James McCarthy M free agent b.1990

[DeLorean]

Can't see McCarthy at Liverpool myself. I reckon he will be playing for a champions league side. To think Rodgers spunked £15 million on Joe Allen but i suppose he bought well in January.

That was a big enough amount alright for what they got. They really can't afford too many more like that after Dalglish's 'spunking' rampage.

[KK77]

That was a big enough amount alright for what they got. They really can't afford too many more like that after Dalglish's 'spunking' rampage.

Yeah like all managers you sign some bad and some good.

[DeLorean]

That's a very nice way of putting it.



Player
Signed
Cost
Came from


Andy Carroll
31 January 2011
35,000,000
Newcastle United


Luis Suarez
31 January 2011
22,700,000
Ajax


Stewart Downing
July 15 2011
20,000,000
Aston Villa


Jordan Henderson
9 June 2011
16,000,000
Sunderland


Charlie Adam
July 2011
7,500,000
Blackpool


Sebastien Coates
30 August 2011
7,000,000
Nacional


Jose Enrique
12 August 2011
6,000,000
Newcastle United


TOTAL = £114,200,000




Goal.com waying up where the bookies see McCarthy heading:

Where next for JamesMcCarthy? (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2995/betting/2013/05/16/3982638/betting-special-where-next-for-james-mccarthy?source=breakingnews&ICID=HP_BN_2)


Would he get his game at Arsenal? I'd rate him higher than Aaron Ramsey but Jack Wilshere is seen as something of a massiah himself.

[KK77]

That's a very nice way of putting it.



Player
Signed
Cost
Came from


Andy Carroll
31 January 2011
35,000,000
Newcastle United


Luis Suarez
31 January 2011
22,700,000
Ajax


Stewart Downing
July 15 2011
20,000,000
Aston Villa


Jordan Henderson
9 June 2011
16,000,000
Sunderland


Charlie Adam
July 2011
7,500,000
Blackpool


Sebastien Coates
30 August 2011
7,000,000
Nacional


Jose Enrique
12 August 2011
6,000,000
Newcastle United


TOTAL = £114,200,000




Goal.com waying up where the bookies see McCarthy heading:

Where next for JamesMcCarthy? (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2995/betting/2013/05/16/3982638/betting-special-where-next-for-james-mccarthy?source=breakingnews&ICID=HP_BN_2)


Would he get his game at Arsenal? I'd rate him higher than Aaron Ramsey but Jack Wilshere is seen as something of a massiah himself.

Hard to know. Talk of Chelsea as well in the press.

[DeLorean]

Staying clear of the Chelsea and Manchester City graveyards should be a priority anyway.

[BonnieShels]

That's a very nice way of putting it.



Player
Signed
Cost
Came from


Andy Carroll
31 January 2011
35,000,000
Newcastle United


Luis Suarez
31 January 2011
22,700,000
Ajax


Stewart Downing
July 15 2011
20,000,000
Aston Villa


Jordan Henderson
9 June 2011
16,000,000
Sunderland


Charlie Adam
July 2011
7,500,000
Blackpool


Sebastien Coates
30 August 2011
7,000,000
Nacional


Jose Enrique
12 August 2011
6,000,000
Newcastle United


TOTAL = £114,200,000




Goal.com waying up where the bookies see McCarthy heading:

Where next for JamesMcCarthy? (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2995/betting/2013/05/16/3982638/betting-special-where-next-for-james-mccarthy?source=breakingnews&ICID=HP_BN_2)


Would he get his game at Arsenal? I'd rate him higher than Aaron Ramsey but Jack Wilshere is seen as something of a massiah himself.


Weighing*

Who signed Aquilani?

[nigel-harps1954]

I'd like to see him at Everton or somewhere similar.

Don't think he'd get enough game time at a top 4 club, where as a solid top 10 team would suit him excellently. Even somewhere like Stoke.


I see him moving to Aston Villa though..for some reason.

[BonnieShels]

Spurs. I would like him at Spurs. Everton are an unknown as we don't know who the next coach will be.

[KK77]

I'd like to see him at Everton or somewhere similar.

Don't think he'd get enough game time at a top 4 club, where as a solid top 10 team would suit him excellently. Even somewhere like Stoke.


I see him moving to Aston Villa though..for some reason.

I suppose if Roberto goes to Everton it could be a move. Spurs is also a good call but would he get the game time? Can't see him chancing Villa even though they should improve a lot next season.

[peadar1987]

He wouldn't get on the pitch for Stoke, not with Pulis in charge. Maybe wide on the right, but he isn't solid enough defensively for TP to play him in the centre.

It would be great for Ireland to have him alongside Gibson in central midfield for Everton.

[DeLorean]

Who signed Aquilani?

That would have been Rafa.

[KK77]

Weighing*

Who signed Aquilani?

The man who won his third european trophy last night. I know Fergie and Sir Bob have four european trophies but have any other managers got four. Trap maybe?

[Bungle]

I'd like him at either Liverpool or Everton (depending on who their next manager is). I think Everton have a very good bunch of pros and it would be nice to see what he could do with Gibson. Obviously, they could lose a few players, but they should stay a top 7-8 club, unless they are pilfered for 4-5 players. I really think Liverpool are going places with Rodgers. They're playing lovely football with a young team and there has been a very noticeable improvement in their results in the second half of the season, even allowing for the monumental f*ck up that they have. I've been really impressed with Coutinho and Sturridge. With the right signings, they could make the Champions League next season.

Spurs would be interesting also. I really rate Villas Boas as a manager and they have the foundations of a very good team there. I actually think that Villas Boas could build a great team there in the coming seasons, provided he isn't poached by a more prestigious club.

Chelsea and Man City would be terrible moves for him. United will be an absolute pressure cooker next season and I'm not sure it would be the best place for a lad at James's stage of development.

[Olé Olé]

I suppose if Roberto goes to Everton it could be a move. Spurs is also a good call but would he get the game time? Can't see him chancing Villa even though they should improve a lot next season.

I fancy this. Martinez is unlikely to stay at Wigan. If he moves to an English club then I'd fancy him bringing McCarthy with him (Kone and McManaman could move on and possibly follow, but I don't think McManaman has enough football played at the top-level and he'd be stunted at a bigger club in this regard).

It's a year or two too early for McCarthy to move to a big club. The development of aggression to match his poise is more likely at a safe club like Everton or even a side like Swansea. A big-club environment pressure-cooker might not be the place to do this. For some reason, Darron Gibson's development and time as a reserve at Man United keeps coming into my mind whenever I picture McCarthy at one of the big clubs.

[Serb]

The man who won his third european trophy last night. I know Fergie and Sir Bob have four european trophies but have any other managers got four. Trap maybe?

Trapattoni has four European trophies as a manager for sure, 3x UEFA Cups and 1x European Cup. There's another manager called Nereo Rocco from the 60's - 70's who won two European Cups and two Cup Winners Cups. Mourinho, Benitez and Cruyff & Udo Lattek are on three European trophy wins. Can't think of any other managers who have won more three or more, although there's certainly more managers on three wins.

[Charlie Darwin]

Jupp Heynckes has three as well, but two are intertoto cups.

[DeLorean]

Trapattoni has four European trophies as a manager for sure, 3x UEFA Cups and 1x European Cup.

Trap also won a Cup Winner's Cup so he has 5, a clean sweep if you include the Intercontinental and Super Cups. He's surely the only manager to have won everything with the same club. Also league championships with five different clubs in four different countries. Most notably though, The Carling Nations Cup.

[jbyrne]

Trap also won a Cup Winner's Cup so he has 5, a clean sweep if you include the Intercontinental and Super Cups. He's surely the only manager to have won everything with the same club. Also league championships with five different clubs in four different countries. Most notably though, The Carling Nations Cup.

such a good cv for such a dreadful manager :rolleyes:

[ArdeeBhoy]

Not dreadful. Just way past his 'use-by-date'...

[tricky_colour]

What do you think about the Preaknesss? All Irish have the horseplay in the blood and it drives me crazy that you all don't care about the triple crown. Orb looks nasty but give me a different horse tricky.

(long post off topic post alert!)

Well I wish I had said Oxbow because he won the race, Orb came 4th!!
Going by the form Orb look like he should win but as so often is the case in horse racing the form is not worth the paper it is written on!!
That is why I tend to avoid anything short priced, I'd rather stick a few pennies on an outsider then you don't look so stupid if it loses and
a genius if it wins!!
He got a bit boxed in but even so he looked nothing like the horse he was in previous races.

Anyhow I never got round to looking at the form for the race, wish I had now actually!!

This is how it goes, the winner Oxbow didn't have any decent recent form, but if you look back 5 races you see he did win one, but 10 lengths, that is pretty good.

Furthermore the horse he beat then was Golden Soul who came second to Orb in his last outing, Orb beat him by 2 lengths.

So if you put those two pieces of form together you have a good case for saying Oxbow should beat Orb by 10 -2 = 8 lengths!!

He actually beat him by 9 lengths!!

So it was all the in the form had I bothered to look.

I think he won at 15-1 which was a dammed good price given the above.

I am actually annoyed I never looked because a bet like that is right up my street,
I always used to look for anomalies in the from like that and I would say it is 50/50 whether the horse runs to his good form so 15-1 is a steal.

Dammed good opportunity missed, but I did look but it is really hard to find form for USA form, I goggled it but best I could find was USA sites selling the form.

Then today I had a bit of a brain wave and looked on the UK racing post site just stuck the name in and the form for all the horse was there.

Bit late now of course missed opportunity to show what a great gambler I am,
and make you a bit of money ;)

[gustavo]

Not dreadful. Just way past his 'use-by-date'...

Just to let you know your full stop button is broken you might want to get that fixed.

[Closed Account 2]

The man who won his third european trophy last night. I know Fergie and Sir Bob have four european trophies but have any other managers got four. Trap maybe?

I can't think of any, I know Happel has two European Cups and was the manager of losing finalists in the Cup Winners Cup and UEFA Cup. Lattek has won all 3 (EC with Bayern, UEFA with Gladbach and CWC with Barcelona), Rinus Michels has a EC, UEFA Cup (or Fairs Cup as it then was) and Euro 88 (International teams).

[DeLorean]

Rinus Michels has a EC, UEFA Cup (or Fairs Cup as it then was) and Euro 88 (International teams).

Del Bosque has a nice mixture of two Champions Leagues as well as a World Cup and European Championship also. Possibly the most impressive of all club/international combinations?

I suppose that Euro 2008 win was probably the most difficult from a Spanish point of view though under Aragonés.

[ArdeeBhoy]

Just to let you know your full stop button is broken you might want to get that fixed.

Huh??

[Crosby87]

I don't get it either for what its worth Art. POSH and the like clearly did.

Tricky you should get all over the Belmont Stakes in 3 weeks.

I saw one of your guys Northern Country men at the Rangers game last night, Liam Neeson. He has a big head in person. Seems a bit gruff.

[DeLorean]

Gustavo was saying that a full stop is only one dot. Not three...

[ArdeeBhoy]

Except my post (as quoted) was 'edited'. And not by me.

Anyway, it was never intended as a single full-stop...
:rolleyes:

[The Fly]

Except my post (as quoted) was 'edited'. And not by me.

Anyway, it was never intended as a single full-stop...
:rolleyes:

Oh right, you just have a, er, hard-on for ellipses then...:rolleyes:

[BonnieShels]

That would have been Rafa.

Cheers

[ArdeeBhoy]

Oh right, you just have a, er, hard-on for ellipsis then...:rolleyes:

You mean ellipses...
;)

Hardly a crime.

[Junior]

? key broken as well. Also ,er, comma combo. In fact just trash the laptop Ardee you'd be better off, well we all would be in truth.

Criminal.

[ArdeeBhoy]

That reads even worse than one of my posts...
;)
You out on Sunday?

[Junior]

Nope, off on hols so it will be the wireless for me!! Will PM (actually your inbox is full)

[paul_oshea]

I can see many reusing this phrase "McCarthy always suggests that time is on his side." Thats an eloquent way of putting it. I like it.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/assured-mccarthy-can-take-his-pick-of-elite-clubs-29309869.html

[BonnieShels]

I think it's been a very positive week for all concerned.

He's the fulcrum of this side and clearly the next captain.

[gastric]

I think it's been a very positive week for all concerned.

He's the fulcrum of this side and clearly the next captain.

Not sure if this supposed article about Trap is questioning McCarthy's commitment, but it certainly doesn't come across as completely positive. Trap's trap does not always help with team morale IMO!


http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/giovanni-trapattoni-wants-mccarthy-to-bite-when-it-comes-to-big-apple-1.1416075

[BonnieShels]

He's starting to annoy me with these jibes and the constant reference to us not having "great players". Gah.

[ArdeeBhoy]

Why?

Because we don't currently.

[Stuttgart88]

His press conference last week annoyed me. "We have no Messi or Ronaldo but we have our attitude and seestem". Defeatist twaddle - especially in advance of Georgia and Faroes - and frankly it highlights his mistrust of anyone we have available who can actually play football.

[ArdeeBhoy]

C'mon though. Does anyone actually take these pronouncements seriously?

He's just a silly old man letting off steam...
;)

[gastric]

C'mon though. Does anyone actually take these pronouncements seriously?


He's just a silly old man letting off steam...
;)

True, but he also has the potential to alienate players - ask Darron!

[ArdeeBhoy]

Tbf, Gibson and Trapp were almost as bad as each other, on this one.

But ultimately Trapp should know better. Which is why I tend to dismiss his ramblings...

[Crosby87]

What are the odds he doesn't come to the states to play spain? That article made me nervous. It would start the whole thing up again....good grief.

[ArdeeBhoy]

Who cares?

We're gonna get humped anyway. In a fixture even more pointless than Georgia.

[BonnieShels]

C'mon though. Does anyone actually take these pronouncements seriously?

He's just a silly old man letting off steam...
;)

Whilst I wouldn't be one for taking them seriously it feels like a death by a thousand cuts. If you keep telling players they're not great, and I'm not saying that we do have great players, then we will never have them as we will have a bunch of underconfident mediocre players.

We need positivity not negativity.

[ArdeeBhoy]

A fair point about having a positive atmosphere. But Trap's not going to be there for ever...
Plus I'm sure the average EPL player would be far more bothered about how they're seen at club level?

[geysir]

Maybe James need this game in the US like a hole in the head.
I don't mind Trap going on about pride, duty and commitment. On first appearance it looks he adds an implication that James might be looking for an escape, based on a "little bit of pain" and comparing the wimps of today with the invincible gladiators of the past, like himself and Marco, who were lauded by emperors.

[jbyrne]

Maybe James need this game in the US like a hole in the head.
I don't mind Trap going on about pride, duty and commitment. On first appearance it looks he adds an implication that James might be looking for an escape, based on a "little bit of pain" and comparing the wimps of today with the invincible gladiators of the past, like himself and Marco, who were lauded by emperors.

he wants his best players for the match. yes, his way of putting this accross it is a bit waffly but players and their feelings shouldnt be mollycoddled so much all the time

[paul_oshea]

You don't get the same rain now as you used to then.

[geysir]

The wimps of today wouldn't be able to handle real rain.