcome distraction and a new lease of life and overall played very well.

shakermaker1982

27/01/2009, 9:11 AM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jan/26/premier-league-liverpool-rafael-benitez

Keane/Benitez article with some interesting comments within the blog. Worth a read.

OwlsFan

27/01/2009, 3:07 PM

I have it from a good source that Robbie will be loaned out to Cowdenbeath.

Scram

27/01/2009, 3:11 PM

I have it from a good source that Robbie will be loaned out to Cowdenbeath.

A step above Sheffield Wednesday but cmon!! :D

carloz

27/01/2009, 3:27 PM

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/james-lawton-benitezs-treatment-of-keane-has-become-close-to-a-gruesome-joke-1516827.html

Interesting article

OwlsFan

27/01/2009, 4:33 PM

http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00119/keane5_119802t.jpg

No Carlsberg on Benitez's shirt I see:confused:.

Knowing Benitez though, Robbie could start the next 3 games, score a rake of goals and find himself warming the bench for the 4th game. Strange system he operates.

back of the net

27/01/2009, 9:38 PM

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_4856718,00.html

shakermaker1982

28/01/2009, 6:55 AM

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/james-lawton-benitezs-treatment-of-keane-has-become-close-to-a-gruesome-joke-1516827.html

Interesting article

James Lawton quote

"A huge part of the problem, no doubt, is that just as Keane and Torres failed to establish a natural rapport, the one struck up between the Spaniard and Gerrard is at times nothing less than sublime."

How many games have Keane and Torres played together this season? Torres has either been injured or Bentiez didn't have the balls to play 4-4-2. To call it a failure is OTT.

Scram

28/01/2009, 8:37 AM

http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=110669

Eirebhoy, we don't all spend our days shuffling through random loony websites :)

And how dare you accuse me of plagiarism! The Bullsh!t rumour actually came from Talksport. :D

tetsujin1979

28/01/2009, 9:57 AM

How many games have Keane and Torres played together this season? Torres has either been injured or Bentiez didn't have the balls to play 4-4-2. To call it a failure is OTT.
According to this[/url] - http://www.footballanorak.com/custom_team_performance.html?team_id=3&players[starts][617]=on&players[starts][1766]=on (http://www.footballanorak.com/custom_team_performance.html?team_id=3&players%5Bstarts%5D%5B617%5D=on&players%5Bstarts%5D%5B1766%5D=on) - they've started only 7 games in the Premiership out of 22
Won 3, Drawn 4, Lost 0

Just as comparison, Torres and Gerrard have started 6, won 4, drawn 2, lost 0 - http://www.footballanorak.com/custom_team_performance.html?team_id=3&players[starts][43]=on&players[starts][1766]=on (http://www.footballanorak.com/custom_team_performance.html?team_id=3&players%5Bstarts%5D%5B43%5D=on&players%5Bstarts%5D%5B1766%5D=on)
Keane and Gerrard have started 13, won 8, drawn 4, lost 1 - http://www.footballanorak.com/custom_team_performance.html?team_id=3&players[starts][617]=on&players[starts][43]=on (http://www.footballanorak.com/custom_team_performance.html?team_id=3&players%5Bstarts%5D%5B617%5D=on&players%5Bstarts%5D%5B43%5D=on)

tetsujin1979

28/01/2009, 6:49 PM

starts on the bench tonight for Liverpool.
Gerrard and Torres up front

Crosby87

28/01/2009, 7:55 PM

I thought for a while Benitez was just trying to motivate him in some old school coach psych thing but no, he just plain thinks Robbie cant help. (Or thinks he stinks, I mean lets be honest.)
Not a good sign for Robbie at LFC in my opinion.

Maroon 7

28/01/2009, 8:18 PM

Torres off with 20 minutes to go and..........Riera on.

tricky_colour

28/01/2009, 8:30 PM

Wigan got penalty as Robbie was warming up.
They scored 1:1
Robbie on now.

elroy

29/01/2009, 9:23 AM

Wigan got penalty as Robbie was warming up.
They scored 1:1
Robbie on now.

Delighted they got pegged back again, some strange substitutions by Benitez. Unless they beat Chelsea on sun that is the end of their challenge and unless they win the CL this season, i think Benitez will be gone during the summer. They have not won a single game since his "outburst", good man rafa!!
Rafa out i think is keanes best chance at pool at this stage.

strangeirish

29/01/2009, 11:36 AM

Robbie not going anywhere, apparently. (http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/soccer/2009/0128/1224240164310.html?via=mr)

Scram

29/01/2009, 1:24 PM

Delighted they got pegged back again, some strange substitutions by Benitez. Unless they beat Chelsea on sun that is the end of their challenge and unless they win the CL this season, i think Benitez will be gone during the summer. They have not won a single game since his "outburst", good man rafa!!
Rafa out i think is keanes best chance at pool at this stage.

Pool's best chance as well. Rafa's a bottler and a waffler!

Pike B

29/01/2009, 2:05 PM

I believe Rafa will quit within a month..

WexCar

29/01/2009, 6:59 PM

Spurs have made an enquiry for Keane

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4871624,00.html

Junior

29/01/2009, 7:23 PM

Spurs have made an enquiry for Keane

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4871624,00.html

Its unbelieveable whats going on Spurs.

Defoe back.
Chimbonda back
Keane..........

D'ya reckon oul 'arry had some brown paper envelopes doing the round whilst he was still at Pompey? something is not quite right......

craig7042

29/01/2009, 11:10 PM

Very true re Alonso at least, imo Keane is a better all round striker than Crouch. Alonso was very close to the exit door last season and funny how he arguably is liverpool's most influential player this year after Gerrard.

Alonso is great, but why Lucas? He fouls constantly and causes mahem. I cant see how liverpool can win the league, with the likes of Aurelio, Arbeloa, Lucas, and Ngog floating around and even playing so often. they all make crazy mistakes regularly.

craig7042

29/01/2009, 11:18 PM

Dont know if anyone has mentioned this, but to me Gerrard's situation has not helped things at the club. He's done brilliantly since, but its the sort of thing will catch up with you, and to me last night was that moment. Torres is knackered too. Keanes situation, and Benitez' bizarre use of useless players....never mind his arguments with the owners....

endabob1

30/01/2009, 5:42 AM

Its unbelieveable whats going on Spurs.

Defoe back.
Chimbonda back
Keane..........

D'ya reckon oul 'arry had some brown paper envelopes doing the round whilst he was still at Pompey? something is not quite right......

Madness; Keane & Defoe can't play together, we've been down that road before, it's why Defoe left in the first place....
Madness I tell you, buy a bloody left winger, we've been waiting since Duff turned us down for his 30 pieces of silver at Newcastle, Since Ginola swagerred off into the sunset, Since Chrissy Waddle went to Marseille to almost win the European Cup, Since Tony Galvin was marauding down the touch line mumbling in Russian with his head down and his socks around his ankles.....if I'm to be guilty of repeating myself, stop pi$$ing about with midget strikers and buy a bloody left winger.....and breathe...Strangely I feel better now!

Pike B

30/01/2009, 10:52 AM

....do you really believe that? I mean honestly?
Yes Ciaran, yes I do!!

strangeirish

31/01/2009, 4:25 PM

Word going around the Liverpool forums that Keane is not even in the squad to face Chelsea tomorrow. If true, surely his Liverpool career is over?

sligofan4ever

31/01/2009, 8:08 PM

Why spend 20 million on someone who will be left on the bench ?

Unless Benitez has a long, hard think on what he's doing with Keane, I reckon he'll move back to spurs. Atleast he'll be treated there properly, Benitez is treating Keane like sh!te.

Crosby87

31/01/2009, 8:58 PM

This is shocking. He must be shelving him in hopes he can get rid of him by monday.
Crazy. He is not that bad.

DmanDmythDledge

31/01/2009, 9:04 PM

Defoe is out for 10 weeks with a metatarsal injury. Maybe Keane has been left out because of an imminent departure. Very unlikely though, unfortunately.

Noelys Guitar

31/01/2009, 9:33 PM

Keane back to Spurs for 15 mill according to the Mail.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1133129/Spurs-end-Keanes-Anfield-misery--I-didn-8217-t-sanction-20m-transfer-place-admits-angry-Benitez.html

Radio 5 are quoting Benitez directly as saying "the Club spent 20 million on Keane". Not good. And Keane is definetely not in the squad for the Chelsea game.

co. down green

31/01/2009, 9:59 PM

Noelys Guitar

31/01/2009, 10:03 PM

Does Premier League rules not state that you cannot return to your previous club within 12 months - rule L19?

Chimbonda, Defoe etc

reder

31/01/2009, 10:43 PM

http://www.thisisanfield.com/news/2009/01/keane-not-in-chelsea-squad-reports/

Wonder if its more than speculation? It's said he didn't train today.

He did train today, I can guarantee you that but he isnt in the squad tomorrow. He has been treated disgracefully by Rafa Benitez who has used him as a pawn in his battle with the owners and Parry in particular. Also, he did want Keane, contrary to any paper talk tomorrow. Unfortunately, he only wanted him if he got Barry as well. Since he didnt get Barry, he has turned on Keane. Also, if he got Barry, he wanted rid of Alonso. Thats where the transfer speculation surrounding Xabi came from in the summer.

Thats the long and short of it, folks.

LFC is in a sorry, sorry state at the moment. All those involved in the off field antics care about 'No. 1' above the club. Shame to see such an amazing club in such a mess.

co. down green

31/01/2009, 10:48 PM

Chimbonda, Defoe etc

Fair point with Chimbonda.

Rule L19 states "A Club which transfers or cancels the registration of a Player may not apply to register that Player within a year except with the prior written consent of the Board."

The regulations are more concerned with preventing the loan system being abused and if the Prem. League and the clubs are happy enough then i suppose Robbie can get away from the lunatic Benitez.

As long as Robbie is happy, i'm happy & hopefully a couple against Georgia will help bed him into his new club...if it happens...if its allowed.

Crosby87

31/01/2009, 11:54 PM

I believe Rafa will quit within a month..

Looks like Rafa is signing a big contract to stay? got it from mirror.co.uk?
EDIT: oh sorry probably not news to you all.
man im behind the times here. but, if you need a super bowl pic, im the one to talk to hehe.

third policeman

01/02/2009, 9:51 AM

It's Raffa that we should be getting rid off, not Robbie. The man has lost the plot and to give him a new contract at this stage is insanity. Over the next three weeks we could easily be out of the FA Cup, Champions League and out of the title race as well. Torres is still lacking form and fitness, God knows what will happen to Gerrard vis-a-vis his Court case, Kuyt is completely useless, yet Raffa is getting rid of a proven quality striker to make a point. Thank God he didn't get his way over selling Alonso. his transfer and selection policy is incomprehensible. (Dossena!!, Lucas!!!!!!, Degen!!!!!!!!!!!!!) End this madness now!