Potentially eligible players thread

[liamoo11]

https://ulsterherald.com/2019/06/22/sweet-16-is-dream-birthday-for-liverpool-bound-conor/

Could be the next border dispute😀

I saw this lad at the victory shield game in Kerry this year. An excellent box to box midfielder. Interestingly he was one of 3 lads in that starting team that night who had their heads bowed and looked very uneasy during God savd the queen. The big centre half also mentioned in that article was another

[liamoo11]

Louie Barry offered a three year contract by West Brom on his sixteenth birthday, amid rumours of a move to Barcelona: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11698/11746791/west-brom-offer-louie-barry-deal-amid-barcelona-interest

It doesn't seem a great deal if they are trying to kerl him surely a 4 year deal to take him up to 21 wouldn't break the bank if u are trying to fend off foreign sides

[elatedscum]

There used to be quite specific regulations regarding contracts for young players at different ages. Both minimum and maximum.

A few years ago, you could only offer a maximum of 3 years at 16. Equally there are certain moments where clubs had to offer a minimum of 2 years (I think possibly after the player has graduated u18).

Not sure the regulations right now but I imagine it’s not too far off that

[Bungle]

I saw this lad at the victory shield game in Kerry this year. An excellent box to box midfielder. Interestingly he was one of 3 lads in that starting team that night who had their heads bowed and looked very uneasy during God savd the queen. The big centre half also mentioned in that article was another

Good to hear. He would seem to be a top talent so hopefully we court him.

[Eirambler]

Another one off to the graveyard of Irish footballing talent that is Liverpool FC though. Unless he's unbelievably good he hasn't a hope, and even if he is the odds will be against him there.

[Bungle]

Another one off to the graveyard of Irish footballing talent that is Liverpool FC though. Unless he's unbelievably good he hasn't a hope, and even if he is the odds will be against him there.

The footballing education he would get there is second to none and should make him a better player. Masterson has been linked with some good clubs so there is a way back for players. Players should be realistic of this fact when signing for clubs like city or liverpool.

[elatedscum]

Another one off to the graveyard of Irish footballing talent that is Liverpool FC though. Unless he's unbelievably good he hasn't a hope, and even if he is the odds will be against him there.


I think if you're going to a Top 6 club, you know you've got about a 1/25 to 1/50 chance of making the breakthrough at that club. They all tend to promote a not-already-established young player to the first team about once every a year or once every two years - but it certainly doesn’t stop the player from developing into a top footballer.


Over the 7 or 8 years, Liverpool have brought through the likes of Spearing (55 app), Sterling (129), Ibe (58), Kelly (62), Wisdom (22), Suso (21), Flanagan (51), Gomez (66) and Alexander-Arnold (85).


United have had the likes of Rashford, Lingaard, McTominey, Perreira, Fosuh-Mensah is borderline.


City have had Foden, Zinchenko, Iheanacho, Boyata (a bit borderline)…


Chelsea with Loftus-Cheek, Christiansen, Hudson-Odoi (on his way), Ampadu (on his way), Ake


Arsenal with Bellerin, Iwobi, Maitland-Niles, Gnabry,


Spurs: Kane, Winks, Alli, Winks, Walker Peters (on his way), Bentlaleb, Carroll.


Plenty of our best young players have joined top 6 sides and probably no one has broken through since maybe Darron Gibson - at Liverpool it was probably Darren Potter, but he was scouse born so that’s a little different.


Liverpool probably had quantity over quality. Of the previous batch, Cleary could probably still end up at a high high level. Trying to think who they had: Cleary, O’Hanlon, Mikey Collins, Jimmy Ryan, Joe Rafferty - no real standouts. If I think of the real standout underage players joining big six clubs, I’d look at Robbie Brady at United, Conor Clifford at Chelsea, Jack Byrne at City, Arsenal probably haven’t had a ‘can’t miss’ talent since Anto Stokes (unless Dan Crowley counts?) and Troy Parrott is probably the only Spurs player. Genuinely don’t think Liverpool have had a player of their ability who ‘should’ have really made it to an elite level since Joxer. They’ve perhaps had more youth players within the system but less of the top ones.


I suppose you could argue that player X (let’s say Alex O’Hanlon) was the best U15 when he went across and Liverpool failed to truly develop that talent so he wasn’t standout by 17 or 18 - but I’m not sure that argument holds up.

[Diggs246]

I think if you're going to a Top 6 club, you know you've got about a 1/25 to 1/50 chance of making the breakthrough at that club. They all tend to promote a not-already-established young player to the first team about once every a year or once every two years - but it certainly doesn’t stop the player from developing into a top footballer.


Over the 7 or 8 years, Liverpool have brought through the likes of Spearing (55 app), Sterling (129), Ibe (58), Kelly (62), Wisdom (22), Suso (21), Flanagan (51), Gomez (66) and Alexander-Arnold (85).


United have had the likes of Rashford, Lingaard, McTominey, Perreira, Fosuh-Mensah is borderline.


City have had Foden, Zinchenko, Iheanacho, Boyata (a bit borderline)…


Chelsea with Loftus-Cheek, Christiansen, Hudson-Odoi (on his way), Ampadu (on his way), Ake


Arsenal with Bellerin, Iwobi, Maitland-Niles, Gnabry,


Spurs: Kane, Winks, Alli, Winks, Walker Peters (on his way), Bentlaleb, Carroll.


Plenty of our best young players have joined top 6 sides and probably no one has broken through since maybe Darron Gibson - at Liverpool it was probably Darren Potter, but he was scouse born so that’s a little different.


Liverpool probably had quantity over quality. Of the previous batch, Cleary could probably still end up at a high high level. Trying to think who they had: Cleary, O’Hanlon, Mikey Collins, Jimmy Ryan, Joe Rafferty - no real standouts. If I think of the real standout underage players joining big six clubs, I’d look at Robbie Brady at United, Conor Clifford at Chelsea, Jack Byrne at City, Arsenal probably haven’t had a ‘can’t miss’ talent since Anto Stokes (unless Dan Crowley counts?) and Troy Parrott is probably the only Spurs player. Genuinely don’t think Liverpool have had a player of their ability who ‘should’ have really made it to an elite level since Joxer. They’ve perhaps had more youth players within the system but less of the top ones.


I suppose you could argue that player X (let’s say Alex O’Hanlon) was the best U15 when he went across and Liverpool failed to truly develop that talent so he wasn’t standout by 17 or 18 - but I’m not sure that argument holds up.


If my kid can play he is going to a championship club that can guarantee he can complete his leaving cert in England along with playing football.

[nigel-harps1954]

If my kid can play he is going to a championship club that can guarantee he can complete his leaving cert in England along with playing football.

He can complete his leaving cert in Ireland?

I know if either of my boys end up good enough, I'd prefer them to stay home and gain their football education here while completing their schooling at home.

It's fast becoming a much better option for young players.

[Olé Olé]

Not to mind leaving cert- I'm liking a trend of lads finishing University before moving on. Robbie Benson tried it and it didn't necessarily work for him. Farrugia and Scales might manage it though. Hope this catches on.

[Demesne Lad]

Michael Collins (18, Everton defender) signed by Sunderland.

[Deckydee]

https://www.qpr.co.uk/squads/under-23s/amrit-bansal-mcnulty/

Amrit Bansal McNulty

[tetsujin1979]

what makes him eligible?

[Olé Olé]

what makes him eligible?

The thread is 'potentially' eligible players. Not 'actually' eligible.

[Eirambler]

Would be good to have two ridiculously named McNultys in our underage squads.

[Wangball]

Just doing some googling and found a thread on a QPR fan site and his full name is given as

Amrit Padraig Singh Bansal-McNulty.

If he's not eligible I'll eat my hat!

EDIT: Just noticed further down the list that theres a Caden Seamus Genovesi!!

http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/general/qpr-fans/2484348-all-our-players

[Eirambler]

16 year old Louie Barry has left West Brom - rumoured to be signing for PSG on a five year five-figure-a-week salary.

Unlikely we'll see him in green again (I believe he played for our under 16s?) but he is still potentially eligible I think at this point in time.

[tetsujin1979]

Five figures for a sixteen year old.
The game's gone mad.

[samhaydenjr]

Just doing some googling and found a thread on a QPR fan site and his full name is given as

Amrit Padraig Singh Bansal-McNulty.

If he's not eligible I'll eat my hat!



With a name like that, he's pretty much eligible for everybody!

[liamoo11]

16 year old Louie Barry has left West Brom - rumoured to be signing for PSG on a five year five-figure-a-week salary.

Unlikely we'll see him in green again (I believe he played for our under 16s?) but he is still potentially eligible I think at this point in time.

Congrats to him a 3 year offering from west brom seemed derisory. I would have thought leaving England would be of benefit to us he may have just been using the Brits for the high profile to get his big move . Has played alot for us at 15s and 16s and looked very committed in bad weather and in poor facilities in Kerry in the victory shield.

[tommy_c12000]

Congrats to him a 3 year offering from west brom seemed derisory. I would have thought leaving England would be of benefit to us he may have just been using the Brits for the high profile to get his big move . Has played alot for us at 15s and 16s and looked very committed in bad weather and in poor facilities in Kerry in the victory shield.

Hijacked by Barcelona at the last minute reportedly....https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9454566/barcelona-sign-england-louie-barry-psg-transfer/amp/

[Olé Olé]

Conor Gallagher in Chelsea pre-season squad.

[Diggs246]

Conor Gallagher in Chelsea pre-season squad.

Irish name. But does he qualify?

[Bungle]

Think Gallagher's dad is from Donegal.

[Olé Olé]

Conor Gallagher (Chelsea) is eligible for Ireland (as distinct from potentially eligible). He's in the England u17 squad and came on as a sub in the WC final.
His dad Lee said,
"he qualifies for Ireland as well, but we were very pleased to find out he’d been called up by England for the World Cup"

The use of the "but" could indicate that they would be even more pleased if he was called up by Ireland.


Irish name. But does he qualify?

Please see above from Geysir in 2019. Don't know the source.

[Olé Olé]

https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/chelsea-midfielder-bookham-makes-england-13747405

Original source. The old man sounded quite happy

[Olé Olé]

https://worldfootballindex.com/2019/07/daniel-crowley-scout-report-willem-ii-arsenal/

Interesting stats here on Crowley. It all looks great until they state he doesn't win the ball back much. That might not sit well with all Irish managers.

No further word on a departure from Willem II either, from what I can see. Kelly may have closed the door on Feyenoord move (although a deeper player) so he might be waiting to see if PSV or Ajax come in.

[Olé Olé]

https://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/city-defender-hoping-for-international-recognition-1-6147274

Sean Raggett confirms his desire to join (it has been mentioned here before). Father a Cork man apparently.

[Olé Olé]

Just noticed, however, Raggett has joined Portsmouth on loan. We probably don't need a centre back at that level for now but given his size and lower league experience, he has plenty room for development and may come good in 1-3 years. He's 25.

[Olé Olé]

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/transfer-window/ireland-under16-cap-louie-barry-completes-move-to-barcelona-38303091.html

The Indo saying they've heard what most of us are thinking i.e. Louie Barry is a goner.

He can still switch back to us if he doesn't make it!

[The Fly]

16 year old Louie Barry has left West Brom - rumoured to be signing for PSG on a five year five-figure-a-week salary.

Unlikely we'll see him in green again (I believe he played for our under 16s?) but he is still potentially eligible I think at this point in time.


Congrats to him a 3 year offering from west brom seemed derisory. I would have thought leaving England would be of benefit to us he may have just been using the Brits for the high profile to get his big move . Has played alot for us at 15s and 16s and looked very committed in bad weather and in poor facilities in Kerry in the victory shield.

Does anyone know exactly how he qualifies?

[Eirambler]

Irish grandparent according to the indo article. Based on nothing other than his surname I'm going to guess from Cork.

No issue with him going with England, he is English born and it looks like he is making his mind up early, can't fault him for that.

[The Fly]

Irish grandparent according to the indo article. Based on nothing other than his surname I'm going to guess from Cork.

No issue with him going with England, he is English born and it looks like he is making his mind up early, can't fault him for that.

Yeah, I just read the article and was going to edit but you beat me to it.

Ah well...another one bites the dust! (perhaps)

[elatedscum]

Wouldn’t trust the independent by default - they did tell us that Declan Rice had chosen ireland. Although it’s always the more likely option.

You could argue that getting out will make it easier for Louie to play for ireland. He did post a thing online a while back when asked what his happiest moment was? And it said something like “proudest grandad in the world” and it was his grandad with him in a country pub holding his Ireland jersey.

We’ll see in due course

[Charlie Darwin]

Wouldn’t trust the independent by default - they did tell us that Declan Rice had chosen ireland. Although it’s always the more likely option.

In this case they're citing FAI sources, which you'd imagine are more objective than Declan Rice's da.

[liamoo11]

In this case they're citing FAI sources, which you'd imagine are more objective than Declan Rice's da.

When mick came in then fai sources were been quoted saying rice was definitely staying with us. Alot can happen in the next few years. Nobody thought Joe hodge was going to walk away from been first choice for England under 17s and commit to us like he did this season

[Olé Olé]

Would Hodge have been a starter for England 17 side?

In light of Kenny's interview with Dunphy, actually, we could see Hodge at senior level soon after Kenny is senior manager.

The only thing is, we all remember those quotes bandied about by Grealish's brother as to how Jack liked that we picked him an age above consistently. I'm sure it's a nice little bonus to Hodge to get to a 19s Euros- completely aside from his long-term international intentions (not trying to cast doubt on them, just highlighting the point all else aside).

[liamoo11]

Would Hodge have been a starter for England 17 side?

In light of Kenny's interview with Dunphy, actually, we could see Hodge at senior level soon after Kenny is senior manager.

The only thing is, we all remember those quotes bandied about by Grealish's brother as to how Jack liked that we picked him an age above consistently. I'm sure it's a nice little bonus to Hodge to get to a 19s Euros- completely aside from his long-term international intentions (not trying to cast doubt on them, just highlighting the point all else aside).

I think we should be clear on the hodge situation. Ye was first choice for the Brits under 15, 16 and last season under 17.. he also was involved with us from under 15.

He was and is consistently namechecked as one of the most promising players in that 2002 age group on their forum http://www.bigsoccer.com/forums/england.98/ . They were gutted when he did not play for them in their qualifiers after Christmas as they had fully expected that when qualifiers came around he would be with them.

Whatever the reason was he played for us at under 17 was it most certainly wasn't because he was not first choice for England

[Olé Olé]

Cheers Liam. Good to hear. They were hankering for Grealish to be their first choice too. There's a long race to run on this one.

[tetsujin1979]

Liam Delap confirms he's signed for Manchester City: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bz5fVw1H4Mi/

[Demesne Lad]

Anybody know anything about Ryan Cooney (Bury defender), just signed by Burnley?

[Charlie Darwin]

When mick came in then fai sources were been quoted saying rice was definitely staying with us. Alot can happen in the next few years. Nobody thought Joe hodge was going to walk away from been first choice for England under 17s and commit to us like he did this season
It's a different FAI now Liamo!

[Olé Olé]

https://twitter.com/SamWallaceTel/status/1151380704221155328?s=20

Dan Crowley on his way to Birmingham City. What would worry me there is that they don't have a manager at present. Hopefully the incumbent has space for a player like Crowley. Disappointed he didn't persist with playing on the continent a while longer.

[tetsujin1979]

Interesting one, this.
Conor Noß, pronounced Noss, came on for Borussia Mönchengladbach today against Athletic Bilbao, and is qualified to play for Ireland. He's a midfielder, and is only 18. Going by their website, he will play for their U23 side this season (see below), which includes the UEFA Youth League

translated from https://www.borussia.de/de/aktuelles-termine/news/borussia-news/news-detailansicht.html

U23:

If the U23 of the foals denies their first of seven planned pre-season play-games at SV Bedburdyck-Gierath tomorrow (Friday, 6:30 pm), four players will officially wear the Borussia jersey for the first time. With striker Jan-Niklas Pia (MSV Duisburg), center-back Lukas Müller (FSV Mainz 05), midfielder Jacob Italiano (Perth Glory) and goalkeeper Jonas Kersken (Rot-Weiss Essen), the young Foals have four new entries. Kaan Kurt, Jan Olschowsky, Conor Noß, Noah Holtschoppen, Louis Hiepen, Alper Arslan, Behadil "Benko" Sabani, Berk Cetin, Mawerick Dreßen and Fernando Nissen have also moved from their own U19 in the senior area.

[tommy_c12000]

All of their players who were involved vs Angers yesterday did not play today vs Bilbao, so obviously way down the pecking order coming on as a late sub today. He’s 19 on Jan 1. Will be interesting to monitor but wouldn’t hold my breath on him coming good

[elatedscum]

One of my closest friends is involved with a Bundesliga club and would be an acquaintance of Jogi Loew. He’s my go-to person for an opinion on every bundesliga player and one of less than 5 people who’s footballing opinions I would almost intrinsically trust.

Asked him about Noss about a year ago, he said he was really really highly thought of in Germany at around the age of 12 to 15 but the development has tapered off a decent bit since then, so could go either way. But certainly not a player to write off. My friend went out of his way to say what a nice kid he was and how good his attitude and work ethic was.

You’d hope he’s included in a squad for the friendlies in September so that Tom Mohan can have a decent look at him. Certainly can’t do any harm.

[liamoo11]

All of their players who were involved vs Angers yesterday did not play today vs Bilbao, so obviously way down the pecking order coming on as a late sub today. He’s 19 on Jan 1. Will be interesting to monitor but wouldn’t hold my breath on him coming good

Ah now he is under 19 for us next year so he may add to us at that level along with johanson andcsee where he goes from there

[Olé Olé]

Found Noß' Instagram page and his bio has a German and an Irish flag: https://www.instagram.com/conornoss/

[OMTY]

There's an English born lad called Stan Flaherty with Arsenal U18s. Any Irish blood I wonder.

[Olé Olé]

Stan Flahert to deceive as our senior manager...

I'll get me coat.