Potentially eligible players thread

[SkStu]

I see Sean goss looks like signing for qpr from man Utd . I'm sure we have discussed this before that he is eligible for us . Any ideas?

I cant answer, i cant answer that.

[TrapAPony]

How about the new young Villa right back James Patrick Bree...must be something there???

[Charlie Darwin]

How about the new young Villa right back James Patrick Bree...must be something there???
Sounds French to me.

[TrapAPony]

Sounds French to me.
Hard to know if you are joking while referring to Brie as in Brie cheese.;)

Bree Name Meaning Irish (Counties Sligo and Mayo): Anglicized form of Gaelic Ó Breaghaigh ‘descendant of Breagha’, a byname meaning ‘hill dweller’, from brí ‘hill’, ‘height’, genitive breagh.

[Charlie Darwin]

Hard to know if you are joking while referring to Brie as in Brie cheese.;)

Bree Name Meaning Irish (Counties Sligo and Mayo): Anglicized form of Gaelic Ó Breaghaigh ‘descendant of Breagha’, a byname meaning ‘hill dweller’, from brí ‘hill’, ‘height’, genitive breagh.
I'm going to take you out of your misery now and say I was talking about cheese :)

[paul_oshea]

Hard to know if you are joking while referring to Brie as in Brie cheese.;)

Bree Name Meaning Irish (Counties Sligo and Mayo): Anglicized form of Gaelic Ó Breaghaigh ‘descendant of Breagha’, a byname meaning ‘hill dweller’, from brí ‘hill’, ‘height’, genitive breagh.

Now that'll teach him for making ill-informed jokes.

[tetsujin1979]

Okay.

I'm looking now. My post history only goes back to the beginning of January, so I'm searching every thread manually. If I can't find it by then I will accept the week ban graciously - although I do recall several instances where you deleted large swathes of posts so the relevant insults may have been deleted too.

Anyways, I will PM you if I find them. :sweat:

Forgot all about this. I don't think TOWK posted yesterday, so let's call it a one day suspension and we can all get on with our lives
and there's to be no more insinuations of name calling, without a link to a post where that happened

[DeLorean]

As much as I'd like to get on with my life, I'd also welcome TOWK retracting the accusation when it's pretty obvious he was either mistaken or simply lying his ass off. But whatever.

[DannyInvincible]

Brentford are holding out for a £15 million offer for Scott Hogan whilst it looks unlikely he'll feature for Brentford against Chelsea in the FA Cup this weekend, according to the Indo: http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/other-soccer/ireland-target-scott-hogan-could-miss-perfect-chance-to-impress-premier-league-suitors-35401289.html


Brentford striker and Ireland target Scott Hogan is set to miss his side's FA Cup clash with Chelsea as speculation surrounding an imminent move to the Premier League continues to intensify.

Hogan, who has netted 14 goals and contributed one assist in 25 Championship appearances this term, is almost certain to leave Griffin Park before the end of the transfer window.

West Ham have tabled three bids for the attacker, who qualifies to play for Ireland through his grandparents, but the Bees have held firm because the Premier League club are yet to meet their £15m asking price, while Hogan has been omitted from a number of match day squads.

With Brentford set to take on Premier League title favourites in the FA Cup fourth round - which would provide Hogan ample opportunity to impress other possible suitors - they could be without their main goal threat.

Brentford head coach Dean Smith has said that Hogan can leave the Bees, as long as an appropriate offer is made, and claimed that the player is in the running to meet Conte and co, but did not give the impression that he was likely to feature.

"Scott's available for selection. He's trained all week, again, as he did last week. It will be my decision whether he's starting, whether he's on the bench or whether he's not involved.

"We would let any of our players go anywhere for the right money, because everybody has a value at any club," Smith said.

"We've had offers from different clubs for Scott Hogan and all of them have not met the valuation. We keep our business strictly private. We'll say no to people if we don't think the value is met and then it's up to them to come up with a deal that does meet ours," Smith said.

Hogan has previously turned down an invitation from Martin O'Neill to train with Ireland, but it is thought that the FAI are continuing to pursue him.

[OwlsFan]

I can't believe the fuss over Hogan and his value based upon a good run at Brentford. I am not talking from an Irish point of view where my motto is sign them up even if they only watched an episode of Father Ted but based upon a season at Rochdale and half a season at Brentford. Is he that special ? The standard in the Championship isn't that high. Look at Jordan Rhodes - can score for fun in that league but can't get in the Boro side in the EPL. The latter lacks pace - perhaps that is what Hogan has. Haven't been monitoring his goals so not so sure what is so special about him.

2010 Woodley Sports 27(21)
2010–2011 FC Halifax Town 14(0)
2010 → Woodley Sports (loan) 0(0)
2011 → Mossley (loan) 4 (1)
2011–2012 Stocksbridge Park Steels 16 (7)
2012–2013 Ashton United 8 (1)
2013 Hyde 11 (3)
2013–2014 Rochdale 33 (17)
2014– Brentford 33 (21)

[DeLorean]

One of his Irish teammates mentioned him having pace alright, think it was Judge. I would have assumed otherwise giving his body shape. Jordan Rhodes is exactly who I thought of when I saw a few clips of Hogan's goals.

[Yard of Pace]

I can't believe the fuss over Hogan and his value based upon a good run at Brentford. I am not talking from an Irish point of view where my motto is sign them up even if they only watched an episode of Father Ted but based upon a season at Rochdale and half a season at Brentford. Is he that special ? The standard in the Championship isn't that high. Look at Jordan Rhodes - can score for fun in that league but can't get in the Boro side in the EPL. The latter lacks pace - perhaps that is what Hogan has. Haven't been monitoring his goals so not so sure what is so special about him.

2010 Woodley Sports 27(21)
2010–2011 FC Halifax Town 14(0)
2010 → Woodley Sports (loan) 0(0)
2011 → Mossley (loan) 4 (1)
2011–2012 Stocksbridge Park Steels 16 (7)
2012–2013 Ashton United 8 (1)
2013 Hyde 11 (3)
2013–2014 Rochdale 33 (17)
2014– Brentford 33 (21)

I watched him in Brentford's game against Norwich and, alone up front in a team who appear to simply set out not to lose, rather than try to win, I was hugely impressed that he'd managed to score so many as I can only deduce that when the lad gets half a chance he generally must put it away.

That's my one match scouting report. In that game he did get a chance towards the end and only great goalkeeping kept him from scoring. I don't think he'll single handedly propel us to the level of tournament winners but if he's interested I'd have him around.

[DeLorean]

How's he faring on the Stutts gut test though? I can't help but feel we're p!ssing against the wind with this one.

[Stuttgart88]

My gut is for sale in this case. I accept his reasons (injury) to date but would prefer he showed more enthusiasm. If he declares and scores goals my gut will be happier.

[Olé Olé]

Really awkward one for the gut. One can't but help feel the lad has an agent in his ear which is not helping with the humming and hawing in the slightest. Probably the same agent that is keen to broker the West Ham move, as I'm sure there is one.

3 Irish grandparents, an adulation for Roy Keane and a few Irish mates/teammates haven't had the deal sealed so far anyway.

[Diggs246]

Once the transfer window closes, regardless if he is playing for Real Madrid or Bushy Park Rovers. It's Yes or No time Scott

[seanfhear]

I can see how some people might like a little time to decide but this cannot be allowed to drag on and on .

If Scott Hogan has not felt the desire to play for us at this stage then perhaps the desire is not big enough .

If his answer is yes . Good welcome aboard .

If its no . Thanks very much for considering the proposal but we'll leave it there and the best of luck with your football career .

Its time to P*SS or get off the Pot.............

[DannyInvincible]

Ireland-eligible Andrew Stearman has Wolves ahead in the FA Cup against Liverpool at Anfield. His goal was a first-minute header.

Video of the goal here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/38734592

[Closed Account]

I wouldn't question anyones gut and everyone is entitled to an opinion, but outside of international windows, the man has no obligation, and rightly so, to make a comment 1 way or the other. Bottle it up til then lads.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Patrick Bamford hoping to play for his country.


"Personally, in four-and-a-half years I'd love to be called up for England," Bamford said.

"That's the pinnacle of someone's career to play for the national team. But of course, I've got a lot of work to do before that. I want to help Boro go as far as they can - there's no limits.



http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/patrick-bamford-tears-frustration-watching-12515897

[DeLorean]

Good interview. Accrington are keeping him at bay so far. We can check in with him in four and a half years so to see where he's at. :)

[Stuttgart88]

Tenuous connection with this thread. Tony Galvin interviewed by Will Slattery in The Indo.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/there-was-a-lot-of-aggressive-abuse-from-england-fans-ireland-euro-88-hero-tony-galvin-35406732.html

[DannyInvincible]

The Daily Mail are reporting that Aston Villa are preparing a last-minute £9 million bid for Scott Hogan: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4173486/Aston-Villa-launch-9m-bid-Brentford-s-Scott-Hogan.html

Crystal Palace are also reported to be interested (along with West Ham, whose interest is already well documented).

[DannyInvincible]

Actually, just seeing that the Daily Star says Sky Sports have been reporting that West Ham have pulled out of the chase for Hogan's signature as Slaven Bilic is no longer keen on him: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/583686/West-Ham-Brentford-Scott-Hogan-Slaven-Bilic-transfers-rumours-gossip-news


However, Sky Sports now say West Ham have pulled out of the race to land the striker - by orders of Slaven Bilic.

They claim unless Bilic has a change of heart, the Hammers boss has decided he does not need Hogan at the moment.

The Sun today revealed Brentford's bizarre demands were holding up Hogan's move to the Hammers.

The Bees reportedly wanted a £1m Premier League title payout inserted into Hogan's contract if he left the club.

West Brom are said to be keen though, along with Villa and Palace.

[DeLorean]

Villa are favourites according to Sky Sources. I would have thought Hogan would prefer a PL move though. Brentford host Villa tonight coincidentally.

[OwlsFan]

I wouldn't question anyone's gut and everyone is entitled to an opinion, but outside of international windows, the man has no obligation, and rightly so, to make a comment 1 way or the other. Bottle it up til then lads.

Bottle up our guts ? Hmmm, not a pretty picture. No obligation of course but at 24 you would have a fair idea of which way your loyalties lie. By and large, when there is hesitation, it means there will be a declaration for England on the way, but hopefully my bottled gut is wrong.

[Diggs246]

Scott Hogan is doing a medical with Villa as we speak, staying in the championship will mean he is slightly more likely to declare for us

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

What is it, a month and a half since he was supposed to have a meeting with O'Neill?

You can't blame the transfer window because it was supposed to happen before transfer window opened.

And he hasn't played for his team in four weeks so I'm sure he could have found the time to call or text O'Neill.

[Diggs246]

Yep I agree. Yes or No Scott

[tetsujin1979]

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence

[OwlsFan]

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence


"You can decorate absence however you want- but you're still gonna feel what’s missing.”

― Siobhan Vivian, Same Difference

[backstothewall]

Scott Hogan is doing a medical with Villa as we speak, staying in the championship will mean he is slightly more likely to declare for us

A move to Villa has to be good for our chances. Steve Bruce has never stood in the way of players playing internationals that I'm aware of, including his own son when he was with us

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

A move to Villa has to be good for our chances. Steve Bruce has never stood in the way of players playing internationals that I'm aware of, including his own son when he was with us

Did Dean Smith prevent Hogan from playing for Ireland?

[SkStu]

Did Dean Smith prevent Hogan from playing for Ireland?

No. Not that we know of although I'm sure he would have wanted Hogan to prioritize his health and club career. It has always seemed that it is Hogan who is preventing Hogan from committing to Ireland.

[backstothewall]

Did Dean Smith prevent Hogan from playing for Ireland?

Maybe but not that I'm aware of. He probably didn't encourage it either though. It's just an impression i get but it seems like Bruce thinks being an international helps players develop.

Maybe that impression is completely wrong but it's an idea about Bruce that I've picked up from somewhere.

[geysir]

I can't believe the fuss over Hogan and his value based upon a good run at Brentford. I am not talking from an Irish point of view where my motto is sign them up even if they only watched an episode of Father Ted but based upon a season at Rochdale and half a season at Brentford. Is he that special ? The standard in the Championship isn't that high. Look at Jordan Rhodes - can score for fun in that league but can't get in the Boro side in the EPL. The latter lacks pace - perhaps that is what Hogan has. Haven't been monitoring his goals so not so sure what is so special about him.

2010 Woodley Sports 27(21)
2010–2011 FC Halifax Town 14(0)
2010 → Woodley Sports (loan) 0(0)
2011 → Mossley (loan) 4 (1)
2011–2012 Stocksbridge Park Steels 16 (7)
2012–2013 Ashton United 8 (1)
2013 Hyde 11 (3)
2013–2014 Rochdale 33 (17)
2014– Brentford 33 (21)
The only concern is from an Irish point of view, nothing else matters.
If it does turn out that Hogan is worth the faith shown in his ability and ends up playing for Ireland, then all is well with life.
If it doesn't work out, then we are not losing anything.

[DannyInvincible]

Bamford has joined Middlesbrough permanently in a deal worth £6 million after poor showings whilst on loan from Chelsea at Norwich, Crystal Palace and Burnley: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4182128/Bamford-answers-critics-rejoining-Middlesbrough.html

He seems to suggest his privileged background has held his footballing career back due to a sort of reverse-classist stereotyping from figures like Sean Dyche at Burnley.


Bamford's last goal, however, was almost two years ago and it was for Middlesbrough. In truth, the 23-year-old's time away from the club has been disastrous. He has barely played for a season and a half.

He laughs about it but that's not because he doesn't care and admitted yesterday that his last loan spell, at Burnley, has left him particularly driven to make up for lost time.

'Me and the boys got on fine but me and Sean Dyche just clashed,' he said.

'I could sit down and talk to him now and be civil but we had different ideas of football. I didn't get a chance. His team has done great, mind. I can't argue with that.'

Bamford's back story is well known. Privately educated with a string of GCSEs, he is also a talented musician. Having turned down a Harvard scholarship, he wouldn't change any of it but wonders now if his upbringing has worked against him with some.

'There were a few comments at Burnley,' he said. 'Dyche said that because I had come through at Chelsea – and because of the way I had been brought up - I had never had to work for anything.

'My background is irrelevant and I didn't even come through at Chelsea. I started at Nottingham Forest cleaning toilets and scrubbing the shower floors.

'So saying I didn't want it enough was upsetting. I went home every night wondering how to get in the Burnley team.

It was: 'You've been brought up nicely, had everything handed to you'.

'Is that what people think just because I went to private school and played instruments?

'People don't know. My parents never let me have everything. If I started something I had to finish.

'Like with violin. I started when I was seven only because my best mate wanted to. I hated it and wanted to quit but dad made me continue and I got to grade seven.

'My parents said I had to know the value of stuff and work for stuff. But when you get dragged along in paper headlines about things outside the game, football people pick up on it.

'People think I don't mind that much but for me not playing is the hardest thing ever. Sitting in the stands has been a nightmare.'

The day he scored his last goal in April 2015 Karanka described Bamford as: 'The best young player in the league. He is amazing'.

It was strange, therefore, to read the Middlesbrough manager's comments this week as he talked about the club's failure to spend big in the January window.

'Patrick didn't play for 18 months so I don't think he is an amazing improvement,' said Karanka.

When this was put to Bamford yesterday he was unfazed.

'I totally didn't know about that and I'm not worried,' he smiled.

'He has spoken to me a few times already and we have a great relationship. Even after I left first time we were texting and in contact. He trusts me and that's important.

'He said last week: 'I know you will try and do everything at once. But remember that you haven't played for 18 months. I know you will become the player we know you can be but don't try and do it all in one go'.

'For me, that was perfect. I know I will get in to the team when I am ready and I think that will be in the near future but he is playing it his way.

'He has worked at Real Madrid with Mourinho. He has seen how to manage players. He will get me to where I need to be.'

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Gareth Southgate comes from a working class background. There's still hope!

[DannyInvincible]

Aye, we've all got the Rosary beads out...

[samhaydenjr]

Lukas Jutkiewicz scored a late winner for Birmingham against Fulham yesterday. It's his eleventh this season for them, which is only three behind Scott Hogan. Goal here:
https://youtu.be/4VXPwgrB3LI?t=258

[DannyInvincible]

Trevor Sinclair, whose mother is from Sligo (https://twitter.com/trevor8sinclair/status/616561470575353856), was on 'Off the Ball' yesterday evening and claimed he'd happily have played for us if only the FAI had approached him before the English FA did.


If Ireland had have come for me first, I definitely would have gone for Ireland. I definitely had an affiliation with Ireland. We were brought up that way although I lived all my life in England.

[Ireland] actually came in for me just after I'd made an under-21 appearance at competitive level [for England] and the rules at the time were that if you had played under-21 you couldn't change nationality. It's changed now.

There was an inquiry from Jack just before the 1994 World Cup. I'd had half a season at QPR and there was an inquiry came in from Ireland to see if I was available for the full-team. Unfortunately that ship had sailed.

But I'm sure if I had got that opportunity to play with the greats like Paul McGrath and Chrissy Hughton, I would have definitely jumped at it... You got McAteer instead!

Link to the show here: https://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/Off_The_Ball/The_Football_Show_on_Off_The_Ball/178448/2/San_Marino_memories__Trevor_Sinclair_interview

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Adam Barton has scored for Partick this afternoon and I was reminded that he played for NI (senior friendly) and us (U-21), so I decided to look him up.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/partick-thistle-new-boy-adam-8772617


Barton was born in Clitheroe, but qualified for both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland through his Belfast-born grandfather.

After being capped by Northern Ireland in a friendly against Morocco in November 2010 he then switched to playing for the Republic's Under-21 side and, although full caps have failed to materialise so far, he has no regrets.

The Partick Thistle (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/all-about/partic-thistle-fc) signing said: "I was 19 at the time, doing really well at Preston and I got the call from Northern Ireland saying, 'We have a friendly against Morocco, are you interested?' and straight away I said, 'Of course'.

"I was eligible also through my granddad and if he had a say in it I don't think I would have made the step to the Republic, but I did and it was all good.

"I met some great friends there and it was great experience.

"Things didn't go as well as I thought they would, but that is fine, that was my decision and I am happy I did both because I have met some good friends through it."

[OwlsFan]

Trevor Sinclair, whose mother is from Sligo (https://twitter.com/trevor8sinclair/status/616561470575353856), was on 'Off the Ball' yesterday evening and claimed he'd happily have played for us if only the FAI had approached him before the English FA did.



Link to the show here: https://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/Off_The_Ball/The_Football_Show_on_Off_The_Ball/178448/2/San_Marino_memories__Trevor_Sinclair_interview

Might be better in this thread. He can join the ranks of an impressive looking side at this stage http://foot.ie/threads/105089-The-ones-that-got-away

[Olé Olé]

That Callum Robinson is looking great alongside McGeady and Horgan any time I see him. Wouldn't turn my nose up at him if he were really (gut test) interested.

[DannyInvincible]

How does Robinson qualify and has he ever expressed any indication of possible interest that we know of?

[Olé Olé]

How does Robinson qualify and has he ever expressed any indication of possible interest that we know of?

https://twitter.com/RobBrennan82/status/821636730520555521

Bit of talk over on YBIG culminated in his father retweeting the above.

EDIT: His father actually stated he doesn't qualify under that tweet. Case closed. Liked the look of him.

[Closed Account]

Doesn't his father tweet that he doesn't qualify for Scotland there? Only indication I can see about Ireland is that his father retreated the tweet about FAI investigating.

[DeLorean]

Who's Rob Brennan?

[DannyInvincible]

Doesn't his father tweet that he doesn't qualify for Scotland there? Only indication I can see about Ireland is that his father retreated the tweet about FAI investigating.

Aye, I'm pretty sure his father is saying he doesn't qualify for Scotland as his tweet is in direct reply to the tweet asking, "Can they check for a Scottish connection while they are at it?"


Who's Rob Brennan?

A second-generation Irish (I think) London-based QPR fan who used to write for the Irish Post. He may have other media connections too.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

There are five Irish players at Preston. I think if Robinson was eligible and interested, he would make his interest known.