Potentially eligible players thread

[ColourfulPeanut]

Yep, we really cant have a guy like this anywhere near our team

The man was born and raised in Ireland , with two Nigerian parents

If he picks any other country then Ireland or Nigeria he is a walking disgrace.
Lets give him the benefit of the doubt, just suspicions for now. I wouldn't even be certain of his eligibility for England.

We have Armstrong Okoflex involved at u19s now and he went the route I described. Born and raised in Dublin to Nigerian parents, moved to England when he signed for Arsenal and was representing them up until this year despite having no England links at all. So it's not unprecedented and I assume the FA put a lot of pressure on them and promise them the world if they're decent players.

[geysir]

Actually Wikipedia is right for once, it was through a great grandparent that he qualified. His great grandmother was born in Athlone but moved to England at a young age.

At the time he was considered to be eligible under the great-grandparent rule, which was changed by FIFA in 1986, the year of his Ireland debut, to what we now know as the granny rule.

So he just got in in time. If he had declared for Ireland even a year later he would not have been eligible.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/fais-tale-of-three-passports-26108028.html
In Aldo's time there was nothing in the FIFA statutes about a great-grandparent rule.
If a player was eligible for citizenship, he was eligible to play for that country, he didn't actually need to have obtained the citizenship.
Aldo was eligible to play for us in 1986 because he was eligible for Irish citizenship, on the basis of a Dept of Foreign Affairs right to give him special dispensation for having a great grandparent.

After Qatar dished out citizenship to Brazilians willy nilly, FIFA altered the regulations in 2003, that the player was now required to satisfy residence or have parent/grandparent connection.

[Stuttgart88]

It really is a case of the 'winner' writes history.
In the first Charlton campaign all the way through to the finals, we had one of the best full-backs, one of the best centre-backs, two of the best central midfielders, one of the best left and right-wingers and one of the best strikers in England, in our side. It would not be an exaggeration to say that McGrath, Hughton, Moran, Whelan, McGrath, Lawrenson, Sheedy, Houghton and Aldridge were in the top 5 of their position in England at the time. And yet we played a style that was to the strength of none of them, yet we'd our greatest success ever as an International team.

It's baffling.There could have been a summer of wild exuberance and an open top bus celebration after our heroic semi final exit to West Germany in 1982 if hadn't been for a bent Portuguese referee in Brussels 1981 / if Gerets hadn't dived / if Ceulemann's free had hit the bar an inch higher and gone over instead of up in the air and back into the 6 yard box. Them's the breaks I suppose.

Starting XI in Brussels was McDonagh, Langan, Moran, Martin, Hughton, Heighway, Daly, Brady, Grealish, Robinson, Stapleton.

Lawrenson and O'Leary were injured. Both would have started I'm sure. We beat France & Holland at home in the same campaign. Drew with Belgium at home, from 1-0 down. Drew 2-2 in Holland. Beat Cyprus twice.

[greendeiseboy]

Looks like he was brought up out Kilmacthomas/Clonea way but may be English born, it appears his mother may be from there or may have close family there, she is living here and his sister is also living here. From a Facebook stalk it would appear his sister is friend's with a mate of mine. I could do a check to see does she know anything about where his allegiances are.

[elatedscum]

Yep, we really cant have a guy like this anywhere near our team

The man was born and raised in Ireland , with two Nigerian parents

If he picks any other country then Ireland or Nigeria he is a walking disgrace.

Speaking to a mutual friend of his and mine about a year ago, the friend of his said he reckoned he’d play for Nigeria. Wasn’t gospel by any means and maybe there was a touch of winding me up, but if there’s any pressure or desire for change, it probably swings in that direction rather than towards England.

[tetsujin1979]

Jay McGrath, son of U21 cap John McGrath, signed for Coventry last week from non league Mickelover - https://www.ccfc.co.uk/news/2020/july/transfer-jay-mcgrath-joins-sky-blues/
Not sure if he's ever played internationally at any level

[CraftyToePoke]

Jay McGrath, son of U21 cap John McGrath, signed for Coventry last week from non league Mickelover - https://www.ccfc.co.uk/news/2020/july/transfer-jay-mcgrath-joins-sky-blues/
Not sure if he's ever played internationally at any level

Irish flag next to his name on Flashscore anyway.

[tetsujin1979]

Irish flag next to his name on Flashscore anyway.

true, but they have a tricolour next to Notts County's Jim O'Brien as well, and he declared for Scotland ten years ago!

[Fixer82]

John McGrath who played for Villa?

[tetsujin1979]

John McGrath who played for Villa?
the very same

[Demesne Lad]

Any info on defender Jason Sean McCarthy, born in England, probably leaving Millwall during the summer?

[CraftyToePoke]

Kieran Dowell joins Norwich permanently from Everton, 22 now. Three year deal. Grandparents according to WiKi.

[tetsujin1979]

Kieran Dowell joins Norwich permanently from Everton, 22 now. Three year deal. Grandparents according to WiKi.

has a lot of appearances for England at underage level - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kieran_Dowell#International_career - I know Clarke did too, but the connection he had through his parents was much closer

[CraftyToePoke]

has a lot of appearances for England at underage level - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kieran_Dowell#International_career - I know Clarke did too, but the connection he had through his parents was much closer

Callum Robinson though, big underage England career through the age groups & one grandparent.

[Diggs246]

The Callum Robinson thing is actually pretty funny, totally illegal player who will go on to get 30+caps

[Olé Olé]

Definitely not the first and most hopefully not the last that was and will be able to bypass that rubbish rule.

[samhaydenjr]

The Callum Robinson thing is actually pretty funny, totally illegal player who will go on to get 30+caps


Definitely not the first and most hopefully not the last that was and will be able to bypass that rubbish rule.

Yeah it's ridiculous - should be "you can either switch to a country you qualify for or not" - not "you can switch to a country you qualify for if you were already half-planning for the eventuality while playing for your original country and if you don't pre-plan you can't... well if your original country objects anyway... if they don't then you can... unless the original country of another player who wanted to switch objects to the switch around the same time you signal your intention to switch, drawing attention to the rule, in which case you may not be able to even if there's no objection from your originating country's FA, but who knows for certain?

[TrapAPony]

Kalvin Phillips of Leeds is eligible for Ireland. I saw a tweet from his mother saying that he had an Irish grandparent. He would be a very decent acquisition if we could entice him. Any FAI people here to examine this further?

Also, does anyone know if 18 year old Aaron Hickey who is left back for Hearts is eligible. Highly rated and currently linked to Aston Villa, Bologna, Celtic and Bayern Munich in this transfer window?

[geysir]

Yeah it's ridiculous - should be "you can either switch to a country you qualify for or not" - not "you can switch to a country you qualify for if you were already half-planning for the eventuality while playing for your original country and if you don't pre-plan you can't... well if your original country objects anyway... if they don't then you can... unless the original country of another player who wanted to switch objects to the switch around the same time you signal your intention to switch, drawing attention to the rule, in which case you may not be able to even if there's no objection from your originating country's FA, but who knows for certain?
I don't dissagree with your general sentiment, but changing the wording to 'be allowed to switch to a country you qualify for' still would not allow a player like Dan Crowley or Dowell to switch. Reason is, a foreign born player with only grandparent/s connection is not qualified to play for Ireland until he/she actually acquires Irish nationality.

How about, a player (who has not yet played at A level competitive) be allowed to switch to the association of another country of which he is entitled to hold nationality of via parent/grandparent /residency 5 years?

[Olé Olé]

Kalvin Phillips of Leeds is eligible for Ireland. I saw a tweet from his mother saying that he had an Irish grandparent. He would be a very decent acquisition if we could entice him. Any FAI people here to examine this further?

Also, does anyone know if 18 year old Aaron Hickey who is left back for Hearts is eligible. Highly rated and currently linked to Aston Villa, Bologna, Celtic and Bayern Munich in this transfer window?

Not sure on Hickey but I do know he is from Glasgow and is a Celtic supporter and spent time on their books. That is a start.

[Trequartista20]

26-year-old Sean Raggett has joined Portsmouth on a two-year deal, as per The News, Portsmouth.

[Diggs246]

Kalvin Phillips of Leeds is eligible for Ireland. I saw a tweet from his mother saying that he had an Irish grandparent. He would be a very decent acquisition if we could entice him. Any FAI people here to examine this further?

Also, does anyone know if 18 year old Aaron Hickey who is left back for Hearts is eligible. Highly rated and currently linked to Aston Villa, Bologna, Celtic and Bayern Munich in this transfer window?
Re kalvin phillips. Is there any further proof of his eligibility? He would be a find

[ColourfulPeanut]

Re kalvin phillips. Is there any further proof of his eligibility? He would be a find
This is his mother tweeting apparently.
https://twitter.com/etfonehome100/status/1290053116814008320

FAI should at least give him a shout to see if it's true and get him a passport sorted if so. He hasn't played international football of any level to date.

Would be a non-runner I reckon anyway because he's definitely good enough to play for England in a position they're weak at.

[seanfhear]

This is his mother tweeting apparently.
https://twitter.com/etfonehome100/status/1290053116814008320

FAI should at least give him a shout to see if it's true and get him a passport sorted if so. He hasn't played international football of any level to date.

Would be a non-runner I reckon anyway because he's definitely good enough to play for England in a position they're weak at.If he is eligible for a passport ~ why not get it sorted if he is amenable !

[ColourfulPeanut]

Jamaica are apparently pursuing Phillips. Definitely the time for the FAI to chance their arm and give him a shout!

[Bielsa´s irish]

Mikey Johnston may declare for Ireland soon

[Diggs246]

I see liverpool are after Jamal Lewis of Norwich. Am i right in saying he would have qualified for us through his belfast born mum( good Friday agreement)?

[CraftyToePoke]

I see liverpool are after Jamal Lewis of Norwich. Am i right in saying he would have qualified for us through his belfast born mum( good Friday agreement)?

Jamal Piaras Lewis would suggest his mother might have preferred he did.

[geysir]

I see liverpool are after Jamal Lewis of Norwich. Am i right in saying he would have qualified for us through his belfast born mum( good Friday agreement)?

The GFA has feic all to do with his mother being an Irish national from birth and as a consequence, Jamal's eligibility for Ireland.

[ColourfulPeanut]

Mikey Johnston may declare for Ireland soon
Is there a source on that because I can't see anything?

Also he's played for Scotland u21s and qualifies via grandparents, so he could fall victim to the Johansson ruling.

[tetsujin1979]

Mikey Johnston may declare for Ireland soon
That rumour 's been going around for ages, but he's never switched, what's changed?

[Trequartista20]

That rumour 's been going around for ages, but he's never switched, what's changed?

Nothing. Dismiss the idea. Javier does have a proclivity to make things like this up.

[elatedscum]

Did anyone see Ricardo Dinanga's goal for Cork City during the week? Very impressive, albeit against terrible defending. He's listed on different online sources as being from both Ireland and DRC. 18 years old...

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2759559644324047

[Gather round]

Jamal Piaras Lewis would suggest his mother might have preferred he did.

The only way Lewis could be more woke as a Black Muslim NI player is if his given names were Jamal Padraig Piaras 😀

[DeLorean]

Did anyone see Ricardo Dinanga's goal for Cork City during the week? Very impressive, albeit against terrible defending. He's listed on different online sources as being from both Ireland and DRC. 18 years old...

Another on Friday night:

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[ColourfulPeanut]

He's listed on Cork City's website, transfermarkt and FIFA as Irish so I'd say he's definitely predominantly Irish!

Looks promising for such a young player.

[Closed Account]

Josh Martin (18) has 2 for Norwich in first half of a preseason friendly.

https://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/josh-martin-s-norwich-city-story-so-far-1-6677237


Saka is tipped to join Canaries stars Max Aarons, Ben Godfrey and Todd Cantwell in the England U21 set-up soon but international recognition is yet to arrive for Martin - who has options.
“I was in a training camp once but not anything recently,” he said of his England youth hopes.
“I’m not 100 percent sure but Republic of Ireland, Portugal I think and England. (Portugal) is on my dad’s side, I’d have to speak to him about that.
“One-hundred percent international is something I look towards and is something I really want to do but it’s not something that plays on my mind too much.
“For me it’s just play as well as I can at the club and I’m sure if I’m doing well in the first team then I’ll get some international recognition.”

[Bielsa´s irish]

i read somewhere that Paul McGrath said that it may be a chance for Jacko Grealish

[Diggs246]

Did u? !

[Bielsa´s irish]

Did u? !ç

the quotes are from August the 3rd an irish newspaper. it came from from some source of Paul from A.V i think. That Jacko is unpleasent as how things panned out. McGrath stated " a little bird" told me

[tetsujin1979]

Bielsa, either drop the act or I'm giving you a week off. Last warning.

[Bielsa´s irish]

Bielsa, either drop the act or I'm giving you a week off. Last warning. ok understood! but
i have the source, im a journalist and a true fan. ive checked it.
it was published on the irish independent website on august the 3rd. Paul McGrath's article there. u can verify that

[seanfhear]

i read somewhere that Paul McGrath said that it may be a chance for Jacko Grealish
Are they doing a Remake of Father Ted ? ?

[tetsujin1979]

ok understood! but
i have the source, im a journalist and a true fan. ive checked it.
it was published on the irish independent website on august the 3rd. Paul McGrath's article there. u can verify that
I'm not talking about that. You're not Argentinean, you don't watch games on ESPN Argentina, and you're well able to speak (and type) in English. Knock it off.

[Olé Olé]

How many warnings are needed, Tets? Did I not just see the poster suggest a 3-3-1-3 formation for an Irish team in another thread? The behaviour is insulting to other posters.

[Olé Olé]

And I saw the Grealish point on YBIG. So the poster is clearly coming across to take the absolute p*ss.

[Fixer82]

He’s a sap. Get him out of here

[Bielsa´s irish]

Sorry but i just brought information that i thought might be useful about the eligibility.

Perdón a todos muchachos. Ya aclaré las cosas les pido perdón a todos estimados compañeros, el fútbol es pasión.

Y que hariamos sin la pasión de este juego hermoso en nuestros corazones?.

Yo soy argentino y he sido hincha de Irlanda desde la época de Brady en Inter año 85 cuando jugaba Maradona en el calcio con Napoli.
A veces la pasión nos juega una mala pasada. Mil disculpas a todos. Best regards.

by the way, my name is javier François i am a professor and a journalist. I am from Argentina, it is not a joke. I have been reading this forum for the last 8 years or so.

[seanfhear]

Sorry but i just brought information that i thought might be useful about the eligibility.

Perdón a todos muchachos. Ya aclaré las cosas les pido perdón a todos estimados compañeros, el fútbol es pasión.

Y que hariamos sin la pasión de este juego hermoso en nuestros corazones?.

Yo soy argentino y he sido hincha de Irlanda desde la época de Brady en Inter año 85 cuando jugaba Maradona en el calcio con Napoli.
A veces la pasión nos juega una mala pasada. Mil disculpas a todos. Best regards.

by the way, my name is javier François i am a professor and a journalist. I am from Argentina, it is not a joke. I have been reading this forum for the last 8 years or so.Probably better for everyone if ya just go back to reading it ~ ~ Cheerio !

[elatedscum]

by the way, my name is javier François i am a professor and a journalist. I am from Argentina, it is not a joke. I have been reading this forum for the last 8 years or so.

I’m all for people saying whatever the **** they want on platforms like this. Saying that...

Surely the admins can see the IP addresses from which every post is made? In this instance, they might choose to verify Chelo’s claims that he’s posting from Argentina. Cause it’s just a pointless and constant back and forth. Chelo posts something outlandish or untrue, which leads people to call him a WIM and an idiot, to which he goes back to his story of being an innocent and passionate yet simple man from Argentina, veins coursing with irish blood. The whole thing is so obviously implausible, and his writing full of tells, someone calls him out as being from say, Templeogue (good shout). And it continues on and on and on, like some kinds of deeply unfunny and tiresome skit...