Potentially eligible players thread

[paul_oshea]

Yes, obviously a billionto one shot conservatively speaking, unless his career really plummets, but interesting all the same.

Have a thanks from the Brigade.

I hate this kind of stuff on the forum.

He's clearly ours to lose, just ask CD and Geysir both guys who always appear to have more information than the rest of us - they'll confirm.

[DeLorean]

I find blatant wumming a far bigger deterrent.

[ColourfulPeanut]

That's not true. He's never played for any other country so he can switch up until a competitive senior cap or 3 after 21 if the new rules pass.

Not that I rate him that highly or think he'll switch though.

[Bielsa´s irish]

Lads Ireland need this Mikey and pronto, let me tell you. The guy is there for the taking, plays for an irish-celtic oriented club in Britain the other being Hibernian, I think weve got to be very proactive for this matter. Kenny doesnt have much credit to spend, he has Duff there Duff is a mentor for the fellow Johnston, silver tongue and convince the Mikey. Easy

[Bielsa´s irish]

Look i dont wanna say "big nations" because in football there arent these "big nations " in international football. The big league countries in Europe England, Spain,Germany and France are capping youngsters with dual citizenship for fun. I always thought that Germany in the 80's and 90's wanted to cap Wynton Ruffer but they couldnt.

Ireland national team can get players in from the eligibility procedures but it has to be done quickly than when Charlton was at helm. Young irish players are ok, but we need options. Redmond has an irish mother, well call his mother and family, that kid is half irish on the papers.

[Eirambler]

That's not true. He's never played for any other country so he can switch up until a competitive senior cap or 3 after 21 if the new rules pass.

Not that I rate him that highly or think he'll switch though.

The new rules wreck my head but I'm pretty sure the three caps need to be before he turns 21, if he is capped after his 21st birthday, even by the under 21s in a competitive game, he's tied. Johnston turned 21 earlier this year.

[tetsujin1979]

There is a sixteen year old goalkeeper called Ciaran Dalton on the bench tonight for NY Red Bulls second side. Seems he also plays GAA in NY after a quick Google.

In today's Independent: https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/from-feile-winner-to-the-books-of-new-york-red-bull-how-a-hurling-midfielder-became-a-top-soccer-goalie-39541348.html
Anyone have a subscription?

[passinginterest]

There's a free month subscription for anyone with Revolut at the moment.

Seems a nice chap, father from Westmeath. Looking at the college option. Been with Red bulls since the age of 12 and travelled all over the world with them. Won a feile division one title with his New York team. Seems a talented chap and not short of confidence.

[Olé Olé]

Any mention where his international allegiances would lie if it came to it?

[passinginterest]

his identity is very much tied to Ireland and the GAA. His mother, Eileen (née O'Rourke) is the daughter of Tipperary and Leitrim parents. And when he arrived to play for Red Bull last weekend, he wore an Irish soccer jersey.

"I knew they'd be taking pictures and stuff and I'm Irish so I just wanted to represent and show love. So I had to wear an Ireland jersey.

"Dad (Chris Dalton) grew up in Ireland. He was born in Westmeath, in Castletown Geoghegan, and he went to America at 17. My mother's parents are from Ireland too. Her mother is from Tipp and her father is from Leitrim."

directly from the article

[tetsujin1979]

Looks like that change in eligibility rules has been passed
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[Stuttgart88]

Young Dalton sounds very Irish alright. When he grows up he'll be on Fox News calling for the forced castration of all poor people or something like that.

[Razors left peg]

Looks like that change in eligibility rules has been passed
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I'd be surprised if Obafemi doesn't switch to Nigeria now. We might as well get used to it that we'll gain and lose players in future.

[irishfan86]

No doubt we will lose players at times but I really doubt Obafemi is going to bail on us after being snubbed for one squad. In any event Obafemi should be in the Nations League squad. Kenny thinks he can't play in the system? Bring him in and coach him during training and tell him what he needs to do.

[Razors left peg]

I just have a feeling about Obafemi. I'm still not convinced he's good enough for me to be disappointed either

[seanfhear]

I'd be surprised if Obafemi doesn't switch to Nigeria now. We might as well get used to it that we'll gain and lose players in future.
There is No Barbed wire around the Irish Team. Players that don’t want to play for Ireland are no use to Ireland or even themselves playing for Ireland.

[Trequartista20]

Let's just remind ourselves that Kenny didn't pick Obafemi; the player didn't turn down a call up, and indeed expressed annoyance at his omission.

What is it about Obafemi that engenders these doubts about his commitment? What is it about him, in particular, that apparently means he has more to prove?

[Razors left peg]

Let's just remind ourselves that Kenny didn't pick Obafemi; the player didn't turn down a call up, and indeed expressed annoyance at his omission.

What is it about Obafemi that engenders these doubts about his commitment? What is it about him, in particular, that apparently means he has more to prove?

Well he had a bit of a hissy fit when left out. Didn't turn up for the u21 camp .

I'm basing that I'm not sure if he's that good on games I've seen him play

[irishfan86]

Apart from O'Neill's comments about the player "having a decision to make" to which Obafemi immediately responded with that epic picture of him beaming in an Ireland jersey with the words "All In" or something to that effect, I really don't see any reason to doubt his loyalty.

At every stage his loyalty seems to be questioned -- and most of his "attitude" seems to be frustration at not being included. I'm fine with that given all the guys we've had associated with us over the years who seemed to pick and choose when they'd show up.

[Razors left peg]

I don't have anything against him, and I hope he goes onto be brilliant. As I said I just have a feeling about him.... we'll call it my version of Stutts gut test ��

[tetsujin1979]

Well he had a bit of a hissy fit when left out. Didn't turn up for the u21 camp .

I'm basing that I'm not sure if he's that good on games I've seen him play
To be fair, it was his club kept him back from the u21 camp, and he did score against Manchester United after the Premier league restarted.
Sean Maguire, who wasn't in the initial squad, also scored once, against Bristol City, and didn't make the matchday squad against Finland.
I don't see why Obafemi was overlooked

[seanfhear]

To be fair, it was his club kept him back from the u21 camp, and he did score against Manchester United after the Premier league restarted.
Sean Maguire, who wasn't in the initial squad, also scored once, against Bristol City, and didn't make the matchday squad against Finland.
I don't see why Obafemi was overlooked
Under normal circumstances Kenny probably would have had a bigger squad ! !

[tetsujin1979]

He did have a bigger squad. Dara O'Shea was added to the initial squad without replacing anyone

[youngirish]

Watching Coventry V QPR to see if Shipley is any good. To sum up he's big and powerful but has the acceleration and turning arc of a Nimitz class carrier. I was very impressed by Coventry's young forward Calum O'Hare who bagged a goal and was by far the best player on the pitch. According to this he qualifies for us:

https://www.transfermarkt.us/callum-ohare/profil/spieler/371262

Anyone know anything about him?

[seanfhear]

He did have a bigger squad. Dara O'Shea was added to the initial squad without replacing anyoneBut that was a late in the day thing.

i would say that if there had not been Covid, Kenny would have had a bigger squad !

[Eirambler]

Watching Coventry V QPR to see if Shipley is any good. To sum up he's big and powerful but has the acceleration and turning arc of a Nimitz class carrier. I was very impressed by Coventry's young forward Calum O'Hare who bagged a goal and was by far the best player on the pitch. According to this he qualifies for us:

https://www.transfermarkt.us/callum-ohare/profil/spieler/371262

Anyone know anything about him?

You can never have too many attacking players called Callum.

He's young enough for our under 21s as well. Has played underage for England but it was before he turned 21 so as of today that's not a barrier to him playing for us. Would seem nuts not to at least have him in the Under 21 squad if he's eligible and interested.

[CraftyToePoke]

I don't see why Obafemi was overlooked

To his credit, SK did explain in some detail his reasoning on it the same day IIRC.

[Diggs246]

To his credit, SK did explain in some detail his reasoning on it the same day IIRC.

Yeah but his reasoning was ridiculous. Adam idah doesn't play in a front three either

[Bielsa´s irish]

how does this change in our favor?

how many could declare?

Redmond, ohare, crowley, johansson, johnston, paddy bamford

[Olé Olé]

Yeah but his reasoning was ridiculous. Adam idah doesn't play in a front three either
He has 12 under 21 caps in the past year or two playing in a front three under Kenny. That counts for something.

[Diggs246]

He has 12 under 21 caps in the past year or two playing in a front three under Kenny. That counts for something.

That's true

[tetsujin1979]

If you think that, across the two games, Idah, Connolly, O'Dowda, McGoldrick, Long, and Robinson all got gametime up front, and as I said Maguire didn't see a minute, why was Obafemi not considered?
I'd have him ahead of O'Dowda and Maguire, and he had started ahead of Long for Southampton after the restart.
The "I didn't call him because he wasn't capped under McCarthy is a cop out too - we don't have enough premier league players that we have the luxury of ignoring one on a whim.

[youngirish]

If you think that, across the two games, Idah, Connolly, O'Dowda, McGoldrick, Long, and Robinson all got gametime up front, and as I said Maguire didn't see a minute, why was Obafemi not considered?
I'd have him ahead of O'Dowda and Maguire, and he had started ahead of Long for Southampton after the restart.
The "I didn't call him because he wasn't capped under McCarthy is a cop out too - we don't have enough premier league players that we have the luxury of ignoring one on a whim.

Kenny's attitude with Obafemi was bordering on the ridiculous. He had Parrott and Idah in the squad who had far less game time over the course of the season (Parrott barely got on the pitch). He then called Maguire up, a 26 year old who is miles off International standard at the moment.

His excuse that Obafemi had never played as a lone striker alone up front and that was the reason for not calling him up was also nonsense. Parrot had never played that role at any meaningful level either whilst Idah had very few minutes in that role as he was mainly brought on when Norwich were chasing the game and they often had Pukki or Drmic on the pitch.

Surely the training camp was an opportunity to start bedding these players into these unfamiliar roles. Duffy clearly has never learned to distribute the ball from the back at his club either so should he have been excluded from the squad also?

Anyway it backfired in a big way in my opinion. His attack over both games was toothless and if Kenny seriously believes that replacing O'Dowda with Obafemi in the second half against Bulgaria or in the starting lineup against Finland would have made it any worse then I worry for the next few years.

[Olé Olé]

@tets, I'm not sure. All 6 of the players you reference are able to fill defined roles in Kenny's system. Maguire plays wide quite a lot for Preston too.

I would have called him up myself. But I'm not the manager. I'm leaning towards giving Kenny the benefit of the doubt but I definitely see merit in your points ,tets

[Diggs246]

Kenny's attitude with Obafemi was bordering on the ridiculous. He had Parrott and Idah in the squad who had far less game time over the course of the season (Parrott barely got on the pitch). He then called Maguire up, a 26 year old who is miles off International standard at the moment.

His excuse that Obafemi had never played as a lone striker alone up front and that was the reason for not calling him up was also nonsense. Parrot had never played that role at any meaningful level either whilst Idah had very few minutes in that role as he was mainly brought on when Norwich were chasing the game and they often had Pukki or Drmic on the pitch.

Surely the training camp was an opportunity to start bedding these players into these unfamiliar roles. Duffy clearly has never learned to distribute the ball from the back at his club either so should he have been excluded from the squad also?

Anyway it backfired in a big way in my opinion. His attack over both games was toothless and if Kenny seriously believes that replacing O'Dowda with Obafemi in the second half against Bulgaria or in the starting lineup against Finland would have made it any worse then I worry for the next few years.

If obafemi had come on with mcgoldrick we surely would have had a better chance of drawing the game v Finland

[Bielsa´s irish]

Bamford is having a good game. Watchin' it on espn+ Argentina. He is a bright player, has football brain, but as fast as a snail. Very intelligent though, for that position, he has good movements, attacks the empty spaces cleverly, but doesnt have a bit of pace to make him better. For me is very similar to Hogan and Collins but playing under Bielsa in an attacking team makes Patrick a better footballer

[Trequartista20]

An Anthony Driscoll-Glennon features on the bench for Burnley.

A quick google tells me he's a left-back from Bootle.
I wonder if he qualifies.

[Olé Olé]

I see Cj Hamilton bagged both goals for Blackpool in a 2-0 win against Swindon yesterday.

[Olé Olé]

Liam Delap is on the bench for City tonight against Wolves. Turned 17 in February.

[Razors left peg]

Theres a few Man City youth players on the bench today which is good to see. Hopefully Joe Hodge has a route to 1st team there if he continues how he is going. There is a Thomas Doyle on the bench today, is there any Irish Connection there?

[Olé Olé]

Theres a few Man City youth players on the bench today which is good to see. Hopefully Joe Hodge has a route to 1st team there if he continues how he is going. There is a Thomas Doyle on the bench today, is there any Irish Connection there?
Doubt it. Both of his grandfathers played for Man City and are English-born so the Doyle name isn't even a help there.

[Bielsa´s irish]

Liam Delap eligible though

[nigel-harps1954]

how does this change in our favor?

how many could declare?

Redmond, ohare, crowley, johansson, johnston, paddy bamford

Jamie O'Hara.

[youngirish]

This guy is highly rated at Spurs and has already been on the bench for them this season in the Premier League.

https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/teams/under-23/players/dennis-cirkin/

Anybody know why he prefers to play for the old enemy even though he was born in Ireland? Are his parents English? If not then shame on them.

[Closed Account]

This guy is highly rated at Spurs and has already been on the bench for them this season in the Premier League.

https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/teams/under-23/players/dennis-cirkin/

Anybody know why he prefers to play for the old enemy even though he was born in Ireland? Are his parents English? If not then shame on them.
Both parents are Latvia and he represented them at U13 level according to this.

https://m.facebook.com/BalticFootballSchool/posts/1261461497395414

[Olé Olé]

Peter Kioso is another Dublin born right back. He is starting tonight for Luton against United in the EFL cup.

[youngirish]

Both parents are Latvia and he represented them at U13 level according to this.

https://m.facebook.com/BalticFootballSchool/posts/1261461497395414

Fair enough. He probably won't be too keen then to jump onboard unless things don't work out for him at England.

[tetsujin1979]

Peter Kioso is another Dublin born right back. He is starting tonight for Luton against United in the EFL cup.
According to this - https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/08/02/dr-congo-secure-international-future-of-mk-dons-youngster-peter/ - he declared for the DR Congo.
But, it's the only article I can find, and I can't find any call up for him to the DR Congo team

[Olé Olé]

He looks a good player anyway. I wouldn't be surprised to see him push on as a player. It is clear that he isn't the most polished player but he has a drive and all action industry that reminds me of Stephen Carr. Showed a willingness to tackle and get forward in equal measures and always looked to advance the play.

James Shea was in goal and made some nice saves but he is very small for a keeper, as I'm sure he's been told.

[irishfan86]

James Shea was in goal and made some nice saves but he is very small for a keeper, as I'm sure he's been told.

A touch taller than Shay Given ! (I realize Shay wasn’t the tallest but just saying!)