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Charlie Darwin
16/10/2016, 4:46 PM
I wouldn't blame him for wanting to play for Australia with all those FAI scouts sleeping on him.

TrapAPony
16/10/2016, 4:47 PM
I wouldn't blame him for wanting to play for Australia with all those FAI scouts sleeping on him.
If Noel King is the best the FAI can send to convince him to play then I wouldn't blame him either

CraftyToePoke
16/10/2016, 4:56 PM
Fup his dreams, make his reality an Irish one :) tets

DeLorean
16/10/2016, 4:57 PM
Former USA Women's Soccer legend Abby Wambach has caused a bit of a stir over the past few months with comments about foreign born players representing the USA men's side. This artcile cover the background to what she has said recently and previously. Pretty similar to the stuff discussed on here over the past couple of years.

We Need To Talk About Abby Wambach And Xenophobia (https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/10/we-need-to-talk-about-abby-wambach-and-xenophobia.html)

samhaydenjr
16/10/2016, 8:39 PM
Before this, he had failed to score in 37 games.

I know...tongue was partially in cheek on that one...unless he scores another 20 goals this season, in which case I will declare myself a prescient football pundit who saw how important he would be to our cause before anybody else...I'll be like an international football hipster:p

OwlsFan
25/10/2016, 3:54 PM
http://www.the42.ie/kenny-shiels-ireland-england-reserves-2994587-Sep2016/

James McLean is having none of it http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2016/1025/826735-mcclean-slams-silly-and-stupid-shiels-remarks/

Olé Olé
28/10/2016, 10:13 AM
https://www.balls.ie/football/scott-hogan-ireland-2/350060

He's getting a lot of people's hopes up is Judger. Either he's had the conversation with Hogan or he's guessing. Fingers crossed it's the former.

TrapAPony
30/10/2016, 12:41 PM
Goalkeeper Mateusz Hewelt on the bench for Everton today. Played for Stella Maris & Shelbourne. Is he still with us?

TheOneWhoKnocks
01/11/2016, 7:35 PM
https://www.balls.ie/football/scott-hogan-ireland-2/350060

He's getting a lot of people's hopes up is Judger. Either he's had the conversation with Hogan or he's guessing. Fingers crossed it's the former.

Didn't Shane Long say something like Sean Morrison would play for Ireland when they were at Reading together? Then it turned out he wasn't even eligible.

I would put more stock in Hogan's words and actions than Judge's Monday morning quarterbacking.

gastric
02/11/2016, 12:25 AM
And I have faith in Judge's comments as he knows him a lot better than you. Take a pill for your OCD.

TheOneWhoKnocks
02/11/2016, 1:15 AM
And I have faith in Judge's comments as he knows him a lot better than you. Take a pill for your OCD.

What I know could fill a phonebook.

DeLorean
02/11/2016, 7:40 AM
I would put more stock in Hogan's words and actions than Judge's Monday morning quarterbacking.

And what were Hogan's words? That he needed to manage his game time having been out with a serious injury for so long? That he'd find it difficult to say no to his hero Roy Keane? Any more incriminating evidence?

TheOneWhoKnocks
02/11/2016, 8:54 AM
And what were Hogan's words? That he needed to manage his game time having been out with a serious injury for so long? That he'd find it difficult to say no to his hero Roy Keane? Any more incriminating evidence?

He said he hadn't thought about which country he wanted to play for yet. He was also quoted about supporting England during the Euros.

I wouldn't read too much into the Keane comments at all. He was a Man Utd fan growing up and Keane was his favourite player.

As I said, I would put more stock in his own words and actions - like turning down a meeting with MON - then I would prompted soundbites from an Irish player.

I will eat my hat if he is named in the squad this afternoon.

DeLorean
02/11/2016, 12:41 PM
Why wouldn't he support England? He is English you know. I don't think anybody is claiming that he's more Irish than English or anything like that, he's clearly not. I think it's pretty obvious if he was unquestionably good enough to play for England, then of course that is what he would chose to do. That's not the situation though.

Maybe he doesn't need to manage his fitness to this extent and he's just buying himself some time until he decides fully what he'd prefer to do (i.e. play for Ireland pretty much right now or hold tough for hopefully making the England squad/team some day). I'd agree that has to be a possibility but I'm okay with it for now, as long as he doesn't allow it to develop into a circus like JG.

Did he actually turn down a meeting with MON? Or is this an assumption based on the fact that O'Neill has been in contact with his agent as opposed to the player himself?

I wouldn't put any weight in the Roy Keane reference either, I was just summarising the brief comments he's made on the matter.

OwlsFan
02/11/2016, 3:22 PM
I will eat my hat if he is named in the squad this afternoon.

Your hat remains intact. Was it a fedora, a bowler or a humbug, sorry homburg ?

Dunners
02/11/2016, 3:29 PM
Hogan was supporting all the home nations in attendance at the Euros on his twitter account

Eminence Grise
02/11/2016, 7:33 PM
I will eat my hat if he is named in the squad this afternoon.


Your hat remains intact. Was it a fedora, a bowler or a humbug, sorry homburg ?

My money's on one made out of aluminium. Or tin.

liamoo11
03/11/2016, 7:45 PM
Lads any one know story with McEleney ? He was cruelly treated by doolin at 19s level then seemed to switch http://m.goal.com/s/en-ie/news/3942/ireland/2013/09/03/4233650/trapattoni-will-never-look-towards-our-league-says-derry . Did he ever play for the north at senior level. Sounds from the article that the Fifa paper work went in but he would still have a switch left to come back to us wouldn't he? He played under 16 for the north but that does not count with Fifa . Lovely player

TheOneWhoKnocks
03/11/2016, 8:19 PM
My money's on one made out of aluminium. Or tin.

It's a snapback.

Charlie Darwin
03/11/2016, 9:53 PM
Lads any one know story with McEleney ? He was cruelly treated by doolin at 19s level then seemed to switch http://m.goal.com/s/en-ie/news/3942/ireland/2013/09/03/4233650/trapattoni-will-never-look-towards-our-league-says-derry . Did he ever play for the north at senior level. Sounds from the article that the Fifa paper work went in but he would still have a switch left to come back to us wouldn't he? He played under 16 for the north but that does not count with Fifa . Lovely player
He never played for them and it never went through. He did an interview a year or so back saying he still wants to play for Ireland.

Fixer82
03/11/2016, 11:25 PM
Hogan was supporting all the home nations in attendance at the Euros on his twitter account

So no shout for us then?? :)

geysir
04/11/2016, 12:17 PM
Were we not temporarily inducted into the 'home nations' by the english press for the duration of the republic's stay there.

Dunners
04/11/2016, 12:47 PM
Indeed we were

seanfhear
05/11/2016, 5:42 AM
A lot of our fans are in the home nations in one way or another............

Not to mention our players............

TheOneWhoKnocks
05/11/2016, 4:17 PM
Ireland's saviour Scott Hogan has went four games without a goal.

It's worth mentioning that Chris Martin, Jordan Rhodes and Ross McCormack have better goalscoring records at that level and have made little to no impact at International level.

Our other saviour, Patrick Bamford, meanwhile, continues his annual struggle to get into PL match day squads.

I do wish Hogan would make a decision one way or other and quit hemming and hawing.

His "training programme" and Intl decision are hardly mutually exclusive.

I don't see how it stops him from finding the time to pick up a phone or make a decision on his Intl future.

samhaydenjr
06/11/2016, 12:42 AM
Ireland's saviour Scott Hogan has went four games without a goal.

It's worth mentioning that Chris Martin, Jordan Rhodes and Ross McCormack have better goalscoring records at that level and have made little to no impact at International level.

Our other saviour, Patrick Bamford, meanwhile, continues his annual struggle to get into PL match day squads.

I do wish Hogan would make a decision one way or other and quit hemming and hawing.

His "training programme" and Intl decision are hardly mutually exclusive.

I don't see how it stops him from finding the time to pick up a phone or make a decision on his Intl future.

Not to worry - Lukas Jutkiewicz just scored again - that's 5 in 9 so my prediction is coming true:p. More seriously, considering that our main strike force is made up of Long, Walters, Doyle and Murphy and that it's likely that three of those will retire after this campaign so it's really important that we have replacements for them - I guess the obvious response is to give McGoldrick and Rooney some game time in preparation for that time, so they should both feature in the Iceland friendly in March. And with Long out, we could possibly use McGoldrick off the bench against Austria, as he has a few caps under his belt, at least, and showed well in the game against the USA a couple of years ago. And if Hogan decides to turn us down, then we may have to look at options like Jutkiewicz and Will Keane

Diggs246
06/11/2016, 9:36 AM
Patrick Bamford is perfect for us, he won't ever play for England and when he finally gets a club where he gets his place (possible in the championship) he will start scoring freely again

Diggs246
15/11/2016, 10:54 AM
So Hogan was in NY watching Conor McGregor, instead of in Vienna or with his clubs medical staff.... I cant say I'm extordinatraly impressed with that

TheOneWhoKnocks
15/11/2016, 10:56 AM
Some people think it's a sign he will declare for us.

You know, because only Irish people enjoy UFC.

johnnyc
15/11/2016, 11:10 AM
Will Keane out for a year, so that potential ship has sailed for now.

paul_oshea
15/11/2016, 11:34 AM
Harry arter didnt watch the georgia/moldova game. Its annoying when i hear that stuff. But if they perform well when playing then ill leave (let)it go.

tetsujin1979
15/11/2016, 11:42 AM
So Hogan was in NY watching Conor McGregor, instead of in Vienna or with his clubs medical staff.... I cant say I'm extordinatraly impressed with that


Some people think it's a sign he will declare for us.

You know, because only Irish people enjoy UFC.

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TheOneWhoKnocks
15/11/2016, 12:15 PM
Harry arter didnt watch the georgia/moldova game. Its annoying when i hear that stuff. But if they perform well when playing then ill leave (let)it go.

Winds me up when lads say "the country" I.e. it was a great result for the country.

O'Dowda and Arter both guilty of it.

For no other reason only it sounds jarring.

TheOneWhoKnocks
15/11/2016, 12:18 PM
I love playing for the country. What country?

DeLorean
15/11/2016, 12:32 PM
Whichever country they're playing for obviously. It's generally only one so should be easy enough to figure out.

TheOneWhoKnocks
15/11/2016, 12:34 PM
Must be Blur fans.

OwlsFan
15/11/2016, 12:37 PM
Winds me up when lads say "the country" I.e. it was a great result for the country.

O'Dowda and Arter both guilty of it.

For no other reason only it sounds jarring.

Let's be honest here. If Arter said "Good morning" you'd find it jarring. Now that Robbie has retired, you have found your new target or is it Walters, or both ? I have no issue with "the country". I play for a club and often say "the club" rather than the name of it. I think it's a lot worse if they said "the Republic of Ireland". I am happy with the "country" or "the team" or "the boys".

DeLorean
15/11/2016, 12:41 PM
I can't claim to know all of his quotes but I've noticed O'Dowda referring to 'my country' or 'my national team' a few times since he was called up also. Proud as Punch he is.

TheOneWhoKnocks
15/11/2016, 1:10 PM
I noticed Pilkington used to say it too.

I have never once heard an Irish born player refer to the country.

TheOneWhoKnocks
15/11/2016, 1:14 PM
Remember when Simon Cox had Galway as part of his location on his Twitter profile until he stopped getting call ups.

Charlie Darwin
15/11/2016, 1:16 PM
No, you're the only one who noticed that.

TheOneWhoKnocks
15/11/2016, 1:17 PM
It's probably just part of their syntax.

Like how Robbie used to start every sentence with "listen".

Probably just a regional thing.

OwlsFan
15/11/2016, 2:58 PM
It's probably just part of their syntax.

Like how Robbie used to start every sentence with "listen".

Probably just a regional thing.

He also said "the country":


But Irish legend, Keane, has since come out to rally for a Yes vote.

In an emotive letter sent to the Sunday World, Ireland's highest ever goalscorer has called on his people to support marriage equality.

“Although I am currently working and living outside of the country, I have been following the commentary and debate on the upcoming Referendum on same-sex marriage,” wrote Keane.

Charlie Darwin
15/11/2016, 3:06 PM
He also said "the country":


But Irish legend, Keane, has since come out to rally for a Yes vote.

In an emotive letter sent to the Sunday World, Ireland's highest ever goalscorer has called on his people to support marriage equality.

“Although I am currently working and living outside of the country, I have been following the commentary and debate on the upcoming Referendum on same-sex marriage,” wrote Keane.
And look what happened. He jumped ship and retired the moment it got difficult. No commitment #NotAnIrishman

TheOneWhoKnocks
15/11/2016, 3:10 PM
The context Robbie used it in there is entirely different in fairness.

TheOneWhoKnocks
15/11/2016, 3:12 PM
And look what happened. He jumped ship and retired the moment it got difficult. No commitment #NotAnIrishman

You're right. I read that wrong just like I did with Jack Grealish that time.

We're only human.

TheOneWhoKnocks
15/11/2016, 3:17 PM
Unless people usually say "I am currently working outside of my country."

Perhaps I'm wrong.

BonnieShels
15/11/2016, 3:35 PM
How you manage to see offence in everything is to be commended.

I get wound up by references to the "Republic". That's where you should aim your ire. You might get a bit more traction.

gastric
15/11/2016, 9:37 PM
Jeez, we're now getting precious about how players refer to Ireland! Some posters on here need to get a life. No wonder, as has been mentioned before, many posters have just given up on this site. That old feeling of excitement and enjoyment when opening threads has been replaced by a feeling of dread at what irrational, nauseating post you might find.

TheOneWhoKnocks
15/11/2016, 9:48 PM
Jeez, we're now getting precious about how players refer to Ireland! Some posters on here need to get a life. No wonder, as has been mentioned before, many posters have just given up on this site. That old feeling of excitement and enjoyment when opening threads has been replaced by a feeling of dread at what irrational, nauseating post you might find.

Fine then. Let's move on. Jeez...