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mypost
21/08/2007, 11:40 AM
Get over it, it's one bad decision.
If it was one bad decision, you could. But this is the third time in 3 weeks, after another pen was given at Feyenoord for our defender heading the ball out for a corner. :confused::mad:
Ref's standards are slipping.
anto1208
21/08/2007, 12:16 PM
If it was one bad decision, you could. But this is the third time in 3 weeks, after another pen was given at Feyenoord for our defender heading the ball out for a corner. :confused::mad:
Ref's standards are slipping.
No all that is happening is liverpool are getting the same treatment all the other clubs have to put up with last year everton had 13 penalty's turned down , of which Kieth Hackett said 10 should have been given and no one got banned or even repremanded .
Yet liverpool have one dodgy peno go against them and the poor ref gets banned for a week and still pool fans are moaning, get over it what difference will it make anyway , just be glad you took a point of chelsea and get on with it
KildareFan
21/08/2007, 12:23 PM
If it was one bad decision, you could. But this is the third time in 3 weeks, after another pen was given at Feyenoord for our defender heading the ball out for a corner. :confused::mad:
Ref's standards are slipping.
You're talking about a friendly here, wait until a bad refereeing decision costs you a place in the Champions League group stages and come back to me.
I don't recall many Liverpool fans complaining last week after Gerrard had "won" a free kick against Villa
wait until a bad refereeing decision costs you a place in the Champions League group stages and come back to me.
To quote your good self, "Get over it, it's one bad decision". It was thanks to us that UEFA allowed you to play in the tournament that season.
KildareFan
21/08/2007, 1:49 PM
To quote your good self, "Get over it, it's one bad decision". It was thanks to us that UEFA allowed you to play in the tournament that season.
oh if that was true, ask the referee's chief Keith Hackett who said that we were entitled to 8 (i think) penalties last season that were turned down while the media decided to try and paint AJ as some sort of diver.
And it wasn't UEFA that allowed us to compete, we finished 4th and qualified. The rules were bent to allow the team that finished 5th that season to enter the competition.
mypost
21/08/2007, 2:09 PM
I don't recall many Liverpool fans complaining last week after Gerrard had "won" a free kick against Villa
I don't think the issue would have been heard of again, if he hadn't scored, somehow.
And yes, it was a free-kick, btw.
KildareFan
21/08/2007, 2:52 PM
I don't think the issue would have been heard of again, if he hadn't scored, somehow.
And yes, it was a free-kick, btw.
Same as I don't think Liverpool would be that bothered about the penalty if Lampard had missed and they had won 1-0???
The penalty issue was raised immmediately by the media and the football powers. If the penalty was saved, the awarding of it would still have to be questioned because it was a ridiculous decision.
Dont get me started on AJ, 8 penalities yeah right. His blatant dives were there for all to see.
KildareFan
21/08/2007, 3:37 PM
The penalty issue was raised immmediately by the media and the football powers. If the penalty was saved, the awarding of it would still have to be questioned because it was a ridiculous decision.
Dont get me started on AJ, 8 penalities yeah right. His blatant dives were there for all to see.
That's total crap, name one penalty last season that AJ dived to win? Cos i name at least 5 off the top of my head that he should have had but didn't. Even the referee's chief Keith Hackett said the same when he came out and publicly said that everton and AJ in particular had been hard done by in 8 (i think) penalty incidents
BBC Gossip Column (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/default.stm) says the Brummies are on the verge of signing Jan Koller. I think that he would be the ideal partner for AJ, better in fact than Yakubu. Hes older now but 2 years would be a good deal. Anyone agree?
anto1208
22/08/2007, 8:19 AM
BBC Gossip Column (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/default.stm) says the Brummies are on the verge of signing Jan Koller. I think that he would be the ideal partner for AJ, better in fact than Yakubu. Hes older now but 2 years would be a good deal. Anyone agree?
Too old and not good enough for us .... .how good is it to be able to say that now no more Ginola's or gazza's !!!:D
anto1208
22/08/2007, 8:25 AM
That's total crap, name one penalty last season that AJ dived to win? Cos i name at least 5 off the top of my head that he should have had but didn't. Even the referee's chief Keith Hackett said the same when he came out and publicly said that everton and AJ in particular had been hard done by in 8 (i think) penalty incidents
You are better off not getting into it with them AJ gets fouled yet they call him a diver , Gerrard dives and they say there was Intent :rolleyes: Gerrard jumps into a player its a body check , chelsea guy does it he is cheating ( even though he didnt look for a peno ) .
Come on these are the same people that think that liverpool are tittle contenders thats the mentality your dealing with .
KildareFan
22/08/2007, 8:37 AM
You are better off not getting into it with them AJ gets fouled yet they call him a diver , Gerrard dives and they say there was Intent :rolleyes: Gerrard jumps into a player its a body check , chelsea guy does it he is cheating ( even though he didnt look for a peno ) .
Come on these are the same people that think that liverpool are tittle contenders thats the mentality your dealing with .
True, very true
reder
22/08/2007, 10:12 AM
Come on these are the same people that think that liverpool are tittle contenders
Well, that tends to happen at clubs that actually win trophies.
KildareFan
22/08/2007, 12:06 PM
Well, that tends to happen at clubs that actually win trophies.
How many did you win last year?
Benitez must be getting worried, about exhausting his moans and excuses about a lack of funds, he had to come up with something different i suppose
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2007/08/22/rafa-benitez-blasts-premier-league-100252-19671289/
anto1208
22/08/2007, 1:16 PM
How many did you win last year?
Benitez must be getting worried, about exhausting his moans and excuses about a lack of funds, he had to come up with something different i suppose
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2007/08/22/rafa-benitez-blasts-premier-league-100252-19671289/
This caught my attention what is he talking about it was easy for utd :eek: its been the longest drawn out transfer ive can remember
“Then I want to ask the Premier League why it was so so difficult for Liverpool to sign Javier Mascherano, when we had to wait a long time for the paperwork, but it was so easy for Carlos Tevez to join Manchester United?:rolleyes:
KildareFan
22/08/2007, 1:21 PM
This caught my attention what is he talking about it was easy for utd :eek: its been the longest drawn out transfer ive can remember
“Then I want to ask the Premier League why it was so so difficult for Liverpool to sign Javier Mascherano, when we had to wait a long time for the paperwork, but it was so easy for Carlos Tevez to join Manchester United?:rolleyes:
Doesn't mention the rules being bent (yet again) for Mascherano to complete his deal after the transfer deadline. As for the Tevez comparasion, what planet is he on??!?!?
What's worse is that Liverpool fans actually believe this!! Just wait until the weekend and see how many are complaing about the way their fixtures are!!!
How many did you win last year?
Dont make me laugh! We lost the CL final the biggest cup final in world football. Tell me when is the last time Everton actually made it to a cup final? I wont even ask about European football. We all know about your pathetic record in Europe.
What are you going on about regarding our fixtures? We are well used to playing midweek and weekends.
anto1208
22/08/2007, 1:46 PM
Dont make me laugh! We lost the CL final .
Congrats you must be proud of that :p
Roadend
22/08/2007, 1:52 PM
How many did you win last year?
1 of course, the community shield :p
mypost
22/08/2007, 2:14 PM
You are better off not getting into it with them AJ gets fouled yet they call him a diver , Gerrard dives and they say there was Intent :rolleyes: Gerrard jumps into a player its a body check , chelsea guy does it he is cheating ( even though he didnt look for a peno ) .
Round 22 Anto:
Gerrard did not dive against Sheffield Utd
Gerrard did not jump into an Aston Villa player for a free kick.
Chelsea did cheat to get a penalty last weekend.
Round 23 to follow.
Just wait until the weekend and see how many are complaing about the way their fixtures are!!!
He has every right to complain. The 12.45ko's are a disgrace, be it Liverpool or anyone else. But Sky don't give a shyte, do they??
Roadend
22/08/2007, 2:20 PM
Chelsea didn't cheat to get the penalty, the ref was just wrong.
KildareFan
22/08/2007, 2:23 PM
Round 22 Anto:
Gerrard did not dive against Sheffield Utd
Gerrard did not jump into an Aston Villa player for a free kick.
Chelsea did cheat to get a penalty last weekend.
Round 23 to follow.
He has every right to complain. The 12.45ko's are a disgrace, be it Liverpool or anyone else. But Sky don't give a shyte, do they??
I don't see him or anybody else at Liverpool turning down Sky's money though. Sky pumps enough money into football now that it almost runs it and if it suited sky and they thought they would get an audience, games would kick off at 3 o'clock on a monday morning.
Bentitez' whinging is quite frankly pathetic and it just looks like he is getting his excuses in early
anto1208
22/08/2007, 2:34 PM
Round 22 Anto:
Gerrard did not dive against Sheffield Utd
Gerrard did not jump into an Aston Villa player for a free kick.
Chelsea did cheat to get a penalty last weekend.
Round 23 to follow.
He has every right to complain. The 12.45ko's are a disgrace, be it Liverpool or anyone else. But Sky don't give a shyte, do they??
And you just proved everything i have been saying about liverpool fans
Congrats you must be proud of that :p
No shame in losing to Milan in a final.
We have won the european cup 5 times, making us one of the most successful clubs in European football, the most successful British club by a country mile and as a result we have shed an unbelieveable amount of positivity on English football.
Everton on the other hand, got knocked out first time round in both european cups.
anto1208
22/08/2007, 2:50 PM
Since the red****e keep dragging us down to there level this will make a welcome relief by getting back to the footy
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/yak-fee-agreed.html
11.25 mill he is now holding talks with everton .:D
hope this cheers you up on the transfer market kildare fan :D if it all goes through
INS
Jags 4m
Baines 6m
Fernandes 8m
Yakubu 11.25m
Pienaar loan
Wessel free
also howard was this summer 3 mill
32.25mill TOTAL
OUTS
Beattie 4m
Naysmith 1m
wright free
pistone free
TOTAL 5mill
Some good work by Moyes clear some dead wood and got in good quality young players
...........Howard
Neville yobo lescott Baines
............Carsley
Artetta Cahill Fernandes
..........Yakubu AJ
with Jags , Pienaar , VDM , Faddy ,Osman Turner , Stubbs, Hibbert, Nuno ,Vic, Vaughan . as cover
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/yak-fee-agreed.html
11.25 mill he is now holding talks with everton .:D
Lay a bet he fails the famous Everton medical. Presume you are on about that story or did you mean the
Buy your ticket for Blackburn and receive priority for Man Utd (subject to terms & conditions).
headline. Thats the Blackburn this Saturday that you cant sell out. If my memory serves me correctly you failed to sell out the Wigan game also. The people of the city are obviously not interested in heading to Everton this season.
anto1208
22/08/2007, 3:42 PM
Lay a bet he fails the famous Everton medical. Presume you are on about that story or did you mean the
headline. Thats the Blackburn this Saturday that you cant sell out. If my memory serves me correctly you failed to sell out the Wigan game also. The people of the city are obviously not interested in heading to Everton this season.
As everyone knows there are 10,000 seats classed as restricted view at Goodison hence the move being so important . So selling out every seat in the ground would be a miracle I don’t think anyone know matter how big a fan would pay to go see the back of a pillar .( cue all the jokes about it being more interesting than whats on the pitch :D)
Roadend
22/08/2007, 3:55 PM
Since the red****e keep dragging us down to there level
Since we're on the subject of levels being dragged down and all.....:p
mypost
22/08/2007, 4:36 PM
I don't see him or anybody else at Liverpool turning down Sky's money though.
You don't see us, because we have no choice. Sky have 4 packages to decide when they want games on. They cherry-pick their games throughout the season, the clubs have no say on the ko times. Same as the tv companies do here. It's gone that way in France now, and in Spain.
The Bundesliga is the fairest when it comes to ko times. Everyone is treated equally by ARD. Most games kick off simultaneously on Saturday afternoons.
KildareFan
22/08/2007, 4:49 PM
Since the red****e keep dragging us down to there level this will make a welcome relief by getting back to the footy
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/yak-fee-agreed.html
11.25 mill he is now holding talks with everton .:D
hope this cheers you up on the transfer market kildare fan :D if it all goes through
INS
Jags 4m
Baines 6m
Fernandes 8m
Yakubu 11.25m
Pienaar loan
Wessel free
also howard was this summer 3 mill
32.25mill TOTAL
OUTS
Beattie 4m
Naysmith 1m
wright free
pistone free
TOTAL 5mill
Some good work by Moyes clear some dead wood and got in good quality young players
...........Howard
Neville yobo lescott Baines
............Carsley
Artetta Cahill Fernandes
..........Yakubu AJ
with Jags , Pienaar , VDM , Faddy ,Osman Turner , Stubbs, Hibbert, Nuno ,Vic, Vaughan . as cover
You can't argue with Yakubu's goal record. He can be a bit lazy at times but AJ does the work of two men anyway so that will make up for him!! We need to be a bit clinical in front of goal and hopefully Yakubu is the man to do it. I really hope this works out because I have a feeling that Moyes' entire reputation will rest on his shoulders.
Still no official confirmation of the Fernandes deal, I've had everything crossed for the last week hoping that this will come off. I really think this could be one of the biggest signings in our history. Hopefully there will be a press conference with the two before the weekend.
anto1208
22/08/2007, 9:39 PM
You can't argue with Yakubu's goal record. He can be a bit lazy at times but AJ does the work of two men anyway so that will make up for him!! We need to be a bit clinical in front of goal and hopefully Yakubu is the man to do it. I really hope this works out because I have a feeling that Moyes' entire reputation will rest on his shoulders.
Still no official confirmation of the Fernandes deal, I've had everything crossed for the last week hoping that this will come off. I really think this could be one of the biggest signings in our history. Hopefully there will be a press conference with the two before the weekend.
We have agreed money with benfica 6mill he has passed his medical and agreed terms , we are awaiting international clearance and it will take time to sort the 3rd party ownership out we are trying to buy the other half from the same guy involved with Tevez . I expect a dual unvailing soon .
Hopefully YAk is ready for sat with AJ and vic having knocks and faddy unfit he would be a welcome sight lining up v blackburn . Think the most important thing he brings is someone just to hammer the ball home we do a lot of fannying around at times trying to get AJ in .
anto1208
23/08/2007, 10:07 PM
ive just heard Its a yes vote :)
chuckie
23/08/2007, 10:21 PM
ive just heard Its a yes vote :)
Offcom have been called in to investigate:D
KildareFan
24/08/2007, 9:59 AM
ive just heard Its a yes vote :)
59% of those that voted said yes but only 46% of those eligible to vote said yes, I can't believe over 10,000 eligible voters didn't vote unless you take that as vote of no confidence.
I'm still not sure about this move but i've thought that we would going to Kirby for a long time now. It doesn't matter whey they play, it's still everton.
reder
24/08/2007, 10:30 AM
Liverpool a one team city, fact!
Song for Everton (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAyN3Xu32Lo)
anto1208
24/08/2007, 1:00 PM
Liverpool a one team city, fact!
Song for Everton (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAyN3Xu32Lo)
yes your right the only team left in the city now is american owned spanish managed and with not one single player from liverpool in the team you truely are the club of the city :rolleyes:
with not one single player from liverpool in the team you truely are the club of the city :rolleyes:
Steven Gerrard : Huyton/Whiston
Jamie Carragher : Bootle
2 out of our first XI.
KildareFan
24/08/2007, 2:13 PM
Steven Gerrard : Huyton/Whiston
Jamie Carragher : Bootle
2 out of our first XI.
And both are the probably the same distance from Liverpool as Kirby, you can't have it both ways.
Alan Stubbs and Leighton Baines are both from Kirby, they are both as scouse as they come.
It's stupid anyway, would you argue that somebody from Tallaght is not from Dublin because they are outside the city centre?
Location is not the reason that I would argue against the move
anto1208
24/08/2007, 2:40 PM
Steven Gerrard : Huyton/Whiston
Jamie Carragher : Bootle
2 out of our first XI.
That must get confussing
Huyton. Knowsley Metropolitan Borough ( IN LIVERPOOL CITY ) :confused:
Kirby. Knowsley metropolitan Borough ( OUTSIDE LIVERPOOL CITY ) :confused:
Bootle is a town within the Metropolitan Borough of Sefton
Now its all after getting very confussing all three are outside the city yet to suit your slag 2 of them are actually inside the city luckily enough for you the only that isnt is kirby .
Roadend
24/08/2007, 3:14 PM
Ahem, Kirkby
anto1208
24/08/2007, 3:42 PM
Ahem, Kirkby
true :o still im not from liverpool
No confusion Anto. Its easy peasy. Everton have now decided to break their ties with the city and move outside the city walls. Liverpool are now the sole team in the city.
Actually, Ive had a change of heart. LFC should do everything we can to make your move as easy and as smooth as possible.
After all, every little helps. :)
anto1208
24/08/2007, 4:24 PM
No confusion Anto. Its easy peasy. Everton have now decided to break their ties with the city and move outside the city walls. Liverpool are now the sole team in the city.
Hypothetical question : If Everton actually won something (carling cup, Intertoto cup something like that), where would the open-top bus celebrations be held?
Well untill they move the bounds out again like the boundry commision has recomended .
Anyway i Support everton not the city it doesnt matter to me where they play , ask UTD fans does it matter to them that there not in the city . Does it really matter to Liverpool fans the majority of who arent from liverpool that they are located in liverpool it seems strange people not from the city would care , did the fans care when anfield was outside the bounds ?? i wouldnt think so .
Will Everton fans mind when they move to a new 400 acre site with brand new pubs restaurants hotels shops tons of car parking and having the stadium that is the best served by public transport in the mid west.
Where will the bus go? at the moment it would go city centre - everton valley - goodison i would presume after 2010 prop city centre- everton vally and head on out to the stadium
Giuly
24/08/2007, 10:32 PM
I hope the reds will trash those Toulouse ****s at least 8-0 on at home. They never deserved that 3rd place.
Roadend
27/08/2007, 8:48 AM
I was under the impression it was only a matter of time before Everton signed Fernandes???
anto1208
27/08/2007, 8:53 AM
I was under the impression it was only a matter of time before Everton signed Fernandes???
It was but due to FA red tape & Everton fannying around he is flying in the have a medical with Valencia today . Serious **** up by everton This deal should have been done at the start of the summer . Cant blame the player he waits all summer then comes over does his medical agrees terms and a week later still no deal .
The conspiricy theorist are going to have a field day even more so since Yakubu has been turned down for a work permit .
Good isnt it Everton cant sign a player with 3rd party ownership even thoguh UTD and liverpool can , and Yakubu cant play for us even though he can play for Boro !!:rolleyes:
Roadend
27/08/2007, 9:02 AM
The Yakubu thing is a joke alright. He opted not to play for Nigeria last year or something right? Obviously that has (stupidly) gone against him.
anto1208
27/08/2007, 9:49 AM
The Yakubu thing is a joke alright. He opted not to play for Nigeria last year or something right? Obviously that has (stupidly) gone against him.
yea he fell out with the manager and didnt get picked then didnt want to travel for some friendly game so hasnt played in the 75% of internationals required to get your work permit . But what is a bigger joke is if he doesnt get it to play for us he just goes back to playing with boro !!!
KildareFan
27/08/2007, 11:07 AM
yea he fell out with the manager and didnt get picked then didnt want to travel for some friendly game so hasnt played in the 75% of internationals required to get your work permit . But what is a bigger joke is if he doesnt get it to play for us he just goes back to playing with boro !!!
I think they were expecting it to get turned down at the first time of asking but the appeal should be accepted on Wednesday on the basis that he has played in the top flight for 5 years.
The fernandes thing is a joke, it doesn't matter how much we spend on a striker if we have no midfield to supply him with chances (apart from arteta obviously). He should have been signed months ago, even still he has been in Liverpool for the last week, training at Bellefield and was at the game on Saturday, how have we f*cked this one up, a joke
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