Everton and Liverpool discussion [Archive] - Page 28

TheJamaicanP.M.

07/05/2006, 11:15 AM

You know, the more I read your postings, the more I'm convinced that you, JPM and $Leon$ are the same person. Don't ask me why, but that's the way it seems...

:ball: PP

I've just logged on at the same time as Dillo just to prove PP is wrong. Nice conspiracy theory but don't know how you work that one out. I'm sure if you checked our IP addresses right now, you would see the error of your ways.

However, if your contention is based on the belief that we are three spiritual beings in the one body, then I'm happy to accept such an analogy.:D

jockser

07/05/2006, 1:18 PM

Get over it. A miracle is all it was.:D i LOVE it!!!! ram it down your throat :D :D

$Leon$

07/05/2006, 9:36 PM

You know, the more I read your postings, the more I'm convinced that you, JPM and $Leon$ are the same person. Don't ask me why, but that's the way it seems...

:ball: PP

I can assure you we're definitely 3 seperate people. Can't see where your getting this wild accusation from? :confused: Next time your in Dublin we'll have to arrange a meeting to clear this up.

anto1208

10/05/2006, 12:32 PM

CUP FINAL TICKETS FOR SALE

around 1,600 tickets for this years cup final up for grabs :D

jockser

10/05/2006, 12:46 PM

CUP FINAL TICKETS FOR SALE

around 1,600 tickets for this years cup final up for grabs :DGimme 4 will ya!

anto1208

15/05/2006, 1:58 PM

moyes is getting players in and hopefully settled early this year , with howard signed for next year , spencer for the youth team and imminent bids for lescott and probibly johnson on the cards . plus the injury list that had 14 players from a 22 man squad on it over the season its no wonder we dropped 11 points on last year .

4tothefloor

16/05/2006, 6:43 PM

I asked for improvements in results. They came. Job done.

As for you, you're just trolling. :mad:

No, he's justy pointing out how absolutely clueless you are when it comes to reading football :D Every fan goes through some period of doubt with a new manager, but you're just something else. You were blind to the subtle improvements Benitez was making and even worse still, you couldn't admit it when you were wrong.

Taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaxi for mypost! :p

mypost

16/05/2006, 7:31 PM

No, he's just pointing out

What?? I fully stand by what I said.

I quote Bill Shankly's phrase regarding the title: "This is our bread and butter, and this is the one, that we want".

We finished third this year, and if we had a prolific striker available this season, the gap at the top may have ended up much less than 9 points. Until such time as we are league champions, I will constantly highlight weaknesses, and demand improvement from the players, and the club.

jockser

18/05/2006, 10:20 AM

Ah yes.....great to see the greatest team in England pick up another trophy. Thats another 3 trophies in the space of a year. Liverpool truely are the greatest team in England......dont you agree ?!?! :)

anto1208

19/05/2006, 2:37 PM

everton lead the chase for andy johnson !

they look set to break the transfer record wit a �7 mill bid , doesnt excite me at all , i know he will probibly get 15 to 20 goals and form a good partnership with his mate beattie who in turn should get about 15 goals aswell ,it still does nothing for me .

it also look s like its going to be hard to hold onto yobo if arsenal come looking at least cambell has started to play well again might hold off a bid for another year at least .but he needs to sign that contract only 1 year left .

4tothefloor

20/05/2006, 5:32 PM

......the gap at the top may have ended up much less than 9 points.
No it wouldn't have as 9 points is actually misleading because Chelsea lost two games after winning the league, something which wouldn't have happened had they needed the points and fielded full strength teams. So it's more like 15 points behind.

A prolific striker would have made a difference, but we also have problems in the wide positions, especially wide right. We MUST sign a player in this position this season, otherwise forget about the title. Gerrard is wasted playing out there, and Cisse is not the answer either. I'd like to see us sign a striker (or 2), wide right midfielder, left back (for cover) and a creative link-player. That should do the trick on top of Gonzalez.

My realistic choices:
Striker 1 - Dirk Kuyt / Dean Ashton
Striker 2 - Jermaine Defoe / Darren Bent
Right Winger - Shaun Wright-Phillips / Jaoquin
Link Player - Ludovic Guily / Yossi Benayoun
Left Back - Fabio Aurelio / Frank Queudrue

Out The Door:
Fernando Morientes - His legs are gone, not up to it.
Jerzey Dudek - A waste of money having him on the bench.
Djimi Traore - Not needed with Agger & Warnock better players, Paletta on way (sic).
Djibril Cisse - Is improving all the time, but too much work needed. Cash in while we can.
Anthony Le Tallec - Has probably moaned his way out of Anfield anyway.
Salif Diao - I'm angry just typing his name....
Is Bruno Cheyrou still our player? If so, sell him to Everton.

Roadend

22/05/2006, 9:12 AM

My realistic choices:
Striker 1 - Dirk Kuyt / Dean Ashton
Striker 2 - Jermaine Defoe / Darren Bent
Right Winger - Shaun Wright-Phillips / Jaoquin
Link Player - Ludovic Guily / Yossi Benayoun
Left Back - Fabio Aurelio / Frank Queudrue

Aurelio is apparently in the bag, Pennant is being seriously considered and a bid has been put in for Daniel Alves. Word is they want Bent up front.

anto1208

24/05/2006, 12:26 PM

8.5mill for Andy Johnson **** off :mad:

ciaran76

25/05/2006, 3:37 PM

Did you really think he would be joining Everton ? Everton haven't the money:(

I reckon Dickov will be a more realistic target !

aidz1

25/05/2006, 4:13 PM

ole ole, ole ole ....25th of may

happy istanbul day....:D
the efes and kebabs are on me!!!

anto1208

25/05/2006, 4:15 PM

Did you really think he would be joining Everton ? Everton haven't the money:(

I reckon Dickov will be a more realistic target !

Well if they up the bid he'll go to Everton im in no doubt about that , but its a big if i think he is worth the 8.5 mill but not if its all our summer transfer budget .

But i think they have more , They may need to borrow on the back of this new tv money .

Id be happy with Johnson and Huth or Lescott along with keeping Yobo and artetta .

De Silva is finished his loan and will be joining in July , Howard as keeper , Vaughan ,VDM and carsley back from season long injuries . Neville & nuno settled .

Flog kilbane and Davies and ill be happy .

jockser

25/05/2006, 6:55 PM

Adios Nando and good luck with the future!

Liverpool have this evening confirmed that striker Fernando Morientes has joined Valencia for an undisclosed fee.
The Spanish striker didn't manage to live up to his reputation during his sixteen months on Merseyside and managed just 12 goals in 61 games for the Reds.

He was left out of the Spanish squad for this summer's World Cup after failing to play a major role in the Liverpool first team last season.

Everybody at Liverpool FC would like to wish Nando all the best with his new club in Spain.

ciaran76

26/05/2006, 10:49 AM

De Silva is finished his loan and will be joining in July , Howard as keeper , Vaughan ,VDM and carsley back from season long injuries . Neville & nuno settled .

Flog kilbane and Davies and ill be happy .

You are very optimistic Anto. Wish I was like you in that way !

VDM I can't see staying with Everton to be honest. Vaughan well we have to wait see how is knee turns out so wouldn't look too deep into him at the moment.
De Silva well we have to wait see about him.

anto1208

26/05/2006, 10:53 AM

You are very optimistic Anto. Wish I was like you in that way !

VDM I can't see staying with Everton to be honest. Vaughan well we have to wait see how is knee turns out so wouldn't look too deep into him at the moment.
De Silva well we have to wait see about him.

Im not worried about Vaughan or De Silva ive seen both them play and both are well able for it as long as his injury doesnt hamper him and de silva settles , merseyside is a lot different from brazil :D .

i dont think VDM will move there was talks about him beinn sold for 1 mill but considering he was one of our best players last year even after only playing about 7 or 8 games we need talent like that . Fingers crossed on that one anyway but he is allways on the **** which doesnt help when your injury prone or when you take ****head beattie out with you .

anto1208

29/05/2006, 3:59 PM

AJ to in the bag for 8.5 and now moyes is moving to land Huth who is unhappy at chelsea .

all credit to moyes he has learnt his lesson from dittering last year and not having players in and settled , he knows who he wants this time and is getting them in before the team heads to the USA .

Everton to hijack Wigan Huth move

Huth has struggled for first-team football at Chelsea
Everton are set to beat Wigan to the signing of Chelsea defender Robert Huth, BBC Sport understands.
The Toffees - who are also going to pip the Latics to the signing of Crystal Palace striker Andy Johnson - will have a �5.5m bid accepted by Chelsea.

And the Goodison Park club are confident Huth will choose them ahead of Wigan, just as Johnson has.

Centre-back Huth, 21, is currently with the German national team in Geneva preparing for the World Cup.

He has said previously that he will have showdown talks with boss Jose Mourinho about his lack of first-team action.

"I've not heard about Wigan's interest. All I know is that I am not happy at the moment. After the World Cup I will speak to Jose Mourinho," he said.

He added: "Even a transfer to the Bundesliga is a possibility. It's all open. Nothing has been decided yet."

However, it is understood Everton are now in pole position to land the player.

JoeSemi

29/05/2006, 10:26 PM

8.5mill for Andy Johnson **** off :mad:

How much of your big fat budget has that eaten into I wonder?:rolleyes:

Rafa looks to be weighing up his options before delving into the market for a striker and its probably the best policy with the WC on the way. Hopefully Cisse can keep his mouth shut for a while and concentrate on performing in the cameo roles he'll (just about) get for France, and earn the club a few quid from his sale.

4tothefloor has provided a good summary on potential signings but one forward option that can't be ruled out is Bellamy. No Blackburn official has denied this 6million clause that he can be sold if a CL club makes an offer of that amount. We all know his reputation goes before him, but if he's as good as what he claims to be he'll be on an equal footing at Liverpool with a class of players he won't have played with before.

Kuyt is another who is being pursued strongly and there's a good chance he could find his way to Anfield next season regardless of his WC form. Be nice to see him have a stinker and keep his price at a reasonable level!

A new dawn will emerge at Liverpool if Rafa can pull off the masterstroke of signing two Brazilian full-backs. Daniel Alves is 50/50 and Aurelio looks in the bag. It could give the Reds a dimension they've never had before in an attacking sense, and could draw comparisons to Barca's full-back policy of using Belletti/Sylvinho for lesser league games and Oleguer/Gio for more cagey CL affairs.

Wide right is the big conundrum. Daniel Alves could double up there, and with Rafa liking versatile players he may not want to dip in for an orthodox winger. The options are limited and would Kopites want someone of Pennants ilk at the club? SWP would be the ideal but no deal would ever be struck between Liverpool and Chelsea in the current climate of things. I still think someone will crop up from Spain that we are unaware of as yet. We'll take Joaquin either if there's nothing else!

anto1208

30/05/2006, 9:24 AM

How much of your big fat budget has that eaten into I wonder?:rolleyes:

About 8.5 mill into it id guess :D

Another 5 or 6 now on a defender probibly Huth and that will be it for the summer unless a few Free's or loans can be sorted out .

Its though for teams that dont have a mega rich owner to keep trowing endless supply's of money at the team the way liverpool and chelsea have .

How far behind the Mores is Abramovich ? .......

oh hang on wait i forgot your a liverpool fan so there is different ways to view things as a liverpool fan ........ Liverpool dont play long balls like other teams they play long passes ...........and there mega bucks owner doesnt buy titles like chelsea's he invests in the club ........ right i think ive got it now :p

Roadend

30/05/2006, 10:15 AM

About 8.5 mill into it id guess :D
Its though for teams that dont have a mega rich owner to keep trowing endless supply's of money at the team the way liverpool and chelsea have .

How far behind the Mores is Abramovich ? .......

You'd want to check your information before spouting rubbish like this. Moores has a personal fortune which is a small fraction of what the Russian has. He has dipped his hand into that pocket less than a handful of times when it came to player purchases.

drinkfeckarse

30/05/2006, 1:29 PM

You'd want to check your information before spouting

......he doesn't do that a lot Roadend;)

anto1208

30/05/2006, 2:06 PM

Lads for god sake !! as the song goes "and if you know your history " which ye clearly dont .

still thats no surprise liverpool fans that dont know anything about there club .

What did Houlier get to spend ? 200 mill was it ? what has rafa spent ? from a club that makes a loss every year ? hhmmmmm where does the cash come from FFS

now cue the same old responce when ye dont know what else to say " your bitter " !!!!

drinkfeckarse

30/05/2006, 2:12 PM

from a club that makes a loss every year ?

hmmm I wonder why the club makes a loss.....

Roadend

30/05/2006, 2:21 PM

Or why they have been looking for investment for the last 5 years, then what would we know, unsubstantiated Everton rumours are more believable right?

anto1208

30/05/2006, 2:29 PM

hmmm I wonder why the club makes a loss.....

outgoings are larger than incomings = Loss

drinkfeckarse

30/05/2006, 2:55 PM

outgoings are larger than incomings = Loss

Very good, I even gave you time to edit it ;) Now stay with me here but do you think it's possible that the club regularly made a loss due to transfer fees paid? :rolleyes:

anto1208

31/05/2006, 10:14 AM

Very good, I even gave you time to edit it ;) Now stay with me here but do you think it's possible that the club regularly made a loss due to transfer fees paid? :rolleyes:

thats called your "profit after player trading " and this isnt included .

Everton made a profit of 1.4 mill last season if you include your after player trading as you seem to do there profit was 23.5 mill (most profitable club in the country) , but since you cant garuntee that kind of income every year it isnt included . Liverpool registered a loss outside there player trading .ie the company Liverpool FC made no money ( wages running costs etc far outweighted there income from tv rights and prize money ) yet another 30 odd mill has been stumped up by the board

anto1208

31/05/2006, 10:30 AM

The toffee's are considering a number of options some of which are outside the city bounds , the refurbisment of Goodison not really an option and with liverpool city council pushing for a stadium share with the red****e Evertons only option may be to leave the city .

Everton offered move to KirkbyMay 31 2006

EXCLUSIVE by Sam Lister Daily Post Staff

KNOWSLEY council has offered Everton FC three prime development sites on which to build a new stadium.

Executives at the local authority are involved in a sustained attempt to tempt the club out of Liverpool to the Kirkby area.

Kirkby's municipal golf course is one of the sites the club have been offered, along with nearby land next to Kirkby sports centre on Valley Road, both close to motorway access from the M57.

It is believed Knowsley would provide the land needed either free or at a much reduced rate, so keen are they to attract a prestige deal which would prove a massive boost to the area's economy and reputation.

drinkfeckarse

31/05/2006, 10:32 AM

Do the words overdraft mean anything to you....the board just club together and hand the manager millions of pounds:rolleyes: It is stumped up by the bank.

It is classed as club funds and is repayable to the clubs bank. The difference between Moores and Abramovich is that the latters' is all classed as personal loans to Chelski which is why they show as almost �200m in debt. Realistically they don't have any way of paying this back to him so ultimately Abramovich will either write this off of the club will go bust should he try to recover his outlay. This is the only way that Chelsea will realise their aim of being profitable within 5 years.

Moores runs Liverpool as a club and a business, Abramovich runs Chelsea as his latest toy.

drinkfeckarse

31/05/2006, 10:33 AM

Evertons only option may be to leave the city .

There is a God.....

anto1208

31/05/2006, 12:44 PM

Do the words overdraft mean anything to you....the board just club together and hand the manager millions of pounds:rolleyes: It is stumped up by the bank.

Right dont ever start your own business ! Barcleys Bank nearly put Everton into receivership over a �6 .7 mill overdraft but hand liverpool over �30 mill !!!!.

how does the coversation go
LFC : can we have an overdraft of 30 mill
BB: Sure as long as you can show how you ll pay it back
LFC : we will use the profits we make during the next year .
BB: ok seems fine how much profit do ye make
LFC : -2 mill
BB : surely owing us 30 mill and earning -2 mill will put you in debt of 32 mill
LFC : i cant see how
BB: well ok then that all seems fine here you go :rolleyes:

drinkfeckarse

31/05/2006, 1:02 PM

Right dont ever start your own business ! Barcleys Bank nearly put Everton into receivership over a �6 .7 mill overdraft but hand liverpool over �30 mill !!!!.

how does the coversation go
LFC : can we have an overdraft of 30 mill
BB: Sure as long as you can show how you ll pay it back
LFC : we will use the profits we make during the next year .
BB: ok seems fine how much profit do ye make
LFC : -2 mill
BB : surely owing us 30 mill and earning -2 mill will put you in debt of 32 mill
LFC : i cant see how
BB: well ok then that all seems fine here you go :rolleyes:

If only life was a simple as that...and you as it seems. Do you have inside knowledge into Liverpools banking details?

anto1208

31/05/2006, 1:23 PM

If only life was a simple as that...and you as it seems. Do you have inside knowledge into Liverpools banking details?

no one needs inside info its all available to anyone that wants it do you not read your clubs end of season reports ?, the star doesn't print it so thats probibly why you dont know :p

comes as no surprise yet another armchair liverpool fan knows nothing about how his club is run :rolleyes:

drinkfeckarse

31/05/2006, 1:29 PM

Roadend

31/05/2006, 1:44 PM

He still cannot seem to comprehend that Liverpool are actively looking for investment. I doubt financial facts will help him

drinkfeckarse

31/05/2006, 2:10 PM

I know. As I've previously mentioned Anto likes to think he's "intelligent" yet his spelling and punctuation defy his probable age.

anto1208

31/05/2006, 2:22 PM

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/club/R&A2005.pdf

Annual review of last year. Note " net debt remains at a controllable level of �17.1m despite the ongoing level of change resulting from squad strengthening.

did you read the report look at the accounts the debt went from 15 mill to 17 mill ( loss of about 2 mill like i said ) and that is with the 50mill+ from winning the champs league which you cant count on every year .

so after this season there will be a �40 mill drop in income .(estimate loss of 2 mill +40 mill =42 mill ) looks like david will have to dip in again to fund the purchase of more players his uncle must be spinning !!.

anto1208

31/05/2006, 2:23 PM

He still cannot seem to comprehend that Liverpool are actively looking for investment. I doubt financial facts will help him

because he cant keep bailing ye out , chelsea are also looking for investment that means nothing .

anto1208

31/05/2006, 2:27 PM

I know. As I've previously mentioned Anto likes to think he's "intelligent" yet his spelling and punctuation defy his probable age.

this is what ive been saying about armchair liverpool fans come on shouting about being champions of europe but there knowlege of there own club is so poor when challenged they have to dodge the question and resort to childish name calling .

as ive said before it doesnt bother me what ye nomarks think about my spelling if i wanted i could write it properly but i like this style of writing so thats the way im going to write .

drinkfeckarse

31/05/2006, 2:37 PM

when challenged they have to dodge the question and resort to childish name calling .

as ive said before it doesnt bother me what ye nomarks think about my spelling if i wanted i could write it properly but i like this style of writing so thats the way im going to write .

Nobody is dodging any questions, I'm answering but you're not grasping...

Love the last bit... "I could write properly if I wanted to" :D :D :o

Roadend

31/05/2006, 3:17 PM

I just find it funny his complete lack of knowledge of the workings of a football club, not to mention the fact that David Moore's personal fortune is nowhere near enough to keep paying for purchases year on year.

Risdale, Richardson, Murray and Bates must have been billionairres, I can't imagine the banks funding their yearly spending sprees that they went through, oh wait......

anto1208

01/06/2006, 10:40 AM

After landing Johnson for 8.6 mill Moyes has nt stopped spending yet , Everton last night has an undisclosed fee accepted for Joleen Lescott by Wolves (reading had a 4.5 mill bid turned down last week ) .

thats the 3rd major signing of the transfer window and underlines the ambition of the manager &and fans that is now being matched by the board who have stumped up 30 mill in the last 18 months .

Nice one Bill the season ticket renewal is in the post roll on august :)