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JoeSemi
06/12/2005, 2:04 PM
At the end of the day, only the latest results count. Not what they were 2 years ago, or in 2 years time, for "development" purposes. What the team does in each game is the finished product, which is the only thing that matters. It's crap to lose in the FA Cup at Burnley, it's crap to lose in the League Cup at Crystal Palace, it's disasterous to be hammered at home by Chelsea. One man is responsible for those defeats, and will be criticised as a result. If the finished product is flawed, which domestically it has been until very recently, then as a fan of the club, I have every right to highlight my dissatisfaction with how things are.

Beating the likes of Portsmouth at home merely papers over the cracks until we run into decent sides, and our problems are exposed. Until such time, as we are able to compete with the big boys, both in individual games and over the season, on a regular basis; the coach, and others if necessary will not escape a mypost-lashing.

I'm not sure are you aware of the long held tradition/unwritten conduct among Liverpool fans of not openly criticising or booing either the team or any individual player when 100% can be seen to be given. Hence, the outpouring of joy for Peter Crouch when he opened his account on saturday. If Peter Crouch had gone hiding over the last few months and his performance level had dropped to Beattie levels do you think he'd have been given the appreciation he got? Unlikely; and that is why he is in the team every week and Cisse isn't. Notice the lack of discontent among Liverpool fans at the minute if you can and it may tell you that things are going well and there is full faith in Rafa and what he is doing.

Erik Meijer was recently listed as the top cult-hero among Liverpool fans in this months Kop magazine. It certainly wasn't for his football ability, but for the effort he put in on the rare occasions he played. Igor Biscan got a worthy mention also. Any other set of fans would curse them until their dying day that they happened to wear their team's colours. That in a nutshell sums up how special the bond is between both the greats and not so greats of Liverpools past and its supporters. Meijer could be remembered as the lumbering Dutchman who wouldn't hit a barn door, but because he gave his all anytime he put on the red shirt he has endeared himself to a generation of supporters.

It is easy as a Rovers supporter to vent frustration at your crumbling Hoops when there is ample ammunition to fire. Liverpool, on the other hand, is different. Not only to Rovers, but to any other club. Cast your mind back to Istanbul, to the semi-final against Chelsea, to the homecoming last May, to the night against Juventus, to the streets of Cardiff before the Carling cup-final, and to the night when Gerard Houllier made his return from illness. All those occasions will go down in folklore as occasions that any true Liverpool fan will feel proud of. Not only because of what the team did, but as a way of setting themselves further apart from ordinary fans, of ordinary clubs, as someting special. What I am getting at mypost is, are you the fan who criticises at every needless opportunity or, one of the fans that fits in nicely with what true Liverpool fans are all about? I suspect the former from the trash I read from you sometimes. I don't think you'd last 10 minutes among hardcore Kopites if you trawled out some of the gash you've come out with on here recently.

Your entitled to your opinion like everybody else and thats your perogative. But when there is a marked improvement not only from the start of this season, but also a significant one from last season and you continually belittle it, I wonder why any club needs enemies when it has so-called fans like you. You go on about how "only the latest results count" and then contradict yourself by bringing up Burnley and Palace!:confused: What are you on about talking about each game as the "finished product"? The whole season is a work in progress and each game is a step to what the club want to achieve long-term. In football there is no such thing as the finished product, both on an individual and collective level. Rafa Benitez had to overhaul a club on the verge of financial disaster because of Houllier's mismanagement and has done so steadily, and not without success(may I remind you). There's no talk of 5 year plans, with a big void left to fill if it goes pear-shaped. There hasn't been any major hiccups in the tranfer market. And, there has been a gradual, but noticeable, improvement in the style of football being played. What more, may I ask, do you want mypost? Keep highlighting your dissatisfaction "until we are able to compete with the big boys". Were Milan, Juve and Chelsea big enough for you? You'd probably turned the TV off at half-time on May 25th thinking we'd been walloped again by one of the big boys. "2nd and below is for also-rans" Thank fcuk Milan were the also-rans that night and mypost was probably left with egg on his face:p

I'm thoroughly enjoying the current run of form and as D:ream said, "things can only get better"! Hopefully starting tonight by beating or drawing with the Blue Man U and topping the group.

jockser
06/12/2005, 4:00 PM
I'm not sure are you aware of the long held tradition/unwritten conduct among Liverpool fans of not openly criticising or booing either the team or any individual player when 100% can be seen to be given. Hence, the outpouring of joy for Peter Crouch when he opened his account on saturday. If Peter Crouch had gone hiding over the last few months and his performance level had dropped to Beattie levels do you think he'd have been given the appreciation he got? Unlikely; and that is why he is in the team every week and Cisse isn't. Notice the lack of discontent among Liverpool fans at the minute if you can and it may tell you that things are going well and there is full faith in Rafa and what he is doing.

Erik Meijer was recently listed as the top cult-hero among Liverpool fans in this months Kop magazine. It certainly wasn't for his football ability, but for the effort he put in on the rare occasions he played. Igor Biscan got a worthy mention also. Any other set of fans would curse them until their dying day that they happened to wear their team's colours. That in a nutshell sums up how special the bond is between both the greats and not so greats of Liverpools past and its supporters. Meijer could be remembered as the lumbering Dutchman who wouldn't hit a barn door, but because he gave his all anytime he put on the red shirt he has endeared himself to a generation of supporters.

It is easy as a Rovers supporter to vent frustration at your crumbling Hoops when there is ample ammunition to fire. Liverpool, on the other hand, is different. Not only to Rovers, but to any other club. Cast your mind back to Istanbul, to the semi-final against Chelsea, to the homecoming last May, to the night against Juventus, to the streets of Cardiff before the Carling cup-final, and to the night when Gerard Houllier made his return from illness. All those occasions will go down in folklore as occasions that any true Liverpool fan will feel proud of. Not only because of what the team did, but as a way of setting themselves further apart from ordinary fans, of ordinary clubs, as someting special. What I am getting at mypost is, are you the fan who criticises at every needless opportunity or, one of the fans that fits in nicely with what true Liverpool fans are all about? I suspect the former from the trash I read from you sometimes. I don't think you'd last 10 minutes among hardcore Kopites if you trawled out some of the gash you've come out with on here recently.

Your entitled to your opinion like everybody else and thats your perogative. But when there is a marked improvement not only from the start of this season, but also a significant one from last season and you continually belittle it, I wonder why any club needs enemies when it has so-called fans like you. You go on about how "only the latest results count" and then contradict yourself by bringing up Burnley and Palace!:confused: What are you on about talking about each game as the "finished product"? The whole season is a work in progress and each game is a step to what the club want to achieve long-term. In football there is no such thing as the finished product, both on an individual and collective level. Rafa Benitez had to overhaul a club on the verge of financial disaster because of Houllier's mismanagement and has done so steadily, and not without success(may I remind you). There's no talk of 5 year plans, with a big void left to fill if it goes pear-shaped. There hasn't been any major hiccups in the tranfer market. And, there has been a gradual, but noticeable, improvement in the style of football being played. What more, may I ask, do you want mypost? Keep highlighting your dissatisfaction "until we are able to compete with the big boys". Were Milan, Juve and Chelsea big enough for you? You'd probably turned the TV off at half-time on May 25th thinking we'd been walloped again by one of the big boys. "2nd and below is for also-rans" Thank fcuk Milan were the also-rans that night and mypost was probably left with egg on his face:p

I'm thoroughly enjoying the current run of form and as D:ream said, "things can only get better"! Hopefully starting tonight by beating or drawing with the Blue Man U and topping the group.

A round of applause for you Joesemi and a great post. i have often thought of sitting down and writting a lengthy post like you have to explain to some posters what a fool they make themselves look like but then just though...nah he is not worth it. People like that love moaning, playing devils advocate and seeking attention.
still a great post that every liverpool fan who knows the "liverpool way" will agree to

TheJamaicanP.M.
06/12/2005, 5:11 PM
I'm not sure are you aware of the long held tradition/unwritten conduct among Liverpool fans of not openly criticising or booing either the team or any individual player when 100% can be seen to be given. Hence, the outpouring of joy for Peter Crouch when he opened his account on saturday. If Peter Crouch had gone hiding over the last few months and his performance level had dropped to Beattie levels do you think he'd have been given the appreciation he got? Unlikely; and that is why he is in the team every week and Cisse isn't. Notice the lack of discontent among Liverpool fans at the minute if you can and it may tell you that things are going well and there is full faith in Rafa and what he is doing.

Erik Meijer was recently listed as the top cult-hero among Liverpool fans in this months Kop magazine. It certainly wasn't for his football ability, but for the effort he put in on the rare occasions he played. Igor Biscan got a worthy mention also. Any other set of fans would curse them until their dying day that they happened to wear their team's colours. That in a nutshell sums up how special the bond is between both the greats and not so greats of Liverpools past and its supporters. Meijer could be remembered as the lumbering Dutchman who wouldn't hit a barn door, but because he gave his all anytime he put on the red shirt he has endeared himself to a generation of supporters.

It is easy as a Rovers supporter to vent frustration at your crumbling Hoops when there is ample ammunition to fire. Liverpool, on the other hand, is different. Not only to Rovers, but to any other club. Cast your mind back to Istanbul, to the semi-final against Chelsea, to the homecoming last May, to the night against Juventus, to the streets of Cardiff before the Carling cup-final, and to the night when Gerard Houllier made his return from illness. All those occasions will go down in folklore as occasions that any true Liverpool fan will feel proud of. Not only because of what the team did, but as a way of setting themselves further apart from ordinary fans, of ordinary clubs, as someting special. What I am getting at mypost is, are you the fan who criticises at every needless opportunity or, one of the fans that fits in nicely with what true Liverpool fans are all about? I suspect the former from the trash I read from you sometimes. I don't think you'd last 10 minutes among hardcore Kopites if you trawled out some of the gash you've come out with on here recently.

Your entitled to your opinion like everybody else and thats your perogative. But when there is a marked improvement not only from the start of this season, but also a significant one from last season and you continually belittle it, I wonder why any club needs enemies when it has so-called fans like you. You go on about how "only the latest results count" and then contradict yourself by bringing up Burnley and Palace!:confused: What are you on about talking about each game as the "finished product"? The whole season is a work in progress and each game is a step to what the club want to achieve long-term. In football there is no such thing as the finished product, both on an individual and collective level. Rafa Benitez had to overhaul a club on the verge of financial disaster because of Houllier's mismanagement and has done so steadily, and not without success(may I remind you). There's no talk of 5 year plans, with a big void left to fill if it goes pear-shaped. There hasn't been any major hiccups in the tranfer market. And, there has been a gradual, but noticeable, improvement in the style of football being played. What more, may I ask, do you want mypost? Keep highlighting your dissatisfaction "until we are able to compete with the big boys". Were Milan, Juve and Chelsea big enough for you? You'd probably turned the TV off at half-time on May 25th thinking we'd been walloped again by one of the big boys. "2nd and below is for also-rans" Thank fcuk Milan were the also-rans that night and mypost was probably left with egg on his face:p

I'm thoroughly enjoying the current run of form and as D:ream said, "things can only get better"! Hopefully starting tonight by beating or drawing with the Blue Man U and topping the group.


Post of the month Joe. I'm not a Liverpool fan but I can understand how it's an exciting time for the club at the moment. The game last weekend was the best league performance I've seen from Liverpool in a long time. In fact, some of the football Liverpool played going forward was as good as I've seen from any team this season, and that includes Spurs! Its obvious mypost hasn't got a leg to stand on with his argument. Also, fully agree with what you said about the way Liverpool fans treat their players, both past and present.

jockser
07/12/2005, 5:50 PM
Post of the month Joe. I'm not a Liverpool fan but I can understand how it's an exciting time for the club at the moment. The game last weekend was the best league performance I've seen from Liverpool in a long time. In fact, some of the football Liverpool played going forward was as good as I've seen from any team this season, and that includes Spurs! Its obvious mypost hasn't got a leg to stand on with his argument. Also, fully agree with what you said about the way Liverpool fans treat their players, both past and present.
Another easy result last night at chelsea, ANOTHER clean sheet....9 in a row, and finishing top of the group. Rafa is the fcukin man yeah!!!
and to think that at the beginning of the group stage Maureen-o stated the betis would be chelseas main threat in the group :D
now cmon Benfica i know they have alot of injuries at the moment .....but wouldnt it be funny!!!!!

mypost
07/12/2005, 8:15 PM
At the mo, I'm draped across the couch, can of heino in hand, packet of Walkers Prawn Cocktail, and lap-top resting rather precariously, watching Liverpool crashing out of the Champions League, 1-1 (15mins left). She-Devil at work, more heino in fridge...........does it get any better than this???? :D

At the mo, I'm draped across the couch, can of coke in hand, packet of Walkers Prawn Cocktail, and lap-top resting rather precariously, watching United crashing out of the Champions League, 2-1 (15mins left). She-Devil at work, more coke in fridge..does it get any better than this???? :D

How the tables have turned! :D

sligoman
07/12/2005, 8:21 PM
watching United crashing out of the Champions League, 2-1 (15mins left).All they need is a draw, 7 mins left now though:o.

How the tables have turned! :DThe Premiership one still has Pool and United in the right order though:p.

sligoman
07/12/2005, 8:33 PM
All they need is a draw, 7 mins left now though:o.Ok, now it's over:o.

Dillo
07/12/2005, 10:25 PM
I think it's sickening and speaks volumes to see Villareal top their group tonight and qualify for the last sixteen of the champions league. If it weren't for a downright disgraceful referring decision in disallowing a perfectly good Duncan Ferguson header last August, chances are merseyside would have two representatives in the last sixteen. Judging from the games i've saw, I have no doubt the toffees would have held their own in such a group.

sligoman
07/12/2005, 10:27 PM
I have no doubt the toffees would have held their own in such a group.Good one!:D:rolleyes:.

dfx-
07/12/2005, 10:37 PM
THHHHHHHHHUUUUUMP.


Down come Utd to reality ;)

Dillo, Everton would not have been in that group most likely, they would have not been as rated as Villareal.....they would've been third seeds in AC's rgoup or something like that...

Like Olly gesticulating that had they beaten Depor, they would've been in the group with Liverpool last season....... :D :D

Dillo
07/12/2005, 10:42 PM
[QUOTE=d f x-]THHHHHHHHHUUUUUMP.


Down come Utd to reality ;)

Dillo, Everton would not have been in that group most likely, they would have not been as rated as Villareal.....they would've been third seeds in AC's rgoup or something like that...



True, that never dawned on me actually! :o

They still could be in the CL though.

Old Trafford Sunday... could there be a better time to play them?? :D

mypost
08/12/2005, 2:13 AM
Originally Posted by sligoman
Ok, now it's over.

Waited 11 years for this.

Time to crack open another can of Coke!!!! :p :D :p

John83
12/12/2005, 12:03 PM
Erik Meijer was recently listed as the top cult-hero among Liverpool fans in this months Kop magazine. It certainly wasn't for his football ability, but for the effort he put in on the rare occasions he played. Igor Biscan got a worthy mention also. Any other set of fans would curse them until their dying day that they happened to wear their team's colours. That in a nutshell sums up how special the bond is between both the greats and not so greats of Liverpools past and its supporters... Liverpool, on the other hand, is different. Not only to Rovers, but to any other club.
Why is it that so many people delude themselves that their fan culture is better than anyone else's? Man Utd fans held Forlan in that same light - hell, UCD fans rate Mick O'Donnell because he tries harder than anyone for all his technical failings. It's not special.

Anyway, enough of that. Your point regards Rovers is well said.

razor
12/12/2005, 12:25 PM
The Premiership one still has Pool and United in the right order though:p.Agreed ;)

dfx-
12/12/2005, 6:30 PM
Ok, now it's over.

And not just the match:p

Another excellent weekend...Deportivo Saprissa up next..

1. Chelsea
2. Liverpool
3. Man U


Obscurity. Everton

Nice looking table that..

sligoman
12/12/2005, 8:03 PM
And not just the match:p

Another excellent weekend...Deportivo Saprissa up next..

1. Chelsea
2. Liverpool
3. Man U


Obscurity. Everton

Nice looking table that..Pool are due a slip-up soon enough, we'll see where the are come the end of the season;).

Redtop
12/12/2005, 8:05 PM
well we already had our slip up at the start of the season;) ;)

JoeSemi
12/12/2005, 9:26 PM
Pool are due a slip-up soon enough, we'll see where the are come the end of the season;).

Yeah, they might actually concede a goal:p We'll take that as the next slip-up.

Dillo
12/12/2005, 9:46 PM
What a fine team performance by Moyes' men in Old Trafford on sunday. Some fantastic individual performances including Weir and Zizu Kilbane but Phil Neville was head and shoulders above everyone on the pitch. Along with been a workhorse and a great footballer his leadership was never more evident than on sunday. ManUre must be kicking themselves for letting him go as there's no doubt he was the player with the capacity to fill the void left by Keane and not that scumbag Alan Smith. Another one of Ferguson's many mistakes on the transfer markets... :p

Next up is the hammers in Goodison on wednesday night followed by Big Sam and co on saturday. The blues may well be sitting in a very healthy league position come saturday night! :cool:

JoeSemi
12/12/2005, 9:56 PM
What a fine team performance by Moyes' men in Old Trafford on sunday. Some fantastic individual performances including Weir and Zizu Kilbane but Phil Neville was head and shoulders above everyone on the pitch. Along with been a workhorse and a great footballer his leadership was never more evident than on sunday. ManUre must be kicking themselves for letting him go as there's no doubt he was the player with the capacity to fill the void left by Keane and not that scumbag Alan Smith. Another one of Ferguson's many mistakes on the transfer markets... :p

Next up is the hammers in Goodison on wednesday night followed by Big Sam and co on saturday. The blues may well be sitting in a very healthy league position come saturday night! :cool:

I have to agree with you for once on this thread Dillo. I thought Phil Neville was outstanding......outstandingly ugly! I've always thought he was better than his rat of a brother and its proving to be the case now. He's been Everton's best performer all season and is only now starting to get genuine credit for his ability.

The countdown is beginning to the 28th now. The derby is about all Everton's season has ever amounted to and it should be no different this year. Liverpool on the other hand have the biggest of fish to fry in the new year;)

jockser
13/12/2005, 3:23 PM
:D
Pool are due a slip-up soon enough, we'll see where the are come the end of the season;).
uefa cup for the scum if they dig deep.........:D

jockser
13/12/2005, 3:25 PM
What a fine team performance by Moyes' men in Old Trafford on sunday. Some fantastic individual performances including Weir and Zizu Kilbane but Phil Neville was head and shoulders above everyone on the pitch. Along with been a workhorse and a great footballer his leadership was never more evident than on sunday. ManUre must be kicking themselves for letting him go as there's no doubt he was the player with the capacity to fill the void left by Keane and not that scumbag Alan Smith. Another one of Ferguson's many mistakes on the transfer markets... :p

Next up is the hammers in Goodison on wednesday night followed by Big Sam and co on saturday. The blues may well be sitting in a very healthy league position come saturday night! :cool:Wouldnt get too carried away lad.....benfica reserves walked all over that lot and everton could only manage a draw :D

jockser
15/12/2005, 10:59 AM
everton 1 -2 west ham

see what i mean!!!:D

sligoman
15/12/2005, 11:37 AM
uefa cup for the scum if they dig deep.........:D:rolleyes:.

The "scum" just bet Wigan 4-0 last night:p.

jockser
15/12/2005, 12:46 PM
:rolleyes:.

The "scum" just bet Wigan 4-0 last night:p.
we are all in awe!!!:rolleyes:

dfx-
15/12/2005, 3:59 PM
Liverpool might think so but OFFICIALLY, it was an own goal, SIR!

*ahem* Have a looksie, sir *ahem* (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4499060.stm);) :p

sligoman
15/12/2005, 4:02 PM
*ahem* Have a looksie, sir *ahem* (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/4499060.stm):pRobbery!:mad:. Pollitt deserved that goal, he worked hard for all of the match:p.

dfx-
15/12/2005, 4:08 PM
:p

4 goals now......

sligoman
15/12/2005, 4:10 PM
:p

4 goals now......and how many appearances was that again?:confused:;).

dfx-
15/12/2005, 4:14 PM
Good things come to those who wait....;) :p

Mikey better start getting off that massage table and get out scoring or he'll be behind little Crouchy..;)

Afterall - which is better - 10 goals out of 35 matches played for €10m or 10 goals out of 10 matches played for €25m? Who would you think had more influence on the team's results over the season?

mypost
15/12/2005, 8:05 PM
Mikey better start getting off that massage table and get out scoring or he'll be behind little Crouchy..;)

Afterall - which is better - 10 goals out of 35 matches played for €10m or 10 goals out of 10 matches played for €25m? Who would you think had more influence on the team's results over the season?

Ahem, the beanpole hasn't got 5, never mind 10 goals yet. :rolleyes:

This is like Ted saying to Dougal in the caravan, "goalscorer"......."influence" x2.

Throws Subbuteo Crouch on floor, "Ah, forget it".

Redtop
16/12/2005, 5:40 PM
i would definetly take owen over crouch but crouch has done his part in the good run since coming to liverpool..and crouch isnt riddled with injuries either

Redtop
16/12/2005, 5:40 PM
i would definetly take owen over crouch but crouch has done his part in the good run since coming to liverpool..and crouch isnt riddled with injuries either

declan hide
19/12/2005, 12:36 PM
did the bolton fans chant "we want 5?"

Dillo
20/12/2005, 12:36 PM
I think it's fair to say that Everton's next three games may prove crucial to the outcome of their season. The last two results haven't been good but i'm remaining optimistic that things will change for the better.

Villa (a)
Pool (h)
Sunderland (a)

I'm hoping Everton will take at least 5 points from those three games and begin 2006 with a bang!

anto1208
21/12/2005, 10:08 PM
I think it's fair to say that Everton's next three games may prove crucial to the outcome of their season. The last two results haven't been good but i'm remaining optimistic that things will change for the better.

Villa (a)
Pool (h)
Sunderland (a)

I'm hoping Everton will take at least 5 points from those three games and begin 2006 with a bang!

i think its time weir got dropped thats 2 games and 2 goals he has cost us , kroldrop is a quality player very similar to yobo and likes to pass it out of defence rather than lob it long like weir .

a new striker is needed but reports of 3 mill in the xmas kitty it does nt look likely to get any one proven, hope fully well pick up that icelandic kid he is banging them in .

the next few games are so important with yobo going to the african nations cup we need to get some points on the board . need a good performance v villa then im off to the derby after xmas :D to throw abuse at that lanky streek of p is s

sligoman
21/12/2005, 10:22 PM
By winning the league cup what do you get? UEFA isn't it?:confused:

Redtop
23/12/2005, 11:35 PM
tis surely

dfx-
23/12/2005, 11:52 PM
LONDON, Dec 19 (AFP)

- Australian international Tim Cahill admitted on Monday that Everton’s season, which began with Champions League aspirations but has descended into a relegation dogfight, is an "embarrassment". David Moyes’ men suffered their worst home defeat for 12 years, a 4-0 humiliation by Bolton on Saturday which followed last Wednesday’s 2-1 home defeat by West Ham.
"We are embarrassing ourselves," said Cahill.
Everton’s 2005 record makes worrying reading.
In the last 12 months they have won just 14 games in all competitions and only 11 wins in 35 league matches. Now Everton’s stars accept that the tide has to turn over the holiday period or they will be facing a relegation battle in 2006.




Just thought that would be appropriate here..although a few days late...;)

sligoman
23/12/2005, 11:56 PM
tis surelyWell then, United will get Uefa at least next season so:D.

Redtop
24/12/2005, 11:45 AM
Doubt it my moneys on wigan

dfx-
26/12/2005, 4:59 PM
Crouch 1-0 Owen.........

Not even a hint of a chance for a €25m striker...

"All the way to Newcastle, all the way to Newcastle, all the way to Newcastle and you never touched the ball.." ;)

mypost
26/12/2005, 8:34 PM
Crouch 1-0 Owen.........

Not even a hint of a chance for a €25m striker...

"All the way to Newcastle, all the way to Newcastle, all the way to Newcastle and you never touched the ball.." ;)

Score Correction:

Crouch 0-0 Owen.

Liverpool 2-0 Newcastle
Gerrard, Given (og)

You'll have to come up with better than that.

De Town
26/12/2005, 8:52 PM
Score Correction:

Crouch 0-0 Owen.

Liverpool 2-0 Newcastle
Gerrard, Given (og)

You'll have to come up with better than that.
Ah now in fairness, I know teletext has it as an OG, but surely thats Crouch's goal.

dfx-
26/12/2005, 10:05 PM
:rolleyes:

Rooney goal against the Swiss last year anyone.....?



Or maybe the question again (with mypost again, that is) is how much of a touch is an og by a keeper and how much isn't? Are we talking about 26% of the hand? Or 12% of the foot - anything above that is an og?:rolleyes:

mypost
26/12/2005, 11:27 PM
Ah now in fairness, I know teletext has it as an OG, but surely thats Crouch's goal.


how much of a touch is an og by a keeper and how much isn't? Are we talking about 26% of the hand? Or 12% of the foot

FTR, Crouch's header was initially touched onto the post by Given. The ball then went in via Given's head. OG.

jockser
26/12/2005, 11:44 PM
Score Correction:

Crouch 0-0 Owen.

Liverpool 2-0 Newcastle
Gerrard, Given (og)

You'll have to come up with better than that.
Sad just how sad! :rolleyes:
Any comments on how brilliant liverpool were today instead?:confused:

mypost
27/12/2005, 6:20 AM
Sad just how sad!

:confused:

Rory H
27/12/2005, 10:51 AM
everton were so poor yesterday....4-0 to villa says it all....angel and baros made light work of yobo and kroldrop[sp] was wrecked after half time....it was too easy

sligoman
27/12/2005, 1:16 PM
"All the way to Newcastle, all the way to Newcastle, all the way to Newcastle and you never touched the ball.."Really? Here was me thinking he scored a hatrick against West Ham last week. Did he put them in the net by magic? Surely he "touched the ball" no?:p


Sad just how sad! :rolleyes:mypost isn't been sad, he's been truthful;).