LOI in Europe 2011

[PartySaint]

Zilina, who I think were in the CL group stage last year,currently getting spanked 3-0 by the Icelandic Team KR

Yep, which means we could be going back to Iceland

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

would Rovers want someone with a reasonable chance of progression like Glentoran or a big draw like Stoke? Or something in between like Hearts?

Bohs and Pats prospects pretty similar. Some decent trips, some decent teams plus some nightmare trips.

Well our game at home is sold out already so we're better off getting the 'easiest' game we can get. Unless RTE decided to televise our game if we got Stoke seeing as it's an English team but would rather get through to the next round

[abcd]

Have the teams been grouped for tomorrow (narrowed down to 5/6 possible opponents?). It'll be interesting to see who Sligo get. Hopefully its a winnable tie. Really, Sligo should have no problems packing the Showgrounds for the home game regardless of opposition.

Shamrock Rovers tie could be huge, can't look beyond Flora yet but if they get through that, there are a couple of teams they could turnover among the seeded sides.

[Charlie Darwin]

it will be a tough one in Dalymount next week but hopefully Fenlon will have the shackles off and we can give them a game.

Taking Fagan off was a disaster and putting Traynor in there was questionable too.
Yeah, I thought the subs were odd. Is Murphy out of the team because he's not playing well or because Fagan is better? He absolutely tore us apart on his own at Dalymount earlier in the year. Rossiter was a different class when he came on.


Well our game at home is sold out already so we're better off getting the 'easiest' game we can get. Unless RTE decided to televise our game if we got Stoke seeing as it's an English team but would rather get through to the next round
Forget RTE, Sky would show it.

[sligoman]

Anyone think we'd have any chance against any of the teams in our pot? Don't know anything about Poltava (bet Glentoran 2-0 away tonight) or Famagusta (bet the Georgians 3-0 at home) enough to know if we've any realistic chance.

[sheao]

Pats are in with a shout with the away goal and they will take confidance from the face they overturned a goal defecit in the last round aswell .

Bohs look like they face too much to do if they want to turn the tie around .

[dfx-]

Brennan's the only Bohs player who can really mix it technically with this lot. He'll be key to any fightback next week.

Thankfully he's windy, so we're safe on that front.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Anyone think we'd have any chance against any of the teams in our pot? Don't know anything about Poltava (bet Glentoran 2-0 away tonight) or Famagusta (bet the Georgians 3-0 at home) enough to know if we've any realistic chance.

Famagusta were in the Champions League group stages a couple of years ago. I remember them drawing with Inter 3-3. Not sure if that was the year Inter went on to win it. Don't think we'd want them

Hearts or Poltava are the teams I hope we get.

[Hibs4Ever]

Famagusta were in the Champions League group stages a couple of years ago. I remember them drawing with Inter 3-3. Not sure if that was the year Inter went on to win it. Don't think we'd want them


Zilina were in the CL group stages last year, and got hammered in Iceland last night!

[Dodge]

Have the teams been grouped for tomorrow (narrowed down to 5/6 possible opponents?). It'll be interesting to see who Sligo get. Hopefully its a winnable tie. Really, Sligo should have no problems packing the Showgrounds for the home game regardless of opposition.

Sligo can get one of;
AC Sparta Praha (CZE),
Stoke City FC (ENG),
Anorthosis Famagusta FC (CYP)/FC Gagra (GEO) - Famagusta won 3-0 at home
Glentoran FC (NIR)/FC Vorskla Poltava (UKR) - Vorskla won 2-0 in Belfast
Heart of Midlothian FC (SCO)

Pats can get one of;
US Città di Palermo (ITA),
FC Dinamo Bucureşti (ROU),
KR Reykjavík (ISL)/MŠK Žilina (SVK) - KR won 3-0 at home
FC Karpaty Lviv (UKR),
FC Tauras (LTU)/ADO Den Haag (NED) - Den haag won 3-2 away

Bohs can get;
AZ Alkmaar (NED),
FK Rudar Pljevlja (MNE)/FK Austria Wien (AUT) – Vienna won 3-0 away
Bursaspor (TUR),
FK Željezničar (BIH)/FC Sheriff (MDA) – Bosnians won 1-0 at home
FK Sūduva (LTU)/IF Elfsborg (SWE) – drew 1-1 in Lithuania



Shamrock Rovers tie could be huge, can't look beyond Flora yet but if they get through that, there are a couple of teams they could turnover among the seeded sides.
Rovers can get one of;
FC København (DEN),
Maccabi Haifa FC (ISR)/FK Borac Banja Luka (BIH) - Maccabi won 5-1 at home
NK Dinamo Zagreb (CRO)/Neftçi PFK (AZE), - Zagreb won 3-0 at home
KS Skënderbeu (ALB)/APOEL FC (CYP), - APOEL won 2-0 away
Skonto FC (LVA)/Wisła Kraków (POL) – Wisla won 1-0 away

IN terms of progression, the best hope for Sligo is probably Hearts, for Pats is KR, for Bohs is Sheriss/Suduva/Elsborg. Obviously Pats and Bohs have a lot of work to do.

Best for Rovers would be Wisla, but they wouldn’t be favourites in any of those ties

Anyone but the Ukrainians will do me

[londonhoop]

Yeah, I thought the subs were odd. Is Murphy out of the team because he's not playing well or because Fagan is better? He absolutely tore us apart on his own at Dalymount earlier in the year. Rossiter was a different class when he came on.


Forget RTE, Sky would show it.

Sky do not hold any EL rights.Only CL, ESPN could pick it up.

[Dodge]

Sky do not hold any EL rights.Only CL, ESPN could pick it up.

There's no rights for qualifying games. Any channel can show any game (eg RTE showing Rovers/Juventus last year)

[Dodge]

Think thats the hardest Draw for ROvers; Copenhagen. They were in group stages last year

[marinobohs]

it will be a tough one in Dalymount next week but hopefully Fenlon will have the shackles off and we can give them a game.

Taking Fagan off was a disaster and putting Traynor in there was questionable too.

Hmmmmm Nutsey going defencive in european match, if at first it does not work do the same again and again and.......:confused: very difficult to get back into this one in second leg from 2-0 down, have to hope (3 Hail Marys) for an early goal. Whatever happens we MUST have a go at them at Dalymount - two up front (Git and Bisto) and try and drag ourselves back into it.

While they had some nice players technically they were far from great. Conceeding two from set pieces was frustrating - although over 90 mins they were worth win. At 0-2 there is no point in Bohs playing cagey in second leg, so give it a lash Nutsey

[ifk101]

Copenhagen is a very tough draw. Financially they are in a different league to every other team in Scandinavia, let alone Denmark.

[marinobohs]

Think thats the hardest Draw for ROvers; Copenhagen. They were in group stages last year

Great trip for shams supporters but very tough draw on the pitch :). Should attract a decent crowd to Tallaght and logistically decent enough away trip for the club, so moneywise could be OK (always a big factor for LOI clubs)

[Dodge]

Watched the Bohs game. They got what they deserved unfortunately. Poor Fagan had little or no support. Going to be really hard for Bohs to get through. Have they scored 3 times in any game this year (I think their goals for is even worse at home for some mad reason)?

By all accounts Pats were well in the game in Khazakhstan. Will be tough, but certainly in the tie.

Now all we need is a favour from Platini for the next round ;)

[paul_oshea]

is the UEFA Europa draw at 12 or 12.30?

Any game ive watched in Europe where pat fenlon is/mas manager they always sat back against the higher seeded teams and inevitably eventually conceded, sometimes though like hadjuk split it paid off when they got them home, but then other times you think JFDI(go for it).

That seems like the worst draw for rovers.

Didn't copenhagen push chelsea to a draw last year, or very nearly i think?! Yes they did but i thought it was home http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/9424170.stm

[Dodge]

Europa Draw is 12.30

Even v Split, Shels were blessed in that game. Dave-bleeding-Rogers with probably the only decent shot of his career (and in fairness it was a cracker) in the dying minutes

[paul_oshea]

cheers.

ya 2 goals in the last 10 minutes or so wasn't it? But sometimes you need luck as in fairness LOI teams generally don't seem to have much of that in EUrope.

Fenlons approach is so much like Traps playing away from home, extremely negative and boring to watch. The difference obviously being that relatively speaking(opposition and the Irish team) Trap has a far better defensive line than fenlon has/had...

[harleyleeds]

Anyone think we'd have any chance against any of the teams in our pot? Don't know anything about Poltava (bet Glentoran 2-0 away tonight) or Famagusta (bet the Georgians 3-0 at home) enough to know if we've any realistic chance.

Glentoran's opponents Vorskla Poltava in cash probe


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Glentoran's Europa League opponents Vorskla Poltava WILL travel to Belfast today to fulfil their second qualifying round first leg fixture tomorrow night, despite having their stadium's offices raided by Ukrainian authorities on Monday.
It has been reported in Ukraine that computers at the Butovsky Memorial Vorskla Stadium were seized as part of investigations into the financial dealings of Vorskla owner and honorary president Kostyantin Zhevago, a high-profile billionaire businessman and the CEO of the Finances and Credit company, one of Ukraine's biggest groups.
He is also, according to Forbes, the 828th richest person in the world.
The raids threw into doubt the club's plans to fly into Northern Ireland for the European tie, and should they have failed to turn up it was possible that Glentoran would have been given a lucrative bye into the next round of the competition.
At the very least, Glentoran could have been going into the second leg with a head start having been awarded a win for the first.
European football's governing body, Uefa, were unaware of the raid until the Belfast Telegraph contacted them yesterday, and they later released a statement which said: "According to the Football Federation of Ukraine, the FC Vorskla Poltava have given guarantees that they will play both games against Glentoran. Based on this, we can confirm that these matches should take place as scheduled."




Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/local/glentorans-opponents-in-cash-probe-16022617.html#ixzz1SAjQ3abw

[cornflakes]

Linfield got a decent draw, if they can get past BATE of course, they'l play either Ekranas or Valletta. The score stands at 3-2 to Ekranas after the first leg in Malta

[Straightstory]

Rovers very unlucky with that draw. At least a pleasant, manageable away trip...

[Straightstory]

If they get into the round, of course...

[thischarmingman]

Pats to play FC Karpaty Lviv of Ukraine.

Cheapest beer I ever bought was in L'viv- the equivalent of 9c. It's an amazing place.

[Straightstory]

Sligo v Glentoran or Glentoran's dodgy opponents (see above)...

[SwanVsDalton]

Sligo almost got Hearts too. That would've been great.

[Real ale Madrid]

Tough Draws every step of the way this year in Europe.

[Acornvilla]

so who got who?

could it be compiled into one post i mean, the whole draws of both comps :)

please and thanks

[ger121]

Pats to play FC Karpaty Lviv of Ukraine.

Cheapest beer I ever bought was in L'viv- the equivalent of 9c. It's an amazing place.

I remember thinking last night Pats would get them. Just need to win the 2nd leg now and go through

[harleyleeds]

Sligo v Glentoran or Glentoran's dodgy opponents (see above)...

Quite happy about that , ****er for travel but I feel its a winnable tie and thats whats important. Glad to be away first too. Wish I could make the Showgies as last euro game there for me was Red Star .

[ger121]

Am I right in thinking that Pats and Sligo both got Ukrainian sides?

[paul_oshea]

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2011/0715/europaleague.html

I like the attitude of all concerned at Sligo, that its about winning and getting through to the next round rather than the more amateurish, negative get a big team. Plenty of time to get big teams if you keep progressing.

Hopefully that attitude carries onto the pitch and pays off and they get through to the next round.

[Straightstory]

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2011/0715/europaleague.html

I like the attitude of all concerned at Sligo, that its about winning and getting through to the next round rather than the more amateurish, negative get a big team. Plenty of time to get big teams if you keep progressing.

Hopefully that attitude carries onto the pitch and pays off and they get through to the next round.

Re. that RTE report: Aren't Glentoran way in the second leg? And it's The Oval, not 'Oval Park'. (I remember a great report from there once: 'And it's all square at the Oval'...

[Straightstory]

I mean 'away' in the second leg. (We all make mistakes....)

[Doomofman]

Am I right in thinking that Pats and Sligo both got Ukrainian sides?

Indeed.. If we manage to get past the Kazahks we should be heading to Ukraine at the same time as Sligo... Unless one of the ties ends up getting reverse

[PartySaint]

I hate UEFA:(

[Spudulika]

I hope Bohs can turn their tie around as they have good opponents in the next round, while the 2 Ukranian sides are beatable for Sligo and Pats. I'd love to see all clubs go through (not forgetting Rovers of course).

[PartySaint]

Ukrainian sides are not beatable, IF we get there both us and Sligo will be beaten comfortably

[harleyleeds]

Ukrainian sides are not beatable, IF we get there both us and Sligo will be beaten comfortably

Speak for yourself I feel Rovers can certainly get a result away and win it at the Showgrounds. Curious to know why you feel that a team that can only get a 2-0 win against a makeshift team (most on holidays) will walk all over Sligo Rovers with such ease.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Ukrainian sides are not beatable, IF we get there both us and Sligo will be beaten comfortably

Is that you Pete?

[pateen]

Ukrainian sides are not beatable, IF we get there both us and Sligo will be beaten comfortably

Sure didnt drogs nearly two a few seaons ago.
Then again 'nearly' never bulled a cow

[paul_oshea]

Re. that RTE report: Aren't Glentoran way in the second leg? And it's The Oval, not 'Oval Park'. (I remember a great report from there once: 'And it's all square at the Oval'...

Ya i remember reading another article on the(independent i think) site from james mcmahon and spotting something was wrong as well, about on of the LOI teams but i cant remember which article :( I don't even know why i remember that name.

[paul_oshea]

Sure didnt drogs nearly two a few seaons ago.
Then again 'nearly' never bulled a cow

Ya but they had two clear chances at the end one that went right over the bar, and no excuses, its like they get into the position and like a schoolboy get over excited and ejaculate prematurely.

Was it robinson that hit it over the bar, he def had a chance earlier on if it wasn't him who hit it over the bar, i remember watching thinking how the fcuk did he miss that. Though they should have been 1-3 in that anyway.

[ger121]

Ukrainian sides are not beatable, IF we get there both us and Sligo will be beaten comfortably

I'm sure you would have thought the same thing about Russian sides and we all remember what happened there:)

[pateen]

Just seen there that the two Ukrainian cities are miles apart from each other, should both teams be there the same week.
Still, it should bring a few Ukrainian babes into Sligo/Inchicore area for the home legs :)

[PartySaint]

I'm sure you would have thought the same thing about Russian sides and we all remember what happened there:)

Yeah the mad *******s were bringing crates of Guinness into their dressing room before the game:) We got very very lucky against them

Harleyleeds, They beat Glentoran 2-0 away, They probably never left first gear (I didn't see any of the game so I don't no) and they will probably spank them 4 or 5 at home

I really hope I'm wrong but I don't see either Pats or Sligo getting through if we both get to play the Ukrainian teams

[DannyInvincible]

Some very tough draws. At least if Rovers get through, they'll be guaranteed a crack at the Europa League group stages if Copenhagan prove too much.


http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2011/0715/europaleague.html

I like the attitude of all concerned at Sligo, that its about winning and getting through to the next round rather than the more amateurish, negative get a big team. Plenty of time to get big teams if you keep progressing.

Hopefully that attitude carries onto the pitch and pays off and they get through to the next round.

Too right. The thing is, European ties will always draw a larger crowd than the usual at league games regardless of opponent. The publicity of a "big tie" might increase a club's exposure in the national media for a week, but it does nothing in the long-term. Nobody cares after that. Where did all those Shels "fans" go that filled Lansdowne for the Deportivo game a few years ago, for example? What good did that ever do Shels?


I remember thinking last night Pats would get them. Just need to win the 2nd leg now and go through

Was always going to be them. They were the farthest team from Dublin in Pats' draw, after all.

[Straightstory]

Ukrainian sides are not beatable, IF we get there both us and Sligo will be beaten comfortably
That's the attitude! It's this kind of positive thinking which makes following the League of Ireland such a consistent joy!

[DaveyCakes]

If Pats get through, what would be the feasibility of jointly chartering a flight?..They could drop Pats off in Lvov and then head on to Poltava with Sligo :-)