Potentially eligible players thread

[Olé Olé]

What about this McCormick from the mountains city of Bogotá

What is the link? How is he eligible and how do you know this?

[tetsujin1979]

this is a google translation of the video above

but few teams in Colombia risk giving the opportunity to the
young talents in soccer in this case independent santafé gave him the
opportunity to a boy from Bogota named Holman Camilo McCormick and who
He made his professional debut at just 14 years old
His last name is of Irish origin and is due to his grandfather and with 14 years and
359 days striker Camilo McCormick se
became the new independent promise santafé professional
I was born here in Bogota and I am a fan of Sant because of his coach, Harold Rivera.
I include at minute 81 in the game in which Santa Fe beat Patriotas in Tunja
one by three in the colombian cup and there mccormick fulfilled that dream of debuting
with the professional team I feel quite a lot he is sweet more to follow
working to win more minutes and accumulate more games began to play
When I was eight years old in the team tell us, I was also in the national team
child from Bogotá where he became a scorer I as a striker have
polyfunctionality played as much as for the center for the bands
preferably on the left since that is where he has been playing
this year he came to independent santa fe signed his contract was included in the
Professional payroll and their rights are the property of the cardinal mi team
goal with santa fe is to get to stay to become a player
important if god wants to be able to score many goals and give santafé a title
This Thursday, October 28, Camilo McCormick will be 15 years old and
His best gift was already given to him in advance by Santafé when he made it debut
with the professional team



To clarify a few things - he's 15 and is playing for Santa Fe in Colombia - https://independientesantafe.com/
He's already played for Santa Fe in this season's Copa Libertadores as a late sub against Fluminese last Wednesday night (Thursday morning Ireland time) - https://conmebollibertadores.com/cards/MatchCenter?gameId=2202722&titleText=Detalles%20Del%20Partido
Didn't get a mention in the match report on the official site(which is strange) but he's listed on the squad here - https://independientesantafe.com/2021/05/12/el-primer-campeon-visita-a-fluminense-en-el-maracana/
Must be one of the youngest players ever in the competition?

they're playing River Plate at 1am Ireland time tonight. Fun fact about River's squad - they've no available goalkeepers so they've been forced to select a defender in nets

He was called into a training camp for Colombia' U17s last September for this year's South American Under 17 Championship - https://fcf.com.co/index.php/2020/09/20/convocatoria-seleccion-colombia-masculina-sub-17-8/
The tournament was due to be held at the end of March, but was postponed and has not been rescheduled, but apparently will take place this year - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_South_American_U-17_Championship

[bawn79]

this is a google translation of the video above


To clarify a few things - he's 15 and is playing for Santa Fe in Colombia - https://independientesantafe.com/
He's already played for Santa Fe in this season's Copa Libertadores as a late sub against Fluminese last Wednesday night (Thursday morning Ireland time) - https://conmebollibertadores.com/cards/MatchCenter?gameId=2202722&titleText=Detalles%20Del%20Partido
Didn't get a mention in the match report on the official site(which is strange) but he's listed on the squad here - https://independientesantafe.com/2021/05/12/el-primer-campeon-visita-a-fluminense-en-el-maracana/
Must be one of the youngest players ever in the competition?

they're playing River Plate at 1am Ireland time tonight. Fun fact about River's squad - they've no available goalkeepers so they've been forced to select a defender in nets

He was called into a training camp for Colombia' U17s last September for this year's South American Under 17 Championship - https://fcf.com.co/index.php/2020/09/20/convocatoria-seleccion-colombia-masculina-sub-17-8/
The tournament was due to be held at the end of March, but was postponed and has not been rescheduled, but apparently will take place this year - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_South_American_U-17_Championship

I don't think the timeline fits very well for him to have an Irish grandfather. If say this kids dad was 30 when he had him. That means the father was born in Colombia about 45 years ago. The grandfather would have had to immigrate to Colombia from Ireland sometime before that (1976). That is way past the period when Irish people were immigrating to South America in the mid to late 1800s.

[Olé Olé]

I don't think the timeline fits very well for him to have an Irish grandfather. If say this kids dad was 30 when he had him. That means the father was born in Colombia about 45 years ago. The grandfather would have had to immigrate to Colombia from Ireland sometime before that (1976). That is way past the period when Irish people were immigrating to South America in the mid to late 1800s.

And the oldest person he knows or knew with the surname "McCormick" is likely to be his grandfather and, yes, it would have come from him as the name was passed down. That doesn't mean he was born in Ireland.

I'm skeptical as to whether he is eligible.

[tetsujin1979]

McCormick named as a substitute for Santa Fe
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[Bielsa´s irish]

live on espn the broadcaster Mariano Closs remarked that " la joyita de 15 años de abuelos irlandeses estamos esperando para verlo jugar" they said abuelos ( both grandma and grandpa a marriage thats my coloquial undestanding) this Holman Camilo McCormick is an enigma that only FAI could solve

[Bielsa´s irish]

this is a google translation of the video above


To clarify a few things - he's 15 and is playing for Santa Fe in Colombia - https://independientesantafe.com/
He's already played for Santa Fe in this season's Copa Libertadores as a late sub against Fluminese last Wednesday night (Thursday morning Ireland time) - https://conmebollibertadores.com/cards/MatchCenter?gameId=2202722&titleText=Detalles%20Del%20Partido
Didn't get a mention in the match report on the official site(which is strange) but he's listed on the squad here - https://independientesantafe.com/2021/05/12/el-primer-campeon-visita-a-fluminense-en-el-maracana/
Must be one of the youngest players ever in the competition?

they're playing River Plate at 1am Ireland time tonight. Fun fact about River's squad - they've no available goalkeepers so they've been forced to select a defender in nets

He was called into a training camp for Colombia' U17s last September for this year's South American Under 17 Championship - https://fcf.com.co/index.php/2020/09/20/convocatoria-seleccion-colombia-masculina-sub-17-8/
The tournament was due to be held at the end of March, but was postponed and has not been rescheduled, but apparently will take place this year - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_South_American_U-17_Championship


the irish on the pitch on the gk alll four gks had covid since the gk coach was infected and infected the goalkeepers....something to take under consideration

[Bielsa´s irish]

the irish on the pitch on the gk alll four gks had covid since the gk coach was infected and infected the goalkeepers....something to take under consideration

national team and ex bemfica and valencia star Enzo Perez as a gk their best player

[Charlie Darwin]

I don't think the timeline fits very well for him to have an Irish grandfather. If say this kids dad was 30 when he had him. That means the father was born in Colombia about 45 years ago. The grandfather would have had to immigrate to Colombia from Ireland sometime before that (1976). That is way past the period when Irish people were immigrating to South America in the mid to late 1800s.
Well Irish people still migrate to South America now. The Colombian economy would have pretty strong through the 60s to the 80s at a time when Ireland's was very poor. Even today, there'd be pockets f recent Irish emigrants to Brazil and Argentina.

[Eirambler]

I'd be amazed if this lad is eligible for us to be honest. I mean it's obviously not impossible, but surely we would need to have a bit more evidence before we take any interest.

[BonnieShels]

Mumsie's another one. Ah, the Crystal Maze... Was mumsie ever actually shown? She sounded terribly fearsome...


Brilliant. God bless Richard O'Brien.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV8eZzIR0lA

Not to drag this back off topic, but TBF I have been MIA, but on the Crystal Maze, I periodically end up on a wiki wormhole and have ended up on that page and it always blows my mind that The original four series were just that... FOUR!!!

That it ended with ETP in 1995 is also amazing. It felt like I definitely got my teen out of it. Apparently not. Anyway, moving on.

Ryan Johandsome FTW!!!

[ColourfulPeanut]

Extra.ie seem to think he's eligble for us anyway
https://extra.ie/2021/05/20/sport/soccernews/hollman-mccormick-santa-fe-colombia

He also has Irish citizenship listed on his Transfermarkt profile
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/hollman-mccormick/profil/spieler/861716

Could be something there but nothing to suggest he'd have any interest and the lad is only 15 yet.

[paul_oshea]

I don't think the timeline fits very well for him to have an Irish grandfather. If say this kids dad was 30 when he had him. That means the father was born in Colombia about 45 years ago. The grandfather would have had to immigrate to Colombia from Ireland sometime before that (1976). That is way past the period when Irish people were immigrating to South America in the mid to late 1800s.

Always found it funny seeing Irish names pop up throughout Colombia, for example Murphy International school(probably US) and Joyce Joinery.

[sadloserkid]

Extra.ie seem to think he's eligble for us anyway
https://extra.ie/2021/05/20/sport/soccernews/hollman-mccormick-santa-fe-colombia

He also has Irish citizenship listed on his Transfermarkt profile
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/hollman-mccormick/profil/spieler/861716

Could be something there but nothing to suggest he'd have any interest and the lad is only 15 yet.

Extra.ie probably got the story from here...

EDIT: Or maybe that's where our resident denizen of the River Tolka... sorry I meant River de la Plata of course found this prospect.

[tetsujin1979]

I know at least one extra.ie writer is a member of the forum, or used to be anyway.
It's been mentioned on YBIG as well, so it could have been taken from there.

[MC312]

I think I’ve posted here before about him but Peter Kioso nabbed two for Northampton Town last night. He’s 21 and his wiki says he’s from Swords but doesn’t seem to have ever featured for us underage. He was on loan with Bolton in the first half of the season where I saw him play in 2 games and he really impressed me. Good attacking right back. His stats are decent and nice to see him stepping up to L1 with apparent ease.

Anyone got any more info on his national status/allegiances? His parents are from DR Congo.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Kioso

A few more links here - some speculation in the last paragraph of the second link...

https://www.the42.ie/highly-rated-dublin-born-full-back-returns-to-championship-club-5323238-Jan2021/

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/5948457/dublin-peter-kioso-manchester-united-luton-town/

Parents are from DR Congo, but Peter is Irish. As is his little brother. I think his older brother might have been born in DRC. I coached Peter at u9 and u10 (from memory of the age groups) at Malahide.

[tetsujin1979]

FAI exploring eligibility of Hollman McCormick: https://www.the42.ie/holman-mccormick-ireland-5446477-May2021/

[ColourfulPeanut]

Henry Kessler with who plays in the MLS with NE Revolution is in the process of declaring for us apparently. 22 year old centre back.

[Eirambler]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thebentmusket.com/platform/amp/2020/9/12/21429336/henry-kessler-the-story-behind-the-revolutions-budding-star

Interesting one. Don't watch MLS so not familiar with this player. Seems open to representing Ireland or USA. Centre back is possibly the only position where I'd say his prospects might be better with the US.

[Fixer82]

Anyone heard of Liam McCabe who plays for Cuenca in Ecuador?

[Diggs246]

Anyone heard of Liam McCabe who plays for Cuenca in Ecuador?

Que Bielsa to drop his pants

[paul_oshea]

Yep he's born in Guayaquil. Good spot. Left back I think.

[elatedscum]

Anyone heard of Liam McCabe who plays for Cuenca in Ecuador?

Dodgy Google translation from 2 years ago:

https://www.extra.ec/noticia/deportes/liam-patrick-mccabe-fichaje-de-emerlec-futbol-internacional-3112877.html

Liam Patrick McCabe Soriano is part of Emelec's reserve team. A few days ago he was in an internship at St. Patricks Athletic in Ireland and they stayed with his game, since it would be taken into account for the microcycles of the U21 team of that country, because he has dual nationality on the part of his father, his mother is Ecuadorian.

20-year-old Liam began training at Rocafuerte in 2016, then moved on to Emelec 2017 for the U18s and currently plays in the squad reserves with coach Javier Klimowicz.

The experience that he lived in Europe has been motivating for the footballer who started as a midfielder and now plays as a left back.

The dream of playing for the Irish national team is latent, he says it would be a good opportunity. Mick McCarthy is the coach of the Irish national team, and who already knows that, in Ecuador, there is a player with Irish blood who can be of much use to them, because he has that typical way of playing and passion that Latinos have for him. they put on the court.

The work with the sub-21 would do with Harry Kenny. His goal is to reach football in Europe, meanwhile he continues training at Emelec, McCabe trained at St.Patricks Athletic and was seen by members of the coaching staff of the under-21 team, they communicated with his father, George McCabe, who resides in the country for several years.

“They told me that they were going to call me to work on the microcycle. But now we are focused on what can be done with the Emelec reserve team ”, says Lam, who admires Cristiano Ronaldo internationally, while from the national players he stays with what defender Óscar Bagüí does, of whom he stands out. delivery and professionalism is also an example for the boys who train in the minors at Bombillo.

McCabe began to play at the age of five, then he did it at Torremar school, but the most emotional thing was this year when the opportunity came to show himself in football where his father is.

Why is it blue? He says that the love for Emelec started with his father, who when he arrived in the country due to the Bombillo fans who were faithful and always present in the stadium, regardless of the score. For now Liam trains with the blues, waiting for the jump to the first team, but in the meantime what may happen with Ireland seduces the player.

[tetsujin1979]

McCormick on the bench for Sante Fe again tonight
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[elatedscum]

Northern Ireland have called up Conor Bradley. 17 year old from a nationalist background from what I’ve read. Part of the Liverpool u18 team that played the youth cup final a few days ago, he’s, as far as I’ve seen, the outstanding young player from north of the border.

If I were Stephen Kenny, I’d be on the phone making one last pitch to him...

[CraftyToePoke]

Another one - https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/republic-of-ireland-faces-battle-for-services-of-promising-teen-striker-rio-mcevoy-40471229.html



The Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland are engaged in a tug of war to try and secure the services of Rio McEvoy, a promising striker on the books of Bolton Wanderers.

McEvoy (16) lived in Dublin until the age of 9, playing his football at Cherry Orchard, before a family move to England where he spent time with Blackburn and Manchester United prior to signing for Bolton where he has starred at U17 and U18 level. A recent hat-trick against his former club United was the highlight of the season.

The teenager's father is from Dundalk but his mother hails from Newry, so he is open to considering his options in terms of international football.

[seanfhear]

Northern Ireland have called up Conor Bradley. 17 year old from a nationalist background from what I’ve read. Part of the Liverpool u18 team that played the youth cup final a few days ago, he’s, as far as I’ve seen, the outstanding young player from north of the border.

If I were Stephen Kenny, I’d be on the phone making one last pitch to him...
Can he keep his options open for a few years ?

[Eirambler]

Northern Ireland have called up Conor Bradley. 17 year old from a nationalist background from what I’ve read. Part of the Liverpool u18 team that played the youth cup final a few days ago, he’s, as far as I’ve seen, the outstanding young player from north of the border.

If I were Stephen Kenny, I’d be on the phone making one last pitch to him...

No huge rush, he can earn three caps with the North before he has to decide. Gives us a chance to look at him at a higher level than Under 18s also.

I don't agree with it, but those are the rules.

Incidentally I see it has turned out that the South American lad McCormick doesn't qualify for us. Players with Irish names in that part of the world will almost always be too many generations back unfortunately.

[seanfhear]

No huge rush, he can earn three caps with the North before he has to decide. Gives us a chance to look at him at a higher level than Under 18s also.

I don't agree with it, but those are the rules.

Incidentally I see it has turned out that the South American lad McCormick doesn't qualify for us. Players with Irish names in that part of the world will almost always be too many generations back unfortunately.
Get him a Wife or a Partner !

[Eirambler]

He's 15!!!

[seanfhear]

He's 15!!!
Is it legal to get married in some countries at 15.

[pineapple stu]

You volunteering there seanfhear? :p

Take one for the team and all that!

[Fixer82]

Over the hill

[seanfhear]

A lot of arranged marriages worked out just fine.

[Diggs246]

Is it legal to get married in some countries at 15.
Still is in north kildare

[Bielsa´s irish]

Bundesliga 2 sensation Scott Fitzgerald Kennedy madre his international debut on Tuesday. Man of the match performance. His coach said was the best internacional debut ever for Canadá Nacional team. Played as a left side defender in a 3 at the back defence.

[Bielsa´s irish]

Well after Scotland new fiasco. Ireland should approach al irish eligible scottish born players. They are so lame! I am in the end of the world un a middle of pandemia and the tv news channels made fun of Scotland in the Eurocopa. Waited 22 years for this fiasco!!!

[Olé Olé]

Not eligible or playing anymore but I'm reading Pat Nevin's book at the moment and there's a funny little anecdote about Ireland going to Hampden Park for a Euro 1988 qualifier and beating Scotland 1-0, and Scotland's "chances of qualification were just about scuppered there and then."

Nevin, who tells a lot of stories about his father's diligently travelling to all his matches from Glasgow to London when he was at Chelsea, tells us that his family originated in Ireland having come "over to Scotland from County Kildare in Ireland just two generations before and they still feel themselves to be, at the very least, partly Irish."

Pat is coming out of the stadium after the match and his old man is waiting for him and "didn't seem particularly unhappy at all." Pat asks him if he was supporting Ireland and "with your own son playing for Scotland?"

"Not... As... Such, but if you were going to lose to anyone, then that is who to lose to."

[bainneban]

Yeah he was on "off the ball" one night a year or so ago absolutely delighted that he had finally gotten his Irish passport and talking about how much it meant to him.

[Demesne Lad]

Just wondering if Sean McGurk (18), born in Liverpool, attacking midfielder at Wigan and attracting Leeds Utd interest, has any Irish parent or grand-parent?

[tetsujin1979]

Rory Delap's son Finn has joined Burton's professional development side: https://www.burtonalbionfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/0507-scholars2/

FINN DELAP
Finn, the son of former Brewers midfielder Rory and brother of Manchester City striker Liam, plays centre-back and has been with our Academy for six months, joining following his release from Derby County.
“I’m looking forward to getting going in the league,” said Delap.
“I just love to play - it doesn’t matter what league, what level, I just want to play football.”

[Olé Olé]

Will this turn out like the Keane brothers with the successful one going with England and the less successful one trying to settle for Ireland? I feel dirty even asking that but it could easily turn out like that.

I guess you could ask whether there's an issue with that. Young lad isn't good enough for England so plumps fo Ireland because his father was an Ireland player. You could swap "player" for "supporter" and maybe end up with Declan Rice.

[Olé Olé]

Big piece in the Athletic about Rice and Grealish and their switch to England. Don't know if I'm capable of reading it...

[Diggs246]

Big piece in the Athletic about Rice and Grealish and their switch to England. Don't know if I'm capable of reading it...
The only thing grealish did wrong imo was accept the u21 award if he knew he wasnt committing to Ireland

Rice used our flag as toilet paper imo

[Olé Olé]

The only thing grealish did wrong imo was accept the u21 award if he knew he wasnt committing to Ireland

Rice used our flag as toilet paper imo
Yes and having read this piece, I'm a bit more inclined to agree with you. It feels like Grealish was a bit torn. From having chatted to lads his age from Birmingham, I know how strong the Irish community is there. I have seen him with a kid (potentially a nephew) on social media in the last year or so with the kid in a Kerry jersey. The people I have chatted to wouldn't be too fond of his dad either, probably down to his conduct on this matter. It does feel like Grealish was torn.

It doesn't feel like that with Rice. It feels like he was all in on our side and then all in on England's side. Remember his interview soon after switching. Didn't he refer to us as "they" and that he had played for "their underage teams" or something similar?

I heard Ken Earley speaking about him recently. He said he was a crowd pleaser and seems to be willing to say anything to please his audience. I would pose an example- the media love the narrative about him and "Mace" Mount being best mates. It's ideal really on lots of fronts, not least because it is easy fuel to the Chelsea speculation fire. But Rice absolutely and utterly laps it up and pushes it further. He's constantly speaking about him. Constantly posing for pictures, even after matches and on field. It's a little weird from a 22 year old.

Overall, I feel as though Grealish had more of an affinity towards us. Bringing his granny from Sneem to that ceremony for the under 21 award was, in hindsight, maybe a little indicative? I mean, was it a day out for Gran in Ireland to make her proud before he switched to England? Anyway, he was from an Irish community. Got opportunities with us underage etc.

Rice might not have had as much of an Irish connection or have been part of an Irish community, although I have read that his dad was disappointed with the decision. It's hard to know. But he really did jump and show no remorse. I really wish he'd behave with a little more respect towards us.

[Olé Olé]

Dan McDonnell has a piece in the Indo on Rice which is behind a paywall: https://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/euro-2020/the-international-making-of-declan-rice-his-rise-through-irelandsranks-and-departure-to-england-40623104.html

[Razors left peg]

Rice just seems like a total emptyhead to be honest. If he wasnt a player he'd be part of the Engerland brigade that bring so much joy to every away venue they visit

[mark12345]

Rice just seems like a total emptyhead to be honest. If he wasnt a player he'd be part of the Engerland brigade that bring so much joy to every away venue they visit

Can't help thinking that Rice and Grealish made the correct choice. The events of today at Wembley v Denmark would appear to back up that decision. However, had it been back in the Charlton era they probably would have opted for the land of their forefathers. It's all about success or chances of to be more precise.

[seanfhear]

Can't help thinking that Rice and Grealish made the correct choice. The events of today at Wembley v Denmark would appear to back up that decision. However, had it been back in the Charlton era they probably would have opted for the land of their forefathers. It's all about success or chances of to be more precise.
Also FIFA and UEFA have by subtle changes made it almost certain that big countries will almost certainly qualify for tournaments and also have a very good chance of getting out of the groups at tournaments. If you think you are good enough to get in the squads of the bigger / stronger nations then its a bit of a no-brainer. Also England are now actively making these opportunities very obvious to players and courting players that they might have once said work away lads. Now if England think their is even a chance you might be good enough they really make it clear to players that they are valued and wanted. Also there is a lot of money to be made by players through advertising etc in selling in to a market of nearly 60 million potential English supporters. The clubs also know that there is a premium value of having English international players to sell or market especially successful English international players.

[elatedscum]

Can't help thinking that Rice and Grealish made the correct choice. The events of today at Wembley v Denmark would appear to back up that decision. However, had it been back in the Charlton era they probably would have opted for the land of their forefathers. It's all about success or chances of to be more precise.

You could certainly argue that but for every Rice or Grealish, there’s more than one Bamford (Ireland U18), Michael Keane (Ireland U19) or Marcus McGuane (Ireland u17) who didn’t make the squad...