Robbie Keane [Archive] - Page 142

OwlsFan

29/08/2016, 3:59 PM

That type of stuff coupled with the arms in the air (which he did more in his early career) meant Robbie would never be as liked as the more humble likes of Brian O'Driscoll or Damien Duff.

https://youtu.be/0m5PZcBoyXg
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Not quite a fair comparison. It was easy for Duffer to be humble as he only scored 6. He also fell down a lot more than Robbie so he wasn't without fault. As for "Dricko", it wasn't fashionable for rugby players to celebrate or have arms in the air so it's not comparing like with like.

The hands in the air thing with Robbie was slightly irritating but to put that down as a reason why he wasn't as loved as he should have been by both media and an element among the fans isn't a valid reason. The lack of respect from some elements can be divided between a) his working class roots (the humorous Gift Grub sketches portray him as a criminal because he has a Dublin accent) unlike the poster middle class boy Dricko, b) his many transfers (which earned him a lot of money much resented in the usual Irish way and c) the perceived fact that his goals were often scored against weaker nations and d) his "dream" to play for Liverpool and Celtic (scoffed at but the dream of many Irish kids unless you follow Raith Rovers and Sheffield Wednesday).

Of course all those things are irrelevant and ignore his total dedication to the Irish cause, the goals scored against top sides (it wouldn't matter to me even if he scored only against weaker sides because someone needed to do that), the 100+ Premier League goals and his record number of goals for us. He is/was our Gerd Muller in terms of his clinical finishing and in Ireland we are unlikely to see his like again before the earth compusts.

Thanks for the memories Robbie. That one in particular against Germany shall never be forgotten.

Charlie Darwin

29/08/2016, 4:19 PM

I met Noel Hunt a couple of years ago and he said 'I knew I scored that goal'. I didn't mention the video evidence.
But he basically was saying Robbie was the golden boy and it wasn't easy to go up against him. That said, he wasn't really giving out about Keane and spoke highly of him too.
I understand what Stephen is saying about Robbie when he scores. I remember him trying to claim Jon Walters' goal against Faroe Islands when he clearly never got a touch. That type of stuff coupled with the arms in the air (which he did more in his early career) meant Robbie would never be as liked as the more humble likes of Brian O'Driscoll or Damien Duff.

https://youtu.be/0m5PZcBoyXg
Humble is never a word I'd associate with Brian O'Driscoll.

TheOneWhoKnocks

29/08/2016, 4:52 PM

Goals count against all teams. (consistent) goals against first and second teams are often the difference between qualifying and not qualifying though. Then again, come Moldova or Georgia we might long for the days Keane got us out of a jam against such tricky teams. But in fairness, McGeady, Long, Fahey, Brady and Walters have all chipped in with vital goals in recent campaigns.

O'Driscoll is very likeable. He's the kind of guy you would like to hang around with. And this is coming from someone who just assumed he was a [bad word].

Fixer82

29/08/2016, 5:14 PM

I don't buy the working class thing with Robbie. Honestly, most hardcore soccer fans are working class so i really don't think that's part of it.
Irish people naturally don't like show offs. Robbie was a show off. That's why he scored so many goals and played the way he did.
Duffer did amazing things with the ball but off the pitch was shy and retiring. Irish people prefer a Duffer to a Keano. I'm not saying this is necessarily right but I think it's the truth.

Fixer82

29/08/2016, 5:16 PM

By the way, I know I mentioned it in the goals thread but that strike V Holland in a friendly was a sensational goal.

BonnieShels

29/08/2016, 7:15 PM

On OTB right now!

bennocelt

29/08/2016, 10:41 PM

Charlie Darwin

29/08/2016, 11:36 PM

OwlsFan

30/08/2016, 9:16 AM

Only owlsfan brings that up.......never seen anyone else go on about it. Silly stuff.
I am not fan of keano, as he is a bit dim, but what footballer isnt i guess.

Why is he portrayed on Gift Grub as a criminal if it was irrelevant ? Why not portray O'Driscoll as a criminal?

DeLorean

30/08/2016, 9:24 AM

I am not fan of keano, as he is a bit dim, but what footballer isnt i guess.

So you're not a fan of any footballer? :)

I don't agree that Keane is dim at all, but even if he is, surely what he produces/has produced on the pitch is all that matters.

John83

30/08/2016, 9:38 AM

Why is he portrayed on Gift Grub as a criminal if it was irrelevant ? Why not portray O'Driscoll as a criminal?
Because Gift Grub specialises in caricatures. The way you make a caricature is you take one memorable feature about someone (often a verbal tick, accent or laugh, as it's a radio show) and exaggerate it for effect. It's not some vast middle class conspiracy. But then, as a UCD fan, I would say that. :P

bennocelt

30/08/2016, 4:43 PM

So you're not a fan of any footballer? :)

I don't agree that Keane is dim at all, but even if he is, surely what he produces/has produced on the pitch is all that matters.

Correct

(Dont they always mention Pat Nevin and G Le Saux.......)

tricky_colour

31/08/2016, 12:17 AM

I always liked the unique finish @ 2:46 in to make it 3-1 to Coventry. The goal by Davor Suker to make it 3-2 is probably even better though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4fAGZLjVDU

Ken Early was on Second Captains recently talking about the weird ways Keane could contort his body to finish. This goal is a great example of that.

Wow, that was an incredible goal form Keane, I was rather sceptical about your claim that Sukar's goal would be as good as even better but I have to say it probably is.

Extra ordinary to the two in the same game, both goal of the season contenders and a bit different from the type of goal we tend to get these days.

I think in the modern game Robbie would not be allowed to attempt that, he would be expected to recycle the ball.

tricky_colour

31/08/2016, 12:26 AM

I predict Robbie will save a penalty tomorrow.

KrisLetang

31/08/2016, 1:01 AM

At least he goes out with his boyhood team Oman.

OwlsFan

31/08/2016, 9:07 AM

I predict Robbie will save a penalty tomorrow.

He's starting in goal ??

pineapple stu

31/08/2016, 11:11 AM

Here's one I've not seen before - the second minute of the 2000 Italian Super Cup between Inter and Lazio. Could have been his debut; can't confirm.

https://cdn.streamable.com/video/mp4-mobile/nwx3.mp4

DeLorean

31/08/2016, 11:29 AM

I'd never seen that either, didn't realise he had scored in a 'proper' match for them. He got booked as well.

2000 Supercoppa Italia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Supercoppa_Italiana)

Edit- nevermind that, he scored two more in proper matches also.

Keane made 14 appearances for Inter in all competitions scoring three goals, his most memorable coming two minutes into the Italian Supercup against Lazio. He also scored against Ruch Chorz�win the UEFA Cup and US Lecce in the Coppa Italia

pineapple stu

31/08/2016, 11:37 AM

The goal against Chorzow is below, credited on screen to Cordoba (maybe that explains why he was so keen to claim his goal in Bari? :) )

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Can't find the goal v Lecce anywhere.

DeLorean

31/08/2016, 11:39 AM

Ha! I was the exact same.

BonnieShels

31/08/2016, 12:31 PM

Nice touch from RT� listnig all his goals in a banner:

https://img.rasset.ie/000cc7dc-614.jpg

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2016/0831/813163-67-goals-reminder-of-robbie-keanes-strikes/

paul_oshea

31/08/2016, 1:12 PM

They spelt colombia wrong :rolleyes: it really irks me how media outlets are so lazy in that they get this wrong all the time.

DeLorean

31/08/2016, 1:14 PM

50 Flags there... so that means he failed to score in 95 of his 145 caps. Pretty crap when you put it like that. :p

TheBoss

31/08/2016, 1:20 PM

Ireland did not face Latvia in a Euro Qualifier in 2013, it was a friendly and I got that from the top of my head. How hard is it to check these things before you print them!

pineapple stu

31/08/2016, 1:27 PM

We also beat Gibraltar 7-0, not 3-0.

But let's not let semantics take away from what the graph shows.

BonnieShels

31/08/2016, 1:30 PM

Ireland did not face Latvia in a Euro Qualifier in 2013, it was a friendly and I got that from the top of my head. How hard is it to check these things before you print them!

We also beat Gibraltar 7-0, not 3-0.

But let's not let semantics take away from what the graph shows.

Honestly, how they slipped through... Errortel is alive and well.

BonnieShels

31/08/2016, 1:30 PM

They spelt colombia wrong :rolleyes: it really irks me how media outlets are so lazy in that they get this wrong all the time.

They spelled Netherlands wrong also...

tricky_colour

31/08/2016, 2:32 PM

He's starting in goal ??

I think we will have used up out subs, the keeper gets sent off, Robbie is carrying
a bit of an injury and not as mobile as he would like to be and puts himself in goal.

The penalty taker hits the post and it rebounds bouncing off robbie's head and out.

BonnieShels

31/08/2016, 2:55 PM

I think we will have used up out subs, the keeper gets sent off, Robbie is carrying
a bit of an injury and not as mobile as he would like to be and puts himself in goal.

The penalty taker hits the post and it rebounds bouncing off robbie's head and out.

Only for everybody to criticise him for taking the credit for saving the ball from the Post itself.

Dunphy rounds on Keano for his despicable behaviour whilst lauding the post as the saviour of Irish football and decrying Martin O'Neill's decision not to start him.

paul_oshea

31/08/2016, 3:30 PM

They spelled Netherlands wrong also...

I also saw the latvia one and thought the same ! thats what im on about its so lazy, how could the person writing it with any knowledge of football and an uneven year put down that we played a EuroQualifier and World cup qualifer in the same year.....granted they did have to do out 50 odd flags but still.

jbyrne

31/08/2016, 3:46 PM

Honestly, how they slipped through... Errortel is alive and well.

from their transfer news today...

"Big news for Ireland fans, Jeff Hendrick has joined Burnley for a club record fee. Hendrick joins the Premier League side from Norwich and has signed a three-year contract with his new club."

tricky_colour

31/08/2016, 7:17 PM

Super goal for him.

geysir

31/08/2016, 9:18 PM

It was a poignant moment to see Robbie walk off into the sunset, this part is finally over, one of the elite of Ireland's finest footballers has ended his intl career, it's akin to a death in the family. And true to form he leaves us with a memory of a brilliantly taken goal.
From his first emergence in the european final winning u18 team he's been at the fulcrum of the intl team and even when his football career comes an end soon, his life afterwards will still see a vibrant Robbie at the helm at whatever he'll be involved with. Robbie is the epitome of a success deservedly earned and borne with a natural grace.

TheOneWhoKnocks

31/08/2016, 9:43 PM

Good article about his ill-fated spell at Inter.

http://www.the42.ie/robbie-keane-inter-milan-2957064-Aug2016/

BonnieShels

31/08/2016, 10:15 PM

The juxtaposition of geysir's post and whatever negativity that TOWK put up is a fine reflection on what the man ended up doing to the nation.

But I'm not going to idly try and justify anything.

Robbie, you were the greatest. Sure we had Johnny and Liam and Roy and Damien but the rest of us were lucky to have you.

You were there to score the crucial goal. You stood up to comfort us when it all went to ****e. Be it Saipan or Paris.

You were there in Paris, you were there in Ibaraki; you were there during the tears and the joy...

And yet you were there for every ****ing second of the last 18 years and it was a pleasure. An unmitigated pleasure. We'll never see your like.

And I'm glad of that. No one will ever be fit to lace those boots... and I'm okay with that. To be sad once is all that we ask as a fan.

To be blessed 68 times is beyond what we deserve.

Enjoy LA. Enjoy Fettercairn. Enjoy it all because you deserve it.

And when you're manager... See you then.

pineapple stu

31/08/2016, 10:45 PM

Another couple of Keane goals I'd not seen before - his brace on his senior debut for Wolves.

The second goal is stunning for a 17-year-old on his debut. And the first isn't bad either.

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geysir

31/08/2016, 10:53 PM

It was all downhill from there.

Did the commentator say he was like a bar of soap?
His shirt was about 5 sizes too big for him.

BonnieShels

31/08/2016, 11:26 PM

Another couple of Keane goals I'd not seen before - his brace on his senior debut for Wolves.

The second goal is stunning for a 17-year-old on his debut. And the first isn't bad either.

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That drag back. Mercy. Forgot about them.

Closed Account

01/09/2016, 7:34 AM

Cheers Robbie. A proper footballer. A more professional player has never worn an Irish soccer jersey.

Closed Account

01/09/2016, 7:35 AM

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jbyrne

01/09/2016, 7:37 AM

pineapple stu

01/09/2016, 8:40 AM

Don't think that was one of his finest goals in fairness - Duff's drag-back put it on a plate for him.

One of his biggest, for sure - only during the week I read again that it had us on course for the World Cup until cheating Henry cheated, even though it didn't - but he scored many better. Even last night's was arguably better. And the one in Amsterdam in the 2004 friendly was much better. Then there was the goal v Yugoslavia - lovely first-time finish - and the volley v Iran, which was a more technical finish.

Other reminiscences welcome!

BonnieShels

01/09/2016, 8:42 AM

As a move and a goal it was one of the best I've ever seen us score. Wonderful move.

I still think Germany 2002 for technique was out of this world. Getting his leg around that was astounding.

paul_oshea

01/09/2016, 8:58 AM

No mater who we played if Robbie was in the team you always felt we had a chance. Paris 09 was case in point... nobody gave us a chance after the home leg defeat but Robbie backed up his stated belief that we could overturn France in the away leg by scoring one of his finest goals in an Irish shirt. we will badly miss him

We beat Oman easily last night, but no one really had any clear cut chances. Robbie created that goal completely by himself, even if the build up play was good. I know the through ball for walters he had to turn the keeper but against better opposition that was easily defended, robbies less so, it was just pure robbie creating a chance out of nothing.

I really feel he could still offer something with the right approach, and we will miss him dearly this campaign, and I put the blame at MONs feet for that.

I got slack on here for interpreting robbies comments a few years ago about walking away when he wasn't wanted, i am not suggesting he is sulking in any way, but I do feel he has done what he said.

DeLorean

01/09/2016, 9:00 AM

I think you're doing the France goal a bit of a disservice PS. It was actually Keane's movement (or lack of in this case) that made it a straightforward drag back for Duff, rather than the other way around I think. He made it look easy but there was an awful lot to admire in the way he hung back to buy himself a couple of yards as the defenders were rushing towards their own goal. He had the composure to open his body up and slot it instead of snatching at it like many others would have also.

It was fairly congested in front of him but he really directed it perfectly to only place it could go in. I always though it was a really classy finish and obviously the significance of the game and standard of the opposition is always going to add some weight to a goal. He's definitely scored more spectacular goals but in terms of pure quality it would be high on my list. As Bonnie says, it was very well worked from a team perspective as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Akd7YlDLpo

pineapple stu

01/09/2016, 9:04 AM

It's a good finish, but I don't think it's his finest goal for us.

Funny, was trying to think of some more spectacular goals he scored for us - even along the lines of the two on his Wolves debut there - and couldn't really. Has he always been a pure poacher for us?

DeLorean

01/09/2016, 9:06 AM

I got slack on here for interpreting robbies comments a few years ago about walking away when he wasn't wanted, i am not suggesting he is sulking in any way, but I do feel he has done what he said.

It was always going to end that way really once his impact reduced, and it has reduced significantly over the past few years. Being dropped for the game in Glasgow really was the start of the end but that was in 2014, walking away nearly two years later does not make you right I'm afraid! It's idle speculation anyway, O'Neill might have asked him to stay on for all we know, I doubt it though.

pineapple stu

01/09/2016, 9:08 AM

Worth noting last night's goal was his first of 2016 - which means he scored in every one of his 19 years as an international.

DeLorean

01/09/2016, 9:12 AM

It's a good finish, but I don't think it's his finest goal for us.

I was going by the guidelines of 'one of his finest', rather than 'finest'. I do think it's one of his finest all things considered.

Yeah, good point about the goal poaching, because he's got some real crackers at club level for Tottenham as well, remember this? (https://youtu.be/FxJ_mI7O1-I?t=3m35s)

This has to be his best goal overall though in terms of technical difficulty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSm5oubwP1g