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ciaran76
11/07/2007, 10:41 AM
Yea and then build one of the best training facilities in the league out in finch farm opening next month for first team and youth teams .
yea after Rooney put in a transfer request because he wouldnt work with moyes after he thought moyes leaked the story about the prossies . ( thats from rooney not Bill )
NTL deal ! So what ,deals dont come off all the time , Kings dock you do realise we would have just been tennents in the ground it would have belonged to LCC . While a great location there is a load of reasons why this didnt go ahead . Fortress Fund wanted to buy the club 51% for 50 mill we got into champs league so the value went up they would nt pay any more and there where questions over the running of the fund . Very good call not to sell to them .
Sold the rights to JJB and for the first time ever the shops turned a Profit !!! So instead of loosing us money every year its now making us money .
First i heard of any 14 mill mortgage this april have you any link for this ?
Sorry about the delay I have it on another computer. I will get it soon.
The link about the 14 million that is.
From what I read we are practically broke.
anto1208
11/07/2007, 10:48 AM
Sorry about the delay I have it on another computer. I will get it soon.
The link about the 14 million that is.
From what I read we are practically broke.
I find that hard to imagine with debts of under 30 mill , if you think about it liverpool had debts of 80mill + before they where bought by corporate america , Utd have debts of 300 mill + chelsea etc all in tons of debt . To think that Everton with an 80mill turnover (up from 40 mill a few years back )would be broke sounds strange .
I dont think we have much to spend that would explain the long wait for players as moyes has to be carefull , But 14 mil in football terms is nothing
Roadend
11/07/2007, 1:27 PM
I find that hard to imagine with debts of under 30 mill , if you think about it liverpool had debts of 80mill + before they where bought by corporate america ,
Err, no they didn't, more like £25m according to shareholders.
Looks like Everton are not going to be spending again this transfer window.
From www.football365.com
Everton boss David Moyes has hit out at the "irresponsible" attitude of some Premier League clubs during this summer's transfer window.
Moyes sealed a £4million move for Phil Jagielka from Sheffield United last week and is keen to add more players to his squad, but admits he is struggling to compete with some of the top flight's big spenders.
The likes of Manchester United, Tottenham, Liverpool, Fulham and West Ham have splashed millions of pounds on new players this summer and Moyes fears inflated prices could have negative consequences for the game.
He told Everton's official website: "I think there has been some irresponsible buying and spending by some clubs and it makes it a bit more difficult if you've got less money to spend than that."
He added: "We'd like to add to the squad and I know the supporters are desperate to see new faces coming in, no more so than me, but things out there in the market are tight.
"But we are certainly doing everything we can to strengthen the squad and give ourselves a chance. We've done it that way for the past few years and we'll continue to do so.
"I've been a supporter, in fact I still am a supporter, but we're always quite cagey here and we don't give too much away partly because people know that we don't have the funds to compete at the top end."
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I actually totally agree with him that PL transfer fees are ridiculous but sounds like the ginger whinger is preparing the people for a soft landing regarding buying players.
anto1208
12/07/2007, 3:10 PM
I actually totally agree with him that PL transfer fees are ridiculous but sounds like the ginger whinger is preparing the people for a soft landing regarding buying players.
I thought the very same the second i saw the headline MOYES WANTS TO ADD TO SQUAD . i knew what it was going to be before i clicked into the article . same old line being brought out over inflated prices which is right when you consider Koumas 5.3 mill Nugent 6 mill and even a price tag of between 3 and 5.5 mill !!!!! for keiran Richardson !!!! yes keiran richardson 5.5 mill :eek: and the "we are looking to add to the squad and are working very hard" .
So thats it for purchases im not too annoyed with that i think there is a good team there came 6th last year , cahill back from injury + jags signed and Nuno VDM back fit thats 4 players that we didnt have last year . ( i know clutching at straws springs to mind ) But what really annoys me is the constant stream of these kind of articles if they just came out and said thats it we re broke thats all we can buy id be a lot happier than thinking we are just waiting for the right players then end up on the 31st with no one .
Yet they keep talking about breaking the big four !! rubbish look at the players UTD chelsea and even Liverpool have brought in ,the gulf is going to be huge this year we might still be a top 6 side but we will be 20 points off 4th spot
Im thinking a we needed the cash story coming up soon when one of the better players are sold
reder
13/07/2007, 12:57 PM
I detect a potential legend.
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Liverpool’s new striker, revelling in being given his chance on the biggest stage, tells Guillem Balague about his Anfield hopes
Guillem Balague
Fernando Torres was walking his two dogs near his house in Madrid – “two sensitive bulldogs” that he plans to take to Liverpool – when he got a call from a number he did not recognise. He does not normally answer his phone when he does not know who it is, but thinking it may have been a call from England he decided to pick it up in case it was Cesc Fàbregas, José Manuel Reina or José Antonio Reyes.
“I cannot remember if he said, ‘Hi, it’s Rafa’ or, ‘Hi, this is Benítez,’ ” Torres said. The Liverpool manager was on holiday in Portugal a week after the Champions League final, but he was focusing on signing the striker that would help his team to make the definitive jump in quality in the Barclays Premier League. “I was surprised but did not realise the dimension of what I was hearing till I hung up,” Torres said. “Then I thought, ‘Wow, this club that can get anybody in the world has rung me, they want me.’”
A month and a half later, a couple of days ago in fact, he arrived at Mel-wood at 8am for his first Liverpool training session. Nobody was at the training ground yet, so he changed and started having breakfast while waiting for people to arrive. He shook hands with Peter Crouch first, then Jamie Carragher and Steven Gerrard, and then he gave Reina a hug – he had arrived. At 23 he was finally where everybody predicted he would end up, at one of the big clubs, one that will help him to play for the first time in European competition and one where he is capable of fulfilling his dreams.
Sadly, it could not be with Atlético Madrid, the club that saw him grow. And that became painfully obvious in the last match of the season just finished, a humiliating 6-0 home defeat by Barcelona. “We always raised our game against Barcelona,” Torres said. “It was one of our little victories during a season. We thought that proved that we could be at a higher level if things were done in the right way. But it was all an illusion and I realised it on that day. I had to move on.”
When the offer from Liverpool arrived, he asked Atlético to listen to it and if possible accept it, even though Benítez was never going to pay the whole of his buy-out clause – €40 million (about £27 million). The offer was about €25 million increasing to about €30 million depending on targets, plus Luis GarcÍa, valued at €4 million. Then Torres went on holiday to Polynesia and he returned sooner than expected because everything was agreed.
After passing the medical and signing he asked to say goodbye to his fans in Madrid before being unveiled at Anfield. “In one of the trips, at the passport control of the airport, we were there when a plane landed,” he said. “People recognised me and I started signing autographs, but at the same time opening a space so I could keep moving. I quickly realised life was going to be different in Liverpool.”
Torres is talking about the weight of expectation that he has had to carry at Atlético, where, at 19, he became captain and the only person responsible for everything that was good and bad at the club. He was mobbed, criticised, scrutinised. He couldn’t breathe.
People accused him of saying goodbye in a distant way, no tears or anything. When presented with the new Atlético shirt he rejected the opportunity to wear it. When the chairman offered a hug, he gave a hand instead.
“I didn’t think it was convenient to wear Atlético’s new shirt when I belonged already to another club,” he said. But what he means is that it was never again up to him to represent the club he loves. There was no shield for the directors who for eight years had failed to build a team that could qualify for Europe. In the press conference at Anfield, the weight had gone. It was another Fernando Torres and the smile he wore that day has not abandoned him since.
“I don’t care about the weather. My girlfriend, who I will live with, is from Galicia, where it rains constantly,” Torres said. “I know I am in a special club, in a city that has had better times, but that is getting stronger. I have already noticed that in the couple of days we have been here.
“When my friends gave me the arm-band with the ‘we’ll never walk alone’ logo, the one they have tattooed in their arms, I was not thinking of Liverpool as my next destination, but there is a reason why we liked that sentence. At Atlético, in my district, we know what it means.”
But training is different and he is already suffering the consequences of the hard work imposed by Pako Ayes-taran, the Liverpool assistant manager. “They do train here, don’t they?” he said. Torres knows how important the physical side of the game is in England. “I am going to play 20 more matches than at Atlético,” he said. “But I am sure the adaptation is going to be easier partly because I know some of the guys here, but partly because I can already see in training that the team moves like a unit.
“It is a team that is already solid. I was running around trying to follow their moves but I’m still miles away to accomplish that efficiently.”
However, other factors will help his adaptation. “I can see I could be useful when we use the counter-attack, with the long balls of Gerrard or the passes from Xabi [Alonso],” Torres said. “It is up to me to give even more to the team. I have scored more goals when I have been playing as a target man, but I can play off another striker, do his dirty work if you like.
“I will have to get used to the different intensity of the Premier League. I also need to get rid of some of the habits one learns when younger. There will be a price to pay while I learn, a yellow card or two. At least I know from having watched the Premier League that referees allow more to the forward. In Spain if I made a fault it was a yellow card straight away, but here I can be physical.”
Liverpool fans will have to wait until one of the friendlies in Switzerland next week – against Werder Bremen or Auxerre – to see Torres’s debut. His ankle is getting better and he is training normally. The forward played the last two matches of last season’s La Liga while injured to help the failed attempt to get Atlético into Europe despite the fact that he knew there could be moving on.
Now he plans to start improving his basic English and keeps looking at the DVDs the club gave him when he arrived. “They are about the Kop, about the old players and managers,” he said. “I have seen a few of them and will see the rest when we go to China, it is a long trip.” Six years at Liverpool could also be considered a long trip, but Torres can’t wait to start. “How do you say ‘ estoy muy ilusionado’ in English?” he asked before going around Liverpool looking for houses. It is “I’m so made up” – in Scouse
drinkfeckarse
13/07/2007, 1:05 PM
Excellent article, thanks for that reder. Hope the club had officially contacted Atlético when Rafa phoned him though :D
Excellent article, thanks for that reder. Hope the club had officially contacted Atlético when Rafa phoned him though :D
Shhhh!!
anto1208
13/07/2007, 1:08 PM
Sounds like every player joining every club .
Anyway on to more important things the toffee's are on the telly tomor live on Setanta V N. Ireland .
Half the team will travel as the squad is being split and the other half will play Bury . the game V wender Bremen will also be shown on 31st of july .
Sounds like every player joining every club .
Anyway on to more important things the toffee's are on the telly tomor live on Setanta V N. Ireland .
Dont be jealous. You know he's a born red. :D
Your playing NI, the country?
KildareFan
13/07/2007, 1:59 PM
Looks like we have one big signing left in us. Hope its fernandes!!
Speaking to the Liverpool Echo, Moyes said:
“I do not have a big enough pool of money at my disposal just to go and throw it about here and there.
“I have got the ability to make one good signing and there is also the facility in place to bring in a couple of loan deals.
“But when I make this signing, I have got to be really sure he will be an improvement on what we have got here. I want to get that main business out of the way before I starting looking at loan deals.”
That's the thing about Moyes, he has to get every transfer spot on. People go on about him being Dithering Davie but when he has so little money, he has to take his time and get it right. For me, he has made one bad signing since he took over, beattie. Davies and Kroldrup obviously didn't work out but when they were sold on we only lost a million on each deal and when you think of the profit that we made on Marcus Bent and Kilbane, they even each other out.
How many of Benitez' signings could be called an unqualified success? Alonso certainly, maybe Reina and I think Agger will prove to be in the long run. But how many have been pure ****e? too many to list here. He would be lucky to have a 50% success rate in the transfer market.
Moyes has brought in cahill, lescott, AJ, arteta, Howard, players who have been outstanding value. If Kenwright would get his finger out and really back the manager, we would really being places. We're just threading water at the moment and I hope if things don't well for us next year, that people direct their anger at Kenwright and not Moyes
anto1208
13/07/2007, 2:02 PM
Dont be jealous. You know he's a born red. :D
Your playing NI, the country?
Yea the country , its to promote the milk cup i guess they didnt think of this rain when they organised it i prefere not to be playing in ireland at all now could end up with some nasty injuries running around in that mud
anto1208
17/07/2007, 11:49 AM
Stadium plans from big keith :
Tesco to contribute 50 mill to the cost of the stadium
Council to give the land for free .
(Tesco to pay council 50 mill for the land the council will then use that 50 mil to pay for the stadium )
the rest to be raised from naming rights and selling Goodison .
leaving everton with a State of the art Stadium extra 10mill in transfer funds each year ,and very little debt .
Season ticket holders to be balloted in August to see if they want to move . There is no plan B
Hmmmm while I was going to vote YES im after being swung to the NO side ( no thanks to the idiots at KEIOC ) until I get the following answered
How the flip can you build a state of the art stadium from 65 mill plus naming rights ? whats liverpools costing 270 !!! ?EDIT ( Stadium to cost 75 mill using tesco's contractors they hope to get it done for 50 !!! :eek: leaving a cost of 10 or so mill to outfit it to everton )
The stadium will be finished in 2010 so end of first year will be 2011 that’s when this extra 10mill transfer fund will kick in , what happens in between then are we to expect 4 years of the crap we got this summer 4mill transfer kitty ?
Will the stadium be ours or tesco’s ?
Why is there no plan B what the flip have ye been doing the last year and a half ?
Its going to be a no vote even though Goodison is falling down you have to queue for ages to get grub or a beer the jacks are manky . Mainly due to lack of info
KildareFan
17/07/2007, 12:35 PM
That's an absolute disgrace from Wyness and that alone is reason to demand his resignation.
How can he ask people to vote on it when he admits that they still don't know how much it is going to cost everton?
Where does this figure of 10m a year extra to spend on players come from? is that just a figure plucked out of the air? If everton want a yes vote, they have to give a detailed breakdown of how the new stadium is going to generate this money.
How is there no plan B? what have they been doing for the last 2 years? How can a CEO of a company as big as Everton admit that they don't have a plan B, it's just staggering.
I think we need to leave Goodison but i don't want to do it when clowns like Wyness and Kenwright are involved. I wouldn't trust them to open a corner shop without making a balls of it.
They are pushing this stadium as everton's only option but it's not, it's Kenwright and Wyness' only option, i'm hoping that a landslide No vote will leave them with no option but to stand down and let somebody who has some sort of clue what they are at go in charge.
anto1208
17/07/2007, 12:44 PM
That's an absolute disgrace from Wyness and that alone is reason to demand his resignation.
How can he ask people to vote on it when he admits that they still don't know how much it is going to cost everton?
Where does this figure of 10m a year extra to spend on players come from? is that just a figure plucked out of the air? If everton want a yes vote, they have to give a detailed breakdown of how the new stadium is going to generate this money.
How is there no plan B? what have they been doing for the last 2 years? How can a CEO of a company as big as Everton admit that they don't have a plan B, it's just staggering.
I think we need to leave Goodison but i don't want to do it when clowns like Wyness and Kenwright are involved. I wouldn't trust them to open a corner shop without making a balls of it.
They are pushing this stadium as everton's only option but it's not, it's Kenwright and Wyness' only option, i'm hoping that a landslide No vote will leave them with no option but to stand down and let somebody who has some sort of clue what they are at go in charge.
It prob is the only option though , when Bradley ( from LCC ) said they will not provide Everton with £50 mill worth of land to build on yet he expects us to stay . With the council saying stay and it will cost you 50 mill extra , we have to leave.
The extra money comes from extra revenue 55,000 seater but mainly corporate boxes the corporate boxes at Goodison are rubbish and mainly rented by the players for there families .
Still lots of questions that need answering before ill vote yes .
reder
17/07/2007, 12:58 PM
For me, he has made one bad signing since he took over, beattie.
Really, you must be the one and only blue member of the VDM fanclub. Also,we have made a heck of a lot more signings than Everton during Rafa's term, hence there is more of a chance of signing a "dud".
KildareFan
17/07/2007, 1:02 PM
This move will define how Everton as a club does for the next 100 years. It's not the only option for everton, it's the only option for kenwright and wyness. It's the easy option for them, Tesco stump up the cash and call the shots and we come crawling behind them. Kenwright and wyness are trying to push this as the only option, either kirby or goodison forever more but i don't think that's true.
I'm not from liverpool so the whole kirby city centre thing isn't as big a deal for me as it is for others but this whole things feels so wrong. The spin and lies and crap coming out of the club at the moment is just disturbing. Don't forget these are the men who lied at the club's AGM regarding the Fortress sports fund when it suited them, they will have no problem lying again.
I'm not from liverpool so the whole kirby city centre thing isn't as big a deal for me as it is for others but this whole things feels so wrong.
Well it is a massive issue for any blue from the city. They might as well move to Manchester. As a red, I am dreaming that they move to Kirby. It would be like the ultimate eternal p*** take.
Goodison forever just aint an option. It is genuinely an awful ground by todays premiership standards (wooden seats built on old terraces).
KildareFan
18/07/2007, 8:06 AM
Well it is a massive issue for any blue from the city. They might as well move to Manchester. As a red, I am dreaming that they move to Kirby. It would be like the ultimate eternal p*** take.
I understand that but there are everton fans who would vote no to kirby even if we were moving to the best stadium in the world which would be wrong, i'm against the move for more practical reasons, we wouldn't even have own the land that the ground was built on!!
anto1208
18/07/2007, 8:37 AM
Well it is a massive issue for any blue from the city. They might as well move to Manchester. As a red, I am dreaming that they move to Kirby. It would be like the ultimate eternal p*** take.
Goodison forever just aint an option. It is genuinely an awful ground by todays premiership standards (wooden seats built on old terraces).
It might be old and falling down but its still nicer than anfield :p .
It doesnt bother me it seems to only be bothering the people living within walking distance or the ones with bussiness's near by( KEIOC group ) to goodison that are up in arms and at that its only there own selfish reasons they wont get a train out to kirby or there bussiness will suffer .Who cares if we move across an imaginary boundary its not like its the first time ( its not like Anfield was nt built outside the city bounds aswell) so any liverpool fan that does slag us just shows themselves up as not knowing there own clubs history ( that would be a first :rolleyes:).
At this stage the council are screwing us again
Everton put foward plans to build on stanley park there are told no way but liverpool get the go ahead ????, kings dock : that was scupered by the council aswell because they didnt want 40,000 fans in the city centre on sat, yet the same council bend over backwards to let liverpool build on park land . The same council are now saying they want us to stay but are refusing to give us any land to build on :confused: .
staying in the city mean forking out 50 mill for the land we will also have to fork out the 100 or so mill the stadium will cost .
So the options are stay in the city in either an old crappy Goodison or go 150 mill into debt building a new one or go to kirby where we will get a brand new stadium for about 10 mill which the naming right should more or less take care off . Its a no brainer
KildareFan
18/07/2007, 10:57 AM
So the options are stay in the city in either an old crappy Goodison or go 150 mill into debt building a new one or go to kirby where we will get a brand new stadium for about 10 mill which the naming right should more or less take care off . Its a no brainer
How is it a no brainer? It's 3 weeks to the vote and they haven't shown a single plan for the stadium. If it's going to be such a great stadium, why aren't they showing plans and artists drawings of how what it will look like?
If it was going to be a state of the art world class stadium, it might be a no brainer but what if it's the cheapest stadium possible that turns us into a laughing stock?
Just because we're getting it for next to nothing, doesn't mean we should take it
anto1208
18/07/2007, 12:42 PM
How is it a no brainer? It's 3 weeks to the vote and they haven't shown a single plan for the stadium. If it's going to be such a great stadium, why aren't they showing plans and artists drawings of how what it will look like?
If it was going to be a state of the art world class stadium, it might be a no brainer but what if it's the cheapest stadium possible that turns us into a laughing stock?
Just because we're getting it for next to nothing, doesn't mean we should take it
They are releasing full plans this week , there are all ready artist impressions out
http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0400evertonfc/0150kingsdock/tm_headline=blueprints-for-a-new-kirkby%26method=full%26objectid=19365460%26siteid= 50061-name_page.html
It will be a four sided stadium rather then a lifeless bowl it is to be based on this one
http://www.stadt-koeln.de/fifawm2006/english/sportinkoeln/stadion/index.html
Plunge the club into a massive debt of 150mill +++ ( add our own debt etc your getting closer to 200 mill )
or take this one for basically nothing
yip it is pretty much a no brainer but i will still vote no unless they have answered everythign i need to know and that Everton own the stadium ( i think they will i just want it in black and white )
anto1208
18/07/2007, 4:19 PM
Everton wont own the stadium it will be on a 199 year lease hhhmmmmmmm
Am i just going to have to vote again in 200 years
anto1208
20/07/2007, 9:37 AM
First look at the new ground i must admit im quite impressed , looks a bit like a birthday cake :D with all the candles around the top .
Im glad its a 4 sided ground instead of a bowl and there is room to add more seats in the top corners if needs be .
They also seem to be answering all my questions all systems go we are on our way to kirby i think .
http://www.evertonfc.com/club/stadium-gallery.html?access=8537
Its looks like Boro's ground but if you as an evertonian are happy with it then fair enough.
Just 2 quick observations :
- Its a night game, bet its not a european night.
- People are leaving the ground early as you can see, you must be losing at home again!
- The ground looks like its full, it must be derby day or the mancs must be in town.
anto1208
20/07/2007, 1:59 PM
Its looks like Boro's ground but if you as an evertonian are happy with it then fair enough.
Just 2 quick observations :
- Its a night game, bet its not a european night.
- People are leaving the ground early as you can see, you must be losing at home again!
- The ground looks like its full, it must be derby day or the mancs must be in town.
Very good :D
anto1208
20/07/2007, 3:55 PM
was nt going to post this untill it was official as it might have gone sour like so many deals involving everton (like the Vogal deal) but Borussia Dortmund has loaned midfielder Steven Pienaar to us for the year with a view to buy .
EDIT : Spoke too soon he is now awaiting a work permit
superfrank
20/07/2007, 4:37 PM
was nt going to post this untill it was official as it might have gone sour like so many deals involving everton (like the Vogal deal) but Borussia Dortmund has loaned midfielder Steven Pienaar to us for the year with a view to buy .
EDIT : Spoke too soon he is now awaiting a work permit
He'll probably get it. He's a regular international for South Africa. Good player too, imo.
says on BBC that hes only had one cap for SA. Is that right? :confused:
the lack of signings so far is worrying. Whats going on? Anyone?
so im new to this thread, another Evertonian. Can i get a quick show of hands on the other toffees?
anto1208
20/07/2007, 11:54 PM
says on BBC that hes only had one cap for SA. Is that right? :confused:
the lack of signings so far is worrying. Whats going on? Anyone?
so im new to this thread, another Evertonian. Can i get a quick show of hands on the other toffees?
here is a little about him from the toffees website
Steven Pienaar has agreed a 12 month loan deal from Borussia Dortmund and will sign subject to a successful application for a work permit, the outcome of which should be known early next week.
The 25-year-old South African international moved to the Bundesliga from Ajax in 2006 and made 25 appearances for Dortmund last term.
He emerged as a hot prospect with Ajax after making the move from the Dutch side's satellitle club, Ajax Cape Town.
He signed a three year deal with Dortmund, taking the number 10 shirt vacated by Arsenal-bound Tomas Rosicky.
He played alongside Everton midfielder Andy van der Meyde during his emergence at Ajax.
The midfielder will add competition to the Blues squad - and should a work permit be forthcoming he would become Everton's second major new arrival of the summer following the signing of Phil Jagielka from Sheffield United.
Looks handy left sided midfielder what we have been crying out for since kevin sheedy , played with VDM too . 2 singings should get Vogal too ( swiss captain holding midfielder ) thats 3 . The rumour now is Smith has agreed to join and will be unveiled just before the stadium ballot as a sweetner , sounds strange that they would keep it a secret untill August !!!
Sickened from poor james Vaughan out for up to 6 months with a disslocated shoulder in a freak challenge V preston ( defender just pulled his arm out of the socket :eek:) was really hoping for big things from him feel so sorry for him he was out for 14 months with a knee injury now this physio said it was the most devestated he has seen a player in 30 years . that will be over 20 months out injured and he just turned 19 this week !!!!
He played alongside Everton midfielder Andy van der Meyde during his emergence at Ajax.
You bitters will never learn. Another VDM in the making.
anto1208
23/07/2007, 3:02 PM
You bitters will never learn. Another VDM in the making.
Any team would be happy to have a injury prone alcoholic thats afraid of flying :D
Any team would be happy to have a injury prone alcoholic thats afraid of flying :D
The foot.ie team for one have higher standards than that....... :)
superfrank
24/07/2007, 12:14 AM
The foot.ie team for one have higher standards than that....... :)
We've met before.....right? :D
mypost
24/07/2007, 11:37 AM
Stadiums, stadiums, stadiums......yawn :o
Now onto more interesting matters, such as the proposed Heinze transfer. I see the tyrant is getting scared, and is citing an "illegal approach" by us for him. It's not like he doesn't know what they are. :rolleyes: Like it's going to stop us anyway.
He might not have much of a say in the issue, if Heinze buys out the rest of his contract, allowing him to get the hell out of there, and head West. :D
reder
24/07/2007, 12:34 PM
Stadiums, stadiums, stadiums......yawn :o
Now onto more interesting matters, such as the proposed Heinze transfer. I see the tyrant is getting scared, and is citing an "illegal approach" by us for him. It's not like he doesn't know what they are. :rolleyes: Like it's going to stop us anyway.
He might not have much of a say in the issue, if Heinze buys out the rest of his contract, allowing him to get the hell out of there, and head West. :D
If he gives the mancs the 2 fingers and joins us, it would be priceless are the topic of many anti-manc songs. If he stays injury free he would be a fantastic signing.
Elax can go f himself. He's digging a massive hole for himself with the "illegal approach" waffle.
drinkfeckarse
24/07/2007, 2:44 PM
He's the master at it. Just ask Jaap Stam.
anto1208
24/07/2007, 2:48 PM
If he gives the mancs the 2 fingers and joins us, it would be priceless are the topic of many anti-manc songs. If he stays injury free he would be a fantastic signing.
Elax can go f himself. He's digging a massive hole for himself with the "illegal approach" waffle.
Its does seem strange that old Tappy Taperton would bring something like that up.
anto1208
25/07/2007, 11:41 AM
Stadiums, stadiums, stadiums......yawn :o
Talking about stadiums ive just seen a pic of the new anfield ( or what ever its called ) ye cant be happy with that can ye it looks terrible .
Looks like a supermarket from the outside then they have ruined to seating layout by trying to incorporate a "new kop" into it .
Roadend
25/07/2007, 12:34 PM
Its what happens inside that counts ;)
jockser
25/07/2007, 4:33 PM
delighted with new stadium. Looks excellent. KOP is awsome
4tothefloor
25/07/2007, 4:56 PM
Talking about stadiums ive just seen a pic of the new anfield ( or what ever its called ) ye cant be happy with that can ye it looks terrible .
Looks like a supermarket from the outside then they have ruined to seating layout by trying to incorporate a "new kop" into it .
New stadium is awesome. A real football stadium and none of that bowl s**te that every stadium seems to be now. All four sides of the ground are different. Delighted with the new kop, it'll be sensational :D
Inside looks good, outside does look a bit like a supermarket though
anto1208
26/07/2007, 12:40 PM
Roy Keane has said that Baines is holding out for Everton thats why he turned down sunderland , and the Liverpool fanzine the Echo are reporting that moyes is making a move for both Baines and Smith .
Pinnaar made a good impression in his first game the other day scored as well .
drinkfeckarse
26/07/2007, 1:00 PM
Makes sense, he's from Merseyside I think. Love the new stadium btw, the only concern I would have would be the gaps between the stands. A lot of noise generated would be lost that way. Of course that won't be a problem once it's upgraded to 78,000 :)
BohsPartisan
26/07/2007, 2:11 PM
See on Toffeeweb there is talk of a new possible location, down at "Loop junction" opposite the exite of the Wallasey tunnell. This would be a superb location. Its in Everton and its within walking distance of the city centre.
Oh yeah, link:
Down with Tesco (http://www.toffeeweb.com/season/07-08/news/070723.asp)
anto1208
26/07/2007, 3:41 PM
I really think it would be a major mistake if Everton move outside the city, i don't care if it is a cheap stadium it would be a major mistake.
I dont think its a mistake they are moving from a catchment area of 1.5 mill ( within a 45min drive ) to one with 4 mill people , without plunging the club into an uncontrollable debt of hundreds of millions of £'s . its far from a cheap stadium it will be worth 150 mill . If we stay the council have allready said they wont hand over free land Tesco may not come on board as they want to go to Kirby so that could increase the cost to the club by 100 mill all for the sake of not crossing an imaginary line :eek:.
The boundary commision recomended moving the boundary allready but the council didnt want to they will move it if Everton move to Kirby .
Allthough the loop is a good location i allways walk from Goodison back into town anyway to work off the beers thats about half way .
Howard Kendall fears Goodison Park could become a car park for Liverpool supporters at their new £300million stadium, according to the Daily Star Sunday.
The most successful manager in the club's history is horrified at the prospect of his old club having to build their new ground outside the city at Kirkby.
Kendall said: "An Evertonian said to me recently, 'I can see it happening. We go to Kirkby or wherever and Goodison Park is knocked down and then becomes a car park for Liverpool'.
"For a Blue, that would be the lowest of the low - with the Reds parking there and then walking across Stanley Park to their new stadium."
No comment necessary.
anto1208
30/07/2007, 2:56 PM
No comment necessary.
Expensive car park 15 mill , but its not like you can build anything good up there anyway , you couldnt build apartments or anything of any value the place is a dump the soonner we're out of there the better . As someone pointed out to me at the weekend why are liverpool building a glass stadium in Stanley park :eek: .
KildareFan
03/08/2007, 8:36 AM
Kirby gets a big no from me. Here is the brochure that the KEIOC have produced showing that Goodison can be redeveloped.
http://www.keioc.net/uploads///Files/Redeveloped_Goodison_Park.pdf
29 Pages of detail and drawings. What did the club give us? a couple of fancy pictures that showed no detail whatsoever and some made up figures that they couldn't back up.
Fair enough, there are still issues about how this would be funded but once again Kenwright and Wyness have been shown up for the liars that they are.
They said that there was no plan B. LIE!! KEIOC even have a plan C
They said Goodison Park couldn't be redeveloped. LIE!!!
A no vote is the only hope that we have of getting these muppets out of our club. They have said there is no plan B so there is nowhere for them to go other than through the exit door when these results come through. They are ripping our club apart. We've blown another chance this summer to really progress because of the quite pathetic management of these two clowns.
Kenwright and Wyness - GO NOW!!!
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