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ken foree
05/08/2008, 12:50 PM
The times when Keane has been at his worst is when his position in the team is under no threat. When Defoe left this year so did Keane's top game because he was under no pressure.

yea and unfortunately he's under absolutely no threat at all from any other irish forwards at present.

tetsujin1979
24/08/2008, 12:37 PM
Had an assist as well. Just needs a goal now.

DmanDmythDledge
01/09/2008, 3:04 PM
Lee Dixon's tactical view (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7591343.stm)
Why Liverpool are wasting Robbie Keane's talents

Stuttgart88
01/09/2008, 3:09 PM
There was much talk on SKY after the Villa game on how pointless it is playing Robbie either out left or upfront alone. Hoddle pointed out that he went 20 minutes without even touching the ball.

That said, he wasn't very assertive with the one chance he did get.

NeilMcD
01/09/2008, 3:09 PM
Dixon is one of the best pundits.

Stuttgart88
01/09/2008, 3:16 PM
In a odd way, Keane struggling at the moment may be a good thing in that he'll be more enthusiastic about the forthcoming Ireland trip. I don't think Keane was one of those who looked at Ireland trips as a chore but I frequently got the impression that for some, including Keane, underperforming for Ireland was dampened by going back to their clubs where they were performing well and pampered by press and fans.

geysir
01/09/2008, 4:21 PM
I think you are looking for signs, Stutts.

paul_oshea
01/09/2008, 5:06 PM
I would say hoping.

smasher
03/09/2008, 8:21 AM
I wouldn't pay too much for that one!

How come the lyrically devoid Ireland fans cannot come up with something as inventive as the Scousers? Robbie's played in the green shirt for years, he's with the Reds for a week and already we have a chant that's imprinted on the brain. Priceless!
Walk On!

irishultra
08/09/2008, 1:21 PM
Just reading the Daily Mail there and I came across an article titled 'IS IT TIME TO DROP ROBBIE?'

It leads ' one half of the irish strikeforce was a 25 million striker who played like a spoilt child, the other cost 150,000.......(says Doyle played well'

How the hell can you accuse Keane of not giving it his all?

That is real boring journalism taken from the leaf of huge nations like Spain(Raul), Italy(Del Piero) and England(Owen) who have an array of options to pick from in the first place.

Ireland can't and never should drop Keane, unless he's doing absolutely nothing, but....it was his running that helped indirectly get our second goal and his pass to McGeady for the first goal.

That really got to me.

boovidge
08/09/2008, 1:23 PM
I thought Keane played well. If his attempt had crept in what would this "journo" be saying then?

He's just trying to make some sort of radical point i think. Attention seeking in writing.

John83
08/09/2008, 1:24 PM
Just reading the Daily Mail there...
Now, there's your problem.

seanfhear
08/09/2008, 1:32 PM
It will be interesting to see if robbie can form as good a partnership with Doyle at international level or Torres at club level as he did with Berbatov at Spurs.
If he can then the 20 million that Benitez paid for him will look like a good deal.

Duggie
08/09/2008, 1:34 PM
drop robbie....my arse.

cartman
08/09/2008, 1:43 PM
he's a poor player..doesn't show much interest and puts in very little effort for the team.. he is very droppable for the republic of ireland..

Pike B
08/09/2008, 1:45 PM
he's a poor player..doesn't show much interest and puts in very little effort for the team.. he is very droppable for the republic of ireland..
Agree 100% with this bit, he does work hard though..
And I support Liverpool.

boovidge
08/09/2008, 1:45 PM
Yeah we should get in that proven top flight goalscorer shane long instead.

Keane's got 2 in 3 for Ireland but whatever. He's rubbish.

Duggie
08/09/2008, 1:45 PM
he's a poor player..doesn't show much interest and puts in very little effort for the team.. he is very droppable for the republic of ireland..

oh please - i knew this thread would **** me off
34 goals for ireland = we would be fcked without him.
end of story. should never be dropped.

irishultra
08/09/2008, 1:56 PM
LOL at poor player.

youngirish
08/09/2008, 2:02 PM
There could be talk of dropping him if we ever have another viable alternative up front but if anyone is seriously considering dropping him for the likes of Andy Keogh then they really need to check themselves into the nearest hospital before they do harm to themselves or someone else.

newbie
08/09/2008, 2:03 PM
he's a poor player..doesn't show much interest and puts in very little effort for the team.. he is very droppable for the republic of ireland..

this has to be a wind up or someone fishing for a reaction???

DeNiro
08/09/2008, 2:08 PM
he's a poor player..doesn't show much interest and puts in very little effort for the team.. he is very droppable for the republic of ireland..

How exactly do you measure that he doesn't show much interest? If that's the case he wouldn't turn up surely? Very droppable. To me John O'Shea is very droppable, but he's not captain, he doesn't play regularly for Man Utd and is inconsistent. Keane is quite the opposite. If he put in 'very little effort' there's no way he would have 34 goals. It's international football remember.

Billsthoughts
08/09/2008, 2:13 PM
I certainly wouldnt drop him off the back of one of his better Ireland performances in recent years.

Hibs4Ever
08/09/2008, 2:45 PM
he's a poor player...


Complete and utter nonsense. You obviously don't have a clue about football if you think that

lionelhutz
08/09/2008, 2:52 PM
he's a poor player..doesn't show much interest and puts in very little effort for the team.. he is very droppable for the republic of ireland..

Think he's just trying to wind ye up lads...

as_i_say
08/09/2008, 2:52 PM
the only thing that annoys me about him is the whinging for frees/penalties-he would probably get more of them if he didnt go on like that. He seems to do it more for his country than club.

Being uber-critical he should have scored that chance when he rounded the keeper, I don't think it was a very difficult chance. Anyone who saw the Spanish goal against the Bosnians at the weekend-now THAT was a tight angle!

Drop Robbie-no way

Duggie
08/09/2008, 2:56 PM
the only thing that annoys me about him is the whinging for frees/penalties-he would probably get more of them if he didnt go on like that. He seems to do it more for his country than club.

Being uber-critical he should have scored that chance when he rounded the keeper, I don't think it was a very difficult chance. Anyone who saw the Spanish goal against the Bosnians at the weekend-now THAT was a tight angle!

Drop Robbie-no way

the width of a post - just took it a wee bit to wide. he will make up for it along the qualifiers.

as_i_say
08/09/2008, 3:10 PM
spanish goal here. I dunno the more i think about it-i was raging he missed it. Actually think keeper did well to stay on his feet for as long as he did and that probably put him off

http://www.mightyfootball.com/category/latest-football-highlights/page/2/

amaccann
08/09/2008, 3:16 PM
I am not the world's greatest fan of Robbie & there was a period when dropping him might have shaken him into reality. But I get the sense that since Trap came along he has pulled up his boots considerably & taken on the role of captain more seriously. So I say give the lad another chance.

Duggie
08/09/2008, 3:18 PM
are u people on another planet or something ? i cant believe what im reading from some on here. bloody hell.

Claret Murph
08/09/2008, 3:34 PM
Robbie is a top player for us and as Duggie said
All time leading scorer for Ireland , end of story .

Hey Galway and Sligo and we agree on something , that can't be too bad ......

Duggie
08/09/2008, 3:39 PM
Robbie is a top player for us and as Duggie said
All time leading scorer for Ireland , end of story .

Hey Galway and Sligo and we agree on something , that can't be too bad ......

well said that man......:eek:

OwlsFan
08/09/2008, 4:27 PM
Any chance we could park this with the Robbie Keane thread:

http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=43943&page=85&highlight=Keane+thread

finnpark
08/09/2008, 4:35 PM
Just reading the Daily Mail there and I came across an article titled 'IS IT TIME TO DROP ROBBIE?'

It leads ' one half of the irish strikeforce was a 25 million striker who played like a spoilt child, the other cost 150,000.......(says Doyle played well'

How the hell can you accuse Keane of not giving it his all?

That is real boring journalism taken from the leaf of huge nations like Spain(Raul), Italy(Del Piero) and England(Owen) who have an array of options to pick from in the first place.

Ireland can't and never should drop Keane, unless he's doing absolutely nothing, but....it was his running that helped indirectly get our second goal and his pass to McGeady for the first goal.

That really got to me.

Well if you seen my betting system you already know that Robbie is an over hyped and over rated player.

http://foot.ie/showthread.php?p=1016814

Hes bound to score anytime, isn't he :eek:. Hopefully this Wednesday ;) Montenegro have conceded 9 in 3 games so if he doesn't score the next day he may quit. He missed an open goal against Georgia.

old git
08/09/2008, 4:48 PM
Just reading the Daily Mail there and I came across an article titled 'IS IT TIME TO DROP ROBBIE?'

It leads ' one half of the irish strikeforce was a 25 million striker who played like a spoilt child, the other cost 150,000.......(says Doyle played well'

How the hell can you accuse Keane of not giving it his all?

That is real boring journalism taken from the leaf of huge nations like Spain(Raul), Italy(Del Piero) and England(Owen) who have an array of options to pick from in the first place.

Ireland can't and never should drop Keane, unless he's doing absolutely nothing, but....it was his running that helped indirectly get our second goal and his pass to McGeady for the first goal.

That really got to me.

it's a newspaper article for fluck sake get over it :eek: .. must add though it's about time robbie pulled the finger out for ireland in the last few games .. he is not performing like a 25 millon euro player for ireland for a while now

SkStu
08/09/2008, 4:56 PM
to be fair, its not Robbies fault that 2 epl clubs valued him at 20odd million.

look, hes not perfect, no player is but people should be able to realise and appreciate how lucky we ar to have a player with his ability. He has done great things for us before and i believe he will again.

I could never understand the anti-Robbie sentiment... what does it really stem from - the arm waving??

irishfan86
08/09/2008, 5:46 PM
I could never understand the anti-Robbie sentiment... what does it really stem from - the arm waving??

Things haven't gone well for us in the past few campaigns, and he hasn't been scoring many in competitive matches, especially against the top teams.

People who know the game know that our failures in recent years are more down to the lack of a cohesive midfield, but for the casual fan or the "journalist," Ireland's star player and captain is the easy target when things aren't going well.

I'm still not positive the Keane-Doyle combo will get the best out of Robbie, and I don't think we'll see his best with Ireland unless he's paired with a target man, or at least has a player with Andy Reid's guile on the field to link up with.

mypost
08/09/2008, 5:54 PM
Drop Robbie Keane?? :confused:

So who scored against Colombia?? Or Norway?? Or Wales?? Or Denmark?? :rolleyes:

Whoever asks to drop him should be sacked for bringing journalism into disrepute. :D

finnpark
08/09/2008, 6:05 PM
Drop Robbie Keane?? :confused:

So who scored against Colombia?? Or Norway?? Or Wales?? Or Denmark?? :rolleyes:

Whoever asks to drop him should be sacked for bringing journalism into disrepute. :D

3 of those matches were meaningless friendlies where teams don't try. The other was against Wales in another meaningless match. Enough said!!

Darly Murphy for Ireland.

It doesn't really matter in the Trap system as Ireland will only create 2-3 chances per game average. Ireland wont score much but won't concede much either. Montengro conceded 9 goals in their last 3 matches which makes this a very interesting match indeed.

mypost
08/09/2008, 6:17 PM
Part of the article states


one half of the irish strikeforce played like a spoilt child

We were battered against Colombia, and had to absorb heavy pressure against Norway, while the Wales game cemented 3rd place. In each of them, Rob dug us out of a hole. He's not Ronaldo, but he's our record goalscorer, and is as important to the team as Shay Given.

Supreme feet
08/09/2008, 6:38 PM
34 goals for Ireland... says it all, when you consider that Niall is the next highest with 21 - and legends like Stapleton and Aldridge not far below, despite playing with more gifted Irish sides than that of today (though Aldridge was, admittedly, 26 when he declared for us). How Charlton would have loved a striker with Keane's all-round ability. He was double-marked on Saturday, and struggled against Kaladze's physicality (and cynicism), so didn't have the best of games, but the likes of Murphy, Keogh and Long will have to improve beyond belief to really challenge Keane's position. Given the inexperience of Montenegro's back-line, (as opposed to Kaladze and Khizinashvili), I'd back Keane to score on Wednesday. I was right with my Georgia prediction, after all! :)

Razors left peg
08/09/2008, 7:42 PM
slightly off topic... but still involves gutter journalism... Cahal Dervan in todays Star.Said some thing along the lines that if he was Andy Reid he would be on the first plane home from Frankfurt after not getting a game. Now setting aside whether Andy should be in there team or not(enough Threads on that already) but this is the same Cahal Dervan who as Mick McCarthys best mate in the media has slaughtered Roy Keane at every possible occasion since Saipan(doesnt matter if Keane was right or wrong)... my point is that could Dervan be anymore of a hypocrite.I was disgusted with myself for even finishing the article

Oh....and as for Pat Dolan telling Trap to stop picking on Brian Kerr and pick on someone his own size in the same paper... how this man gets paid to talk about football is beyond my comprehension

Paddy Garcia
08/09/2008, 7:46 PM
Darly Murphy for Ireland.



You could not make it up.

Razors left peg
08/09/2008, 7:52 PM
You could not make it up.

Hes been looking for reactions to that one for a long time now... best ignored I think

old git
08/09/2008, 8:08 PM
I thought Keane was quietly brilliant on saturday. Just because he wasn't on the ball much doesn't mean he didn't play well. He made space for McGeady's assist and hit the post. What more do you want?


He made space for McGeady's assist and hit the post. What more do you want?[/

hit the post .. put it in the net thats what we want :ball:

seanfhear
08/09/2008, 8:20 PM
slightly off topic... but still involves gutter journalism... Cahal Dervan in todays Star.Said some thing along the lines that if he was Andy Reid he would be on the first plane home from Frankfurt after not getting a game. Now setting aside whether Andy should be in there team or not(enough Threads on that already) but this is the same Cahal Dervan who as Mick McCarthys best mate in the media has slaughtered Roy Keane at every possible occasion since Saipan(doesnt matter if Keane was right or wrong)... my point is that could Dervan be anymore of a hypocrite.I was disgusted with myself for even finishing the article

Oh....and as for Pat Dolan telling Trap to stop picking on Brian Kerr and pick on someone his own size in the same paper... how this man gets paid to talk about football is beyond my comprehension
hear hear!

FarBeag
08/09/2008, 10:08 PM
I have heard it all now. Robbie Keane is one of the best players we have. Give him the ball and he will score, just like any good forward does. Don’t give it to him and he will go looking for it leaving him with a much less chance of scoring. This is why Andy Reid should be playing. He is the one who will feed Keane.


I often wonder why people who quite obviously no nothing about football post on a football forum. I wouldn’t post on a tennis forum for e.g. for that very reason.

DRDoc
09/09/2008, 12:30 AM
Surely if someone comes along and starts a thread about an article they should at the very least say who wrote it???

EastTerracer
09/09/2008, 2:13 AM
Next to Shay Given, Robbie is our most important player. Several people on this forum have slated him for not trying hard enough but the truth is that during the last 6 years Robbie has been guilty of trying too hard. The service he gets has been patchy at best during that period and Robbie has always gone looking for the ball (chasing back to midfield and beyond at times).

Anyone who watches him playing for Tottenham over the last few years knows how good a player he can be when he gets decent service. His goal record for Ireland proves his quality as well (even if he does get more goals against so-called weaker teams - what striker doesn't?). His goals against Iran (in the playoff game) and against Germany in Ibaraki are amongst the most important goals we've ever scored. As for the nerve when he took the last-minute penalty against Spain - I wouldn't have trusted any other Irish player to score in that situation.

Someone told me that Philip Quinn wrote the article but its just another in a long list of anti-Robbie articles in the rag press.

HarpoJoyce
09/09/2008, 12:06 PM
More bad news for Robbie, He has some property stolen including jewellery, (I think maybe some money aswell).
Source; FM104 Radio News.