Séamus Coleman (D Everton b.1988)

[DannyInvincible]

From the Manchester Evening News today: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-transfer-news-coleman-12526954


Bookmakers have slashed odds on Everton right-back Seamus Coleman joining Manchester United before Tuesday's transfer deadline.

The Republic of Ireland defender is 1/3 to join United on the bookies' chalkboards, which is the shortest priced transfer of anyone moving today. United insist they are not expecting any late business in the winter window.

Former United managers David Moyes was set to target Coleman, 28, before he was sacked and Louis van Gaal expressed an interest in signing the international during his first year in charge of United but eventually settled on Matteo Darmian, having also considered England international Nathaniel Clyne.

[Charlie Darwin]

Ah the biannual Coleman to Manchester United rumour. My favourite ever since Kevin Doyle to Arsenal fell out of favour.

[DeLorean]

It makes perfect sense too seeing as Man Utd just extended Antonio Valencia's contract and Mourinho claimed that he's the best right back around!

[DannyInvincible]

Coleman unambiguously dismissed the United rumours earlier: http://www.punditarena.com/football/english-football/manchester-united/gbrennan/seamus-coleman-breaks-his-silence-on-the-surprise-reports-of-a-manchester-united-switch/


It is that time of year. I haven’t heard about the story. I am preparing for a game on Wednesday and that is all I am concentrating on.

[tricky_colour]

Sounds like it's almost a done deal.;)

[DannyInvincible]

Coleman equalises in the 39th minute for Everton away to Stoke. It's 1-1 approaching half time.

[SkStu]

Another one for Seamus Goalman although it sounds like it was a bit of a messed up cross that may or may not have been an own goal or an offside goal. Will probably get to see it during the half time break...can't wait!

[SkStu]

So he got the ball in the box on the right hand side, cut in on his left foot and hit a weak one that was aimed for the far post. Shawcross stuck out a body part and it deflected off him into the net. Was called offside as they though Lukaku had got the last touch (and it looked that way on de telly) but was correctly given in the end.

On another note, I think it was Glenn Whelan who pumped a long pass forward to Arnautovic who set up Crouch. Was a great pass if it was him. Aimless hoof if it wasn't.

[tetsujin1979]

goal changed to a Ryan Shawcross OG :(

[tricky_colour]

I think Seamus is a bit unlucky there with it being given as an own goal, I think it was probably on it's way in anyway.

Hard to be certain though.


Also looked like a shot to me more than a across but the sensible thing is to aim you cross inside the post.

Would he get an assist?

[Charlie Darwin]

goal changed to a Ryan Shawcross OG :(
Who gave it as a Coleman goal? Was pretty obvious live it was an OG. It was either going wide or going to hit Lukaku so has to be an own goal.

[tetsujin1979]

Sky Sports initially reported it as Coleman's goal.

[Charlie Darwin]

Well then it was definitely an OG :)

[geysir]

Then is it downgraded to an assist for Coleman?

[SkStu]

It would be, yeah.

[DannyInvincible]

LiveScore.com had it as Coleman's originally too.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

If the goal counted, I think that would have been just the second round of football in which Irish players scored more than Scots in the PL this season.

[tetsujin1979]

If the goal counted, I think that would have been just the second round of football in which Irish players scored more than Scots in the PL this season.

if only there were a way to prove that.
Like say, a list on the premier league's website of each round of fixtures and the goalscorers therein.
Which, of course, there is - https://www.premierleague.com/results
Get to it.

[Closed Account]

If the goal counted, I think that would have been just the second round of football in which Irish players scored more than Scots in the PL this season.
Gameweek 6 and Gameweek 18 but I think the real question is why would we compare ourselves to the Scots, or in particular why do you continue to do so. It made sense when they were in our group but why now?
Goals by Scots=28
Goals by Welsh=15
Goals by Irish=13
Goals by N.Irish=8
Goals by English=188

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

I just think it's a peculiar anomaly. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't trade our qualifying record for theirs.

[Closed Account]

I just think it's a peculiar anomaly. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't trade our qualifying record for theirs.
Stats are a bit better if you look back to when football was invented in 1992
https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/goals?se=54
Scotland = 962 in 106 players
Ireland = 932 in 94 players
Wales = 873 in 65 players
N. Ireland = 234 in 35 players

Might stick the 94 in sporcle and see how people get on.

[EAFC_rdfl]

That would be some way to waste a day :-) name the 94 Irish premier league scorers!

[geysir]

Robbie has scored 13.5% of the Irish total (since football was invented).

[Charlie Darwin]

What percentage did he score before football was invented?

[tetsujin1979]

It's one of those theoretical numbers, like pi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi), or e (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_(mathematical_constant)), or i (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginary_unit)

[Charlie Darwin]

Those are letters, tets.

[geysir]

What percentage did he score before football was invented?

From the age of 5 onwards, with his prodigy cred already established, Robbie was too busy planning out his football career.

[tetsujin1979]

Those are letters, tets.
Look again

[Charlie Darwin]

I see somebody's had a hotlinking crash course with The Fly :)

[Eminence Grise]

It's one of those theoretical numbers, like pi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi), or e (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_(mathematical_constant)), or i (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginary_unit)

I'm not particularly mathematical, but I was sure that e i always needed an addy o.

[DeLorean]

Coleman interview on Football Focus (http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/38856316) tomorrow.

[tricky_colour]

I'm not particularly mathematical, but I was sure that e i always needed an addy o.

You need to repeat both before adding the o. As we know, Old MacDonald had a farm e (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_%28mathematical_constant%29) i (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginary_unit) e (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_%28mathematical_constant%29) i (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginary_unit)o.


Interestingly e to the i e to the i o may well work out as -1 but don't quote me on that.

[Eminence Grise]

E I Addy O
We're gonna win the cup.

[SkStu]

E got an assist for Lukaku's third.

[tricky_colour]

Great assist not as good as McCarthy goal, I think he even provided his own assist?

[tricky_colour]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ftxZIY-WxM

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Question: Are you looking at Seamus Coleman as a replacement for Lahm?
Ancelotti: No.
Cue laughter.
And relief on blue half of Merseyside.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bayern-munich-seamus-coleman-carlo-12701307

If he was born in England they would probably bid £40m for him.

The same club that signed Dale Jennings, who has been out of the game for 13 months after leaving Milton Keynes Dons.

[tetsujin1979]

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bayern-munich-seamus-coleman-carlo-12701307
here's a clip of Ancelotti taking the question: https://twitter.com/AffariDiCalcio/status/838855813225660417
Ancelotti just answers "No" to the question, it's unintentionally good comedic timing, the laughter comes from the press in attendance


If he was born in England they would probably bid £40m for him.Bayern have never paid £40m for a player, no matter where he was born. Their transfer record, Javi Martinez, was signed for €40M, about £34m


The same club that signed Dale Jennings, who has been out of the game for 13 months after leaving Milton Keynes Dons.
He left MK Dons more than three years after he left Bayern - and played for Barnsley in between - how is that relevant?

[DannyInvincible]

here's a clip of Ancelotti taking the question: https://twitter.com/AffariDiCalcio/status/838855813225660417
Ancelotti just answers "No" to the question, it's unintentionally good comedic timing, the laughter comes from the press in attendance

I don't think the laughter was directed at Coleman, nor do I think it was even to suggest that those in attendance felt Coleman would necessarily be out of his depth at Bayern either.

The laughter was seemingly due to Ancelotti's abrupt and to-the-point answer to a presumptuous question that came out of nowhere, as far as those present were concerned. I doubt Coleman was on anyone's mind until the Irish journalist (at least, the accent sounds Irish and the theme of his question would suggest a local interest) who asked the question mentioned Coleman. You can see why an Irish journalist's localised focus might lead to such a question - we probably attach undue significance to idle rumours we've heard about our own players - but it undoubtedly just seemed like a comically parochial, irrelevant or unforeseen question and exchange otherwise for the other (mostly English and German?) journalists. The Irish journalist could alternatively have framed the question more generally and asked Ancelotti if he was looking at any specific players to replace Lahm; that would probably have seemed a more ordinary or less obscure/presumptuous question instead of blatantly and without a hint of subtlety attempting to make the conversation about Coleman before being immediately shut down in his attempt.

[Charlie Darwin]

Managers can't really talk about players from other teams anyway. It's all a bit of nonsense but I guess the online media got a few hits or whatever.

[DannyInvincible]

In celebration of World Down Syndrome Day, Séamus met participants from Everton in the Community’s Down syndrome team to take part in a game of football: https://www.facebook.com/Everton/videos/10154197480606277/

I assume he must have done this before joining up with the international squad on Sunday, but a nice gesture nonetheless. Top lad.

[pineapple stu]

Oh well. The road to recovery starts now I guess.

Confirmed he's going in for surgery today (https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2017/0325/862519-coleman-surgery/). Not for the last time either, I'd say. No immediate idea of how long he'll be out for, but you'd imagine he's in a race to make the start of next season at the very best. Could well miss the remainder of the qualifying campaign.

[DannyInvincible]

He'll be out for at least six months, according to Dan McDonnell: http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/update-seamus-coleman-facing-at-least-six-months-out-as-he-undergoes-surgery-on-double-leg-fracture-35564624.html


Seamus Coleman suffered a double fracture of his right leg in last night's World Cup qualifier with Wales.

Coleman was due to be operated on this morning and will have screws inserted in his right leg to help the injury heal.

The Irish skipper is facing at least six months on the sidelines after sustaining the serious injury from a dreadful Neil Taylor challenge.

[Lionel Ritchie]

"At least six months" sounds like a worst case scenario to me. He is in his late 20's so it will take a bit longer but I reckon he'll be back well inside 6 months. All depends on complexity (or lack thereof) with the breaks of course. They'll be well into pre-season 4 months from now. I wouldn't rule him out of at least joining it at some point.

[seanfhear]

Best wishes to Seamas . I hope it all goes well for him .

[tetsujin1979]

Ramsey broke his leg in February, and was back playing the following November.
Henrik Larsson was out for eight months after his leg break.
Optimistically we could see Coleman play again after Christmas.

[Philly]

Good luck with the recovery Seamus. There will be a seat to Russia kept for you.

[BonnieShels]

I got a combo of the Scottish Independence/Trump/Brexit dread when i woke up earlier and remembered. Still gutted.

Hon Séamus!

[tricky_colour]

I think we can take some comfort that Arron Ramsey played against Ireland last night following this break.

That is our Glenn laying on his healing hands!

http://i50.tinypic.com/909lk5.jpg

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Tricky - "don't post images of the tackle that broke Coleman's leg" wasn't an invitation to post images of other, similar incidents

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Sorry about that but I'd seen the image in a few newspapers, ie the Sun to name but one. I guess that influenced me in the wrong way.

[liamoo11]

Best of luck to Seamus. 6 months is seriously optimistic. Alan judge is near 12 months now and not doing contact training yet. Better to rehab longer and come back psychologically and physically strong and confident