Séamus Coleman (D Everton b.1988)

[Predator]

Coleman has had a tremendous season. Haven't caught many Everton games, but I saw Coleman stifle and terrorize Ashley Cole all season and there are not many people who can do that. That doesn't even take into consideration his shove on John Terry. Great guy.

[DeLorean]

In a sense Coleman is lucky enough to be shortlisted. It is supposed to be for the calendar year and he's only really been a PL player since August. Just shows the impact he's had in that short time I suppose. I think McCarthy is more deserving considering his contribution over the whole year. Gareth Bale should walk it anyway if there's any justice in the world, which obviously there's not! He should get the overall award too in my opinion, with Vidic his only real threat. Is it just me or is Jack Wilshere one of the most unlikable players around?

[Dodge]

In a sense Coleman is lucky enough to be shortlisted. It is supposed to be for the calendar year and he's only really been a PL player since August.

Its not. its for the 2010/2011 season

[DeLorean]

Its not. its for the 2010/2011 season

Oh right, well I'm just going to go rethink everything so!:o

[paul_oshea]

In a sense Coleman is lucky enough to be shortlisted. It is supposed to be for the calendar year and he's only really been a PL player since August. Just shows the impact he's had in that short time I suppose. I think McCarthy is more deserving considering his contribution over the whole year. Gareth Bale should walk it anyway if there's any justice in the world, which obviously there's not! He should get the overall award too in my opinion, with Vidic his only real threat. Is it just me or is Jack Wilshere one of the most unlikable players around?

Vidic has been muck recently, without ferdinand actually. I never knew he had such a lack of pace.

[tetsujin1979]

Vidic has been muck recently, without ferdinand actually. I never knew he had such a lack of pace.
really? even after Torres repeatedly skinned him when he was with Liverpool?

[SkStu]

In a sense Coleman is lucky enough to be shortlisted. It is supposed to be for the calendar year and he's only really been a PL player since August. Just shows the impact he's had in that short time I suppose. I think McCarthy is more deserving considering his contribution over the whole year. Gareth Bale should walk it anyway if there's any justice in the world, which obviously there's not! He should get the overall award too in my opinion, with Vidic his only real threat. Is it just me or is Jack Wilshere one of the most unlikable players around?

Bale had a few excellent weeks but hasnt done it over the season in my humble opinion... what about Charlie Adam?

[paul_oshea]

really? even after Torres repeatedly skinned him when he was with Liverpool?

I thought he lacked a quick turn of accelleration but not actual pace, he has neither.

[Junior]

Bale had a few excellent weeks but hasnt done it over the season in my humble opinion... what about Charlie Adam?

Had to check his D.O.B there, thought he was much older. Actually only 25, thought he was about 30 - still too old for young player of the year though!

[the bear]

hes a scottsh 25. must of had a rough paper route

[Predator]

Bale had a few excellent weeks but hasnt done it over the season in my humble opinion... I'd agree that Bale wasn't consistent over the season, but he has been one of Spurs' most influential players despite that. He had some amazing games, particularly against Inter.

[Charlie Darwin]

Another slightly patronising bit from Moyes about Coleman's lack of senior football before joining Everton:

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2011/04/08/-most-improved-player-

The Sky Sports presenter yesterday mentioned he'd been bought from "Sliggow Rovers." I almost went all Richard Keys on her but I managed to restrain myself.

Coleman is also missing from today's game with an ankle injury - seemingly a recurrence of the one that kept him out of Ireland's games.

[tetsujin1979]

Everton 3-0 up now, could be devastating for Wolves

[paul_oshea]

wolves are going down.Micks own fault for not buying defenders

[Drumcondra 69er]

Another slightly patronising bit from Moyes about Coleman's lack of senior football before joining Everton:

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2011/04/08/-most-improved-player-

The Sky Sports presenter yesterday mentioned he'd been bought from "Sliggow Rovers." I almost went all Richard Keys on her but I managed to restrain myself.

Coleman is also missing from today's game with an ankle injury - seemingly a recurrence of the one that kept him out of Ireland's games.

What's patronising about that? There's a huge leap from playing LOI to the English Premier League. Plus he wasn't even playing at LOI level that long either....

[SkStu]

Had to check his D.O.B there, thought he was much older. Actually only 25, thought he was about 30 - still too old for young player of the year though!

sorry man, misunderstanding - i was referring to Bale for the overall award and then suggesting Adam for the overall award (not that he'd ever get it!)

[DeLorean]

Bale had a few excellent weeks but hasnt done it over the season in my humble opinion... what about Charlie Adam?

That's because he was out injured a lot this season. I think he was the best player over the calendar year though, which I mistakenly thought the award was for, must have got mixed up with the world player award or something. Bale only started getting recognition after his performances against Inter, but he's been top class since breaking into the team in February (I think it was) when Assou-Ekkoto was out injured, and was the main reason Spurs qualified for the Champions Legaue.


really? even after Torres repeatedly skinned him when he was with Liverpool?

There's way too much made out of Torres giving Vidic nightmares. One match he gave him big trouble and scored a couple of goals in other matches. Torres didn't get a kick in his first three matches against United. Played well in the 4-1, dispossessing Vidic for the equaliser. It was Gerrard who got Vidic sent off. He scored in his next two fixtures alright, one of which was completely Ferdinand's fault. Vidic has got the better of Torres in most of the matches against each other but people only tend to remember goals. Obviously he's quicker than him, but he's quicker than most in fairness.

[Charlie Darwin]

Came off the bench today and won a penalty. Setanta correspondent said he lifted the crowd with his mazy runs.

[Predator]

I wonder if Coleman is a better winger than he is a full back? He's able to terrorize the likes of Ashley Cole, so is there any great need for him to revert to RB?

[tommy_c12000]

I wonder if Coleman is a better winger than he is a full back? He's able to terrorize the likes of Ashley Cole, so is there any great need for him to revert to RB?

I see him as a potential world class right back if he can improve his defending. I really hope Moyes reverts him to right back in the pre-season

[peadar1987]

I see him as a potential world class right back if he can improve his defending. I really hope Moyes reverts him to right back in the pre-season

The way Trap sets us up, we're not getting much from the centre of midfield. We need all the creativity we can get from the full backs.

[Noelys Guitar]

Good piece here from Seamus in the Telgraph,
Lesser-known names have emerged as key figures at Everton as well, with Irish winger Seamus Coleman, 22, shortlisted for the PFA Young Player award. Coleman attributed his success to a grounding in violent games of street football on his housing estate in Donegal.

"The games were so competitive," he said. "Up the hill was where the other team came from. We were the Killers, they were the All Stars. We were all mates and went to school together but we weren't when the games started. We'd kill each other and there would be fights when the games were going on. They were battles, believe me.

''I haven't had a whole load of coaching. I just go for it. I just want to get past my full-back. If I don't do it the first time, I'll keep trying until I do."

[DannyInvincible]

Coleman on the bench today again for Everton against Manchester City. No place for Shane Duffy, however. Given on the bench for City.

[Charlie Darwin]

He'll be on sooner or later. Everton haven't really been in this match.

[ken foree]

ha, wonderful play by coleman when he came on today, to sprint back and tackle the ball off possibly the most irritating player in the world, mario balotelli. with mancini going into labour on the touchline just behind them. that said, coleman took a dive to win a free shortly after.. not on.

[paul_oshea]

did anyone read Coleman and Neville on twitter

[shellyriver]

Cheers O'Shea, don't follow twitter but checked it out after looking on here.

Re Coleman's sentiments, quite right to. He deserves a first team place in Ireland - no doubt. Anyone who thinks, Kelly, Whelan, St Ledger, McShane, Lawerence etc should be in before Coleman, needs there head read! Of all Irish Republic players, Coleman is playing in a team ranked at the highest level in England. Therefore, he merits inclusion on his ability. Re 'Trap's Formula' -- Coleman has proven to be hugely adaptable and prepared to play in any given role. So Trap needs to fit him. Compared to the farce against Macedonia, the Italy, game -- while Ireland defended deeply and, admittedly it was a friendly, the inclusion of Coleman, gave Ireland options from the back, and it was his surging run that would supply the link up for Andrews to pass to Hunt, who bombed down the wing and supplied Cox. More of the same please. Simples

[Charlie Darwin]

Anyone who thinks, Kelly, Whelan, St Ledger, McShane, Lawerence etc should be in before Coleman, needs there head read!
I need to have my head read for not thinking Coleman should be playing centre mid or centre half? He's a good player but he hasn't got the defensive side of his game to the required standard for playing full back at international level and he's not a better option than McGeady, Duff or Hunt on the flanks.

[Stuttgart88]

What were Coleman's sentiments?

I think there's plenty of doubt about whether he merits a first team place. John O'Shea is our best and most reliable full back by a mile. McGeady and Duff are our best two wide options. Hunt put in two great shifts (one on the right, one on the left) in our last 2 games. Why on earth would you mention Whelan and St. Ledger above? A central midfielder and a centre-back? Seamie has not proved "hugely adaptable". He can play RM and RB, and he can play attacking and defensive, but I'd never let him near central-midfield, for example.

I like Coleman but don't think he's a first team shoo-in by any means. If we had two stronger CMs then maybe. PO'S referred to this a while back. I think Coleman is close though.

[SwanVsDalton]

it was his surging run that would supply the link up for Andrews to pass to Hunt, who bombed down the wing and supplied Cox. More of the same please. Simples

Eh can't remember the build up, but Ward supplied a great long ball to Hunt and I'm pretty sure Ward simply got the ball by coming out of defence. Don't think Coleman had anything to do with it.

EDIT - Just watched it, you're right, Coleman does come out of defence with the ball quite neatly before the ball finds its way to Ward. So fair point. Still wouldn't say it was really instrumental to the goal though - seen Duff, Hunt and McGeady do the same thing often.

[EAFC_rdfl]

Cheers O'Shea, don't follow twitter but checked it out after looking on here.

Re Coleman's sentiments, quite right to. He deserves a first team place in Ireland - no doubt. Anyone who thinks, Kelly, Whelan, St Ledger, McShane, Lawerence etc should be in before Coleman, needs there head read! Of all Irish Republic players, Coleman is playing in a team ranked at the highest level in England. Therefore, he merits inclusion on his ability. Re 'Trap's Formula' -- Coleman has proven to be hugely adaptable and prepared to play in any given role. So Trap needs to fit him. Compared to the farce against Macedonia, the Italy, game -- while Ireland defended deeply and, admittedly it was a friendly, the inclusion of Coleman, gave Ireland options from the back, and it was his surging run that would supply the link up for Andrews to pass to Hunt, who bombed down the wing and supplied Cox. More of the same please. Simples


What were Coleman's sentiments?

I think there's plenty of doubt about whether he merits a first team place. John O'Shea is our best and most reliable full back by a mile. McGeady and Duff are our best two wide options. Hunt put in two great shifts (one on the right, one on the left) in our last 2 games. Why on earth would you mention Whelan and St. Ledger above? A central midfielder and a centre-back? Seamie has not proved "hugely adaptable". He can play RM and RB, and he can play attacking and defensive, but I'd never let him near central-midfield, for example.

I like Coleman but don't think he's a first team shoo-in by any means. If we had two stronger CMs then maybe. PO'S referred to this a while back. I think Coleman is close though.


Just to point out incase people start reading into the above quote re 'colemans sentiments' as suggesting he has been ranting/moaning on twitter about not being in the Ireland team, thats not the case. I follow him and I think I have seen nearly all his tweets as I only follow a handful of people. He never once complained, and put some great comments up after Italy - along the lines of how a year ago he never thought he'd be playing against them and players like pirlo.
His p1ss taking with phil neville is great craic to read though!!

[paul_oshea]

he really wound him up in fairness but as one of his townies said you don't and shouldn't be doing that to senior players let alone the captain

[Charlie Darwin]

Looked like banter to me.

[SwanVsDalton]

Yeah seems totally innocent to me as well. P Dot can fair dish out the slagging anyway, so he should definitely take it!

[EAFC_rdfl]

btw its been going on for weeks back and forward, so its definitely a bit of craic

[Stuttgart88]

Maybe Trap should get a Twitter acct. That way he can call up the young Irish players and get an immediate response.

[shellyriver]

your having a laugh aren't you. I am talk about starting from a position of dreamland and then attempting to link into reality! Great if there are two good CMs -- but by your logic Ireland would fail to employ a quality winger on the basis that the two present CMs are suspect. Coleman has shown ability to link from back, midfield and forward down the wing. Its up to the dynamic duo to use their immense positional awareness, skill and pace to pick out the best options before them! Lucky you think he's close, I am f**k it, by extension he should be starting for Chelsea or Man U -- Oh that's right, all the Irish players with Man U can't hold a first team place or get into the Irish squad proper. PS - Did you see the Italy game?

[lionelhutz]

your having a laugh aren't you. I am talk about starting from a position of dreamland and then attempting to link into reality! Great if there are two good CMs -- but by your logic Ireland would fail to employ a quality winger on the basis that the two present CMs are suspect. Coleman has shown ability to link from back, midfield and forward down the wing. Its up to the dynamic duo to use their immense positional awareness, skill and pace to pick out the best options before them! Lucky you think he's close, I am f**k it, by extension he should be starting for Chelsea or Man U -- Oh that's right, all the Irish players with Man U can't hold a first team place or get into the Irish squad proper. PS - Did you see the Italy game?

I've read this post a few times to try and make sense of it...but no luck. Anyone else having the same problem?

[Charlie Darwin]

your having a laugh aren't you. I am talk about starting from a position of dreamland and then attempting to link into reality! Great if there are two good CMs -- but by your logic Ireland would fail to employ a quality winger on the basis that the two present CMs are suspect. Coleman has shown ability to link from back, midfield and forward down the wing. Its up to the dynamic duo to use their immense positional awareness, skill and pace to pick out the best options before them! Lucky you think he's close, I am f**k it, by extension he should be starting for Chelsea or Man U -- Oh that's right, all the Irish players with Man U can't hold a first team place or get into the Irish squad proper. PS - Did you see the Italy game?
Are you talking to somebody in particular?

[Sullivinho]

Are you talking to somebody in particular?

I think it was aimed at 'Lucky'.

[Supreme feet]

but by your logic Ireland would fail to employ a quality winger on the basis that the two present CMs are suspect.

I'm assuming you're having a go at Stutts, and he's not saying that at all. He's saying that we can't employ Coleman at Right-back because we don't have the players to dominate possession in midfield, we're going to spend most of our games without the ball, and we need full-backs who can, first and foremost, defend. Unfortunately, an all-out-attacking right-back isn't a luxury we can afford. Even Kevin Foley - a superior 'footballer' to Kelly and McShane - was found wanting defensively in that position. So would Coleman at the present time.

We're already employing several quality wingers, including Coleman, by the way.

[shakermaker1982]

I've been following the twitter war the last couple of weeks and it's entertaining. Just banter.

[Stuttgart88]

I've read this post a few times to try and make sense of it...but no luck. Anyone else having the same problem?

Me too. I have absolutely no idea what the post is saying.

I understood the "Did you see the Italy game?" bit.

Yes, I did see it.

[SwanVsDalton]

your having a laugh aren't you. I am talk about starting from a position of dreamland and then attempting to link into reality! Great if there are two good CMs -- but by your logic Ireland would fail to employ a quality winger on the basis that the two present CMs are suspect. Coleman has shown ability to link from back, midfield and forward down the wing. Its up to the dynamic duo to use their immense positional awareness, skill and pace to pick out the best options before them! Lucky you think he's close, I am f**k it, by extension he should be starting for Chelsea or Man U -- Oh that's right, all the Irish players with Man U can't hold a first team place or get into the Irish squad proper. PS - Did you see the Italy game? HAN SOLO

http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/7/74/Greedo_solo.jpg

[the bear]

haha i had a look at there texts there , very funny , coleman slaughtered him, these are my favourites:






Neville : sub for ireland-its like being sub for man utd youth team! Although u r a 50k signing from sligo bless!


Coleman: yeah just glad to be here fizzer! Never thought I'd be so lucky!
u looking forward to next season.. U must be glad garys retired? Ur family might come watch u on a saturday now!
actually they will prob just stay in and watch him on sky sports instead of watching u!


Neville: have a great summer pal-reserves report back 5th july!


Coleman: is that what date he told u.. Internationals not back until the 11th so see ya then! Night skipper x

[BonnieShels]

That's class. That's quite the cutting retort there from seamie. Brilliant.

[paul_oshea]

Ya he really got him.

And about 15 yrs of good luck and being on the bench as a come back for see you are on the bench again tonight. Really did get him.

[Charlie Darwin]

Moyes looking to use Coleman as a full back next season:


Everton manager David Moyes will look to develop Seamus Coleman's qualities in defence as he plans to use the 22-year-old in his more familiar position in the coming season.

The Republic of Ireland international found himself pressed into service on the right of midfield due to injuries and did well enough to be named the club's young player of the year and get a PFA Young Player nomination.

However, Moyes said it was not a long-term plan and he was looking forward to Coleman having more of a run at right-back in the coming campaign.

'We have still got to see whether he can cope as a full-back in the Premier League but what we can say is that he can play as a winger if we need him,' he said.

'There will be a little bit of a change over next season as we will look to move him a bit further back and maybe he can develop into a right-back.

'In the first six or seven months of last season he gave us great impetus, he was the one we were looking to in spells.

'That fresh, real honest, just-glad-to-be-on-the-pitch approach was something the supporters recognised and appreciated.

'I think in the last few months he went off a little bit, I think after the last time he came back from international duty he did not come back firing like he was before.'

Moyes added on evertonfc.com: 'Sometimes there are things about Seamus when you can see why he was a €120,000 player and then there are other times you will look at him and say that is great business.

'Overall, his progress for us - from his loan move to Blackpool to coming back to us - you can see the strides he has made.

'He really has stepped up massive levels in a short space of time and we are hoping for him to keep that going over the coming seasons.'

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2011/0623/colemans.html

[tommy_c12000]

That's grest news. Would be fantastic if he developed his defending and was their first choice RB next season. I see him as a RB not a RW

[Sullivinho]

Positive stuff.

Although I was concerned that Seamus' price and bargain status may not get it's obligatory reference but Moyes got it in there with seconds to spare.