Potentially eligible players thread

[Diggs246]

He still wouldn't qualify even under the new rules.

[SkStu]

Well feck him so.

[Razors left peg]

Would youse take him back? (it could happen with the rule change although it would be difficult for both sides to walk it back)

I'd have him back in a heartbeat.

No I cant stand him. I'm a United fan too and the rumors of him to United make me cringe.

I'm delighted that even with rule changes we don't have to go through another will he wont he saga. Hes a tool who thinks hes better than he is

[CraftyToePoke]

He still wouldn't qualify even under the new rules.

Is that a certainty though ? Seems to be a maybe

[paul_oshea]

I don't rate him either but, in terms of aggressively tying players, he's only doing what many here say we should be doing.

I think most people have got him wrong, i think with the youthful nature of his squads, and his own experience in the pressure cooker that is England international football, hes exactly the man they need. HEs done a good job and no one can deny that, he might not be right for Chelsea or Man UTD but hes more than suited to England, at present.

[DeLorean]

I think most people have got him wrong, i think with the youthful nature of his squads, and his own experience in the pressure cooker that is England international football, hes exactly the man they need. HEs done a good job and no one can deny that, he might not be right for Chelsea or Man UTD but hes more than suited to England, at present.

He's doing fine, but I do agree that the kind of jammy World Cup run elevates the perception of his performance to a much higher place than it ought to be.

[Diggs246]

Is that a certainty though ? Seems to be a maybe

Yep under the possible new rules if you have played for the country that you have applied to transfer too at any level your a goner

[paul_oshea]

Surely its after the transfer? or did grealish play 21s after he transferred?

[Diggs246]

Yep. He played after

[seanfhear]

How much of us “Losing “ Grealish and Rice was down to Money. Big Money to be made for Player and Club if they do turn out to be successful England internationals. If money is your God then it was a No Brainer for Grealish and Rice ! !

[tetsujin1979]

Neither of them have transferred for any money since changing allegiances (yet!)

[seanfhear]

Neither of them have transferred for any money since changing allegiances (yet!)
Wages, endorsement, etc especially if they are successful. England has a population of 57 Million people roughly. Just think of the advertising money that can be made there as against 5.5 million in the Republic. Fortunes in comparison to relative peanuts ! !

[DeLorean]

He still wouldn't qualify even under the new rules.

Not sure these guys know about the new rules, the old rules, or any other rules - https://talksport.com/football/751038/jack-grealish-england-squad-ireland-sherwood-aston-villa/

[Bielsa´s irish]

the Grealish guy can revert his decision and more after the Munir appeal

[Olé Olé]

the Grealish guy can revert his decision and more after the Munir appeal

Please provide a basis for your conclusion.

[tetsujin1979]

ok understood! but
i have the source, im a journalist and a true fan. ive checked it.
it was published on the irish independent website on august the 3rd. Paul McGrath's article there. u can verify that
I'm not talking about that. You're not Argentinean, you don't watch games on ESPN Argentina, and you're well able to speak (and type) in English. Knock it off.

Update on this, Bielsa is registered with an Argentinean email address, and appears to be posting from Argentina. My apologies.

[seanfhear]

Update on this, Bielsa is registered with an Argentinean email address, and appears to be posting from Argentina. My apologies.
Anywhere near the Malvinas / Falklands ?

[tetsujin1979]

Anywhere near the Malvinas / Falklands ?

no idea, just an Argentinan IP address

[Diggs246]

Update on this, Bielsa is registered with an Argentinean email address, and appears to be posting from Argentina. My apologies.
Wow now I've seen everything. My apologies as well, but your still irish mate

[nigel-harps1954]

Unblocked in this case...I'd like to see where the mad stories are coming from after all if it's not just some English wum..

[youngirish]

no idea, just an Argentinan IP address

He could be faking his IP address but that probably is taking things a step too far. I have little reason to doubt he is Argentinian.

[Eirambler]

You can do a lot of things with a VPN. Would be some length to go to for a ****take though.

[tetsujin1979]

true, and it's possible the account was setup by an Irish person living in Argentina.

[SkStu]

I didnt think he was Messi-ng to be honest.

[Bielsa´s irish]

Update on this, Bielsa is registered with an Argentinean email address, and appears to be posting from Argentina. My apologies.

i am genuine irish fan. I already told you about Liam, Michel and Diego sunday morning clashes in italian football.

i had irish and spanish teachers back in our cath school in Saint Antoine of Padua and the parrish had a priest called father Tomás Farrell in Morón city west greater bs as. The father Fahy was in Moreno City more to the west greater bs as, he has an avenue after his name.

[Diggs246]

i am genuine irish fan. I already told you about Liam, Michel and Diego sunday morning clashes in italian football.

i had irish and spanish teachers back in our cath school in Saint Antoine of Padua and the parrish had a priest called father Tomás Farrell in Morón city west greater bs as. The father Fahy was in Moreno City more to the west greater bs as, he has an avenue after his name.

don't ruin it

[seanfhear]

i am genuine irish fan. I already told you about Liam, Michel and Diego sunday morning clashes in italian football.

i had irish and spanish teachers back in our cath school in Saint Antoine of Padua and the parrish had a priest called father Tomás Farrell in Morón city west greater bs as. The father Fahy was in Moreno City more to the west greater bs as, he has an avenue after his name.
Shouldn’t the Fathers be Capital F’s ?

[mark12345]

i am genuine irish fan. I already told you about Liam, Michel and Diego sunday morning clashes in italian football.

i had irish and spanish teachers back in our cath school in Saint Antoine of Padua and the parrish had a priest called father Tomás Farrell in Morón city west greater bs as. The father Fahy was in Moreno City more to the west greater bs as, he has an avenue after his name.

If I recall from history class in Ireland, some 350 K Irish people emigrated from the Midlands of Ireland (mostly County Offaly) to Argentina (Rosario area if I'm not mistaken) in the 1700's and 1800's. I take it there are plenty of Irish names in Argentina to this day?

[irishfan86]

Makes me think of Alexis Mac Allister at Brighton. Argentina international but of Irish/Scottish descent.

[Eminence Grise]

If I recall from history class in Ireland, some 350 K Irish people emigrated from the Midlands of Ireland (mostly County Offaly) to Argentina (Rosario area if I'm not mistaken) in the 1700's and 1800's. I take it there are plenty of Irish names in Argentina to this day?

Couldn't swear to the figures, but that's right. A friend did his PhD a few years back on a prominent emigrant and looked at the Irish there in the 1880s/1910s.


Makes me think of Alexis Mac Allister at Brighton. Argentina international but of Irish/Scottish descent.

Jose Luis Brown was supposed to have had an Irish granny, but the connection was probably farther back.

[elatedscum]

I have a football jersey from O’Higgins FC, named after Chile’s founding father Bernardo O’Higgins who was the son of Ambrosio O’Higgins from Sligo. There’s also a lot of things (streets, churches, squares etc.) named after members of the MacKenna family who are well renowned there. The writer Benjamín Vicuña Mackenna and his grandfather the hero of the Chilean war of independence Juan MacKenna among them...

In terms of Argentina, Che was a Lynch...

[Charlie Darwin]

England will be humiliated by Germany or Belgium one day and that will be him gone.

I dont agree with this business of ireland capping a guy in the last minute or taking a guy who has a friendly cap for someone else

What southgate is doing is very cynical. He is knowingly ruining the international careers of certain players. He knows dawn well he will never play nathan Redmond. Kalvin phillips will play once for him and then will not be brought to the euros. Next manager comes in and says no thanks kalvin I'm going for the guy from man u or liverpool
This is exactly what Northern Ireland say we do. If a player wants to play for England, it's up to him to try it out and good luck to him. Some players will make different decisions. It's not on the manager.

[Charlie Darwin]

Makes me think of Alexis Mac Allister at Brighton. Argentina international but of Irish/Scottish descent.
I used to know an Argentinian fella in Dublin whose second name was MacAllister. The Irish/Scottish names are more prominent in rugby for class reasons but there's plenty of them out there. Augustin Creevy used to be the Argentina rugby captain.

[Diggs246]

This is exactly what Northern Ireland say we do. If a player wants to play for England, it's up to him to try it out and good luck to him. Some players will make different decisions. It's not on the manager.
I would hate to think we would actively target a northern Irish player just to stop him playing for them, while having no serious intention of playing him ourselves. I would really hate that.

[Fixer82]

I used to know an Argentinian fella in Dublin whose second name was MacAllister. The Irish/Scottish names are more prominent in rugby for class reasons but there's plenty of them out there. Augustin Creevy used to be the Argentina rugby captain.

There was a lad called Filan/Phelan who played rugby for Argentina a few years ago.
Sure Che Guevara was one of the Lynch crowd from Gaillimh.

There was a famous O'Higgins in either Argentina or Uruguayan army a century or twoago also

[Diggs246]

O Higgins statue is in merrion square

[seanfhear]

O Higgins statue is in merrion square
Anybody pulling at it Yet ? ?

[Olé Olé]

Mauricio Pochettino's hometown is called Murphy.

[DeLorean]

Jose Luis Brown was supposed to have had an Irish granny, but the connection was probably farther back.

I was checking him up after TG4's recent World Cup Gold series, and couldn't find anything definitive linking him to us. His Scottish heritage appears much more concrete - https://www.scotsman.com/sport/argentine-football-returns-roots-its-scottish-founder-2474037

He died a year ago this month actually.

[SkStu]

There was a lad called Filan/Phelan who played rugby for Argentina a few years ago.
Sure Che Guevara was one of the Lynch crowd from Gaillimh.

There was a famous O'Higgins in either Argentina or Uruguayan army a century or twoago also

Yeah, his great-great-grandfather was from Galway (I think there is some connection to Co. Clare too though??). Either way, he was never potentially eligible under the FIFA rules and he's dead so this is all a bit off-topic. ;)

[Bungle]

Di Stefano had an Irish granny. Genuinely.

[youngirish]

There was a lad called Filan/Phelan who played rugby for Argentina a few years ago.
Sure Che Guevara was one of the Lynch crowd from Gaillimh.

There was a famous O'Higgins in either Argentina or Uruguayan army a century or twoago also
Bernardo O'Higgins was from Chile. He was instrumental in achieving their independence from Spain. He was not Irish himself but the illegitimate son of a Sligo man in the service of Spain.

[elatedscum]

Di Stefano had an Irish granny. Genuinely.

Chap played for 3 countries and didn’t play for us. Typical FAI

😉

[ForzaForth]

All the Connacht references remind me that Rose Lavelle, rated no. three in the world but possibly the best female player in the world at the moment, has two great-grandparents from Achill Island and still has relatives there. She has just signed for Man. City.

[seanfhear]

All the Connacht references remind me that Rose Lavelle, rated no. three in the world but possibly the best female player in the world at the moment, has two great-grandparents from Achill Island and still has relatives there. She has just signed for Man. City.
There are a good few Lavelles in North Mayo = The French dropped in there some time in History !

In fairness from what I saw of the World Cup. She looked the best player there !

[nigel-harps1954]

Bernardo O'Higgins was from Chile. He was instrumental in achieving their independence from Spain. He was not Irish himself but the illegitimate son of a Sligo man in the service of Spain.

There's a long history of Irish men fighting in various wars of independence amongst different Latin American countries.

William Brown founded the Argentine Navy, he was actually Irish born. A hero in Argentina. Wolfe Tones have a song about him.

The aformentioned Bernardo O'Higgins was actually leader of Chilean war of Independence. His father was Ambrose O'Higgins who was born in Sligo and became leader of Chile under the Spanish.

And sure the fictional character Zorro was supposedly based on an Irish man.

[gastric]

Are we going to do historical links with Cuba next? ��

[seanfhear]

Are we going to do historical links with Cuba next? ��
They don’t produce good footballers so do the qualify for this thread ? ?

[nigel-harps1954]

Are we going to do historical links with Cuba next? ��

There's plenty of those too in fairness..

[tetsujin1979]

It's been a day, more all genealogical/historical discussions to the politics or off topic forum