Potentially eligible players thread [Archive] - Page 57

samhaydenjr

21/01/2018, 3:35 AM

Hopefully he can be in our march squad

Might be a bit premature to say that after a 15-minute cameo - given the recent form of Hogan and O'Brien they would probably be the priorities for the game in Turkey, along with McGoldrick and Maguire, if he's back by then. However it would definitely be worth MON's while keeping an eye on him with a view to including him in post-season squads if he does make a goalscoring impact over the next few months

liamoo11

21/01/2018, 1:35 PM

Might be a bit premature to say that after a 15-minute cameo - given the recent form of Hogan and O'Brien they would probably be the priorities for the game in Turkey, along with McGoldrick and Maguire, if he's back by then. However it would definitely be worth MON's while keeping an eye on him with a view to including him in post-season squads if he does make a goalscoring impact over the next few months

We need to get away from picking players based on who is in form for a few weeks and look at the type of player we need for the way o Neill will play. We need a front man who can hold ball up link play and give us a chance to get our midfield into attacking positions as well as having a bit of pace in behind. That is what Keane offers Hogan certainly doesn't offer that and neither does o brien. Keane and Hogan or Keane and long seem like possible front men partnerships on the basis that Murphy and Walters will not be around for the Euro qualifiers. So to me trying to integrate Keane is important if o Neill is staying and we are going to play 2 up like we did against Denmark . Mcgoldrick and Mcguire are not going to be the hold up target man if we are playing a two up

liamoo11

27/01/2018, 2:16 PM

heneghan starting today for Sheff utd

samhaydenjr

29/01/2018, 2:15 AM

We need to get away from picking players based on who is in form for a few weeks and look at the type of player we need for the way o Neill will play. We need a front man who can hold ball up link play and give us a chance to get our midfield into attacking positions as well as having a bit of pace in behind. That is what Keane offers Hogan certainly doesn't offer that and neither does o brien. Keane and Hogan or Keane and long seem like possible front men partnerships on the basis that Murphy and Walters will not be around for the Euro qualifiers. So to me trying to integrate Keane is important if o Neill is staying and we are going to play 2 up like we did against Denmark . Mcgoldrick and Mcguire are not going to be the hold up target man if we are playing a two up

Interesting thoughts about Keane - TBH I don't know much about his playing style, just that Hull's manager at the time thought he was good enough to be a regular Premier League starter before his injury and that Nigel Adkins seems to have faith in him, now that he is back - got 27 minutes in their victory against Forest yesterday: http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42756108 - would like to see him start to score goals, though, before leapfrogging him over Hogan/Maguire/O'Brien - also, surely Hogan or Long could be instructed to be a bit more of a hold-up player if we decide that's what's needed - otherwise couldn't we just use the pace of both of them to stretch defences?

DannyInvincible

29/01/2018, 1:36 PM

Limerick's Chiedozie Ogbene is to sign for Brentford: https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/2107020/chiedozie-ogbene-is-set-to-leave-limerick-and-join-championship-side-brentford-after-impressing-on-trial/

osarusan

29/01/2018, 2:11 PM

Ogbene's eligibility isn't really in question is it? Born and raised in Ireland.

I appreciate that there might be no better thread to put it in though...the thread seems to function both as a 'he might be eligible' and a 'he might be good enough in the future' thread.

Do we have a 'potentially good-enough-in-the-future players' thread to mention these up-and-coming players?

DeLorean

29/01/2018, 2:19 PM

Born in Nigeria and moved to Cork when he was 12 - https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/1069003/chiedozie-ogbene-left-cork-city-for-limerick-as-he-was-not-happy-with-place-on-the-bench/

Ogbene ultimately wants to move abroad and win international honours, having moved to Cork from Lagos, Nigeria 12 years ago after his father got a nursing job.

He added: “I’m still waiting for that international call, be it Nigeria or Ireland.

“It could happen some day, I’ll just keep believing and keep working hard, hopefully it will be happen.

“Obviously my heart belongs to Nigeria. One day I’d love to wear the Golden Eagle. Nigeria would be first for me.”

osarusan

29/01/2018, 2:25 PM

Well well well, the internet gave me some bad information. First time for everything.

samhaydenjr

29/01/2018, 11:45 PM

Born in Nigeria and moved to Cork when he was 12 - https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/1069003/chiedozie-ogbene-left-cork-city-for-limerick-as-he-was-not-happy-with-place-on-the-bench/

Just to be pedantic, article said he moved to Ireland 12 years ago, when he would have been eight - at least he leaves the door open for playing for Ireland, even though his first choice would be Nigeria.

tetsujin1979

30/01/2018, 9:14 AM

Ogbene move confirmed, three and a half year deal: https://www.brentfordfc.com/news/2018/january/chiedozie-ogbene-signs-30.01.18/

osarusan

30/01/2018, 9:21 AM

Best of luck to him, one of the most exciting players I've seen at Limerick in a long time.

He has real pace but is still very raw. He needs good coaching, hopefully he will get it.

gastric

31/01/2018, 3:32 AM

I wonder might McGuane still be interested in playing for us? Might be worth someone from the FAI following this development.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/barcelona-sign-former-ireland-u17-international-marcus-mcguane-1.3374320

Murph 1

31/01/2018, 8:57 AM

Afraid that boat has sailed, McGuane is no longer available for us as he switched his allegiance from Irl to Eng, a player can only switch once so that's rules him out from our point of view.
On another note-just wondering has anyone any info on Sheffield United defender Jack O Connell. He is having a fine season and would be a real addition if eligible- heard he was but not sure.

DeLorean

31/01/2018, 9:06 AM

On another note-just wondering has anyone any info on Sheffield United defender Jack O Connell. He is having a fine season and would be a real addition if eligible- heard he was but not sure.

There was some speculation about this on here previously - https://foot.ie/threads/119079-Potentially-eligible-players-thread?p=1879463&viewfull=1#post1879463

Murph 1

31/01/2018, 9:27 AM

Thanks for that, really think he would be an addition to our squad, O Connell has played for Eng at U 17 and U 19 level. However they have never included him in any of their U 21 squads. He will be 24 in March so would be a perfect age for Inclusion in an Irish Senior Squad. Hope the FAI are looking into his case and clarifying his situation one way or the other.

Metrostars

01/02/2018, 11:28 PM

In the US, college player Jon Gallagher from Notre Dame University was select by Atlanta United in the MLS draft a few weeks ago. #14 pick overall. Born in Dundalk:
https://www.mlssoccer.com/players/jon-gallagher

Strange though because he was born in Dundalk and his bio says he represented England at underage level. Moved around a bit due to his father's job at Guiness, he also lived in Singapore and in Connecticut(where I am:)). Also says he had trials At Juventus, Marseille and Newcastle Blackburn:
http://www.myajc.com/sports/gallagher-takes-long-road-atlanta-united/bIns4TRNmpAk6CQS9LAZKN/

http://www.und.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/jon_gallagher_904790.html

Other eligible players in MLS:
Tommy McNamera - NYCFC: https://www.mlssoccer.com/players/thomas-mcnamara
Lamar Neagle - Seattle: https://www.sounderatheart.com/2015/2/13/8037401/lamar-neagle-ireland
Ryan Meara - NY Red Bulls: https://www.mlssoccer.com/players/ryan-meara

Charlie Darwin

02/02/2018, 12:32 AM

He represented England Schoolboys - it's not a national team, it's for anyone in school in England. Ryan Giggs played for them back in the day.

irishfan86

02/02/2018, 4:08 AM

I watch a fair bit of MLS. Neagle and McNamara are handy enough without being exceptional. Meara is a serviceable goalkeeper. Don�t think any of them are necessarily worth having a look for national team, but for what it�s worth I think they could all play at English Championship level. Given Gallagher is young it�s worth seeing how he does with Atlanta of course.

seanfhear

02/02/2018, 6:10 AM

I watch a fair bit of MLS. Neagle and McNamara are handy enough without being exceptional. Meara is a serviceable goalkeeper. Don’t think any of them are necessarily worth having a look for national team, but for what it’s worth I think they could all play at English Championship level. Given Gallagher is young it’s worth seeing how he does with Atlanta of course.Quite a lot of our players are playing at English championship level . Its a pretty decent level to be honest . Admittedly we would like all our players playing at higher levels but thems the breaks sometimes .

Ol� Ol�

02/02/2018, 2:00 PM

Gone are the days there are Championship fixtures on international weekends. It's well stacked with internationals at most sides, mostly attributable to money spent on non-English players admittedly.

DannyInvincible

02/02/2018, 2:51 PM

I see that Ireland and US-eligible Shane O'Neill is playing for Excelsior (David Connolly's old club) in the Netherlands now: https://www.transfermarkt.com/shane-oneill/leistungsdaten/spieler/229912

Whilst I was looking up O'Neill, I also happened to come across a 23-year-old Colorado Rapids centre-back named Joseph Farrell: https://www.transfermarkt.com/joseph-farrell/profil/spieler/430373

Farrell is US-born, but surely must have Irish roots with a name like that.

Conor Donovan is another player I spotted under the "comparable players" heading on that site (TransferMarkt.com): https://www.transfermarkt.com/conor-donovan/profil/spieler/336166

According to the site, he was born in the US (and played 29 times for their under-17s and ten times for their under-20s) but is also eligible to play for us. He's 22 and presently plays for Rio Grande Valley FC Toros, having previously been with Orlando City.

In an interview with US Soccer (https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/03/17/12/25/getting-to-know-us-u17-mnt-defender-conor-donovan), however, he states:

"We are 50 percent Irish and 50 percent Italian. I think I’m more Irish, maybe like 51/49. My mom and dad are from Massachusetts and I think my dad’s side came over from Ireland maybe two generations ago."

If he can only trace his Irish ancestry to great-grandparentage, then he wouldn't actually be eligible, to the best of my knowledge.

IsMiseSean

02/02/2018, 6:19 PM

Jack McInerney playing at LA Galaxy now. The surname suggests a link.

liamoo11

15/02/2018, 10:42 PM

Rory delaps boy Liam is in the brits under 15 squad. Delaps parents are Irish born I think so he would be eligible.

Charlie Darwin

15/02/2018, 11:30 PM

Turncoat.

DannyInvincible

16/02/2018, 1:10 AM

Rory delaps boy Liam is in the brits under 15 squad. Delaps parents are Irish born I think so he would be eligible.

That's correct. His father John is from Letterkenny and his mother Maura is from Kells.

The possible future allegiance of his sons was actually discussed in this Irish Post article from 2014: https://www.irishpost.co.uk/sport/rory-delap-carlisle-long-throw-weapon-19520

And with [Delap's] parents � John from Letterkenny and Maura from Kells � he had a special Christmas, marvelling at John�s capacity to persuade his boys � aged 10, six and four � to declare their allegiance to Ireland.

�They�ll listen to him quicker than they will me,� laughed Delap. �But you hope the importance of being Irish resonates with them. It meant everything to me growing up. We�ve gone back to the same places I went to when I was a child in Donegal and Meath. They loved it.

"Their granddad has drilled it into them that if they�re any good at anything, it�s Ireland they have to represent. When he said it, they took it all in. So that�s one issue done and dusted then.�

I'm guessing Liam was the 10-year-old mentioned back then.

Ol� Ol�

16/02/2018, 7:07 AM

There's time for him to turn yet.

Looked at Delap's career stats there. Can't believe he only won 11 caps and most of his career was in the Premiership (4 seasons at Derby and Southampton each and 5 at Stoke). Not that he was a world-beater and we had more options at midfield and right back during his time.

liamoo11

16/02/2018, 7:20 AM

tetsujin1979

16/02/2018, 8:11 AM

seanfhear

16/02/2018, 8:59 AM

Subs Should be allowed to take Throw Ins Anyway . Speed the game up and give an advantage to the team with the throw and dis-advantage the team that puts the ball out . The Subs should also be allowed to take corners . I will contact FIFA will my cunning Plan ;)...and possibly goal kicks and free kicks . It might cut down on fouling .

Fixer82

16/02/2018, 4:02 PM

I remember Delap scoring two goals against Arsenal and a man of the match performance and wasn't selected that week in the Ireland squad (may have even been a friendly) and I thought 'that lad must be snapping. he's never going to get in the squad at this stage.' That was the Staunton era I believe when Stan was getting rid of anyone over 22.

DeLorean

16/02/2018, 4:31 PM

I presume this must be the match you're remembering - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/3947349.stm

Southampton: Niemi, Lundekvam, Jakobsson, Higginbotham, Telfer, Anders Svensson (Prutton 85), Delap, Nilsson, Kenton, Ormerod (McCann 75), Blackstock (Best 90).
Subs Not Used: Blayney, Baird.

Goals: Delap 80, 85.

It would have been during the Brain Kerr era, our next international match was a friendly against Croatia a couple of weeks later and you're right, no sign of Delap - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/4015791.stm

Republic of Ireland: Kenny, Finnan, Dunne, Breen, O'Shea, Miller, Kavanagh, Kilbane, Duff, Elliott, Keane. Subs: Maybury, Quinn, Cunningham, McGeady, Given, Barrett, Doherty, Lee, Colgan.

Stuttgart88

17/02/2018, 6:28 PM

Kerr used to say he'd be ridiculed of he picked a guy just for his throws (or something like that) but I think Delap's regular ability justified more call ups under a few managers. He was a great all round athlete and could cover at full back. I think Mick gave him a run out in a home friendly before WC02 (Russia, the game Sadlier got his only cap?) but he was played out of position wide right and ultimately, in my opinion, he was humiliated by Mick. I felt for him. You can't be told you've got 60 mins to play your way into a WC squad and then not be picked in the right position. That said, his versatility should have been an asset and I don't care what the purists say, a dangerous Delap throw is every bit as valuable as having a dangerous free kick taker.

seanfhear

18/02/2018, 6:21 PM

If we still had Niall Quinn in his heyday Delap would have been useful ( was their any over-Lap of playing time in their careers ? ) . The Iceland team of today would still use a Delap .

Closed Account

18/02/2018, 8:29 PM

https://preview.ibb.co/bHsc37/Screenshot_2018_02_18_21_25_23_027_eu_livesport_Fl ash_Score_com_plus.png (https://ibb.co/f8LVO7)

Is this lad eligible ?

Fixer82

20/02/2018, 6:27 PM

I seem to recall Delap scoring a great overhead bicycle kick too.
He�d walk into the current squad. Unlucky for him he was trying to break into a fairly settled squad.
I remember an interview with him talking about being on the bench in Tehran when we qualified for �02 and he knew he had no hope of making the World Cup squad.

backstothewall

21/02/2018, 7:02 PM

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-fans-call-change-14318375

Big push on for Callum O'Hare to come in to the Aston Villa side this weekend in the absence of Albert Adomah and he who shan't be named for them. Has a single cap for England U20 but also qualifies for us.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/callum-ohare/profil/spieler/371262

Star of the show as their U23s battered Wolves U23 on monday

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-wolves-u23-highlights-14311427

Video here

http://www.astonvilla.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=7524386

DeLorean

22/02/2018, 11:56 AM

Kerr used to say he'd be ridiculed of he picked a guy just for his throws (or something like that) but I think Delap's regular ability justified more call ups under a few managers.

That said, his versatility should have been an asset and I don't care what the purists say, a dangerous Delap throw is every bit as valuable as having a dangerous free kick taker.

Were Delap's throw-ins even a thing when Kerr was managing Ireland? I don't think I knew it was part of his armoury until he was playing in the PL for Stoke.

Stuttgart88

22/02/2018, 1:10 PM

Maybe it wasn't Kerr

DeLorean

22/02/2018, 1:25 PM

I wasn't questioning you by the way, more curious if it was something Kerr might have said after the event. I always found it a bit odd that Delap's secret weapon stayed exactly that for so long, to my mind at least.

DannyInvincible

24/02/2018, 7:06 PM

I came across this piece about Matthew Shiels in a copy of the Leader (a local Donegal paper) sitting in a pile of old papers. It features some info in the lad's Irish roots and his local connections (although the author is getting his FIFA articles mixed up when he talks of article 18 being the "granny rule").

https://image.ibb.co/gLmzQx/capture.png

https://image.ibb.co/j0e3kx/Capture2.png

Apologies for the poor image quality.

geysir

24/02/2018, 7:39 PM

Maybe it wasn't Kerr

'twas Trapp.

IsMiseSean

24/02/2018, 8:56 PM

Remember when Rangers players used to get booed in Lansdowne Road. Never taught anything of it at the time, but now it seems ridiculous.

DannyInvincible

01/03/2018, 1:12 AM

Matthew Shiels lined out for Scotland's under-19s the other day, two weeks after lining out for our under-19s: https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/2240025/rangers-starlet-matthew-shiels-lines-out-for-scotland-two-weeks-after-playing-for-republic-of-ireland/

Both games were non-competitive.

seanfhear

01/03/2018, 4:04 PM

samhaydenjr

03/03/2018, 12:00 AM

Patrick Bamford scored a his first hat-trick tonight, making it six goals in his last three games... would it look really bad if we made an approach now?

gastric

03/03/2018, 12:31 AM

Is he a double Agent.....But for Whom /Who ?No he's just a dirty floozy trying to tease us!

seanfhear

03/03/2018, 8:08 AM

Patrick Bamford scored a his first hat-trick tonight, making it six goals in his last three games... would it look really bad if we made an approach now?We’d have to get someone that doesn’t mind feeling dirty . He knows he is qualified . If he wants to all he has to do is let the right people know he is interested . One has to have some self respect .