Limerick Premier Division 2007/08 [Archive] - Page 61

mulla

15/05/2008, 9:17 AM

prob been said before but what about summer leagues. i mean with so many games called off during the season the way it is its hard on players to remain fully fit. even with training. same season as league of ireland.
dont they play that way in mayo or someplace

ya would be a good idea alright,have to agree about the quality of some of the pitches in the city,they are brutal regardless of the weather,ours(batemen)is a prime example

whitestripe

15/05/2008, 9:19 AM

Cut the premier league to 10 teams
Set a minimum pitch standard / club facility standard
Linesmen at games
Play on Saturdays - recover Sundays

mulla

15/05/2008, 9:21 AM

Cut the premier league to 10 teams
Set a minimum pitch standard / club facility standard
Linesmen at games
Play on Saturdays - recover Sundays

great if the ldmc went along with it
only the premier?

whitestripe

15/05/2008, 9:29 AM

ya would be a good idea alright,have to agree about the quality of some of the pitches in the city,they are brutal regardless of the weather,ours(batemen)is a prime example

If pitches were rolled more often it would make for a better game, I am sure people watching games on a Sunday would like to see a few more passess put together rather than the kick and chase game that players are forced to play due to the condition of some pitches.

Set a standard for pitches and facilities and enforce these standards, its a win win for clubs that are willing to meet it. better game to watch = improved gate takings?

superhero

15/05/2008, 9:51 AM

Cut the premier league to 10 teams
Set a minimum pitch standard / club facility standard
Linesmen at games
Play on Saturdays - recover Sundays

Great plan, but the good old LDMC are not the greatest organisation in the world to listen not to mention follow up on a good idea, muppets!!
Good idea though!

whitestripe

15/05/2008, 10:22 AM

Just to offer a counter arguement

League cut to 10 - clubs struggling might strongly object, knoock on effect through the leagues

games played on a Sunday because people work Sat and the matches would clash with Rugby in the city?

Clubs can request linesman at games but they need to be paid?

In fairness clubs are trying to improve their facilities and pitch standards and they have got better over the years. But its few in each club that are doing the work of many, a thankless task in many respects.

whitestripe

15/05/2008, 10:25 AM

great if the ldmc went along with it
only the premier?

Don't see why it should only apply to the premier league, but its probably the best starting point as clubs involved in this league tend to be more organised.

Noddy

15/05/2008, 10:50 AM

lifegoeson

15/05/2008, 10:53 AM

ya would be a good idea alright,have to agree about the quality of some of the pitches in the city,they are brutal regardless of the weather,ours(batemen)is a prime example

it kinda goes against clubs at the moment. with clubs spending alot of money on thier pitches over the summer to be ready for winter and it only takes one game and the pitch is nackered for months on end. summer league would attract more people to games, involve more kids, become more popular with existing players.

lifegoeson

15/05/2008, 10:55 AM

Cut the premier league to 10 teams
Set a minimum pitch standard / club facility standard
Linesmen at games
Play on Saturdays - recover Sundays

only problem here is, its bloody hard enough to get the ref's to show up as is never mind relying on two extra lines men :)

abbeyvale

15/05/2008, 10:56 AM

I have to agree. For how many years now have we seen no improvements on how the league is run.The standard of the football is deteriorating every year. Things I would like to see improved are:
Premier league games to kick off at 11.30 at the earliest. (For the sake of an hour alot more people would go to these games)
Good point above too about there should be a standard for pitches/facilities for the top division.
The situation with the oscar traynor team has been a disgrace for the past few seasons and has never been dealt with.

I agree with maybe a noon kick off for all Junior games on a Sunday.
Not only does it give the players rest on one of their days off work, but would also encourage more supporters, rather than having to go and watch a game at 10.30 on a Sunday morning.

Just imagine, players meeting at 10.45/11.00 for a 12 kick off, and supporters strolling along at 12 for the game............perfect.

And I'm sure the refs would like it too, but it would alomost put an end to most of the 2.30 Sunday kick off's (as some refs that do a 10.30 game often also do a 2.30 game at the moment on Sunday's) unless the 2.30 kick off became a 3/3.30pm kick off......

lifegoeson

15/05/2008, 10:59 AM

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Just imagine, players meeting at 10.45/11.00 for a 12 kick off, and supporters strolling along at 12 for the game............perfect.

And I'm sure the refs would like it too, but it would alomost put an end to most of the 2.30 Sunday kick off's (as some refs that do a 10.30 game often also do a 2.30 game at the moment on Sunday's) unless the 2.30 kick off became a 3/3.30pm kick off......

in dublin dont they play the lower league games on a sat instead on sunday afternoon could be an option in limerick

Noddy

15/05/2008, 11:19 AM

I agree with maybe a noon kick off for all Junior games on a Sunday.
Not only does it give the players rest on one of their days off work, but would also encourage more supporters, rather than having to go and watch a game at 10.30 on a Sunday morning.

Just imagine, players meeting at 10.45/11.00 for a 12 kick off, and supporters strolling along at 12 for the game............perfect.

And I'm sure the refs would like it too, but it would alomost put an end to most of the 2.30 Sunday kick off's (as some refs that do a 10.30 game often also do a 2.30 game at the moment on Sunday's) unless the 2.30 kick off became a 3/3.30pm kick off......

For the sake of an hour it would make a big difference

abbeyvale

15/05/2008, 12:00 PM

For the sake of an hour it would make a big difference

I agree, but the LDMC unfortunatly have the last say, and they dont like CHANGE.

Philbert

15/05/2008, 12:35 PM

Probably just as well balla B cant get promoted.
2 league trips to Bateman every season would be harsh on anyone

Philbert

15/05/2008, 12:40 PM

Cut the premier league to 10 teams
Set a minimum pitch standard / club facility standard
Linesmen at games
Play on Saturdays - recover Sundays

The pitch idea is good. How would you go about setting this "club facility standard". If a team without adequate facilites got promoted, would they then be told "sorry lads, your clubhouse is'nt up to the standard, back down ye go"

abbeyvale

15/05/2008, 1:02 PM

best of luck tonight to alan and all the star lads,would be sad to see a great junior club like star out of the premier again

Cheers, Its a long shot for us to stay up at this stage, but sure we'll see how it goes.

abbeyvale

15/05/2008, 1:02 PM

Jock MIB

15/05/2008, 1:15 PM

I think thats very true, its the handful who have the interest of the club at heart, to blame the ldmc is a bit off the mark though every club should strive to have the same set up as the boro's pike's and fairviews of this town. Too many clubs dont have the drive and ambition

wont be too bad if you get killmallock away in the first couple of weeks of the season, hate to be going out there on a wet day in feb.

oh you mean like KIlmallock , Herbertstown and Charleville who actually have very good facilities up to these premier standards. Also when they build a new changing area Newport will be one of the best places to play in next couple of years. But thats right you wont have the DRIVE OR THE AMBITION to go out to these County Teams

Philbert

15/05/2008, 1:25 PM

But thats right you wont have the DRIVE OR THE AMBITION to go out to these County Teams

No disrespect, but i dont think it has to do with drive and ambition. Not many enjoy travelling out there regardless of how good the team is

Dirk Diggler

15/05/2008, 1:25 PM

Lads putting the start of games back an hour is a great idea. I've being saying it for years. people don't go to these early morning games.

whitestripe

15/05/2008, 1:48 PM

The pitch idea is good. How would you go about setting this "club facility standard". If a team without adequate facilites got promoted, would they then be told "sorry lads, your clubhouse is'nt up to the standard, back down ye go"

Not meaning to be flippant but yes would be my answer.

gaidin

15/05/2008, 1:55 PM

Not meaning to be flippant but yes would be my answer.

Id agree with that.Every club would know before the start of the season that their facilities need to be up to scratch to be promoted to the premier.

However, this could also destroy some clubs. Take Balla for example, would they pass the facilities standard with bateman as their pitch and no dressing rrooms out there.

Also teams in 1A could lose a lot of players if they knew they had no chance of promotion due to facilities.

Its a good idea but maybe if all clubs were given something like 3 years to improve their facilities before the rule came into existance. Just a thought.

whitestripe

15/05/2008, 1:57 PM

Or money!!!

Nothing stopping any Club fundraising or seeking sponsorship, The GAA and Rugdy Clubs have it down to a fine art and as far as I am aware football clubs in Limerick provide an invaluable resourse to their local community and should be supported equally.

This is where the clubs drive and ambition should be focused if they want to improve, Clubs that lack this drive to improve the lot of football in the City should not be rewarded with being able to play at a level that is the benchmark for junior football in the city and county.

whitestripe

15/05/2008, 2:01 PM

Id agree with that.Every club would know before the start of the season that their facilities need to be up to scratch to be promoted to the premier.

However, this could also destroy some clubs. Take Balla for example, would they pass the facilities standard with bateman as their pitch and no dressing rrooms out there.

Also teams in 1A could lose a lot of players if they knew they had no chance of promotion due to facilities.

Its a good idea but maybe if all clubs were given something like 3 years to improve their facilities before the rule came into existance. Just a thought.

It would have to be implemented over a period of time for sure,

Philbert

15/05/2008, 2:22 PM

Sorry lads but a rule like that is never going to happen

whitestripe

15/05/2008, 2:26 PM

Probably not, the wheels of change grind very slow in football circles. Still progress is being made and this has to be recognised also.

Philbert

15/05/2008, 2:43 PM

To be honest i'd be alot more concerned about improving the actual football being played than improving any clubhouse/facilities around Limerick.

Abbey Road

15/05/2008, 2:52 PM

Probably not, the wheels of change grind very slow in football circles. Still progress is being made and this has to be recognised also.

You should apply for a role on the LDMC commitee to help bring about the changes mentioned!How would you feel about that,Whitestripe??

whitestripe

15/05/2008, 2:54 PM

Its easier to play football on a pitch when you have a fair idea of how the ball will bounce, I am sure anyone playing would agree with that. Improve this and the football should be more pleasing on the eye.

The bigger picture involves adopting models like that of the Netherlands.

whitestripe

15/05/2008, 3:00 PM

You should apply for a role on the LDMC commitee to help bring about the changes mentioned!How would you feel about that,Whitestripe??

Sure why not, first rule would be every club has to wear white socks..

the hoops

15/05/2008, 3:02 PM

lads i said at the stART star wud finish bottom and i was right they just dont have the interest otherwise they wud have been well capable of staying up

whitestripe

15/05/2008, 3:04 PM

Thats a bit harsh

Philbert

15/05/2008, 3:08 PM

I wasnt talking about the pitch. Thats fundamental to the quality of football
I'm saying that a clubhouse shouldnt be used as an excuse for poor lovels of passing/ technique etc.
It would be great if every club worked on getting better facilities etc.

Good point rasied about the gate receipts/membership/lottos and sponsorships. It would be interesing to see how this money is managed in most clubs.
Abbey will remember an incident down in Star a few years back with a certian manager using the money elsewhere, shall we say???;)

whitestripe

15/05/2008, 3:13 PM

shall we say???;)[/QUOTE]

Lets not

Philbert

15/05/2008, 3:43 PM

Thats probably best.

Balla could win the league, Lawson and Munster junior this season?

Their B team would prob give life in the premier a good shot too

lifegoeson

15/05/2008, 3:44 PM

lads i said at the stART star wud finish bottom and i was right they just dont have the interest otherwise they wud have been well capable of staying up

seems to be true.........players follow leadership. :(

lifegoeson

15/05/2008, 3:45 PM

Good point rasied about the gate receipts/membership/lottos and sponsorships. It would be interesing to see how this money is managed in most clubs.
Abbey will remember an incident down in Star a few years back with a certian manager using the money elsewhere, shall we say???;)

abbey would not have been around for that episode

lifegoeson

15/05/2008, 3:47 PM

Thats probably best.

Balla could win the league, Lawson and Munster junior this season?

Their B team would prob give life in the premier a good shot too

why are balla b team not left play prem end the day if they take second place then they are promoted. did fairview not have 2 teams in one division 1b or something.

halo16

15/05/2008, 4:12 PM

Never understood why Corbally havnt been more succesful. Great faciliteis up there and they have had alot of good players in the past too.

from watching afew of there games this season ive afew theories.there a handy team with afew handy players but i think the reasons there down the bottom of the league is as follows.
1.great facilities but a poor pitch which must be the most bobbly in town.they get plenty of chances but most end up hitting the corner flag as the ball just bobbles everywhere.
2.this is in my opinion the main reason corbally arent doing great.as far as i know they dont train,havent for weeks and just turn up for games.there grand for an hour and just calve in the last 20 mins cause they aint fit enough,results against regionel and fairview recently will back up this theory,held there own for a good period in both games.
3.alot of players have left them for janesboro.but as a previous post mentioned,boro are in a very precarious position.imo if o hanlon gets the boot from boro they will struggle to get a team out next season.after all he signed all them players from corbally and further a field.will be interesting to see what happens in preseason

Philbert

15/05/2008, 4:23 PM

why are balla b team not left play prem end the day if they take second place then they are promoted. did fairview not have 2 teams in one division 1b or something.

Its the club's own policy not to allow the B team in the Prem as far as i know. And to be honest I cant really blame them.
Too many problems with it i think

Roadend

15/05/2008, 4:26 PM

from watching afew of there games this season ive afew theories.there a handy team with afew handy players but i think the reasons there down the bottom of the league is as follows.
1.great facilities but a poor pitch which must be the most bobbly in town.they get plenty of chances but most end up hitting the corner flag as the ball just bobbles everywhere.

Spot on about the pitch, unfortunately with 3 junior teams and 20+ schoolboy teams the pitch(es) take a hammering.

Philbert

15/05/2008, 4:32 PM

Thats what the bottom pitch was initially built for, to have the underage games and that.
That used to be a fine pitch about five years ago. Great facilities up there though in fairness

see's it

15/05/2008, 8:13 PM

Thats what the bottom pitch was initially built for, to have the underage games and that.
That used to be a fine pitch about five years ago. Great facilities up there though in fairness

they were losing 3 nil tonight ,what did it finish?

Green_Hoop

15/05/2008, 8:13 PM

Its the club's own policy not to allow the B team in the Prem as far as i know. And to be honest I cant really blame them.
Too many problems with it i think

Would be some sticky situations if Balla A had to play Balla B for the title...

Anyway Pike 4- Corbally 0 ,As has been said above,close for the opening 30-35 minutes Pike got a goal before half time(John Boyle),then one directly after the restart,after that Corbally died of death towards the end with a screamer from Davy O'Grady.

Pat Sheehan was saying that Balla have no game next thursday night,which will make them 5 games behind Pike,and that Balla can get Pike's last game held up until they have to play their last game.. A joke if you ask me.

kingofkillteely

15/05/2008, 8:54 PM

[QUOTE=Green_Hoop;942971]Would be some sticky situations if Balla A had to play Balla B for the title...

No problem at all. They play twice at the start of the season and it's finished with then. Fairview B and C in 1b about 5 years ago and Mungret B and C in 4a last year are examples. Why should the B team play 1a next year if they get promoted? Whats the point?

halo16

15/05/2008, 9:12 PM

i see pike beat corbally tonight. anybody know how the other games went?star v aisling?granville v regional?did star get relegated or are they still hanging in there?

abbeyvale

15/05/2008, 9:42 PM

aisling beat star 6 4 star trailed one nil and two one but they lead 4 2 at one stage before collapsing...
regional beat granville 4 0
fairview lead wembley 3 1 didnt get a final score

Aisling 5-4 Star,
Aisling were 1 up after 10mins, and Star equalized on 30mins, only for Aisling to go 2-1 up just before the break through a peno.
Star then levelled 5 mins into 2nd half and then went 3-2 and 4-2 up with 20mins to go, but unfortunatly then scored an OG to let Aisling back into the game at 3-4.
Aisling then had a free kick 30yards out only for the Star keeper to fumble into his own goals, to make it 4-4.
With Star pushing for a winner as a draw was no use, they left gaps at the back and Aisling punished us at the death to make it 5-4 final score.
If only we had played like we did tonight for the whole season, then things would have been better I'm sure,,,,,,,,,,,ah well, Div 1A here we come.

see's it

15/05/2008, 9:45 PM

Aisling 5-4 Star,
Aisling were 1 up after 10mins, and Star equalized on 30mins, only for Aisling to go 2-1 up just before the break through a peno.
Star then levelled 5 mins into 2nd half and then went 3-2 and 4-2 up with 20mins to go, but unfortunatly then scored an OG to let Aisling back into the game at 3-4.
Aisling then had a free kick 30yards out only for the Star keeper to fumble into his own goals, to make it 4-4.
With Star pushing for a winner as a draw was no use, they left gaps at the back and Aisling punished us at the death to make it 5-4 final score.
If only we had played like we did tonight for the whole season, then things would have been better I'm sure,,,,,,,,,,,ah well, Div 1A here we come.

is it defo relegation?

abbeyvale

15/05/2008, 9:47 PM

Premier League Table
Pike Rovers......... 20 / 50 (Max Pts 56)
Ballynanty Rovers 17 / 40 (Max Pts 55)
Fairview Rangers 19 / 39 (Max Pts 48)
Regional United.... 20 / 38 (Max Pts 44)
Janesboro............20 / 35 (Max Pts 41)
Aisling Annacotty 20 / 32 (Max Pts 38)
Wembley Rovers..20 / 26 (Max Pts 32)
Carew Park......... 20 / 19 (Max Pts 25)
Summerville Rovers 20 / 17 (Max Pts 23)
Corbally United.... 20 / 16 (Max Pts 22)
Granville Rangers... 19 / 14 (Max Pts 23)
Star Rovers.......... 21 / 10 (Max Pts 13).........RELEGATED

Remaining Games
Aisling(2)- Balla,Granville,
Balla(5)- AISLING,CORBALLY,JANESBORO,Fairview,Summerville
Carew Pk(2)- GRANVILLE,WEMBLEY,
Corbally(2)- STAR,Balla
Fairview(3)- BALLA,Granville,Regional,
Granville(3)- AISLING,FAIRVIEW,Carew,
Janesboro(2)-PIKE, Balla,
Pike Rvs(2)- WEMBLEY,Janesboro
Regional(2)- FAIRVIEW, Summerville
Star Rvs(1)-Corbally,
Summerville(2)-BALLA,REGIONAL,
Wembley(2)-Carew,Pike,

Fixtures
Thursday 15th May (18.45)
Granville 0-4 Regional
Aisling 5-4 Star
Wembley 2-3 Fairview
Corbally 0-4 Pike

Sunday 18th May (10.30)
Corbally v Star

Thursday 22nd May (18.45)
Granville v Fairview
Pike v Wembley
Summerville v Regional