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Its only my opinion but I disagree.
YOu disagree that away wins in Europe are tough? LOI teams have only won both legs of a European tie 14 times.
2 years ago Sligo lost at home and drew away wtih an Albanian team. now you think you'll win home & away against a Ukrainian team?
Dixie Dean
18/07/2011, 2:31 PM
If we weren't going out and signing Conor Powell and still actively chasing Boco then I don't think the fans of any club would have a problem with what's going on. It would strike of a team having a bit of difficulty paying for a long trip across Europe. But the fact is that we're sacking commercial managers while bringing in highly paid players and then asking for season ticket holders to fork our more money on top of the few hundred euros they forked out at the start of the season as well as the €25 that had to be paid to go to the home European game. That doesn't sound good and with so much precedence out there for LOI clubs spending what they don't have (and their fans saying "there's nothing to see here" while it's being pointed out to them) I think it's right for fans of other clubs to be worried about the way we're going about things. I certainly am.
Yes I would love it if we won the league but if it puts us into the same situation that some of the other clubs have found themselves then I'll give it a miss.
You are talking so much rubbish here its not funny. The club are not asking the season ticket holders to pay in to the pats game. This is purely a fans initiative, if you dont want to do it then dont, no obilgation. The reason for it is to help the club because we have a team worth supporting, have had to pay 50K to hold the game in sligo only to be given a tough draw. Simple as that.
There is always one.
harleyleeds
18/07/2011, 2:51 PM
YOu disagree that away wins in Europe are tough? LOI teams have only won both legs of a European tie 14 times.
2 years ago Sligo lost at home and drew away wtih an Albanian team. now you think you'll win home & away against a Ukrainian team?
statistics can be twisted to suit anything. Pats and Bohs are ranked higher than both Rovers for example. 2 years ago means nothing today . I disagree that 2-0 was a good win against micky mouse opposition thats all nothing more. As quoted earlier me thinking it doesnt make it so but yes i think that. I will enjoy the period up to and hopefully the time after the games instead of thinking were no good so really why bothe like some pessimists. The way the Rovers fans are getting behind their club (fundraising and helping bring Showgies up to standard) is a credit to them and an example to others and will inspire the team in this euro campaign.
Charlie Darwin
18/07/2011, 3:01 PM
statistics can be twisted to suit anything. Pats and Bohs are ranked higher than both Rovers for example. 2 years ago means nothing today . I disagree that 2-0 was a good win against micky mouse opposition thats all nothing more.
But it is something more. You used the 2-0 victory to argue that "Sligo Rovers will beat the Ukranians home and away."
harleyleeds
18/07/2011, 3:11 PM
No I didnt I mearly pointed out that it doesnt flatter them. nothing more. The home and away thing was just an off the cuff comment although as I did say earlier a quick away goal and well who knows and I do genuinley beleive we will win in Showgrounds.
ps Im not arguing anything just offering my feelings twoards the games.
You are talking so much rubbish here its not funny. The club are not asking the season ticket holders to pay in to the pats game. This is purely a fans initiative
Aren't sligo fan owned?
statistics can be twisted to suit anything.
The only statistics I used are wins and losses. You know, the ones that matter
Charlie Darwin
18/07/2011, 3:22 PM
No I didnt I mearly pointed out that it doesnt flatter them. nothing more. The home and away thing was just an off the cuff comment although as I did say earlier a quick away goal and well who knows and I do genuinley beleive we will win in Showgrounds.
ps Im not arguing anything just offering my feelings twoards the games.
But it shows how unrealistic your feelings are if you just casually dismiss other teams like that.
Nah Nah Nah Nah
18/07/2011, 3:50 PM
You are talking so much rubbish here its not funny. The club are not asking the season ticket holders to pay in to the pats game. This is purely a fans initiative, if you dont want to do it then dont, no obilgation. The reason for it is to help the club because we have a team worth supporting, have had to pay 50K to hold the game in sligo only to be given a tough draw. Simple as that.
There is always one.
You're right about the club not asking season ticket holders to pay in at the weekend. And on everything else I said "there's nothing to see here then" obviously. I hope you're right on that as well.
mypost
18/07/2011, 4:48 PM
they only beat a holiday team 2-0 (Glens).
I think you'll see a rather higher score than "only 2-0" in their home leg.
harleyleeds
18/07/2011, 4:58 PM
But it shows how unrealistic your feelings are if you just casually dismiss other teams like that.
do you mean the Glens team cos I didnt casually dismiss any other team?
harleyleeds
18/07/2011, 5:03 PM
Aren't sligo fan owned?
The only statistics I used are wins and losses. You know, the ones that matter
a game two years ago -----really. I get it you matter I dont no problem.
Football fan in outlandishly confident claim on an internet forum shocker!
Really worth 2 pages of debate lads?
harleyleeds
18/07/2011, 6:02 PM
Football fan in outlandishly confident claim on an internet forum shocker!
Really worth 2 pages of debate lads?
didnt seem to stop your smart comment though stu.
" The home and away thing was just an off the cuff comment although as I did say earlier a quick away goal and well who knows and I do genuinley beleive we will win in Showgrounds."
hardly outlandish unless it was BOHS i was on about.
i was actually defending your right as a football fan to make outlandishly confident claims about your team.
Charlie Darwin
18/07/2011, 6:08 PM
do you mean the Glens team cos I didnt casually dismiss any other team?
And the Ukrainian team, whose achievement in beating Glentoran 2-0 away hasn't been matched by any LOI side in recent years (to the best of my recollection).
harleyleeds
18/07/2011, 6:12 PM
And the Ukrainian team, whose achievement in beating Glentoran 2-0 away hasn't been matched by any LOI side in recent years (to the best of my recollection).
were not half the team away on hols?
Charlie Darwin
18/07/2011, 6:16 PM
No. Two players I think.
harleyleeds
18/07/2011, 6:22 PM
No. Two players I think.
Glentoran v FC Vorskla Poltava
Published on Wednesday, 13 July 2011 21:10
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The main area of concern for manager Scott Young is the centre of his defence - skipper Colin Nixon is missing after being booked in both ties with Renova in the previous round and his natural replacement Johnny Taylor will also miss out after he too collected 2 yellows whilst filling in at right-back against the Macedonian‘s.
To add to the headache, vice Captain Sean Ward is out of the country for the next couple of weeks so it is likely that midfielder David Howland - who performed so admirably as a makeshift central defender in last seasons County Antrim Shield final victory against Linfield - will again have to fill that role alongside highly rated youngster Calum Birney, who will make his first start for the Club if selected. Young is, however, boosted by the return of his first choice right back Jamie McGovern after suspension and he will definitely return to the side, with Aidan O’Kane again filling the left-back spot.
Aaron Hogg will continue in goal after his penalty saving debut heroics last week and with Elliot Morris still missing after his red card in Skopje.
In midfield, Richard Clarke will be missing as he is currently on honeymoon. Jimmy Callacher is still missing with the injury he picked up against Bangor, Ciaran Martyn is also a couple of weeks away from a possible return and, as mentioned, David Howland will be required in defence. It is likely that Jason Hill will again take up a role in central midfield - where he performed superbly for much of the Renova game last week - alongside Kyle Cherry and either Martin Murray or Stephen Carson will be introduced in the place of Clarke.
Finally in the forward department, Young will select from Andy Waterworth, Darren Boyce and Richard Gibson after the announcement this week that Matty Burrows will be leaving the Club to start a new life in Spain. Supporters will however be given the opportunity to say goodbye to Matty tomorrow evening as a mark of gratitude for his contribution to the club over the last couple of years.
Vorskla, who hail from the small city of Poltova in central Ukraine, will be a stronger opponent than Renova - having won their Domestic Cup competition as recently as 2 years ago (when they defeated Shakhtar Donetsk 1-0) and finishing in 6th place in the country’s 16 team Premier Division last term. The squad, managed by Mykola Pavlov since 2007 and captained by goalkeeper Serhiy Dolhansky, boasts full international’s from Albania and Serbia (in addition to those who have been selected for the Ukraine) and reached the play-off stage of the Europa League in 2009.
Charlie Darwin
18/07/2011, 6:25 PM
That appears to confirm that it was two players on holiday.
jesus H - its not even the off-season!!
harleyleeds
18/07/2011, 6:35 PM
That appears to confirm that it was two players on holiday.
Glentoran will again have to contend without several key players as they prepare to continue their Europa League adventure tomorrow evening against FC Vorksla Poltova of the Ukraine.
yep your right, full team, appologies to the Ukranians and congrats on their stunning win against such magnificant opposition. Doesnt look good for Sligo Rovers after all. Hopefully they will still have a chance in the league and hey if they just forfeit they could save themselves from embarassment and financial ruin. Still my comments of admiration twoards the Sligo Rovers fans stand and considering they have possibly the smallest population catchment area in the PD they can well be described as the leagues best.
legendz
18/07/2011, 6:40 PM
Good luck to Shamrock Rovers tomorrow night! I think they'll get through. Prediction: 1-1 draw.
mypost
18/07/2011, 6:42 PM
Sligo Rovers considering they have possibly the smallest population catchment area in the PD.
:shock:
All of Sligo, All of Mayo, All of Leitrim, Arguably some of South Donegal, and Half of Roscommon.
That not big enough?
harleyleeds
18/07/2011, 6:54 PM
Good luck to Shamrock Rovers tomorrow night! I think they'll get through. Prediction: 1-1 draw.
I will certainly be hoping they get through.
:shock:
All of Sligo, All of Mayo, All of Leitrim, Arguably some of South Donegal, and Half of Roscommon.
That not big enough?
Ah here, that argument just doesn't stand up. Be honest about it. I'm not saying Harleyleeds is right but think of the population densities in the catchments you mention and the difference then to Tallaght, Derry, Cork or Galway.
Bit different travelling to a game from Castlebar to Sligo than from, say, dundrum to Tallaght.
I'm not saying Harleyleeds is right but think of the population densities in the catchments you mention and the difference then to Tallaght, Derry, Cork or Galway.
In fairness Mayo has some of the densest population in the country.
:shock:
All of Sligo, All of Mayo, All of Leitrim, Arguably some of South Donegal, and Half of Roscommon.
That not big enough?
Is there anyone in Roscommon?
Is there anything in Roscommon?
cornflakes
18/07/2011, 8:06 PM
Is there anything in Roscommon?
Think they have a really good hospital, people are always going on about it
Ezeikial
18/07/2011, 9:01 PM
dundrum to Tallaght.
Is there a direct bus from Dundrum?
Charlie Darwin
18/07/2011, 9:05 PM
Yeah, the seventy-fi... hey!
paul_oshea
18/07/2011, 9:36 PM
In fairness Mayo has some of the densest population in the country.
brilliant couldn't have put it better.straight to the point
paul_oshea
18/07/2011, 9:37 PM
Is there anyone in Roscommon?
Is there anything in Roscommon?
yes
erm kind of.
yes
erm kind of.
Rockfords!
The Lilywhites
18/07/2011, 10:07 PM
Not sure if it was posted here yet but Rovers game is on Setanta Ireland tomorrow from 4.30. 4.45 kick off.
harleyleeds
18/07/2011, 10:17 PM
:shock:
All of Sligo, All of Mayo, All of Leitrim, Arguably some of South Donegal, and Half of Roscommon.
That not big enough?
This would be great and I wonder if there would be some way of luring them in. Probably a name change would be necessary, NW ROVERS or something that would allow them to cross county boundries. Colours are good cos non county. This could provide a population of maybe 250000. 100000 seat stadium, biggest club in country. All joking aside they should try to encourage more outside county fans , would be a very good thing. If they could win the league then encourage the schoolkids.
harleyleeds
18/07/2011, 10:19 PM
Not sure if it was posted here yet but Rovers game is on Setanta Ireland tomorrow from 4.30. 4.45 kick off.
Think it would be streamed perchance?
born2bwild
18/07/2011, 10:33 PM
Maybe: http://livetv.ru/en/eventinfo/80257_flora_shamrock_rovers/
Charlie Darwin
18/07/2011, 10:34 PM
It will almost certainly be streamed.
TheBoss
19/07/2011, 1:01 AM
If you have eircom as your internet provider, you can get it here:
http://eircomsports.eircom.net/Setanta
mypost
19/07/2011, 4:22 AM
This would be great and I wonder if there would be some way of luring them in. Probably a name change would be necessary, NW ROVERS or something that would allow them to cross county boundries. Colours are good cos non county. This could provide a population of maybe 250000. 100000 seat stadium, biggest club in country.
Drop the Rovers bit, and call it "Connacht United". With 250,000 people based in it's "smallest catchment area", it appeals to almost everyone in the region.
Charlie Darwin
19/07/2011, 5:27 AM
All this talk of catchment areas neglects the fact that all clubs are fighting a losing battle with Manchester United and Liverpool. Sligo do brilliant for a town of 20,000 people.
BonnieShels
19/07/2011, 9:14 AM
Drop the Rovers bit, and call it "Connacht United". With 250,000 people based in it's "smallest catchment area", it appeals to almost everyone in the region.
That's so small minded. Where's your ambition?
Even Termonbarry can support 4 of the largest clubs in the country.
Rasputin
19/07/2011, 9:33 AM
:shock:
All of Sligo, All of Mayo, All of Leitrim, Arguably some of South Donegal, and Half of Roscommon.
That not big enough?
Ohh jesus.
From the makers of "no direct bus from Tallaght to Phibsborough" and "real fans from sligo would fly to Dublin" we now have why people from mayo, donegal, roscommon and leitrim should support a team based in Sligo Town.
Mypost you are a credit to humanity.
Also go easy on harleyleeds since he is clearly a sockpuppet.
paul_oshea
19/07/2011, 10:58 AM
Rockfords!
I was only there Sunday night. The reason for missing my flight and a days pay as a contractor.
Looking at those goals against Pats, reminds me of how I have always thought our football teams(clubs and international) have always been made up of midgets...or at least though who wouldn't be considered average sized males at home. Those kazaks almost look like giants against some of them....:)
That must be a worry for Pats on the home game, set pieces, corners/free kicks etc. Not that they are midgets i mean. Looks like they are dangerous in this area, especially given the height difference.
Looking at that video also reminded me of looking at something from 80's esque soviet-russia.
Kingdom
19/07/2011, 10:59 AM
I see this is Mannus' last game for Rovers as he leaves for St Johnstone.
Why is he leaving for St Johnstone?
harleyleeds
19/07/2011, 11:05 AM
Ohh jesus.
From the makers of "no direct bus from Tallaght to Phibsborough" and "real fans from sligo would fly to Dublin" we now have why people from mayo, donegal, roscommon and leitrim should support a team based in Sligo Town.
Mypost you are a credit to humanity.
Also go easy on harleyleeds since he is clearly a sockpuppet.
Mypost is just wumming.
his reaction was to my comment which said:-
"Still my comments of admiration twoards the Sligo Rovers fans stand and considering they have possibly the smallest population catchment area in the PD they can well be described as the leagues best. "
This of course has exceptions and you would be top of that list.
No danger you were up in the Showgies helping them prepare for the euro game , to busy trying to put people down to make yourself feel better .
Go offer your help and youll find the world a better place as all your nastiness flows away.
paul_oshea
19/07/2011, 11:05 AM
More money?
legendz
19/07/2011, 11:10 AM
I see this is Mannus' last game for Rovers as he leaves for St Johnstone.
Why is he leaving for St Johnstone?
Money and possibly a longer than 42 week contract?
Dodge
19/07/2011, 11:14 AM
There's no real comparison between the footballing infrastructure in Ireland and Scotland. Better grounds, bigger crowds, probably bigger wages and the fact it mightn't hurt his international chances are a bonus
Kingdom
19/07/2011, 11:26 AM
There's no real comparison between the footballing infrastructure in Ireland and Scotland. Better grounds, bigger crowds, probably bigger wages and the fact it mightn't hurt his international chances are a bonus
Thanks Dodge, I know there isn't a comparison infrastructure wise, but I'm still surprised.
Rovers at the top here, and should be for a good time to come, and with probably constant European football, why move when he's approaching 30
Certain to return to the starting line-up...will be goalkeeper Alan Mannus. O’Neill confirmed following the game Mannus will leave Rovers for SPL side St Johnstone. “It will be Alan’s last game,” said O’Neill. ...His level of professionalism is outstanding. It is not a financial decision. He is prepared to go there for less money. It is his last chance to break into a full-time set-up and into the SPL, a league with a higher profile than our own.”
But St Johnstone??? maybe it is the International he's thinking of, but surely he's going to be behind Camp now anyway?
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